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Sonys Ego Cost Them Their Own Halo

Sony has had a ton of opportunities to capitalize on Microsoft some worked, and some didnt' but the most crucial missed opportunity was having Call Of Duty all to themselves. Sony would've been in such a bigger position than their in now but a couple of slip ups has kept them away from even greater strides they would've currently had.
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AclayPS3 - 42 days 14 hours ago
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Well first of all, I think it's pretty safe to say that NOBODY (including Sony) ever thought that Call of Duty 4 would have turned out to be such an immense success, because before Call of Duty 4, the COD franchise was pretty well known, but it definitely wasn't as much of a Mainstream name that Call of Duty is now, so it's no surprise Sony didn't take a chance on it.

I think Sony made the right decsion to invest in their 1st and 2nd party this gen., because when you look at all the 3rd party Franchises that have gone Multiplatform, even if COD4 was only on PS3 it would've been only a matter of time before it hit the Xbox 360 because greedy Bobby Kotick wouldn't have it any other way regardless.

Sony already was investing a ton of money in Killzone 2, so I don't really blame them for not wanting to dish out loads of more money for yet another shooter when they were already building their possible flagship shooter. And you can't forget that Sony has a pretty large 1st and 2nd party, and were funding a SLEW of other big projects on top of KZ2, in addition to loosing a LOT of money early on from PS3 sales....You have to take into consideration many more factors HHG before you go mouthing off.

As far as Microsoft treating some big 3rd party games like 1st party games... well, they HAVE too because there's not as much going on in Microsoft's 1st party lineup compared to Sony's and Microsoft isn't supporting 3 platforms on the market at the same time like Sony.

There's no doubt that Sony was a little arrogant that the beginning of this gen., but Sony has humbled themselves for quite a while now, and I don't think their "Ego" has anything to do with not wanting paying for Call of Duty.
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Digitaldude - 42 days 14 hours ago
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I agree, being financial smart isn't being arrogant.
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skeletonss - 42 days 14 hours ago
2 - we should start a petition
to make hip hop gamer grow a moustache and talk like carl winslow from family matters
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XDF - 42 days 14 hours ago
3 - Man, Hippoplamer...
I think you got it twisted..There is no way Infinity Ward or Activision made the offer to Sony for Call of Duty franchise as an exclusive on PS3. Like always, you are pulling BS out of your A__. Call of Duty was the best selling xbox 360 launch title and established Call of Duty to Console fan like what the Original Halo did for Xbox. Also, Call of Duty 3 sold way better on X360.

And you are going to come out with this BS. GTFOH.

For anything, Microsoft would be in a better position to buy the exclusive or timed exclusive rights to Call of Duty than anything.

Stop making PS3 fantasies and report on something at least believable, for once.
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hiphopgamer - 42 days 14 hours ago
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yo XDF, there's a interview with infinity ward where they came out and said it themselves man, i was trying to find out but couldn't because i wanted to feature it in my article, also I should be having something major soon regarding this very article you've watched tonight so stay tuned to that.

The reason for offering this game exclusively was because of the pay out they wanted from sony too work on only the ps3 because they love the architecture and what you can get out of it. that's one of the reasons why infinity ward was one of the first companies to make the ps3 version of a game great instead of broken like other companies during bad port times of ps3
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ZootHornRollo - 42 days 11 hours ago
3.2 - hippy hoppy
thats a bold face lie your saying there buddy. if IW liked the ps3 there would be cod betas and other good stuff. not subpar graphics and subpar games. let alone the fact they build the game on teh xbox first then on the ps3.

its a known fact IW loves making babies with MS and all the money they toss around to hide the fact there system is crap.

and again where is all the cod beta's and crap? all on xbox.
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hiphopgamer - 42 days 14 hours ago
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@cyrax you do have a point a game doesn't have to sell 4 million in a day to reach that number and be a success, but look at it this way the quicker you can get your return on investment the better it is for business. that goes for stock shares, financial reports, development of newer titles, and there's a ton of more situations that occur when the return on investment happens at a faster rate.

Also the perception on those type of titles ensures faster growth within the company that's making and publishing the title. gamers see halo, call of duty, and gta, gran turismo, god of war, and nothing else matters but halo, cod, and gta is on a higher level even gears of war is in that category. and within that list you have microsoft exclusives not sony exclusives in terms of that super record breaking fast return.

