David Jaffe Explains Sony-Exclusivity

Dana Olson at Tawkn.com writes: "David Jaffe posted a video up explaining why his company, Eat Sleep Play, are developing exclusively for Sony."

[panasonic23]

dave is a ps3fanboy but who cares fanboys leave dave alone.

[CaseyRyback_CPO]

yet, you forget about greenberg.

you guys fail at even the most basic level of trolling.

[Kami]

i am just going to leave this here.

[user3915800]

So much diahrrea where is it coming from? Jeffes mouth. Stupid blog and dumb excuses dont make you better, but rather let the peoples know what a -=lw==-+dc= you really are.

[iHEARTboobs]

Twisted Metal???

[Coolrah]

I miss Twisted Metal as it was one of my favorite games for ps1-ps2...1,2 and 4 were my awesome but Black was the best imo. I hope its announced at E3...

[InfectedDK]

Calling All Cars! is actually quite fun.
Sad it came out that early and nobody plays it online. They should do a Calling All Cars 2! with more levels, a bit better online part, level creator and trophies. It would be awesome! - And people would be playing it online. It could turn out as a 9/10 game.
- Just my opinion.

[fishd]

It was confirmed that he is working on Twisted metal:)
http://www.ps3blog.net/2008...

They are also using warhawk's engine:)
http://www.psxextreme.com/f...

and it won't be shown at E3:(
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[Cajun Chicken]

I love Calling all Cars.

[Rainstorm81]

twisted metal was a fun game. Im need to see something on the new iteration beforeim convinced.

More devs need to speak thier opinion on PS3 vs X360 development like. R* and Id Software now David Jaffe

please END THE FANBOY WARS put fanboys in thier place

[morganfell]

I hate to read into this but something might pop up at E3. he said "We won't announce anything" which is different than showing something already announced.

[-EvoAnubis-]

Whoops! That wasn't supposed to go here; my bad.

[TheAntiFanboy]

There's a lot of truth in his words. He states everything in an "I like" manner, without insinuating which one is better.

This is the truth to the fanboy mythos. It is all about "I like", not "it is better". Because in the end, it's all just personal opinion rather than concrete quality.

[thegood33]

Next time, just stick to the message boards dude...

We don't need any more nerds staring into the camera...

[morganfell]

Unfortunately Antifanboy what you say is not true 100% of the time. It works until there isn't room on the disc for what "you like". It applies until a certain feature simply isn't available. Then the question is can you live without it.

[SL1M DADDY]

= Pure bliss.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

ditto:

This is the truth to the fanboy mythos. It is all about "I like", not "it is better". Because in the end, it's all just personal opinion rather than concrete quality.

[All-3]

Maybe you should ask him... id Software have stated that 2 DVD-9 discs will be fine for Rage.

You can keep going back to PREVIOUS comments which have since been explained though... and ignore those.

[TheAntiFanboy]

"Unfortunately Antifanboy what you say is not true 100% of the time. It works until there isn't room on the disc for what "you like". It applies until a certain feature simply isn't available. Then the question is can you live without it."

Unfortunately Morganfell what you say is not true 100% of the time. It works until you have to wait three minutes as you install new data every other chapter of the game, or that each loading time is a minute long. It works until a certain feature simply isn't available. Then the question is can you live without it.

I'm sure the amount of extra time spent waiting for PS3 games to load or install more or less equates to the amount of time switching discs on a 360. And in terms of software features, both consoles are pretty much eye-to-eye.

[creatchee]

Yeah, and it also works until you get frustrated with having to write absorbanant amounts of code to do something relatively simple.

See what I did there?

[DaTruth]

You should have went PS3 exclusive, then you would have none of his problems or yours. There would be no load times(Uncharted)and no installs(Killzone 2). MGS4 only has installs because Kojima didn't have enough space on the disk.

Also, I gave you a name that suits you more. If you were an anti-fanboy, you would not have gotten upset at his comment.

[Coolrah]

Yeah I thought so....Anyway good video and a good way to exsplain his liking of sony in a non fanboyish way....Go David!!

Edit: lol panasonic you phail hard....trying to edit to hide your shame lol go ahead wallow in it.

[NJShadow]

Yeah, I had to applaud Dave for that because that's quite difficult to do in this day and age when it comes to having a favorite console.

[farhsa2008]

at least someone with a bit of sense looking to the future and not the past, DVD9 anyone?

[Gamer_Politics]

DVD9...works just fine so what if certain releases will be multi disc that hasnt stop gamers from enjoyin' titles this gen

[ChickeyCantor]

One of the most pathetic reasons ever.
A developer might be limited by storage space, but his idea and concept do not automatically have to be limited by storage space.

A good developer makes good use of hardware, DVD9 is not an excuuse to say someone goes with or without "sense".

[-EvoAnubis-]

Multiple disks won't help an open world game that needs to constantly stream.

Edit: You know what, on the subject, why is DVD9 "just fine?" Because Microsoft said so?

Can someone please explain to me why, for the first time in console gaming HISTORY, the storage format for games stays the same, and that's supposed to be "just fine?" Hell, even Nintendo, as backwards as they are, figured out that using a larger storage format than they did the previous generation was a good plan. Now, all of a sudden, just because Mircosoft, the rookie in this industry, decides that the storage medium for its 7th generation console should be identical to its 6th gen console, and everyone's like, "Okay! Sure, games aren't going to get any bigger than this, so it'll be fine!"

How exactly does that make any sense?

[kewlkat007]

"Space should never Limit the Creative Senses"....

It's what you do with space that matters in the end. Having extra doesn't mean "AAA" titles and neither should it mean, your all the sudden more creative in a BIG way.

Now Dave, I do not care about who you make games for, I could care-less, let's talk about "Twisted Metal 5" please....

In this industry, it will always be Business first. Your fooling yourself, if you think other-wise. Dave would go multiplat in a blink, if his games were not really selling on a platform.

