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MK_Red
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They are really stupid to give same score to both Lair and Stuntman IMO. Lair deserves much more. Also, Uncharted looks stunning and Jericho looks sick. Both are day one must have for me.
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Yeah, Lair deserved at least a 7.5/10 man. They say Lair has no innovation, but it does have innovation by effectively using the sixaxis motion sensing controls. I guess the Wii can only be called innovative for motion sensing controls. Stuntman suxxx...Who even buys Stuntman?. The showing of HAZE is way too dark to make out anything.
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Have you played them? I've only played the demo of Stuntman but I enjoyed it enough to rate it 3/5. I have'nt played Lair yet so I would not know what score it deserves. But you have?
It's funny. Everyone said Lair was gonna be THE game of 2007, and get scores like a AAA title...like Bioshock. Now both Heavenly Sword and LAir are getting 8's out of 10 and Ratchet gets bashed for having poor visuals and last gen gameplay (
http://www.gamesradar.com/u...
What's happening Sony folks?
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"Ratchet gets bashed for having poor visuals"
wow you just lost all credibility right there.
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Jenzo wants a PS3 so badly.
Sad dude .. really sad.
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- 858 days 3 hours ago
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Did you read what GamesRadar had to say? They bashed it for it's visuals saying it basically looks like it's PS2 predecessors but with a little more next gen polish.
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so.. you have obviousy never played bioshock...
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- 857 days 15 hours ago
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"Injecting yourself with sh!t to get magical like powers? wacky!" I'm sure you were kidding right? I mean it's a video game. Rachet is some type of racoon or something with a pet robot, come on man if that's not unrealistic then what is...lol One could almost relate injecting yourself and getting magical powers as using steriods (smile)
But, a gun toting coon with a robot side kick now that's wacky. Just kidding man, I think both games are incredibly nice and represents what they are very well. I just think that it is unfair and dishonest for you to say Bioshock is wacky, I am almost sure that if it was coming out for the PS3 you WOULD buy it in all it's wackiness.
To a certain extent, it okay and sometimes cool to be a fanboy of sorts, but you know you've gotten it bad when you call something garbage that you really know is not, just to annoy someone else.
Bottom line: Both consoles have GREAT games out and coming out, lets get back to giving credit where credit is due. The 360 to this point has a better lineup, the ps3 is more reliable and has a nice blu-ray player. Here is a non-fanboyish look into the future. The PS3 will have Multiple AAA titles out, and .65mm 360 will be out, and BOTH consoles will become great well selling must have consoles for non-psycho-pathic-dedicated fanyboy game console fans! (Wii already is.)
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Simply to be on the safe side, I'm going to cancel my Lair preorder, and switch it to COD4 (which looks mindblowingly awesome) and wait for IGN and other sites to review the final build before deciding if I want it. I'm still hoping that Lair is fixed up a bit in its final build. It seems though that their biggest problem is with the missions.
But with COD4 I have no doubts that Infinity Ward will make an absolute monster of an FPS, and I'm dying to use my FragFX with some more games.
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I have very high hopes for COD4 myself, but also for Haze. I can only imagine what MP will be like if everyone plays dead :)
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3 - Stuntman loosk like CRAP!
ANd was it not the main reason people fear Lair because of the controls?Yet they do not have problmes as well.SO thats good .That repectitve stuff depends on the person who playes they game, they might not find it repeective.
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MK_Red
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Awesome point. Stuntman looks mediocre, has bad controls and story plus its repeatative and yet it gets the same 3/5 as Lair? Talk about biased reviews.
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the first stuntman sucked, definitely not looking to touch this one....
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No one thought Stuntman would get more than 3/5. Try playing the demo before judging. What's disappointing is Lair. Another overhyped garbage title. I see empty promises being broken.
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Seethat's what ive been thinkin this whole time. The thing is, PS3 fanboys, no ones saying the game is crap, but it's just not that good. It's like COD3 good. It's good, but it isn't great.
