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Craigslist flooded with modded Xbox 360 consoles after a Microsoft ban

After Microsoft did a mass ban of modded Xbox 360 consoles from the Xbox Live service, owners have flooded Craigslist in droves to get rid of their illegally modified consoles. Anyone in the market for a used 360 right now should adopt a "buyer beware" attitude.
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Published: 44 days 14 hours ago | News | Xbox 360
 
 

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iron_sheik - 44 days 15 hours ago
1 - This is bad for MS
most of these users will just switch to PS3 since PSN is free and ps3 is 299$ . when you have a bad experience with a company then you dont want to repurchase their products anymore
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jjohan35 - 44 days 14 hours ago
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I'd never buy 360 used. 3 year warranty does NOT transfer on used purchases. Given how bad the RROD was, you'd never know the true age of the console you're getting if it's used.
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cmacdonald - 44 days 14 hours ago
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No it's not bad for MS, the arcade unit on amazon is selling like crazy.
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REALgamer - 44 days 14 hours ago
1.3 - It would be stupid of them to blame Microsoft
Getting banned for pirating games is a 'bad experience' they brought on themselves.

It's like stealing a Honda and then declaring you're never getting a Honda again because the hot-wiring stopped working.
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NMC2007 - 44 days 13 hours ago
1.4 - @1
I love delusional Sony fans, they are just too funny.
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presto717 - 44 days 13 hours ago
1.5 - I see a lot of those modded 360's are being sold ALONG with the games
Does that mean those guys are totally getting off the xbox wagon?
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Ace Killa 08 - 44 days 13 hours ago
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I love it how fanboyism clouds the mind of immature brains, it never fails!
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Godmars290 - 44 days 13 hours ago
1.7 - @presto717
Considering that most of those games will likely be pirated is it really going to matter?

They're either going to uses those copies to pad the deal to some sucker or keep them so they play again once a new hack is figured out.
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iron_sheik - 44 days 12 hours ago
1.8 - arcades are selling?
where exactly are those aracades selling? on amazon just because u can get a 100$ gift card with an arcade purchase
However ps3 is still outselling x360 in america and that would stand atleast for some more months

x360 isnt attractive anymore when ps3 is 300$ . also like i said most of those million users will switch to ps3
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Isaac - 44 days 12 hours ago
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Xbox fanboys should re-think the install base of 360 every time they talk about "3rd place". Every time you think about 360's install base, remember to subtract 1 million banned consoles. That doesn't include the consoles that are dead and were never repaired.
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anh_duong - 44 days 12 hours ago
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there are SEVEN things a banned xbox owner can do:

1. keep his banned xbox and play offline xbox games for free but miss out on dlc and multiplayer and the live experience. outcome MS: Negative (no xbox live sub) Sony: Neutral.
2. sell his banned xbox and buy a new unhacked xbox and pay for games but get to enjoy live. outcome MS: Positive Sony: Neutral.
3. sell his banned xbox and buy a new unhacked xbox, then wait for a new undectable hack to come along then hack it. outcome MS: Positive Sony: Neutral.
4. keep his banned xbox and buy another xbox and play single player centric games for free and pay for multi-player games on the unmodded xbox. outcome MS: Positive Sony: Neutral.
5. sell his banned xbox and buy a ps3. outcome MS: Negative Sony: Postive.
6. keep his banned xbox and buy a ps3 and get to play single player xbox games for free and buy ps3 games for multi-player. this way you get to enjoy both xbox and ps3 exclusives whilst at the same time cut your gaming bill by half. outcome MS: Negative (no xbox live sub) Sony: Postive.
7. if you already own a ps3 then you could buy new multiplayer games on the ps3 and keep the banned xbox for single player games. outcome MS: Negative (no xbox live sub) Sony: Postive.

are there any other possibilities i have missed out??

personally i think the most likely options are 2, 3,4, 6 and 7. from what i can see sony benefits form option 6 and 7 whilst ms benefits from option 2, 3 and 4.