[ChickeyCantor]

@Evo
Perhaps, however, like I said, a good developer makes good use of the hardware that is available to him.
If a developer decides to make a game on the 360, it doesn't mean he goes without "sense" just because he went for DVD9(360) and not bluray(Ps3).

And with better compression techs, files can be stored in much smaller sizes.

Bluray is nice, its great for dveleopers, but still lots of developers can manage on DVD9.

Edit:
@Evo's Edit.
Because lots of developers still manage on using DVD9, the content is there and with online, additional stuff can be dowloaded.
It is okai as long content goes on it that provide a game. And so far 360 hasn't really failed? ( and please no fanboy nonsense from anyone, 360 has its great share of awesome games)

Edit:
I got a disagree before i made my first edit post, care to speak up?

[-EvoAnubis-]

I'm not talking about the developers. I'm talking about the console maker. Check the edit. And as for the rest of that, if compression is so great, why don't we just use CDs? Compression, contrary to popular belief, isn't a magic box into which you can fit anything.

[ChickeyCantor]

Don't tell me you honestly think everything on bluray goes without compression? Large( and raw) files are not efficient. They take to much space up. Streaming them makes sense, but a huge texture taking up sh/tloads of ram isn't healthy either.

" if compression is so great, why don't we just use CDs? "
Why not use floppy disks!
C'mon don't be that ignorant. Yes DVD9 becomes a limit to some developers, true, but it still serves as a solid solution.
It works so they use it. So MS did not do R&D on new disc formats for the 360, so what? it still works doesn't it?

Sony has always pushed new formats with their consoles, its what they do. Ms did what they did, and its still enough for lots of developers.
And I see no bad thing with linear stories having multi discs.

[morganfell]

Yes DVD 9 works just fine...until the iceberg shows up.

Anyone here that has every worked in any facet of the game industry (retail doesn't count) knows that issues arising are like an iceberg. When something does appear you can be sure that what isn't seen is a great deal more massive. When a comment noting difficulty is made you can bet the problem mentioned is actually 10 times bigger.

When Bizarre Creations mentioned DVD9 was limiting PGR4, a quick effort was made to clarify that. Translation? Microsoft hit the panic button and Bizarre Creations had to "clarify" their comment. If the issue of DVD surfaced you can bet the actual problem was a great deal more worrisome.

When Rockstar made the comment about DVD9 limiting GTA IV Microsoft jumped up and down on the panic button and Rockstar "clarified" the issue. As before you can bet the issue below the surface was expansive.

DVD9 does not provide freedom. Just ask John Carmack if 2 DVD9 disks are providing Id with all of the space they need.

[SaiyanFury]

Compression isn't the end-all answer to solving space issues, larger capacity is. Compressing things is all fine and dandy, but in the long run can degrade overall quality. Take DISH Network satellite service versus C-Band satellite. DISH Network's signal is horribly overcompressed and looks like crap compared to C-band's uncompressed signal. C-band is twice the quality displaying on a large HDTV compared to DISH's compressed signal.

The same conclusion can be drawn when addressing consoles. Having overcompressed files on limited capacity media can hinder the overall presentation of a game. Lord knows MGS4 looks amazing on BD, and while I have no doubt it's technically possible on the 360, how many discs would it take to achieve the same result? 6, possibly 7 dual layer DVD9s? With all of the pissing and moaning about disc swapping these days, I don't think that would be looked fondly upon. Compression is not an end to a means and is a good answer with some games, but some games are simply to large to cram into such a limited space. And if you overcompress said game, the overall presentation goes down the toilet.

[-EvoAnubis-]

Who's being ignorant? I'm just taking this absurd theory of DVD being "just fine" and taking it a step further. How is my "Let's use CDs and compression" anymore "ignorant" than the "let's use DVDs and compression?"

Two generations ago, CDs were the standard. What if they'd been the standard last gen too? Would anyone want to play the 4 disk version of Halo, GoW2, GTA: SA, Metal Gear Solid 3, KOTOR, or any other game? No? Then why is it acceptable now?

We had games filling DVDs last gen. Hell, I even recall a few two DVD disk games on the PlayStation 2. The writing was on the wall that something bigger was needed. MS ignored it and went with DVD again, not because it was still ":just fine," but because it was cheap and they wanted to be first. No other reason.

[Why o why]

who only talk about the length of games on blu ray are deflecting or are just plain stupid. ps1 games were just as long as some ps2 AND ps3 games. Its not ONLY about length. If I need to explain this then you are stupid. Black hole compression does not exist people. Yes MS's hands were tied ala sony with rumble but that doesn't change the fact that this Haych Deee gen needs more space JUST like the Haych Deee movies need more space and were NOT on dvd9......wow

Wtf happened to the HD sound on transformers hd dvd????? Even that wasn't sufficient. 'Better to have...' as they say

[heroicjanitor]

3rd party developers have a blu-ray full of space available on the ps3, but know they need to make sure that it fits on a dvd. It is the same as if the ps2 had a cd, and the xbox had a dvd, but developers knew they needed to fit it on a cd. Developers always want to use just one, because extra discs are expensive, it is handier and it is a simpler goal than making multiple discs.

Edit: Lazy one, that just isn't true, developers right now are going well over dvd size and compressing the hell out of it so that it fits, I'm not trying to insult you I'm just informing you.

[The Lazy One]

Because it's just too costly right now to develop the amount of content needed to fill a blu-ray disk with anything meaningful. Outside of pre-rendered media, the engines just aren't powerful enough yet to use content that would make blu-ray necessary.

Next gen, when hardware is upped again, and artists can start having more free reign on their content, then it might be a bigger deal.

Right now it's just too expensive to fill a 50gb disk with meaningful content.

[dcbronco]

There are a few games that need more space. You can still count them on your hands this generation. And this generation is almost over. It may not have worked out financially for them, but it's amazing they were able to sway so many with little advertising. Just a few shill reporters and a few never say die fanboys.

More proof studios aren't sold on Blu-ray.

http://www.videobusiness.co...