Uncharted 2 did a million in a week which is great but a game of that quality with multiplayer should've , and maybe the 3rd times the charm, but that should've done 1.5 2million day one i mean look at it.
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Lt_Skittles - 42 days 14 hours ago
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Sales mean crap. Seriously. The only thing that sales means is there is a high chance that there will be sequel. Did you enjoy UC2? That's all that matters, and it means that you will probably like other games from Naughty Dog, or games like Uncharted, and no I'm talking Gears 2, because that's a shooter, I'm talking Tomb Raider. I did enjoy the first Uncharted, because it was like watching an Indiana Jones movie except for the fact that Drake uses a gun, and I am looking forward to UC2. It reminded me of the last crusade actually to be specific, because Sully was older than Drake, and Drake had a journal to show how to do the puzzles.
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IRetrouk - 42 days 14 hours ago
5 - @ Halo3 MLG Pro
I want to argue wit you halo but i just cant be bothered,Fook it you have this coming. you constantly talk crap about a game that showed no inovation or originality, halo is just a fps that is very generic and has nothing new to add to the genre, im sorry if you cant accept that but its true, at least sony didnt rush any of there games this gen unlike ms, you know the ones im on about, forza, halo, and a few others and dont give me the, your a sony fanboy, cause i play my xbox just as much if not more than my ps3, i talk the truth and it probably hurts you, check my gamercard on xbl if ya dont beleave me, End of the day you seem to think that halo is the game to end all games but its not, you got riped when you bought halo 3 and you got ripped when you bought halo odst. and just for the record i am not having a go at the 360 just you and your very fanboi comments. to be honest i think you are a bit of a loser and nothing is gona change that.
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HDgamer - 42 days 12 hours ago
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Hey he has to sleep at night, Halo 3 ODST just showed him what a noob he was when he played the campaign and firefight mode
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-DeathWraith- - 42 days 14 hours ago
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Halo3 MLG Pro: Why do you keep having to troll PlayStation 3 related articles?

Shouldn't you be off playing the "superior" system, since you keep claiming that it is with your beloved Halo rehashes?
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XDF - 42 days 13 hours ago
6.1 - "Why do you keep having to troll PlayStation 3 related articles? "
Don't make me laugh dude.

It is from Hippopgamer

It is about a multiplatform game

It is also talking about HALO.

How is that a PS3 only article?

So xbox fanboys have every right to say their piece in this article.

Now, go tell that to your PS3 pals that are trolling on all the Forza and Halo reviews the past two months.

Now apologize to my friend Halo3 MLG Pro.

Now
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Lt_Skittles - 42 days 13 hours ago
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It has both channels, and XDF I wouldn't admit having a friend like Halo Mlg
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HDgamer - 42 days 12 hours ago
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Xbox defense Fierce, always in ps3 articles bashing games you never played. It's funny very funny and really sad at the same time. Have fun sleeping at night knowing you only have one AAA game for 2009, MW2.
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mythamp - 41 days 18 hours ago
6.4 - LOL
followed by ROFL for having a friend in Halo3 MLG Pro. Thats a sad life to live, HALO everything all day long, so SAD!!! Halo is so 90's like some have already stated. Unless you just got an xbox as a gift on your 15th birthday last year. Move on.
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Bloodshoteyz - 42 days 14 hours ago
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I don't think your giving a fair Analysis, however you are entitled to your obvious biased opinion that you are feeding us HHG. Sony has always played a hard game and you are only witnessing the beginning of there power over the industry with this gen.
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Cyrax_87 - 42 days 13 hours ago
8 - "Now, go tell that to your PS3 pals that are trolling on all the Forza and Halo reviews the past two months."
I never support fanboyism but they kinda deserved it after all the weeks of:

"DEFINITIVE"
"GT5 Killer"
"Best simulator this gen"
"Forza has no competition"
"Forza ahead of the comp by miles"

"Halo, another nail in Sony's coffin"
"Halo will outsell all of Sony exlusives combined this fall"
"Halo"
"Halo!"
"HALO!!!"

ect
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-DeathWraith- - 42 days 13 hours ago
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@XDF: Never once stated in my comment that it was in regards to an exclusive. But it's mainly in relation to Sony and PlayStation 3 itself, reglardless if he brings up Halo or Call Of Duty.

Xbox 360 fanboys have every right do they? Says who exactly? You? No bloody fanboy has any right to blindlessy troll an article for a system they either won't ever experience, or refuse to experience because they're blinded by their fanboyism.