for me, if i got banned for modding my console i would most likely take option 6:

6. keep my banned xbox and buy a ps3 and get to play single player xbox games for free and buy ps3 games for multi-player. this way i get to enjoy both xbox and ps3 exclusives whilst at the same time cut my gaming bill by half.

bearing in mind most pirates are cheapskates and are are still loathed to pay for games so if they can get away with it then they will. why buy a ps3 you may ask?? well you already own a modded xbox so why not buy a ps3 and be a dual console owner instead of paying for two xbox consoles.

finally, we can see that whilst the xbox live banning will likely benefit ms there is also a significant likelihood it will also benefit sony.

if you had a banned xbox what would you do??
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Kigmal - 44 days 12 hours ago
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Banning pirates is bad for Microsoft? How? They need to eliminates these idiots. Let them "switch" to PS3.
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anh_duong - 44 days 11 hours ago
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although i don't condone piracy i think there is a lot of hypocrisy in people who call pirates idiot..

i am pretty sure 95% of the people who call pirates idiot are pirates themselves.

how many people here not downloaded a mp3, movie, tv show, ds/psp game or application without paying??

well if you have then you are a pirate too. just because you don't pirate xbox games doesn't mean you are whiter than white. piracy exists in many forms. clean up your own first house before you complain about others.
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The Meerkat - 44 days 11 hours ago
1.13 - Why would a pirate buy a PS3?
Can you pirate games on a PS3?

I would imagine most pirates would switch to PC.
£500 PC + pirate games for free.
£250 PS3 with £40 a game.
After only 7 games the pirate would be better off with a PC.
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anh_duong - 44 days 11 hours ago
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some people will still want to play online gaming on a console... a pc is useful but some people prefer consoles... i am not forcing anyone down a particular route - i am stating the options available to people who have their console banned. and as i mentioned earlier if you already own a xbox (which is banned) there is no harm in buying a ps3 if you want to own games for both consoles.

however, yes that is the one option i forgot.

8. keep the banned xbox and buy a $500 usd pc and play free multiplayer games on it. outcome: microsoft negative (no xbox live sub) sony: neutral. obviously assumption here is if you are a cheapskate who priate games then chances are that you would pirate the operating system else ms would benefit from a one off check for windows 7 oem.

btw you can get a 120gb slim for 199 pounds from many sainsbury stores now.
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sikbeta - 44 days 10 hours ago
1.15 - Poor NMC2007
He is still denying Piracy on xbox

Delusional?

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!
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callahan09 - 44 days 9 hours ago
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I dunno. There was an article in AM New York yesterday (in fact, it was the cover story!) about the 360 banning, and in the article, they did an interview with one of the local owners who was banned. He just said he's going to go out and buy another 360 as soon as he can. This whole situation will probably be a sales BOOST for Microsoft because all of these people are just going to go out and buy another one. It's just altogether sad, everything about this story and what's going on in this industry.
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Diamondwolf - 44 days 8 hours ago
1.17 - @callahan
That's what I think also, the only thing that will happen is another 360 purchase. People don't want to be forgotten by their friends they made online.

@PS3 switch comments - Seriously? I mean.....Seriously? Why does it matter? You guys profiting from the conversion? If you want to market that info out, this is the wrong place because the people who frequent on this site, ALREADY KNOW THAT!

Sad thing is, people will buy these systems and a new breed of pirating, just not going online. I guess the silver lining is that since these were already being pirated, the numbers will stay the same
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cereal_killa - 44 days 6 hours ago
1.18 - I'd never buy 360 used. 3 year warranty does NOT transfer on used purchases.
Sorry but your wrong I bought my 360 used and got RROD and they fixed it no problem.
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Elven6 - 44 days 4 hours ago
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Why is it bad for Microsoft if these guys never or rarely bought games to support them and developers in the first place? If anything it's good because it will cut down on piracy a bit.
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frostypants - 44 days 3 hours ago
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@1.8: The 360 Arcade deal @ Wal-mart and Amazon is/was pretty solid. You effectively get a 360 for $99. They try to rip you off on the hard drive, but a refurbished 20gb drive with headset and 3 months of Live can be found for $40. Bam...360 w/ hard drive for $140.