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Exactly. It's probably good but not great. Not the milestone in gaming as it was said to become. Uncharted is the only PS3 game this year that I think has the potential to deliver on what it has been hyped up to be.
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TombRaider meets Prince of Persia?
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In the Review they said the controls were good. They said it game lacked innovation and looked messy from a visual point. Stuntman sucked though man that game sucks. Haze in the video looked crappy.
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5 - Lair
is an average game according to most reviews. This is the 3rd negative review I have seen.
It will never achieve the legendary status of the Panzer Dragoon Series.
If you want a truly breathtaking dragon riding experience I recommend Panzer Dragoon 1, Zwei, and PD Saga(RPG) for Sega Saturn. Or Panzer Dragoon Orta for XBOX1.
http://www.gametrailers.com...
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Thats the problem with a crap (ill informed and inaccurate) review coming out first. Its so easy for others to just jump on the hate bandwagon. You'd know all about that wouldn't you? All you bots are declaring Lair a flop based just on EGM, even though they admit they review an incomplete copy. But you still take that as gosple because its what you WANT to believe. The sad thing is, the easily swayed actually let in bother them. I guess thats why you keep talking.
Bottomline, it looks gorgeous, controls well and there is nothing else like it on any other system. The fact is CANT be done on your system is reason I think you're trying so hard to tear it down.
This game was never going to be 10 out of 10. Its either your cup of tea or its not, but its still top quality and looks like lots of fun, so I dont reall care what GTV, EGM or YOU, think. The fact you are a well know Sony hater means any opinion of your on anything Sony related is redundant.
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5.2 - Man Bathyj...
You're going off the deep end. It seems that you've made up your mind about the review and reviewers (they must be biased and ignorant) if it doesn't go your way. You used to be one of the more open-minded people on this site. Now you're starting to look a bit desperate. What happened man?
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I dont know Captain. Maybe I'm letting the people who only ever bring negative and never add positive rub off on me.
I Dont think anything I said was really that over the top. Bloodmask is a very anti-Sony person, so I think my response was proportionate to his posts, both current and previous. Hey, if he doesn't like the game he could always just skip the thread, its not like he owns a PS3 or ever will.
Maybe you think I took a cheap shot at Xbox and that upset you. I guess its kinda true, when defending sometimes you have to shoot back but I really didn't say anything I dont believe. I just dont think Xbox could do this game. Thats just my opinion, but for the record there lots of things I dont like about Xbox or M$ but I'm still glad to have one. Overall its a great machine despite its problems.
I fully admit Lair wont be for everyone, but I think it deserves a chance and shouldn't be written off because of the EGM "review." We all know what the story was there, I dont have to go over it. And having watched this video right now I want it even more, and the reviewer seemed to give an average score, more for the fact it lacked multiplayer than anything. Thats doesn't bother me at all and I dont see Bioshock being marked down for it, and nor should it. It was a conscience decision. It goes back to what I said first, if this game had received only 9's from the start he might not mark it down so much for that, but since EGM already muddied the waters why not be a bit harsh. At least you wont be standing there alone.
Anyway, my 2 cents.
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5.4 - Good points Bathy...
Thanks for the response.
Don't let the bastards get you down! lol
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5.5 - Cheers Mate.
Hey, I'm a Bastard myself, but thats my parents fault, I had nothing to do with it.
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I would agree with some of what you are saying. Look at Dynasty Warriors, gets average reviews at best but still fans play the heck out of it because it's their cup of tea. Personally I'm a big fan of Factor Five and generally know what to expect from them. As for not being able to run on the Xbox I'd agree, but it would definitely run on the 360(a little joke, I know what you meant) The only part that wouldn't work on the 360 would be the motion controls, everything else is possible. One last thing is that there are other games like this such as Drakengard for PS2, so it's not 100% original and I think the reviewers took this into account. People should listen to the reviewers "opinions" and stop staring down the number at the end of the review.
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6 - I couldnt care less about lair
But uncharted looks amazing and i'm buying it.