My pals? What pals? I'm not anyones side, and yet you somehow think they're my "pals". My real pals are the ones who don't blindlessy talk s*** on either a system or an exclusive, and Halo 3 MLG Pro is a good example of someone that clearly isn't my "pal".
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Feral Gamer - 42 days 13 hours ago
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Somebody take HHG's soapbox away. While they're at it, take the video cam as well.
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Dawn_Of_Ashes - 42 days 13 hours ago
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hiphopgamer... the most unreliable source of gossip on the interwebz
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Jdoki - 42 days 12 hours ago
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If Sony had Call of Duty as an exclusive it would sell the same numbers as any other PS3 exclusive.

So why would Sony bother with CoD exclusivity when they already have their bases covered? People can choose Killzone or MAG or Call of Duty - Seems like a sweet deal to me!

Halo is the exception, not the rule when it comes to sales - so people really need to realise that we will probably never see another IP that sells in those volumes. Halo is MS' flagship title. It gets 30million+ dollars in advertising alone - that guarantees a certain number of sales irrespective of the quality of the product.

People also need to remember that Call of Duty is one of the biggest selling IP in gaming. To have it on one console would mean less sales, which means less revenue, which means less money available to develop the next CoD title - so it's arguable whether MW2 would be the game it is today if it was an exclusive. The developers get zero benefit by being exclusive.
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mastiffchild - 42 days 7 hours ago
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Great post m,ate. I'd go further though-people just don't think about the way Halo became SO important to MS do they? It released at a very good time for it to grow among the userbase of the original Xbox and at the time offered what nothing else did on a console shooter.

This informed MS of the importance of getting in first on the console market and led to the rushed release of the 360-this didn't, however, work as well as Halo itself did because many gamers have a relayionship with Sony and Ninty from past generations and weren't as desperate for a hero to rally behind as Xbox gamers were with Halo.

The relationship is symbiotic if you ask me and MS know it-if Halo does well, they do well and they support it however they can as a result throwinga ll kinds of cash at doing so. A huge fanbase, a game which sells their system and a system you nuy to play Halo, no? Sony has NEVER had that kind of game.

Even GT, which is a bigger franchise than Halo if anything isn't AS im,portant to Sony as Halo is to MS or we'd have seen one for the PS3 by now(Prologue doesn't count and is like releasing ODST as the first Halo on 360). Not that when it lands GT5 won't sell loads and sell PS3s, it will, just not at the percentage Halo does for 360.

Halo, then, is in a unique position and should be seen as such. However the merits of one game being SO important to a console are limited at best and is like putting all your eggs in one basket which is why I'd have thought they'd have bought Hears lock stock and barrel by now. One game, even Halo, isn't big enough to warrant and attack on first place in the console race, imo, and the more spread demographic Sony support might be a better bet long term. Imagine, btw, if Bungie or whoever, made a really poor Halo or went too far unpdating it and angered the fanbase? THAT would be a disaster for MS-maybe not for that games sales but for the next one, certainly, and possibly for the health of the series and MS as a console maker.

I'm not digging them out but do think it's a little risky to have one game so important to your console model.
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jkhan - 42 days 12 hours ago
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LOL @ HHG
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MW2 review if ps3 exclusive:
short campaign,
not much innovation,
piss poor graphics,
too gamey,
rehash of last year entry in the series
& oh no dedicated servers,
7/10
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MichaelJackson - 42 days 11 hours ago
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It's better than Halo.
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AliC - 42 days 12 hours ago
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yo yo yo, I'm been da stereotypical gangsta!!!!
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lavitz - 42 days 9 hours ago
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yo yo yo, stfu!!!
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DigitalAnalog - 42 days 11 hours ago
15 - Ok, I must admit I was caught unaware...
I spat whatever drink I just had in my mouth when I saw a familiar silouhette then suddenly morphed into the man known as HHG.
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belowradar - 42 days 10 hours ago
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I'm not a big fan oh HHG but anyone with a internet connection, camera and a youtube account can become a game journalist. This site makes it worse by carrying straight gossip but I'm sure that's why most of us come here anyways.
I've played all the games being debated here and I'm not a big fan of Halo at all. It's cool to bash Halo, but it seriously takes dedication to get good at that game. I agree that the graphics have been weak but it is over 2 years old and yes ODST was made using the same engine but noone cared about graphics it was all about gameplay, ie: Firefight mode, multiplayer and co-op. I don't think it was a system seller but I guarantee this holiday season we'll see an increase of ODST sells and systems being moved.
Now my opinion on some of the PS3 games mentioned. I've played everyone mentioned and been part of the betas of said games too. I wasn't impressed with KZ2 at all, but I can see the appeal to it. I'm not gonna bash it, I just don't care for it. I enjoyed but Resistance games but I wished Insomniac would've done more with R2 after the release but they haven't. I can't say much about MAG seeing how I only played the beta so I will hold of judgement till it releases.
To anyone that's been playing MW2 on PSN knows about the issues that IW has had, but MS has had none of these. It comes down to MS hosting dedicated servers which what you pay for with LIVE.
I don't agree with making your fans pay for a weak demo (GT5). I'm sure it will sell millions though but that game has been in development almost as long as Prey/ Too Human and we know how that came out.
I'm just glad that I have been fortunate enough to own both systems and play great games on both. That's all
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Omega Zues - 42 days 9 hours ago
17 - lol
like hell activision would ever be exclusive to any thing. Its activision ego thats dropping the ball. Right now activision path is leaving the consoles all together and having their own over priced plastic crap for you to buy.