[iHEARTboobs]

This generation is almost over? lol, maybe for the 360.

[heroicjanitor]

I think microsoft did well to convince you that compressing stuff to within an inch of it's life to cram it onto a dvd is the way to go. Also the ps2 didn't need dvds, should've stuck with cds. In fact, the playstation didn't need cds, should've used cartridges.

[The Lazy One]

The average size of a 360 game is around 70% of a DVD9. Why would they compress it to "within an inch of its life" to reach 70%?

[heroicjanitor]

The other 30% is security required to be there by microsoft in order to try and curb piracy. So only 70% is available to developers, which they duly fill.

[TheHater]

70% is only available to developers. The other 30% is used by MS for security purpose to fight of piracy of the games on the disk. But we know how that has turn out, so they should just make it 1005 available to the developer because the security thing just isn't working.

[TheAntiFanboy]

The Japanese have no concept of compression. That is why games like Star Ocean and Final Fantasy are so gargantuan. It's not really their scale, or the amount of assets they have, it's just that they don't take the time to compress their crap! There are ways of compressing things while only sacrificing 0.01% of quality.

Admittedly though, it does take a load off their back when they DON'T have to research ways to compress their things, but I mean, that's what middleware is for!

That being said, this generation will probably be the last to use regular DVD's.

But next generation, we'll all be playing our games off of solid-state media. Faster than Blu-Ray, bigger than DVD9. It's so PERFECT! GAHAHAHA Yeah I have no clue what I'm talking about.

[heroicjanitor]

The Japanese games are so big because they tend to prefer pre-rendered cut-scenes to in-game cut-scenes, and it is harder to compress that way since you have to store all of these pre-rendered movies as well as the game's animations on the disc. Western developers generally don't use pre-rendered cut-scenes and can therefore just use the animations which were already on the disc.

[Max Power]

it would techinically be "Twisted Metal 6", remember 1-4 were on the PSOne, and Black was one the PS2.

[All-3]

Everyone knows that top PC hardware is more powerful than any current home console... and yet PC games still come out on MULTIPLE discs don't they?

I don't read many complaints about that... why isn't that a BIG DEAL to people?

[phosphor112]

PC's use DVD9's and even CDs! Want to know why?
Because you install every single part of the bloody game. My HL2 consists of 6 CD's. Not only do they install it all, but before installation, all the data is packaged up nice and tightly, so once you double click and initiate the install, it all starts to unpackage where it's supposed to be.

Consoles DONT do that. The ONLY exception to this was that about "half" (estimation) of the data on MGS4 is packaged. That's why installs are so large and frequent on the game. They don't want to install the whole game, because even with the BD disc still being read, installs were still ranging from 4-6 gigs (PER CHAPTER!!). To get all the data on the BD they had to do that, not to mention it helped keep that top notch graphical quality.

[The Lazy One]

Using this:
http://www.crunchgear.com/2...

The average size of an Xbox 360 game (including total size of multi disk games not per disk sizes)is 5.8gb

The largest game is 6.8gb. That means the average game is 85% of the size of the largest per disk game. So the same point stands using 85% of the available space to developers.

KAY

[prowiew]

So far the only games that I know or played that are multidisk, are rpgs from japan. But I dont mind changing a disk for an rpg. Since every disk takes you around 10+ hours to finish. When I start to see games like halo, gears, resident evil being multi disk, then I would start to become worried.

[Serg]

The best example of Disc space limiting creative freedom and all that is Devil May Cry 4. Do you honestly believe you had to play through the game twice to see the ending, was because the developers thought it would be a good idea for the player to visit the exact same locations, killing the exact same bosses twice, just with different characters? Seriously now, if that is not an indicator of disc space limitations then what is.

1, just 1 Killzone 2 level is around 2GB big. Single Player would consist of 2 missions and Online of 2 maps, and all that stuff had to be compressed so that the character models and the menus would fit on there as well.

MS said DVD9 will be enough this gen., a month later we read PGR4 had to be sliced so it would fit on a DVD, Lost Odyssey, 4 DVDs. And these are Games published by MS.

It has nothing to do with Sony convincing anyone, it's pure common sense and logical, in fact, it's as logical as you will get wet if you go swimming.

Edit: Oh and by the way, demo versions are scratching the 2GB mark more and more, 2 GB for 20 minutes of bare minimum gameplay, but I guess DVD9 is "just fine"...

[dcbronco]

name more than ten games that require more than a DVD. You can't name ten released in the US. You might have some JRPGs. Oh I'm sorry, you don't actually have many of those. The area for security is 1.2gbs for 360. That leaves over 7 gbs, more than 70%. Sony doesn't put the majority of it's games on PSN for download because it would prove the games are all 5-6gbs. Sony has a bunch of ten hour or less games, most much less. Blu-ray is a joke and most studios are beginning to push DD and VOD now. Blu-ray will be more niche than it already is in 5 years.

@boob. You really think this generation will be ten years long. Don't believe that nonsense. The PS3 and 360 might be around that long, but there will be new consoles on the market long before we see either reach that. If the new box doesn't come out November of 2010, it will come out November 2011. MS might wait 5 years, but there is no way they wait more than six. If they learned anything, they learned that the one year head start works wonders for your market share. With the technology advances over the last couple of years, MS would want to push Sony as fast as they can. In a week or so when both companies announce their earnings(Sony for the year and MS for their third qtr.) Sony's losses and MS making another 11-12 billion for the year so far, MS will push their advantage.

Hate to kick a guy when he's down, but business is business. This E3 would be the perfect time to announce the 720 and force Sony to spend money they don't have.

[morganfell]

Bluray sales doubled last year. No one can argue with that. MS was part and party with Toshiba trying to convince the public that not only was HD DVD needed but that it was better than Bluray. Of course as soon as HD DVD was declared dead, MS couldn't wait to distance themselves.

"Arh Hrumph! Digital downloads are the future..."