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7 - It is not the 3rd negative review
Please get your facts right.This review is average.and its been only one.
EGM 5.5
Play Magazine 9/10
Gamepro 3.75/5
PSW*UK mag* 8/10
I only see one, gamepro is average as well, not bad.They also palyed and erlay review copy ,not the final
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8 - people are entitled to their own opinions
and @ loud ninja
When a game gets Alot of hype and has huge expectations...
'avarage' IS a negative review...
but I also agree.....Lair deserves more...
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8.1 - Sorry but what kind of knowledge is that?
And average is average not negative.Resistance got lots of average reviews as well.
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you proved his point loudninja
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his point being if super mario galaxy or the next zelda got less than a nine, it would be viewed as a dissapointment, a negative review.
Now Lair isnt on the same level as mario, metroid, zelda, or MGS. but they hyped the hell out of it and it is coming from FACTOR 5? no? they do know something about flying games yes?
so, this would be a dissapointment, to alot of people, and a negative review, for what was projected.
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sorry loudninja-negative feedback for you. Resistance didn't get lots of average reviews; it got very good reviews.
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8.5 - @beavis4play "sorry loudninja-negative feedback for you."
What?!
If you think he's wrong hit DISAGREE (that's what it's for!)
Don't take the man's bubbles for that comment!
OMFG some people like to abuse the system.
Oh BTW, I didn't agree with what you did, so I'm wondering now if I should give you negative feedback and take your bubs just to make a point?
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9 - maybe Lair 2 can have multiplayer
Uncharted looks amazing, Timeshift looks sweet too.
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10 - Personally, I'm excited about the game.
That said, I played the crap outta Drakengard, which most people didn't fancy too much.
Dragons in 1080p? Check.
Massive, carnage ridden battlefields? Check.
Orchestral score? Check.
I could care less what the critics think. The problem with being a critic, is that you are so saturated in the medium that you never really see things objectively anymore. Ask a homicide detective what they think about the crime rate. Ask a plastic surgeon what they think about the symmetry of your face. Ask a movie/ music/ video game reviewer what they thought of a product, and they've probably "seen it before" in some regard or can find fault with it. They are critics, they are paid to critique, and too often criticize instead.
I'm a gamer, I enjoy the experience of gaming. If I put a game in and it engages me, it's a winner, end of story.
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Couldn't agree more.
I think Lair is really a game that needs to be experienced, not just looked at.
As one preview said:
If you don't feel anything while flying over the ocean in the moonlight while listening to the haunting orchestral score, you're dead inside.
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reviewers are so caught in find all the faults in a game that they don't take the time too sit back and enjoy it. Take Spiderman 3 for example, the game was full of glitches and bad camera angles, but the game was fun it you look past the little issues. Overall, i think Lair will be a fantastic game and if not well there is Heavenly Sword, lol.
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You saved me time posting. Bubbles for you.
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but it looks much more repective than Lair, I mena much more
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Truly agreed. Aside from different movies, it seems to have just the same or similair stunts for the whole game and with such mediocre graphics, why framerate is NOT 60 is puzzling. With Burnout Paradise, all these games look and seem terrible.
I may buy Stuntman but no way in hell I give it the same score as Lair. I love Factor5 and love Lair and for me, its a great game and a must have.
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having multiplayer modes. They need to review the modes that are there, not ones that don't exist in the first place. It's like complaining that God of War doesn't have Capture the Flag.
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I agree entirely, really dumb to knock a game for not having multi player when it was always going to be a single player only game.
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12.2 - Well. Bioshock doesn't have MP and look at it's reviews
there is no excuse.
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You're right, there's no excuse if the games were both reviewed by the same logic..
The thing is Bioshock was reviewed as a single player game without taking points from the lack of multiplayer. They just gave Bioshock the reviews it deserved as a great single player game. period.
Lair should be reviewed the same.
So the "there is no excuse." does not fit too well in this situation.
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