activision wont be getting a cent from me. I gladly passed up MW2. But if your a MW fan and enjoy it well more power to ya.
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kyzer1978 - 42 days 8 hours ago
19 - BAN HIPHOPGAMER ARTICLES FROM N4G.COM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please, please, please, PLEASE!!!!! One of the MODS needs to step up and get rid of this guys pathetically ignorant articles. The guy is a text book example of what is wrong the gaming community. For the love of god mods please do everyone a favor and stop this guys crap from getting published here on N4G.com. The time has come to get rid of this guy once and for all.
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gamingisnotacrime - 42 days 8 hours ago
21 - CoD 4 sold great thanks in big part to the 360 install base
360 owners are FPS lovers mostly. The PS3 was more expensive, and the PS3 demography has shown that FPS are not record braking sellers.
If CoD 4 were PS3 exclusive, maybe the game would not be as huge as it is. And Sony not paying for exclusives is not ego, is company policy. Sony 1st party studios is so big, they are willing to ride on their own all this gen, and why not? They are pushing the PS3 with Blu Ray and Cell processor, which 3rd parties barely tap.

HHG logic is not solid on this one, CoD MW as PS3 exclusive is fail
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sid4gamerfreak - 42 days 8 hours ago
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gamingisnotacrime - Agree wid u completely
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Bits-N-Kibbles - 42 days 8 hours ago
23 - I see the picture of HHG
I leave.
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hiphopgamer - 42 days 8 hours ago
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When I talk about sonys ego i'm talking about in previous years like in 2007, not currently. Currently Sony is a beast for real and they've been humbled dramatically, but the what if what's going on currently happened much earlier instead of just 2009. Their position with the devs, the gamers, and the overall PS3 presence would've been much higher. I LOVE SONY I have 140 plus games for PS3 I support everyone but at the same time I have too point out things that I've noticed that didn't seem too correct on sonys part initially.

god bless ya'll and thanks for checking out the video article at least for those who watched it in full.
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gumgum99 - 42 days 6 hours ago
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Why can we just stay in the here and now? Everyone knows Sony messed up on a lot of things in its first two years, so we should leave it at that.
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gumgum99 - 42 days 6 hours ago
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There's no "ego" about it. Call of Duty was always a multi-platform franchise.It wouldn't have made a difference either way.
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darkseid1 - 42 days 6 hours ago
26 - HHG BS ALERT!!!!!
once again this guy just keep talking out from his ass
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nikrel - 42 days 5 hours ago
27 - Something to think about HHG & Everyone else.
The PS3 - It Only Does Everything.

How many people just purchased a Playstation 3 for the Blu-Ray player alone? I know for a fact people do this, they aren't worried about games they were looking for a great blu-ray player that is upgradeable via FW's.

There will never be a statistic for us to see how people use their PS3 for Gaming or for dvd/blu-ray playback.

This is the reason game sales are so low IMO, so many PS3's are just for video playback.
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SportsFan - 42 days 5 hours ago
28 - SONY IS FINE.....
THE PS3 HAS SOLD AROUND 27 MILLION PS3 SYSTEMS, VERSUS AROUND 32 MILLION XBOX 360'S. That is pretty good and damn near even in my book. (Not that is matters...both companies are making bank!) I don't know a ton about games, but I do know that Call of Duty has never been a exclusive. If I am correct, PC, PS1/PS2, and Xbox/Xbox 360 had Medal of Honor, which most of IW staff developed. Also, Call of duty has made multiple appearances on all of the systems.