What the anti Bluray crowd does not understand is of course most games do not currently require there space because they are made for DVD9. Duh! Would be the appropriate term here. Actually they understand it but it is one of the only ridiculous arguments they have left.

I am sure when Henry Ford was designing his automobile at least one mentally challenged person stated "There is no need for headlights on the cars because right now no one drives at night"

[iHEARTboobs]

I never said this gen would last 10 years. No one thinks this gen will actually last that long. But like last gen, Sony's console will stay on the market longer and MS will be out sooner with a new console. But way to be a fanboy and call everyone else that doesn't agree with you a fanboy.

Oh and the length of a game also determines how big it is? Really?! You actually believe that? lol

[The Lazy One]

Find one source where anybody from M$ says that HD-DVD (meaning HD-DVD as opposed to blu-ray, not meaning a high definition disk media) is necessary.

Obviously they thought everybody "needed" it so bad they decided not to put it in their consoles.

[Gun_Senshi]

X360 DVD9 can only hold 6.4GB due to protection data for nothing.

Games on PS2 are bigger then that like GoW and StarOcean 3 is 2 full DVD9s (8.7 GB, not 6.4GB)

[Argento-Nox]

@ 2.2 sidar

I'd generally agree with you on DVD-9's not being an issue affecting games as long as there's multiple disc to compensate. The problem, however, arises when you take into consideration the game Rage coming out by Id.

It's known facts straight from John Carmack and Id that confirms the Rage game has been fundamentally changed (multiple dunes switched to 2 large dunes, 3 races changed to 2 playable races in the game) in order for the game to fit on 2 DVD-9's for the 360 version, hence affecting the PS3 and PC versions.

As long as there aren't too many multi-platform games being affected by the DVD-9 issue, I don't have a problem.

[ChickeyCantor]

" Compression isn't the end-all answer to solving space issues"
I never said this, i just stated that developers can still manage.

Apparently in MS R&D back then they expected DVD9 to be enough.
it's "Ok" because lots of game still do fine with it.

Filling up a disc up to trillions of gigs on data doesn't mean sh/t.
Developers always need to work efficient, just because bluray is there( which is great, im not saying its a bad thing) doesn't mean every game need to be 50gb(or more).

Lots of games look alike anyway(Ps3 vs xbox). Again if Sony didn't push new formats with their console they would be using DVD9 too.

@argent,
I get that, but the guy goes " WHY IS IT ALL " OKAI " "as if its something that matters so much, to us that is.
You can't Denie that 360 is still doing very well. And I already said lots of developers have issues with space, but by no means does this make a developer less sensical. MS is also counting on DLC.

[Note i do have a PS3 not 360...before anyone goes apesh/t towards me]

edit:
" how many discs would it take to achieve the same result? 6, possibly 7 dual layer DVD9s?"
Then you have to ask yourself what took all that space? Cause if you have some idea of how computers work you know you can't load heavy data without inefficient processing and RAM storage.
If he claims its not possible on the 360, fine but please link where its stated what actually takes up all that space. If FF13 can come to the 360, then its funny MGS4 can not.

[multipayer]

PS3 really isn't capable of streaming the amount of textures that would be in a 50gb open world game, needs more ram... The BD-Rom is also a very slow reader, we MUST install to get that amount of information anyway. So, it really is just as bad as multidisc for 360, I think you can even install lost oddysey and play with 1 disc.

As for the future, bluray looks like the best option, but news flash, the future is going to make your **** look old.

[Argento-Nox]

@Sidar

No prob Sidar (^_^), I see where your coming from about multi-platform games. I haven't had my eyes clouded over by fanboy miasma to see that most multi-platform games, if not all of them, generally sell the same. Generally, I just pick up the multi-platform games I want (RE5, Deadspace etc.), shrug my shoulders and give a big "Meh" at sales charts that tell me they sell roughly the same.

I don't really care for DLC, but to each their own. As long as the DLC is something new like the GTA4 episodes and not like Tomb Raider DLC, which was actually stages removed from the game to sell as DLC, it won't bother me, (-_-);; ---> (>_<) - #@$ fcuking DLC that was supposed to be in the game to begin with!

I'm not concerned about most multi-platform games b/c I think they'll be the same across all platforms (that is the point after all). About the only multi-platform game I'll look at closely is FFXIII and Rage. I'm interested to see how the multi-disc/multi-platform games will affect other publishers with regards to the games they'll make down the line.

I really hope future multi-disc titles don't bring about fundamental changes to their games like Rage, otherwise my response will be ---> (>_<)- fuk#$@!!! There'd be no issues for either side, if MS would allow more disc, while lowering developer fees for additional disc when greater than 2 disc (-_-);;, afterall they have the NXE ability to load games to the harddrive, why not use it?

@slugboss

BD may be slower, but overall the data transfer is pretty much the same as the 360. The blu-ray capacity is IMO, the PS3's major asset that I think we'll all see when games like FFXIII and Rage reach the spotlight. I agree though, something like blu-ray is definitely needed for HD games. No fcuking way am I going to load multiple DVD's to a harddrive to play, that would be worse IMO, than installs (-_-);;. Games with no load times like Uncharted and Dead space, prove that good programming can eliminate load times while minimizing install sizes (still can't believe Dead Space only had 600KB install).

[TheColbertinator]

I agree with Jaffe on this one.1st and 2nd party developers tend to have more freedom on what their next game shall become.Even the mega franchises Final Fantasy,Gran Turismo and Mario started out small but were built from the ground up to form the institutions they have today.

One publisher who has really impressed me with taking risks and going for creative developers is EA.They have made several new IPs that slowly but surely sold a million and now have strong followings

http://www.psxextreme.com/p...

http://www.edge-online.com/...

http://www.pgnx.net/news.ph...

[Trey4Lyfe]

that in an era where everyone is trying to make cheap easy games to cash in, the much loathed EA has been trying different things.

I said it before and i'll say it again, I enjoyed Deadspace more than RE5, check the metacritic, it scored better reviews.

[TheHater]

I also agree. For me personally Dead Space is a lot better than RE5 any day of the week.