Yeah, still kind of a ripoff on the disk space (a new 20GB drive should be under $20, if they were even manufactured anymore), but if I was buying a 360 that's the route I'd take.

However, a similar $100 off deal for the PS3 would be epically more attractive.
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Poopface the 2nd - 44 days 3 hours ago
1.21 - that kinda makes sense but you forgot that these people had modded 360s to play free games
I dont think many of them will switch over to ps3 because they cant mod it and DL games for free.
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beardpapa - 43 days 23 hours ago
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Gee, since piraters are system banned, they can't even download demos, XBLA games, or use the window media center streaming. Heck Netflix is down for the count for that reason too.

I expect to see MS 360s quadruple in sales for December from this mass banning. Like Anh Duong said, piraters have no choice but to buy a new console to enjoy the new games in the long term unless they really just want to play their old games.
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Saaking - 43 days 22 hours ago
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NEVER buy a used 360.
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f789790 - 43 days 17 hours ago
1.24 - Well if they are selling the console with pirated games
They could be in huge trouble if MS intends to buy a few for court cases.
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lsujester - 43 days 16 hours ago
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I personally plan on keeping mine, whether it gets banned or not. Assuming it does soon, I probably won't care. I don't pay for Live anyway, so I could care less. I have my PS3 for that. Don't care about Achievements, either, so the corruption won't bother me. I'll probably just do what I've been doing all along, buy (yes, I do buy games even with a modded box) the ones for multiplayer for my PS3, and still DL the pirated games for the titles I never would have bought anyway. I basically just replaced my Gamefly account with pirated games, so no difference for me with the bans.

And kudos to the guy above who said most people are pirates. If you've copied a friends CD and give it back to him, downloaded an MP3, gave a digital copy of a movie to someone else, DL'd a TV show from a torrent, any copying of a licensed title..... then you're a pirate. You're no better than me, or anyone else who pirates games.
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Cajun Chicken - 44 days 15 hours ago
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It's kind of funny. Because I can really see where the funding for this giant banning scheme came from because MS really doesn't spend the money gained from XBL on anything really significant...most of those people must have been paying for XBL instead of buying games which they actually should of been paying for.

Irony!
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EnViAbLe27 - 44 days 14 hours ago
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Its funny the other day I was thinking this was going to happen, and low and behold it did. :P
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morkendo - 44 days 14 hours ago
4 - im not surprised
this is happening. either 360 user's will buy another 360 or jump on ps3 side. cant see them buying another 360 after all that and get banned again.
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lsujester - 43 days 16 hours ago
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Oh they will, they will. After the holidays, it will likely be a while before MS worries about bans again. If that is the case, a new Arcade system will only cost you 200 bucks. That's less than the price of four new games you'd have to buy.
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psycho360 - 44 days 14 hours ago
5 - Great news
For anyone who wants to shift from ps2 and not bothered with playing online can easily enter HD gaming at slightly price than ps2's.
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frostypants - 44 days 3 hours ago
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If you don't play online, the 360 has little to offer over the PS2 beyond better graphics. Frankly the PS2 is STILL King Sh** for single player gaming.

The bottom line is most of these dirtballs are not fessing up to the fact that their consoles are banned.
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KR1ST0F3R - 44 days 13 hours ago
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How many modded consoles have been banned and then replaced, or are going to be?

How many modded consoles have rrod-ed and could not be sent back to microsoft so were replaced?

