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Developer: Xbox 360 games keeping up with PS3, but not for long

GAMER.BLORGE.com has learned exclusively what some of the key points of the Xbox vs PS3 war are, and it's not all about the Halo.

In a recent conversation with an undisclosed developer source, GAMER.BLORGE.com has been made privy to the biggest problems facing developers as they work with the Xbox 360 and the PS3: It's all about the RAM and the processor.

According to their source, it's easier on almost every level to work with the Xbox 360 in the development stage. Due to the older systems large amount of RAM, developers can work with a little more head room and not worry about running out of operating memory.

Where the real problem stem is in the two system's processors. While Xbox games can be tweaked to move up to the PS3, the reverse is not always the case. Due to the PS3's advanced processor, games developed for the Sony backed platform sometimes can't be downgraded to the the 360's chip.

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Spike47 - 828 days ago

1 - lets see....

*checks calendar* this whole dilemma of the 360 development being better and stuff is gonna end approximately in........... yup about 2008.

It should, because if it does'nt stop there, it's the developers that are geting pimped by microsoft.

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marinelife9 - 828 days ago

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I love profound insider information from Mr. Anonymous Source. Mr. Sources's tasty tidbits are always the most reliable. Much more reliable than some mere fanboy on a forum.

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illizit - 828 days ago

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It's so funny how everyone has this impression that the ps3 has less memory than the 360. IT HAS THE SAME AMOUNT. The difference is the 360 has a the whole 512 for the gpu/cpu and the ps3 has it split. However, the ps3 can still access the memory from either side! It's obvious the ps3 is more powerful, it's just going to take these devs to show us the proof! All in due time...

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bluebrad1974 - 827 days 23 hours ago

1.4 - This anonymous **** is hilarious

Ps3 hasn't even matched the quality of 360 titles on a consistent basis, and some no name web blog with a mysterious unknown developer completely talking out of his a** is supposed to be credible. Come on, you little sony freaks are trying way too hard.

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Mr Marbles - 827 days 23 hours ago

1.5 - Gentlemen

lets be reasonable, if you look close at the language here it is clear that this "anonymous developer" is either a SCEA developer, and or a outright Sony plant.

"Due to the PS3's advanced processor, games developed for the Sony backed platform sometimes can't be downgraded to the the 360's chip. "

Neutral developers dont use language like the above, it sounds like something a Sony marketing guy or PR guy would say. Also, he keeps using downgraded when talking about porting to the 360, now think about that, he expects us to believe that the PS3 is too powerful to run what the 360 is running??? and you folks buy that crap? gimmie a break, that is like saying my car is too powerful to go 90mph it can only do 100mph.

"With the 360 being in the range of 2 years old now, it is said they have used about 90% of the systems resources.."

If he is a developer why is he saying they, devs usually say we, when they are talking about thier work.

the more you read it the more biased it sounds, nuetral devs always try not to sound biased even when they are bashing one console and not the other, they only get this biased when they are working with or for one of the big three, this is bogus guys come on, not even worth arguing over, NEXT STORY !

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jmoneezie - 827 days 23 hours ago

1.6 - @secret

Just like the main article, your comment had a whole lot of writing and said absolutely NOTHING. 100% pointless information. Especially when you got into the non-sense about the young development team. (Bunch of noise with no filler)

Also, why are you guys trying so hard to prove that the PS3 is more powerful. If it is, then it is, I don't care and neither should you. This lame, old, and weak excuse about the DEV not knowing how to harness the power of the PS3 is getting old. Remember this, true champions to make excuses, the take FULL blame for their defeats!

Another thing, people talk all the time about how the xbox is really just a low level PC. Well from my experience, the PS3 behaves MORE like a PC than the xbox. When I download an update or play a game on my 360 I don't have to wait for it to install. But, on my PC and my PS3 I do. My PC has bluetooth, My PC runs linux. Although I have no problems with these things, I feel the PS3 is more of a glorified PC then the 360. And with that being said, I only use my PS3 to play games that I can't find on the 360 or the PC.

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Feihc Retsam - 827 days 23 hours ago

1.7 - I hope so!

I hope it this is an accurate forecast.
I love my Xbox360, and it has definitely pulled it's entertainment weight for the past 2 years (almost).
But, for the extra cost, and thus far lack of substantial games, the average PS3 owner is a bit disappointed that they haven't been able to get more high quality "next gen" gaming out of their console.