[Traveler]

I agree, Dead Space is a much better game than Resident Evil 5. I enjoyed it a lot more.

I appreciate EA's change of direction.

[lukeb4dunk]

I used to be one of those people that hated EA with a passion, but it was games like Mirrors Edge and Dead Space that have changed my judgment of them.

I also agree about Dead Space. That was on helluva game that I quite enjoyed and hope they make a second one. Bubbles for you.

[Socomer 1979]

Its a dam shame that people dont know what david feels compelled to say to forum members. We already knew this because PS3 gamers are the hardcore bunch.

Even musicians who make platinum or even double platinum albums know the diffence between commercially hot and real music. All you gotta do is sell a million and its smooth sailing... sell 5 million and your almost a billionaire.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

...Station;)

[MIKEY1223]

I love porn

[rambi80]

and strippers

[Bits-N-Kibbles]

omg that was so random and hilarious...

I Don't Know Why.

[rambi80]

bubbles to mikey for showing that the forum can be fun and does not determine the fate of the free world

[mac4u10]

The Virgin broke hes silence lol

[Why o why]

i wouldnt wanna see his 'good' hand right about now......funky, but i concur....I love porn

[ChickeyCantor]

Bah, why is he defending himself? screw what they say.

[v1c1ous]

he's mad that he put all his eggs in the sony basket when he left sony and maintained his exclusivity with him cause he thought sony was going to steamroll this gen with ps3.

"lemme leave sony, make my own company, make a crapton more money by still developing for the #1 selling console"

Bzzzt

dont believe me? him and me have actually gone back n forth a while back.

[lloyd_wonder]

hahaha. You're that dude who got owned by Jaffe and banned from Gaf? hahaha

[HDgamer]

No he's the guy who stalks Jaffe from forum to forum. Think of him as Jack Thompson Jr.

[v1c1ous]

i didnt get banned from gaf you got me confused for someone else. and i didnt join in that lil david bashing that went on when he was whining sbout the email thing from cnn. other people pwned him and he was so upset he started asking for other places to post because he knows he got made a fool of.

[ironmonkey]

lol what makes you think you know more than him?

[Bren86]

jaffe nearly cried on gametrailers because pachter said sony was getting their ass kicked lol jaffe is just a sony pony.

[TheHater]

I guess that why he is developed games that millions of people loved and is developing games that many people is going to love. What do you do? Troll on a site everyday?

[HDgamer]

He doesn't troll all day, he works at mcdonalds toilet duty. only 13 more years for a promotion to fry cook.

[Bren86]

Actually I sold a lighter design and no longer have to work another day in my life.

[WLPowell]

Lets see we have Jaffe who: has made great game after great game.
vs. pachter who: has yet to actually be right on his speculation unless it a given. "The wii's gonna sell a lot this season!"

You're one of the main reason I question if having free speech in this country is worth it.

[News4fanboys]

He's right.
you dudes complain wen your not a developer or even contributing toawrds it.
untill you can relize the truth that ps3 is simply the better console with not only more space but more room and power for creativity.

and obviously blind school girl fanboys would only disagree with him saying that "business comes first no matter wut he says".. you not him nor do you know wut its like to be in his shoes.

you only disagree becouse you idiot fanboys dont know wut its like to be a REAL gamer and play and make games becouse its your passion,not becouse your in it for the big bucks.But i guess that was back then as this generation has gone backwards as far as gamers are concerned..

David jaffe is a gamer and has ben playing games for years and years as he stated in his video and has ben developing games for a while now.
he tells it like he see's it and fanboys cant handle for the fact that he perferes the ps3 over the 360,so everyone that disagrees with him can SIT THE FVCK DOWN,PLAY SOME GAMES AND SHUT THE FVCK UP!!

[TheHater]

Why the hate? Is it because he doesn't work on games for you favorite console? Seriously lay off the guy. He worked on games that millions of people loved and here you have idiots disrespecting the man because he doesn't work for MS. And for all you people say compression dis and that. I have a question for you people. What game have you worked on or is currently working on? EXACTLY.

[WLPowell]

Considering sony's exclusives have been delivering bar-raising quality left and right, and MS has been stuck at multiplats that have done nothing special (with little to nothing to talk about this year until mid way through 2009... maybe) I think the proof is in the product, that's it's better to just have the extra room whether your using it or not. (It might also have to do with Sony's first party development teams just being better) but I guess it's easy to say "nuh-uh!" when you don't have a PS3, right?

[WhittO]

i agree - also everyone is holding out that MS will announce games at E3.

Well, i REALLY dont think they would wait untill E3 to announce a game if it was coming out in 09 !! so basically what they have announced now is what you are going to get. Since when did companies announce games and release them like 3 months later ?!

[shawnsl65]

i'm going to take a guess what MS is going to announce.

1 - Alan Awake (with no release date/estimation)

2 - Another 360 price cut.

3 - DLC

[Cajun Chicken]

'Don't bite the hand that fed you' can easily be applied to this.

[grantps3]

you gotta love david jaffe.

i cant wait to see what he is making.

[Bits-N-Kibbles]

is a badass.

If you have GOW (best PS2 game of all time - IGN) under your belt then there is not much room to bash.

It's a shame he doesn't have a bigger role in the third or other titles.

[xabmol]

I'm a big fan of his since way back, but I'm just not a big fan of Twisted Metal. So the game he is working on right now is kinda a waste for me, and that sucks. =[

Jaffe, I'm still waiting for Mickey Mania 2. :D

[ShiNe-Box-]

This blog is so full of win. It's exactly what xbox fanboys DON'T want to hear.

I fully agree with David though. Being a sellout is not a good way to live your life. Glad he picked having more creative freedom over having more money.

