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Splinter Cell Conviction producer: "PS3 can't handle AI nearly as well as the 360"

A developer from Ubisoft, you know, the same people that said Naruto for the 360 can only be done on the 360, have let another one loose. However this time, the wii gets a piece of the action.

In a recent interview with Gameplayer.com.au, Splinter Cell Conviction producer and technical director Dany Lepage had this to say.

"It's NEVER gonna come out on the PS3 or the Wii." It's a logical decision. Nintendo's console simply doesn't have the graphical horsepower, and he candidly told Gameplayer.com.au how the PS3 can't handle AI nearly as well as the 360.

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MK_Red - 876 days 16 hours ago

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Yeah right, before EA had 25% shares in Ubisoft, SC4: Double Agent came out for every known platform aside DS I think. Why would they in their current state (With EA voting) NOT want to bring the game to PS3 and Wii? Even PS2, PSP and DS are possiblities.

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Real Gambler - 876 days 12 hours ago

1.1 - This is another comment we have to take with a grain of salt

C'mon, you have to watch a long video of an artist to finally hear him say "the village he is showing is so “DETAILED” no other platform could handle it, yes not even the PS3 or the Wii."
The game is a cartoon!!! There's no fight animation. If you talk to someone, you get a buble with a pictogram, and there's at one point you see a whooping 4 people on screen. 3 of them are standing still!

Sorry, but large world or not, this can easily be done on a Wii, but worst, it look like it can be done on any previous gen consoles!!!!

That's what you get when you take the comment from an artist (I admit some know a lot about the hardware, but many are just simply true artist...)

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Silver360 - 876 days 11 hours ago

1.2 - MS brought this game

They announced months ago taht it would be a 360 exclusive.

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1.3 nasim | 876 days 10 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

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supnub5 - 876 days 10 hours ago

1.5 - When will devs learn to keep their mouth shut

it is known that cell is more powerful, just look at capabilities of cell and look at xenon's, but i'm not bashing, if he wants a good Ai, why don't he look at Uncharted, that game has a lot better animation, better ai, and looks a lot more beautiful.

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ip-student - 876 days 10 hours ago

1.6 - Your all confused

The XBOX 360 CPU is superior when it comes to AI, the Cell is superior when it comes to physics. This has been known for a while. The new Splinter Cell seems to place more emphasis on AI - it is part of the game play. Therefore, you cannot do it on either Wii or the PS3. However, throw it on a PC and it would be easy. Just goes to show that MIPS does not give the whole story - anyone who thinks otherwise is just swallowing hype.

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ZyKlOn - 876 days 5 hours ago

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another developer paid off by M$.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$

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1.8 Jeremy Gerard | 876 days 4 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

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reaperxciv - 875 days 18 hours ago

1.9 - WOW!

this article pisses the crap off every sony fanboy...tsk tsk

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gaffyh - 875 days 16 hours ago

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LOL. PS3 can't handle AI??? Nevermind the fanboy comments, if a console can't handle AI it might as well be a paperweight. What the hell are these devs talking about??? They keep shooting themselves in the foot, if they think the PS3 can't handle AI then Haze and Assassin's Creed will probably have a pile of crap AI system.

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Loudninja - 876 days 16 hours ago

2 - LMAO!

Naruto? what is so complexed about that game? AC .Its just PR BS,not a thing about Naruto is complexed.

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2.1 rubarb23 | 876 days 14 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

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tplarkin7 - 876 days 14 hours ago

2.2 - Jade Raymond says...

She said the same thing about Assassins Creed. The AI will be superior in the 360 version according to her. When will people learn that the PS3 isn't what Sony promised on paper? The 360 has proven to be more powerful everytime.

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Hatchetforce - 876 days 13 hours ago

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It is precisely that - BS. The PS3 has hardware PPU capabilities for physics AND AI! Damn, how stupid can these people be? I love being a dual platform owner as each system has it's strengths but with hardware there for use, the PS3 could handle AI better. It amazes me how asinine these devs can be when they open their mouths.

If you have visited enough game studios, and some of us have worked in them, then you know a great deal of the time these trash talkers do not have dev kits from other consoles around. Basically they can talk out their ass and no one is the wiser. "Oh well, they are devs. They must know, right?" No.

