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Microsoft Disowns Manager For Suggesting A Mac OS Inspired Windows 7

Gizmodo: "Poor Microsoft Partner Group Manager Simon Aldous. His Microsoft bretheren is calling him uninformed and practically disowning him for the quotes he threw out earlier about Windows 7 basing its UI on the Mac OS.

A post on the Windows Blog entitled " How we really designed the look and feel of Windows 7" renounces Simon's quotes with a curt, yet harsh line:"

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Published: 57 days 13 hours ago | Article | PC

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z-hayden - 57 days 11 hours ago

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If you look at some of the features of osx(mac) and then look at some of the features of windows 7, there's no denying some resemblances. However, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, its just how tech goes. Companies borrow from each other all of the time, and to think your favorite company doesn't do so it ridic, whether its m$, sony, or apple.

@below...i was referring to more of the general theme here, not just what the rep said.

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Godmars290 - 57 days 11 hours ago

1.1 - You're missing the point.

If left alone this would have enforced the rep that MS can't come up with an original idea. That no matter how much they want to be portrayed as an industry leader they have to see what the other guy is doing before that do anything, which tends to be what the other guy is doing.

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drdistracto707 - 57 days 11 hours ago

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the truth hurts doesnt it MS?

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Shadow Flare - 57 days 9 hours ago

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Isn't that how 90% of microsoft's business works though? Imitate other successful products and then claim you created it and its the best thing since sliced bread

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AAACE5 - 57 days 9 hours ago

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I guess those Mac vs. PC commercials really got to them...lol! I don't care, an OS is an OS. As long as I can gert online it doesn't matter to me. All I really use a computer for is to waste time anyway.

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toaster - 57 days 8 hours ago

1.5 - I love my PC.

I run Windows 7 64bit. I got in the beta and have been using 7 since.. a few months ago. But I also love my mac. My PC is for pure gaming. Mac good for everything.

MS just doesn't want to face the facts that their interface is inferior.

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HolyOrangeCows - 57 days 7 hours ago

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http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Pfft, their other employees are in denial. At least this guy can tell the truth.

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Anorexorcist - 57 days 11 hours ago

2 - The basic message from this article is...

If you don't completely drink Microsoft's Kool-Aid and believe every damn thing they say, you will be punished for it!!!

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NMC2007 - 57 days 11 hours ago

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Sony Rep: Hey Kaz! We should create an Xbox 360 inspired interface in our next firmware update.

N4G Question Time: What do you think Kaz would say?

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Leio - 57 days 9 hours ago

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Kaz would say yeah let fuking do it and make it free so no one else need to pay for that crap

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zootang - 57 days 5 hours ago

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@leio

Classic

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Bloodshoteyz - 57 days 11 hours ago

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Sorry to say but aside from gaming ,my mac is superior to any windows pc on the market...and we all know that even that is changing, mac ppl are not fools and are making more efforts to break into the gaming industry next :D

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Kigmal - 57 days 11 hours ago

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"my mac is superior to any windows pc on the market"

No.

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GARBAGE LICKER - 57 days 11 hours ago

3.2 - yeah right

My family just got the new iMac with max specs, and it is not nearly as powerful as some of the other PCs we own. You cant even run SolidWorks or other engineering programs properly on it

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ElementX - 57 days 11 hours ago

3.3 - "mac ppl are not fools"

LOL, they sure fork over large amounts of cash for something a PC can do much cheaper

*EDIT* @ below:
True, they're not very upgradeable. Everything is proprietary and that means expensive (look at 360 HDDs/wireless for instance)

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RedSky - 57 days 11 hours ago

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Nope, besides games Macs are worse than PCs in compatible application support, are tremendously overpriced, and lack customisation and upgrade ability. Hell, OS X can't even playback blu-ray.

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commodore64 - 57 days 11 hours ago

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and yet, the mac will not run standard professional software such as this?
http://www.amibroker.com/
http://wl4.wealth-lab.com/c...

I know what you will say.... you can run windows on a mac, right?

But what would be the point of paying extra money to get a mac just to dual boot windows7 (more money) and be able to run the specialised software I need to do my work?

Seems so silly for a 'superior' machine, right?
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So ... uh...
you are advocating spending MORE money on a mac, get LESS hardware for the money, then pay additional money for a dual boot windows license, just so i can run a PC programme?