Bet it accounts for quite e few of Microsoft's 'sales'

In effect the Modding of consoles is helping Microsoft stay in the lead
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Eddy Raja - 44 days 13 hours ago
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now I'm convinced, micro's ditching its current models for the 360+ thingy. They could have done banning long ago, but now that its been almost half a decade since the 360's here 1) the new 360 sku with the natal would be the new standard sku fow ms 2) they announce new system next year. I mean why now they decided to do this mass banning near the season where gaming matters the most?
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lsujester - 43 days 16 hours ago
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Because the big games are now out (ODST, MW2), and many people would buy a new system just to get to play those.
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badz149 - 44 days 13 hours ago
8 - LOL
pirates attacking the craiglist!
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Jamaicangmr - 44 days 13 hours ago
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Why would this tranfer to PS3 sales? Clearly these S.O.B's don't want to purchase games thats why they modded their Xbox360's. Now with the PS3 being Hackfree they would be screwed even before purchase.

Serves them right though. It's just sad when those that are most vocal about their love of the Xbox360 and all things Microsoft are the sameones with modded 360's. Fvcking hypocrites they are.
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mythamp - 44 days 6 hours ago
9.1 - Jamaicangmr said it right
"Is just sad when those that are most vocal about their love of the Xbox360 and all things Microsoft are the sameones with modded 360's. Fvcking hypocrites they are."

FACT.
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jleack - 44 days 13 hours ago
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Haha that's pretty funny. Karma!
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iron_sheik - 44 days 12 hours ago
10.1 - haha its funny no doubt
those x360s are just dead
so 200$ atleast and 50$ for LIVE and 50$ for chipping down the drain lol
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Ceekay - 44 days 12 hours ago
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Next up: Mass banning from Craigslist.
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tudors - 44 days 12 hours ago
12 - What method arethey using to ban the consoles?
e.g. are they banning just the console or the live account also? what records are they keeping, are they banning via the IP address or some other method? The reason I ask is because I want to know if the modded Xbox's can be set back to default, e.g. flash the firmware on the drive or whatever method they use to flash in the 1st place and then hopefully call MS stating that the console has been set back to default and then have it taken off the ban list.
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Elven6 - 44 days 4 hours ago
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They don't reveal it for obvious reasons but I assume the 360 parts must be involved.
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lsujester - 43 days 15 hours ago
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Yeah, they'll never let you do that. If they have your name, that box will be banned, no questions asked and no way to get out of it. As far as what they do.. they're likely sending a code down to the box to corrupt the component firmware/drivers, causing the IP address, the program handling game saves, etc, to become corrupted. The 360 isn't really anything different than a PC, so I guess a good parallel would be MS sending your Xbox a virus that really f*cks your sh1t up. It'll still work, but be a little gimped.
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jerethdagryphon - 44 days 5 hours ago
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it can be set back to default but i belive thee banning it via a hardware id elsewhere in the system

if it was mac address then the wireless adaptor could be used to cuirvumvent it ip is usually dynamic so it must be a os id code or sometihng its checking
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nickb - 44 days 5 hours ago
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Looks like i will be able to get a cheap modded 360 now
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oldsnayke - 44 days 4 hours ago
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I think I laughed harder than I should have.
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SportsFan - 44 days 3 hours ago
16 - yet another reason why i went with Sony PS3....
Haven't had heard of any pirating issues with the PS3....which is prob. one of the main reasons people try to say that Xbox 360 is so much better. (You can mod them.) Of course I like the Xbox 360, it's agreat platform! Just saying that MS has been loosing a ton from dishonest custoomers, while Sony's beter constructed systems is free from large ammounts of defects and mods. For the record...as I do, I only recomend buying games or DVD's off CL.
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djfullshred - 44 days 2 hours ago
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lol, and pirates try to claim they dont hurt anyone, because the big companies deserve to get ripped off. Well, they pretty much hurt all owners that want to sell their used gear, because you can't trust this stuff will work online. Resale value = worthless at this point.
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NexGen76 - 44 days 1 hour ago
18 - Cmon PS3 people
I'm a die hard PS3 guy but i don't see how this would equal more PS3 sales...These guys don't like buying games...lol
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