[ApocalypseShadow]

all of a sudden,we have gamers that settle for less because "microsoft" said it was fine.nintendo we can understand because they love to control what medium you play on.hense the dump on sony that led to ps1.

bluray has so many advantages over dvd that we have ignorant people here claiming it's not necessary for bigger games.sure you can make a good game on dvd.but what about a bigger game that loads on the fly?it all comes down to how you want to use all that space.more story,more sound,more game,more extras.the developer decides.but on dvd,you decide what limits you want right off the bat.

some games on ps3 were short because the dev like ninja theory decided to put all those languages on one disc.and have cinemas,and have great looking graphics in high def.remember ps1 and those grainy videos between gameplay?won't see that ever again on ps3.even ps2 had better video because of dvd.ps3 allows all video in high def,all game in high def,all sound in high def,all languages in high def.

do you think gta3 on ps2 could have been done on cd and "look" and "play" like it did on dvd?you're smoking crack if you say the same game can be done on cd.all bigger games on ps2 went to dvd when most games when ps2 started were on cd.same will happen on ps3.early game were dvd-9 level,but games now are starting to use bluray.

how much room is the bluray format?enough to the point that rockstar could have put gta1,gta2,gta london gta3,vice city an san andreas and probably gta4 all on one f#cking bluray disc.but we got 360 fans saying you can make the same games on ps3 and 360.bullsh!t!gta4 would have been bigger and better on ps3.

as for jaffe and v1c1ous above,the man left santa monica,made a sh!tty game called calling all cars,and expected to rake in the money?hahaha!i got that for free on QORE and deleted that crap after one play through.even my girlfriend's son hated that game and wanted to play something else after 15 minutes.

but jaffe needs to put up or shut up.tired of his talk.i like his style even if he's an obnoxious moron,but he needs to bring the big guns to impress me ever again.

apocalypse..............

[The Lazy One]

name one that isn't size.

[Alex_Mexico]

Challenge accepted:
Scratch proof discs! And i mean real scratches, and the disc will still be read.

Besides, size already should be more than enough of an advantage.

[-EvoAnubis-]

That actually IS a possibility. Never thought about it like that before, but you're just about correct there.

[The Lazy One]

Scratch proof discs aren't exclusive to blu-ray. It's just more necessary with blu-ray because it's more affected by scratches.

You can use the coating they use on blu-ray disks on most optical media. It's called Durabis. Check it.

http://www.pmelectronix.com...

[vox]

i was a huge TM fan, even had Small brawl
I actually skipped out on Black but picked up Head On for the PSP

1 is actually a very broken game in every aspect
2 is the clear best and only decent game of the bunch, 3, 4 and SB were garbage that brought nothing new to the series
by the time Black came out I had already had enough, there wasn't much reason I'd want to play this game anymore, the best part were the easter eggs

I'm sick of the game now though and the genre should just die.. I played most TM clones and I just feel like the game has exhausted itself.. rogue trip was actually a pretty good addition to the genre though

[Coolrah]

Black was the best one and basicly took 2 and improved upon it tenfold. Same characters but in a much more darker persona and a pretty good stories to all of the individual characters. I personally think that Twisted Metal has room for a new beginning.

[dylantalon]

you fanboys are such sheep. you dont have to worry too much about game content and ideas when making a game on the ps3 because of the superior hardware and blu ray disc capacity while the online is free and lag free. some games are 6 hours on blu ray and some are longer, it does mean that blu ray isnt needed. last time i checked, a lot of the ps3's exclusives look a whole generation better than xbox 360s and wii exclusives.

listen, im a realist and not a fanboy, a lot of multiplatform games in the pass looked a bit better on xbox 360, xbox 360 has an edge over psn with the party chat even though the party is often closed down randomly. when you talk about quantity and quality of exclusives, the ps3 is the best . what game on the xbox 360 looks better than UNCHARTED? none. which car game on xbox 360 looks better than motorstorm and gt 5 prologue that are on the ps3 ? none. what on xbox 360 looks better than mgs 4, lbp, heavenly sword, lair, ratchet, resistance 2, folklore, white knight chronicles, and killzone 2? no game. its because of the ps3s hardware why these games look like they do and run very smooth with slowdowns, glitches or lag.

if people think a developer sucks because he needs blu ray and think that if the developer were good, he should be able to make a game just as good using an inferior format like dvd 9. i guess by that same logic, he should be able to use cartridges like are on the super nintendo and the game will be awesome because he's that good.

if youre an artist you would want to draw a picture on a canvas or paper that is big enough to fit youre drawings . you wouldn't want to draw on a small notepad with lines on it to draw something as big as a city and erase some buildings due to them being too big and sketch in smaller ones due to space.

ps3 is better than xbox 360 and that's a fact. more exclusive games, reliable console, free internet. the reliable console part seals it.

ps. the talon stands for talented

[themyk]

kevin smith is the man. FLY FATASS FLY!!!

[ukilnme]

There is no rule out there calling for devs to support multiple platforms. I've said before that I find it funny when people cry about former exclusives going multiplatform. I find it just as funny when people complain about a developer staying exclusive to a platform.

The bottom line is some exclusives are great and some mutilplatforms are great. In the end it's only games people. Enjoy them.

[itchy18]

does anyone know here the psn id of david jaffe?

[360isthebestps3sucks]

flopzone 2 wow......sytem seller WO WAIT....

[Coolrah]

how you call it a flop yet you mention it in almost 90% of your post....Its ok we all know you wanna play too.....

[Traveler]

360isthebest is a flop poster. None of his comments make any sense.

Go play your sales, fanboy.

[-x.Red.x-]

killzone2 fastest 1st party game to sell 500k
1.3mil+ WW
you're right, "flopzone"

[Hallucinate]

sssssshhh you might hurt the ops feelings

[The_Beast]

Evrey single thing that involves sony or anything to do with ps3... i wouldnt be surprised to see you at this.

Title: Sony pictures announces spider man 4!!!!
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flopzone 2 wow......sytem seller WO WAIT....

[ultimolu]

When someone hates on Gabe Newell and Valve, 360 fanboys rush to the defense. But when it comes to Jaffe, it's okay to make fun of the guy!