On the PS3 you have to ability to run low level AI on the SPU and then as the AI reaches more involved tasks, specifically where the player enters close contact with them you can move this to the PPU and get the best hardware backing possible...IF YOU KNOW HOW THE PS3 WORKS, ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS TO A PS3 DEV KIT AND DEVELOPMENT SOFTWARE, AND ARE NOT A RUN OF THE MILL IDIOT THAT PRODUCES SOME OF THE MOST BRAIN DEAD AI LIKE WE HAVE SEEN IN PAST SPLINTER CELL GAMES.

When it comes to intelligent AI, Splinter Cell developers in Montreal and Shanghai really need to refrain from making comments. The name of their games can be summed up like this, 'Don't beat the game, just beat the by rote pattern.'

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Ju - 876 days 13 hours ago

2.4 - Jade Raymond

Is pretty...and I hope she knows how to code, too.

Only one thing: Lightning effects in KZ2. (Cell shades light. Do this with 3fixme).

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tplarkin7 - 876 days 13 hours ago

2.5 - You may be right, but...

We need to see some examples of the power of the PS3. That's all I'm saying. I have no clue regarding the technology of the Cell. All I know is what Sony promised and all I see is what Sony delivered. The 360 has proven to be the most powerful console, based on the games.

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Gorgon - 876 days 12 hours ago

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For those of you that DO have some memmory, I still remember when Assassin's Crees was only anounced for the PS3 yet and at that time the publicity was "only the power of the Cell and PS3 can run this game"...

Incredible what Microsoft's money can do, heh?

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jromao - 876 days 16 hours ago

3 - PS3 dumb ??

Or ... this developer don't know how to code in PS3 ?

That's most probably, all planet knows the power of PS3, if he said that title was developed to 360 and "we don't know" how to port it to PS3 then it would be close to true for sure.

Lame.

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CRIMS0N_W0LF - 876 days 16 hours ago

4 - Fact

Other developers said its easy to develop on PS3. This includes Capcom and Tecmo and some other forgot name.

http://i12.photobucket.com/...

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heroman711 - 876 days 16 hours ago

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true

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TriggerHappy - 876 days 16 hours ago

5 - Well

According to him, the PS3 isn't smart enough to understand some complex stuff, the naruto stuff was the best though, i lol'ed

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MK_Red - 876 days 15 hours ago

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Agreed on Naruto, Big LOL.

Thank God they're just making a semi-yearly sequel to Splinter Cell, not a huge production like Assassin's Creed.

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StrboyM - 876 days 16 hours ago

6 - translation

we will sell it to xbox fanboys first before we do a crappy port then sell it to ps3 fanboys.....cha-ching!!

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reaperxciv - 876 days 14 hours ago

6.1 - yeah

well business is business

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Idmpc - 876 days 13 hours ago

6.2 - Sounds so much like...

...what they did with Splinter Cell Double Agent
Works slow but best than any other version on Xbox360, sucks badly on PS3 and crashes on most PCs

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CRIMS0N_W0LF - 876 days 16 hours ago

7 - This whole topic

is about Naruto?

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heroman711 - 876 days 15 hours ago

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i no, they rather say 360 is better cause they can play naruto then stop a future flame war

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Juevani - 876 days 16 hours ago

8 - ^^^couldnt say it better my self^^^

We'll see around March 2008 ;0)

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beavis4play - 876 days 8 hours ago

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right, in march of '08, when MGS4 is out, kojima should get Lepage and Raymond and bang their heads together because they are such goobers. then make both watch MGS to see how a game is made. ubisoft is just ripping off MGS with splinter cell and Naruto looks like a 16 bit game. and as far as AI is concerned, in one splinter cell screen, it has sam using a folding table as cover from bullets. i don't know if ubisoft knows this but-A FOLDING TABLE WON'T STOP BULLETS! so stop talking about your complicated, superior AI. it seems it's anything but.

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CRIMS0N_W0LF - 876 days 16 hours ago

9 - WARNING!

theMART and POG troops are approaching!

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Tackle990 - 875 days 23 hours ago

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WOW, 2 360 fanboys compared to the countless ps3 fanboys around here trolling the 360 stories.....