No disrespect, as he brings out great information, but HipHopGamer is passing "suspect" or his own opinion on this issue. And in regards to Sony's ego...the PS3 is the better constructed system, so they were not lying when they said that. How PS3's have been hacked so far? What is the Pirate rate of big time games? If developers knew that the 360 would be modded so easily, you know who they would use for their games! 360 is a awesome machine, I'm just defending Sony's Playstation products. Rather you like PS3 or not, Sony is cutting edge and innovative. PS3 hopes do not rely on a game...as we have all seen! ARROGANCE?!!! Which company is charging people JUST to look at Netflicks? (It's FREE to look at netflicks on PSN)
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Morituri - 42 days 4 hours ago
29 - Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda
Who knows what could have been with such intangible elements of such a complex equation of what goes on in the gamer's nebulous mental realm?

Either way, sony is doing ok on their own terms. Personally, cod still doesn't do much for me. Every time I try to force my way through the single player, I'm bored to tears. Im currently up to the second level and I've owned the game since Feb.
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SportsFan - 42 days 4 hours ago
30 - I usually dig HipHopGamer...
This time however, he is getting into the "What if the New Jersey Nets would have picked Jordan over Sam Bowie" argument....which not too many people could predict the outcome.

Bowie was a GREAT collegiate big man, that New jersey needed. They liked MJ and other player too, but went with need. People use hindsight to crack jokes, when PEOPLE KNEW JUST AS MUCH ABOUT MJ AS THEY DID ABOUT DWANE WADE, who may not be better than Labron, but his is deffinantly better then who the Detroit Pistons drafted! Anyway....Sony did not make any mistakes...as it is in their MO not to shell out a tone of millions to secure one game franchise. Sony can not afford to waste $300 on Rare, like MS did. (Not taking shots...just stating the facts...Rare is a bust!)
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Noah - 42 days 4 hours ago
31 - this is funny
God bless the internet, Now-a-days every dumbass blogger thinks their a game journalist.
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Chubear - 42 days 4 hours ago
33 - Nah,
Don't agree with anything said on this Vlog. Everyone has their opinion but nah, nothing here made me think Sony was wrong for not acquiring CoD as exclusive.

They already knew they had 3 FPSs coming down the pipe line and how much better KZ2 was than CoD4. Why would they spend money for yet another FPS back then? Nobody knows 100% how a game will be recieved and Had KZ2 released before CoD4, CoD4 would have looked weak as hell but it released first which is fortunate for them.

As it is, Sony has 3 FPS that'll collectively sell as much as CoD4 or halo3 in their life span and they have CoD on their platform anyway.. so that was the right decision. It's like the talk of Sony dropping the ball on GTA4. I mean we now see what GTA4 is about and it now makes sense why Sony didn't push for GTA4 cause they were looking to the future with a more current gen experience in The Agent and secured that instead but still move consoles with GTA4.

Nah, I don't see how ego was involved here at all. It was/is clean business, smart business.
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LiQuiFiedArt - 42 days 3 hours ago
34 - I disagree HHG
I think if both platforms released day and day with each other, things would be very different. Sony has also openly noted the trend of multiplatform games. This is why Sony has been building a set of first and 2nd party studios/relations, for years to come. Exclusives sell a console. Do you think a 3rd party exclusive where both install bases are equal is smart?

I think the ps3 fell into the "Worst Case Scenario". Xbox has stronger online features, while Nintendo had such a small price point. Most games were on both xbox and ps3.

Think about that. Its literally the worst case scenario for the ps3. I do think this generation was a full generational leap for sony and the hardware architecture, but i see sony reusing all this Cell/Bluray tech in the ps4. If they come back from where they were, this is a massive win for sony.
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MysticStrummer - 42 days 3 hours ago
35 - There's no reason to insult Call of Duty by equating it to Halo
The Call of Duty series has always been better than the Halo series in every way. While I agree that if Sony had exclusivity with the CoD series it would have been a huge advantage, I've got to say there's no way that the exclusive deal would have lasted this long given the well documented greed of Activision. As far as Sony having their own Halo, there are more than enough generic FPS in the Sony library. In my humble opinion, there are only two FPS this generation that are substantially different from all the others. Borderlands and Bioshock. The co-op mode of Resistance 2 had lots of promise but wasn't nearly extensive enough in my book. The rest, including Killzone 2, are the same damn game with slightly different graphics, sound, and story. Couldn't care less who feels me.
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kewlkat007 - 42 days 3 hours ago
36 - If KZ2 could do much dent to Halo
What makes you think an Exclusive COD would?

It would of been just another PS3 Exclusive that would have came and gone in a matter of a couple of months.

Like Wu-Tang, HALO is here forever Motha*...lol
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