The hypocrisy....oh the hypocrisy.

You guys can hate on Jaffe as much as you want. He chose his platform and he's sticking with it.

[mirroredderorrim]

I will continue to poke fun into the abyss known as Gabe Newell'Stomach, until he commands Valve to show PS3 love.

[redsquad]

And at least Jaffe tried to be balanced and reasonable about it, unlike Newall.
Didn't seem to do much good judging by the reactions here though.

[lizard81288]

well, at least in the video he didn't bash any cons(i skipped through some of it though). sadly i don't own a ps2, yes, shocking i know, anyways i loved the TM series, even the crappy 3 and 4. small brawl was better, but not as good as the 1st 2, and it ate my memory card too, does it really need to create a save file for all character endings, thats like 20+ save blocks >_>
TM2,TM1,TMSB,TM4,TM3. thats how'd i'd rank the ps1 TM series.
too bad he isn't greedy, not that i would like him to make half-assed games or anything, but it would be nice to expand a little. maybe make a new series for the wii, 360, or even DS.

[pippoppow]

This is how people working on something they truly love should go about producing a product. It pays off in the long run.

[specdoTsign]

This is why I hope Nomura-san gets it done with Final Fantasy Versus XIII, assuming the game is still exclusive.
I have no problem with multi-plat games, but in all honesty, I like exclusives more:
Mass Effect
Dead Rising
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Killzone 2
Valkyria Chronicles
Just to name a few shining examples

[Disccordia]

It was confirmed on Advent Children Complete that it is an exclusive and will have a worldwide release.

[lawrence360x]

With everything he said but everyone must agree that he is one of the best video game designers to ever make a game .

[butbutbuttehcell]

Really? Other than God of War what other amazing games has he made? Twisted metal isn't amazing according to most (obviously some people love it but I mean the general consensus)

[MidNite]

Has he ever made a game for any other console that's not affiliated with Sony?

[jaseo]

size does matter, as does what you do with it.

[3sq]

"size does matter, as does what you do with it."

Oh yeah?

how about you show me how to put a blue-ray(1080p) movie into a single CD and of course without quality lost.

[DelbertGrady]

More viral marketing. I wonder what Sony paid him to come up with all of that?

At 2:50 he started to sound more and more like Hiphopgamer. "Teh 1080p resolution in teh PSN store. 360 is teh pixelated. Not that I'm a tech savvy guy..."

He had some very good points on the last Bonus Round and then he posts something like this. It sounded like he was reading from a manuscript.

[CBaoth]

I see you're deflecting the question because you don't like the answer. As a multi-console owner, it is indeed a fact. I own 4 HDs (2 1080p and 2 720/1080i) and the interface is pixelated on both high end sets. And so is viewing pictures and wallpapers. Can't speak for anyone else but I have to use premium themes because the standard ones are grotesque looking.

Does it REALLY matter? No. The games are what matter the most obviously. Jaffe's always stated he plays his 360 quite a bit so evidently it really doesn't affect him either. So, for all the 360 fans' complaints about his childish remark, is it any worse than Gabe's infamous quotes? Or is it simply because you just don't like the answer?

[GameGambits]

MGS4 is the perfect example still to this date in this console generation of pushing all aspects of a game to its limit.

That single game, which so many of you HAVE NOT gotten to play and would gladly rip on it since you haven't is what will keep other developers pushing themselves to make better games for us.

That game being able to fit that much on 1 disc of anything to me is phenomenal because is brings out the very BEST videogames have to offer. I own all the consoles, play them all, and at the end of the day someone who wouldn't realize the potential of Blu-Ray for your game is dumb. The PS3 currently for console gaming is where you want to go if you want to make something that will keep driving this industry forward and make a classic.

I think I get more upset by 360 fanboys than Sony fanboys, because the 360 ones either had PS1 or PS2, or both in their life time. If your very first console was Xbox or Xbox 360 then your knowledge of amazing games, developers, publishers, hardware, fun is LIMITED by a LONG SHOT. You want to bag on a system and a company that has been around providing top notch titles and letting developers make games like MGS4? You are insane, delusional, and above all mentally handicapped.

Sony fanboys need to stop being dumb also, because Xbox is here to stay and you need to have one as well to enjoy what it has to offer.

There's so many other problems with games and the people making them these days that are twisting arms behind backs that should be the talk of the internet, yet immature kids and immature adults want to argue about which system is better.

If you gave SO much of a crap about gaming, gaming quality, and your fun in leisure time---you'd have all 3 systems right now. People who don't need to step it up or shut it up.

[Neo604]

money can not buy like a multiplat whore sqare enix.

[psycho360]

"David Jaffe Explains Sony-Exclusivity"

I have a sony rod in my back

[crillyconlig]

you can even see in the xbox360 exclusives where they have been compromised, for example the low number of eminies on screen in gears, the poor graphics in fable2 to allow the open world, the quality of alan wake is yet to be shown on xbox and that i am curious of.

in fairness, only narrow minded people dismiss sony exclusives not being better than xbox's due to hardware and disc limitations.

[TwistedMetal]

this is why you only see rpgs with multiple discs on the x360 lol. I cant believe how dumb some of you x360 owners are wilingly belive that useing the same format as last gen will be enough for this gen lol. are you freaking insane or what? look at ps3 exclusives compared to x360 exclusives lol. halo 3 is the worst in the series and is not even in 720p it looks like a original xbox game. gears the best looking game one the x360 fails compared to every ps3 exclusive game. you guys shouldnt even have a hd-tv if you want to use dvd format for your games. talk about a waste of money not even getting the full uses out of your hd-tvs. the x360 games quality is just very very low. you guys wouldnt belive how much stuff is getting cut out of these games for dvd-9. also useing all of blueray space does not take any longer development time lol. insomniac made ratchet and clank tod, resistance 1&2, quest for booty, and the new ratchet and clank game in less the 4 years they made all that on blueray. uncharted 1 & 2 both have been made in less then 4 years. the reason killzon 2 took so long is becuase they made a complete new game engine which engines take a long time to make from scratch and they going to rent the engine out to people.