We ALL know that the PS3 sports a bit of a technological edge, whether the blindly loyal Xbox fanatics want to admit it or not. That is the reason the PS3 costs so much more.

As stated before, the majority of my gaming has been done on an Xbox360 since it's launch, but I have high hopes for my PS3.
I'm personally not expecting to be TRULY immersed in a gaming experience on the PS3 until team ICO releases their next classic, but I do expect some great games until then. One of the first exclusives to come along and knock my socks off is Heavenly Sword.

Heavenly sword is a game that finally made me think that I had something special that you can only get on the PS3 and made the investment worthwhile, but we need more standout titles like this.

For now, the XBOX360 has the head start, developers are familiar with the hardware and can better optimize games for it, and XBOX LIVE is still a better online place for console gaming IMHO.

But I do believe that sometime next year, we will see the technology of the PS3 start to pull it's games up to a level that is not possible on the Xbox360 hardware, and I'm excited for that.

I still expect it to be nearly a toss up into 2008 as far as multiplatform titles go, but I didn't buy either console for the multi-platform titles. It's the exclusives.

I plan on playing a lot of HALO 3 co-op in the coming months, and probably a fair share of some team-based HALO 3 goodness...
But... SONY is working, and games are on the way, and when they start to tap into that CELL processor... I think we will see some amazing things...

The only true way to get the best gaming experience is to own a PS3, XBOX360, Wii, and a nice gaming rig.

But for now... if someone needs a deep library, you have to go with the Xbox360...

And if/when Blu Ray is the common movie format.. The PS3 is a no brainer purchase until those games start showing up.

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gerrard - 827 days 23 hours ago

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Come on guys the PS3 is superior and the second generation games will prove this, and you all know this to be true so stop lying to yourselves.

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hazeblaze - 827 days 23 hours ago

1.9 - Is it denial???

I mean the 360 is going to have plenty of great games regardless... but we've already seen in the last year that the games aren't really making any big improvements visually.

The same simply can't be said for a lot of the PS3 games... they are starting to pull apart from the pack in terms of visual quality.

But in my opinion, that doesn't mean they will win this gen. The xbox clearly had better visuals last gen and it certainly did not win last gen. There are games that I will enjoy on both systems, but the PS3 is starting to look like a beast visually... Haze, MGS4, Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank: Future & KZ2 are some of the most visually satisfying games seen in a while.

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Scrooge - 827 days 22 hours ago

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So we're supposed to "keep waiting"? Sony has the most patient fanbase.

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greed - 827 days 21 hours ago

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oohhh snappssss!!!!!......

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Cryos - 827 days 14 hours ago

1.13 - Mr. Marbles

Mr. Marbles,
you are a complete idiot.

If you would read correctly, what he said was, "Due to the PS3's advanced processor, games developed for the Sony backed platform sometimes can't be downgraded to the the 360's chip. "

Which MEANS, that they devs choose to develope for the 360 as instead of the PS3, because if the game was developed for the PS3 as it's base platform, they sometimes can't port it to the 360, while if they develope for the 360 as it's base platform, they can port it to the PS3.

They said nothing about the PS3 being so powerful that it couldn't run a 360 game, as you so idiotically stated in your reply.

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Spunkmeyer43 - 827 days 9 hours ago

1.14 - When will this stop!!!???

Right firstly the 360 is winning, thats it, more consoles and better games.
This news isn't a revelation and the "war" (how pathetic) isn't about console power, sony constantly shift there targets, there were never arguements over ps2 and xbox comparisons because there was a clear winner in raw power, now there behind on sales there talking about the future and how there power will tell...
Incase no body has noticed theres a little console called the wii which is plopping on them both and in the power department is a distsant 3rd...
Basically sony (and there followers) don't like not dominating, and all you fanboys sony and xbox alike need to be quiet, because i am going to go postal and have a breakdown.
Sony isn't number one any more and wont be at least not in the way they were b4, if in 2 yeas time they are leading the group, it will not be by much. For the first time there are 3 consoles all competing healthily, which means win win for us because more effort will go into products. Why can't you jizz monkeys just enjoy what you have and stop this frankly child like crap! Choose a console enjoy it, and stay well clear of these forums.