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heroman711 - 876 days 15 hours ago

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the mart is dead to me.

this shouldnt be getting reviewed. the kocky 360 owners will be like "hell yeah ps3 sucks " and then ps3 owners will be all defensive and be like " no i dosent look at our lineup - lair, folklore, etc etc." huge flame war.

p.s. we dont know if lair sucks or not. only reason got a bad review by egm was cause they didnt have the latest build unlike play ppl who gave it a 9/10. so lets just wait to sep 4 and then say if it sucks or not

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heroman711 - 876 days 15 hours ago

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wait a minute. if ubisoft said this, isnt haze a ubisoft title and the ps3 is the lead format for that game ?
or is ubisoft the publisher ? im confused

p.s. i dont care for splinter cell games cause the last two sucked balls. Mgs4 looks better.

how is ps3 hard to develop for when ppl like ninja theory, konami, square enix, capcom, free radical, guerilla, etc can make games like ninja gaiden sigma, mgs4, finla fantasy 13 and vs, dmc4, haze, killzone 2 etc.

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MK_Red - 876 days 15 hours ago

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If they were talking about games like Crysis, it was a bit acceptable that "they" couldn't get their complex code into the machine (But maybe someone else could). Even BioShock is acceptable thought PS3 seems well capable of both. When developer of two games that have gotten really bad buzz till now (SC5 got really bad reactions from Ubi days and many called its graphics Xbox1 looking. Naruto ROTN was totally ignored during E3).

The only real big and complex game coming from Ubisoft is Assassin's Creed and if a game that big, complicated and ambitious is coming to PS3, then these nagging devs are just really lazy or really dumb (Or both).

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heroman711 - 876 days 15 hours ago

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couldnt say better myself

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idontcare - 876 days 15 hours ago

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i think this is not true. maybe they can't handle the ps3 .. who knows?

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paracardium - 876 days 15 hours ago

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some more lazy BS from Ubisoft... everyone else is started to utilize the ps3 except Ubisoft/EA it seems. Dragonballz looks better for ps2 then this Naurto.

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icdedppl - 876 days 15 hours ago

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what has failed to be said is that AI is actual code written by the developer. it has nothing to do with the system. i mean, how many games come out for the pc that you have played and some have horrible AI and some don't. pc is the same "platform" accross the board. the only difference is the software that is written for it.

to say that the ps3 or wii can't handle certain GFX or AI just means that they won't code it or they don't know how to. there is an obvious lack of talent then if that quote is actually true.

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illizit - 876 days 8 hours ago

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Your are pretty much right on the money however, there are certain aspects to the hardware that allow a more direct way of coding specific AI codes. Such as collision detection, depending on the SDK (I have not seen Sony's) they may have easier ways of doing this sort of code such as through an API call, this in turn will allow more efficient coding which is something Ubisoft and EA love! (Less time, more money) However, the easier way is not always the best. I have always believed and seen (in my programming experience) that the harder it is, the better it CAN be. If you have very simple SDK's (Microsoft's XNA framework) yes, you can develop a game fairly quickly and easy however I can assure you it won't be able to do amazing animation, etc that looks anywhere near the ps3.

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AuRoN89 - 876 days 15 hours ago

16 - LOL

PS3 can't handle this AI??? LOL how noob are these programmers?

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SuperSaiyan4 - 876 days 15 hours ago

17 - *Sigh*

For a Ubi rep to say something as stupid as that is insane, I think they need to concentrate more on developing decent games rather than just throwing poo in their own face.

Because think about it, they also develope games for the PS3...So if they have made such a complain it could mean they will just continue to make substandard PS3 games...

However looks like ALL their games of late are substandard...

They have NEVER got the Rainbow 6 games right on the Xbox even with the Unreal 3 engine the game STILL has the same problems as the very first Rainbow!

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Retro-Virus - 876 days 15 hours ago

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Actually what he's trying to say is since the PS-3 can have 1 dedicated core for A.I and may be even physics, they have to make sure the rest is synchronous with the other cores.

The gist - he finds parallel processing hard and gave up.

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SofaKingReetodded - 876 days 15 hours ago

20 - I would sit this ahole down

and have em play through a couple of levels of Resistance and then ask him if the PS3 has weak AI.

what an idiot,they definitely have a beef with the PS3. I wonder why, could it be because double agent was an abosulte piece of dog poo for the PS3? lol

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strongbad1441 - 876 days 10 hours ago

20.1 - i agree

resistance did have some good AI

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Barrett - 876 days 15 hours ago

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Why should the PS3 can´t handle the AI like the 360. I think the Cell in particular the SPU´s are powerful enough and also much more powerful than the Xenon in the 360.

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AllroundGamer - 876 days 15 hours ago

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never liked SC games, they are just a lame MGS ripoff, MGS FTW!!

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