[Foxgod]

Sony is shelling out Billions of Yens to buy exclusivity like this, cheap tactics.

[TrueGamer71]

Your joking right?

fair enough but if you want to say that, then microsoft use cheaper tactics

[Xbots play games]

So you the reasons he gave was that his Xbox is blurry on his T.V.?? But then admits that he never adjusted it??

So this guy is a game developer but doesnt even know how to set up a game console on personal T.V.? Riiiiight..

Look..you get paid by Sony to make games..we get it..you like the system..you have to pretend that every old fanboy argument has validity..but again..we get it

Aaron G > David J by a mile

[heyheyhey]

wtf? you can't be serious man

Jaffe who has made two of the biggest franchises in gaming (God Of War and Twisted Metal) and you saying some retarded loud-mouthed marketing pr!ck is better than him?

you really are lost buddy.. jesus

[Xbots play games]

Wait..so because he developed GOW3...he's not a developer who made fanboy statements? If I'm 'Lost' you are deaf and blind..which most people are when they try to make a point on this site.

If a member of Bungie did a video blog which outline how they prefer the Xbox 360 over the PS3 because the sound of all the games sound flat and have a bunch of static when I hook it up to my 65' HDTV with Dolby Surround sound..but the Xbox 360 sounds crystal clear..I'd call him a true fanboy too...and just like he would deserve.

LOL @ the Aaron hate becuase he supports PS3..and it is a FACT that he isn't a loud mouth.. but his interview the other day is 100x > than Jaffe's personal blog.

[solidworm]

making excuses for sticking with old tech over new and improved tech. Ridiculous,sad and pathetic. Just say "yes microsoft made a mistake going with dvd9 because they were in such a rush to get to the market before the competition".
Thats why we have RROD,DISK SCRATCHING,A CONSOLE THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN HOOVER,and multiple disk swapping in 2009.For gods sake just admit this and then we can all move on.

[cyrus228]

i agree 100% with this guy, it actually makes sense.

i'm writing my comic and if i was getting more money to release it the way the company wants so it makes more money i would feel less accomplished inlife, opposed to 100% creative freedom i could say that, that product is fine and its my envisionment.

jaffe makes sense, glad i watched this.

people think everyone are fanboys these days, not true. just because one person likes one over the other doesnt make them a fanboy.

people like me who own all consoles arent fanboys, people who refuse to even touch the competitors console and where branded shirts and advertise for free, they are fanboys.

that and this website likes to argue i guess lol. i wonder how many ps3 vs 360 fanboys there will be because of this vid. saying "Oh he's stupid the live store looks great on my tv" etc please guys no dumb comments.

i think more devs should say why they like working for the company, i would love to hear bungies opinion

[PotNoodle]

Right from when he started talking about consoles sums up how i feel too, apart from the fact i don't own a wii anymore.

All the points he made (mostly) apply to me too, it isn't some fanboy rubbish - it is just a preference. I don't want other systems to fail, because i paid money for them too, i want them to keep getting supported so i get my moneys worth out of them.

[Shane Kim]

You just gotta love David Jaffe.

[BrianC6234]

Why does David Jaffe have to explain this? Anyone questioning him should get a life. Or a PS3. If you want his games bad enough that's what you'll have to do. He's done great with Sony so why stop? Instead they should ask Cliffy B why he doesn't make PS3 games. He has no ties to Microsoft so make multiplatform games.

[Thoreau]

are in full force. i love to see 360 only owners post their bitterness. instead of posting negative ps3 posts, they should figure out a way to own a ps3 so they can have the ps3 and 360. just some advice for you 360 diehards, owning both systems is awesome.

[Thoreau]

david j(game designer)> alan G(marketing mouth piece)

[TooL 316]

wooot,i love jaffe been saying it for years.

[jinjojuice]

xbla looks all pixely.erm try setting your xbox to output 1080p that might help.lol

[mixshows]

"looks better on my 1080p tv"
"he likes shopping more on the psn store"
"360 dash looks more pixelated"

Perfectly legitimate reasons to dev exclusively for Sony *rollseyes*

[na2ru1]

It just never cease to amaze me at how desperately the same old argument is being used over and over again by xbox fanboys. They pretend they never read the comments in here.

[MORGANFELL] I will quote you here.

"Yes DVD 9 works just fine...until the iceberg shows up.

Anyone here that has every worked in any facet of the game industry (retail doesn't count) knows that issues arising are like an iceberg. When something does appear you can be sure that what isn't seen is a great deal more massive. When a comment noting difficulty is made you can bet the problem mentioned is actually 10 times bigger.

When Bizarre Creations mentioned DVD9 was limiting PGR4, a quick effort was made to clarify that. Translation? Microsoft hit the panic button and Bizarre Creations had to "clarify" their comment. If the issue of DVD surfaced you can bet the actual problem was a great deal more worrisome.

When Rockstar made the comment about DVD9 limiting GTA IV Microsoft jumped up and down on the panic button and Rockstar "clarified" the issue. As before you can bet the issue below the surface was expansive.

DVD9 does not provide freedom. Just ask John Carmack if 2 DVD9 disks are providing Id with all of the space they need. "

........End of the day, PS3 owners are still getting the same games as 360 owners as well as quality 1st party titles. That's a win win.

[ForROME]

He hit the head on the nail

SONY and PSN just feel much more elegant and smooth than MS's

MS's is much more community driven though, SONY needs to get head sets to people to let them know "Hey Communicate" out of box

[butbutbuttehcell]

My name's David Jaffe. I've made one good game and because people liked it, I've decided to become the most outspoken person on the internet. I haven't proved myself since, but I still think people want to hear my every thought and listen to every rant. Also, my face is horrific.

[menoyou]

this dude is the man

[Eidolon]

There's just something about this guy that I like, I enjoy watching his videos, they keep me entertained. Glad to have his company exclusive to Sony.