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sloth4urluv - 827 days 2 hours ago

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I could create an array of like 64 8-bit microcontroller and writes some code that couldnt be ported to another processor, but that dosnt mean that its more powerfull.

Besides since when has the power of the system determined the systems success.(see previous generation for example)
PS2 was first to the market and the least powerfull of the big 3 systems, it still came out on top.

Now this gen the 360 was first to the market, is cheaper, has more games, and is easier to develop for. The key to the PS2s sucess was its wide variety of games and 3rd party developers. The 360 now holds this spot and is following suite. (excluding the wii which is in a different weight class)

If PS3 wants to catch up, sony needs to swallow their pride, take a big punch to the stomach and spew out lots of games.

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The only thing this really means is unless developers dont like making lots of money they are going to keep the 360 in mind when programming for the game. You really think the devs are going say "hey lets cutout half of our market or increase our production time so we can max out the PS3 a little more?"

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Sangheili85 - 827 days 23 hours ago

2.1 - Poor Poor Nasim...

Do you actually believe the lies you say? I mean honestly? Do you read something then just make that up or change it so it's PRO PS3? R420?? Where the hell did you come up with that? Its a R500 and if you do you're homework and stop making up numbers you would read its more powerful then the PS3 GPU after all the PS3 has a modified 7900 i believe. Might be mistaken on that but either way. The R500 is almost the same thing as the R600 (Which OWNS) but without DirectX10 support.

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DrSelfDestructX - 827 days 17 hours ago

2.2 - Nasim...nasim

Do you spend all your day kissing Sonys ass or do you actually go outside?

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Maddens Raiders - 828 days ago

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Sry Rowland I have nothing against you at all my man but this is definitely not the same. To everyone else out there who feels the need to squat on a little innocent PS3 news: STOP THE HATE!!!!!!!

Good grief.

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Maddens Raiders - 828 days ago

4 - Hmm -

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Ok, the Sentinel has cometh. That means only one thing: This is a positive PS3 story with truth behind it.

W O W - people have gone mad.

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scottie2521 - 827 days 14 hours ago

4.1 - I SAY AGAIN...........

Heavenly Sword & Warhawk sh!ts on any game out now, and any game out in the near future.

there is no game on the 360 that has 1000 enemies on screen at the same time.

there is no game on the 360 that looks anywhere as good.

there is no game on the 360 that is anywhere as much fun.

Warhawk and Heavenly Sword squats and lays a hot juicey turd on Halo and an other game the bots are hoping for. we'll give you this month. after that...........IT'S OVER!

and the best part, i can play my games with no worries of the console burning my house down or crashin. i think i like that part the best.

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wageslave - 827 days 2 hours ago

4.2 - @scotti2521

Perhaps you missed the story about Assassins Creed's Crowd AI being better on Xbox 360 exactly because the PS3 couldnt do large numbers of AI as well?

Remeber that Developer comment? Here ya go:

http://pc.ign.com/articles/...

"While the PlayStation 3 and 360 versions of Assassin's Creed are virtually identical, Raymond did say that on the 360 the team is putting a special emphasis on achievements. ***The hardware also allows for improved threading, which will improve even further the crowd AI.***"

What were you saying again?

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scottie2521 - 827 days 2 hours ago

4.3 - and thats fine.........

thats what these devs are doing, ok. that still doesn't mean just because these devs are doing it, it can't be done better.

have you even played Heavenly Sword? if so there wouldn't even be any doubt in your mind. it was simply amazing fighting 100s at soldiers at a time. that lil comment you posted said nothing about the ps3 not being able to do anyhting.

i hope they do improve the AI in Assassin's Creed because the AI in the 360 demo at E3 was wack. only where to go is up.

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Maddens Raiders - 828 days ago

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jc, can you please be so kind and explain how on God's green earth this is "spam"? It's an article - I posted it; is that the new definition? =]

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@#8 below - attack of the what? Dude, what r u talking about?

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jcgamer - 828 days ago

5.1 - don't ever use the main board post to clarify a report

I was wondering where you were man!

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Jenzo - 827 days 15 hours ago

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It has no real source. Who is the source? Yourself? Stop spreading these kinds of fake news. You are an embarrassment to the Sony fanbase.

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A Man - 828 days ago

6 - This is not spam you f*cking nutcases!

ITS FACT.

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Taker_129 - 827 days 23 hours ago

6.2 - @Just

well you need go pick up Heavenly Sword or Warhawk

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boodybandit - 827 days 21 hours ago

6.3 - Just Louie

It already exist. It's called Warhawk. Nothing has this much going on at any given time without a hint of slowdown all the while holding a rock solid frame rate, flawless online / no lag, w/ 32 players. Show me a game that exist on another console that does all Warhawk does.

I played nearly every FPS, TPS and shooter for the newer consoles online and nothing comes close. But I wouldn't mind being proven wrong.

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boodybandit - 827 days 9 hours ago

6.4 - To the person that gave me a disagree

Name the game that beats Warhawk online. If you are going to disagree with someone that says name the game without naming it makes you a defeated coward and only proves me correct. Nothing beats Warhawk (console gaming) online with all it has going on. Nothing.

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Rhaigun - 827 days 2 hours ago

6.5 - Warhawk is a fun game, but...

...it doesn't exude massive amounts of power. Battlefield 1942 is like a four year-old game with 64-player battles and more detailed environments. I wouldn't try to use Warhawk for power "ownage". Heavenly Sword has nice character models and visuals, but the AI sucks. Not to mention it's too short and repetetive.

I'm tired of excuses. Let's see some results.

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boodybandit - 827 days 2 hours ago

6.6 - I'll go slower for you this time Rhaigun

Show me a "console game" that compares to Warhawk. 32 players, no lag, no slowdown, rock solid frame rates no matter how big a battle. BTW, Battlefield had slowdown, lag, frame rate drops during big battles... everything Warhawk doesn't.

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GodofPeace - 828 days ago

7 - This

article is talking about Moore's Law and how it affects processing power

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blackmagic - 827 days 23 hours ago

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I agree, and the specs for the cell/xenon cpus and rsx/xenos gpus were all finalized summer 2005. The ps3 came to the party a year late because Blu-ray wasn't complete (and still isn't for that matter) not because the cpu/gpu was still in development. If sony had used DVD instead of blu-ray, they could have launched Nov05 just like the 360 and would probably have a sizable lead by now too. Instead, blu-ray was pushed onto the gaming community and the ps3 is trailing a good deal. Heck, I would have bought the ps3 instead of the 360 if it had launched at the same time...

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Nameless - 828 days ago

8 -

Attack Of The Sonians & it works both ways Maddens Raiders not one

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nobizlikesnowbiz - 828 days ago

9.1 - I'm totally cutting myself right now!

I approved this you gigantic d'bag.

Why would I be depressed? My 'xbot' life poops on your face.

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idontcare - 828 days ago

10 - this will cause flame war

but in the end .. it's the truth

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Kigmal - 828 days ago

10.1 - Well,

it's too bad I don't play games for graphics and power, because if I did I'd save up for a PC gaming rig to play Crysis and then laugh at every PS3 owner or Xbox 360 owner who thinks they have a mighty machine.

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Nameless - 828 days ago

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Thats why this article was posted idontcare because of the flame war. Thats this sites purpose. This site is not a news4gamers site it is more of a flamewars4sonians site & the owners of this site does not care or they would be interfering & fixing this site up.

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tehcellownu - 828 days ago

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PS3 have a lot of support too..they have many great games coming out around the end of this year and next..ps3 is a much more powerful system..in the end they will win it...while ya 360 will likely be dead in 3 years..face the fact 360 poorly made product and will die someday on u..

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bluebrad1974 - 827 days 22 hours ago

11.2 - N4G is a borderline garbage website.

This site is over run with Sony paid "plants", and completely delusional sony minions.

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JasonXE - 827 days 12 hours ago

11.3 - They do care

"This site is not a news4gamers site it is more of a flamewars4sonians site & the owners of this site does not care or they would be interfering & fixing this site up."

They do care but don't want to fix something that is not broken. You know how much revenue this site is making on a daily basis? Flame wars = ratings = money money money = good business.

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supaet - 828 days ago

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hahaha....great article, this is how the xbox1 beat the ps2

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A Man - 828 days ago

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The Xbox didnt beat the PS2 you bloody moron.

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supaet - 828 days ago

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lol, then what does that tell you about this article?

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