Why not just get a PC?
That's exactly what smart consumers are doing?

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Bloodshoteyz - 57 days 11 hours ago

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Dual boot is exactly right. And as far as what i do in design id much rather my version of cs4. so yeah to be able to operate both operating systems is nice and a mac at least the power mac g5 which i use is very upgradeable.

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Bloodshoteyz - 57 days 11 hours ago

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and yes we do have portfolio and trading tools such as
http://www.beesoft.net/
and
http://www.linnsoft.com/

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commodore64 - 57 days 7 hours ago

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You don't get it, huh?

you have no idea how all those programmes are different do you?
I have no use for that software you mention.

The software I want has a coding community and experience behind it.
It has evolved specifically for a certain purpose and is not available for mac, except as dual boot, which defeats the purpose of geting a mac.

Just go and play garage band.
I hear it's very user friendly.
Leave me alone with you mac marketing.

Fact is, Macs are overpriced, underfeatured and incompatible.
If you're honest, you'd agree.

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kraze07 - 57 days 7 hours ago

3.9 - "my mac is superior to any windows pc on the market"

The most FAIL I've seen today.

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commodore64 - 57 days 4 hours ago

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cripes....

*checks story temp*
*checks unanimous disagrees*
*checks non-correlating uniformity of replies by other users*

... looks like somebody's multiple accounts are hard at work, huh? ... lol

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verb3k - 57 days 11 hours ago

4 - ?

www.ubuntu.com

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dchalfont - 57 days 10 hours ago

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linux is worse than both for gaming and video and photo editing, it's a niche thing for people too poor to buy windows or mac, or for servers, have fun with that

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madpuppy - 57 days 8 hours ago

4.2 - @dchalfont, there is plenty of value in using Linux...

matter of fact, Linux isn't just for "servers" everything from Cable set top boxes Tivo, roku player, cell phones, Asus/WD/Popcorn hour media players.
matter of fact, there is probably something that you use every day that uses Linux.

And it makes for a darn good Desktop OS. I have been using it for 10 years without issue. never had a problem with photo and video editing.

As for gaming I have to agree, but, my computer is not a toy, If I want to play a game I will use one of my PS3's.

@verb3k, I was looking over your comments, man! you are a little too militant when it comes to Linux. to each his own, man. As long as the decision is an informed one and not some "I read some forum posts that Linux sucks" lame @ss opinion.

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Si-Pie - 57 days 8 hours ago

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Well it was Steve Jobs who quoted Picasso saying "Good artists copy great artists steal"

@madpuppy yep totally agree haha. After the quote he made from Picasso he said that Apple have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.

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madpuppy - 57 days 8 hours ago

5.1 - You do realize that Steve Jobs is kind of a D0uche?

He makes Steve Ballmer look like a nice guy.

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Bodyboarder_VGamer - 57 days 8 hours ago

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I downloaded Windows7 x86 ultimate (retail version supposedly) from mininova but I'm not sure if I should install it because I do not know how it'll work. On the comment section everybody was saying that it works perfectly but I do not trust them. Most of them are probably a bunch of morons that don't even know what are they talking about anyway considering that this is the internet. I have the newest activator and serial but what if it doesn't work? Then I'll need to install Vista again and waste even more time...

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josh14399 - 57 days 8 hours ago

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why can't msoft just admit they copied features from mac and linux because copying isn't a bad thing as long as you at least thank the company you got ideas from (when i mean copy i don't make exaxct copies im just talking about taskbar and even the instant search that was in vista)

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taliesin - 57 days 8 hours ago

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@dchalfont

i have used linux on my laptops for years (ubuntu), its free easy to use, stable and alot more secure than windows....it has absolutely nothing to do with my financial situation, but its interesting to note you have labelled me as a pauper, simply because of my choice of OS??

Having just seen Windows 7 running side by side with a MAC, i have to say at least from the taskbar point of view, you cant deny MS have mirrored the style/format. Then again plagerism is supposed to be the greatest form of flattery?

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mixelmagic - 57 days 6 hours ago

9 - Not a bad thing..

If anything it shows how beneficial competition and Apple's small but particular market are to the industry as a whole..

I love Win7, I love osX.. I also enjoy Ubuntu for what it is..

I partly love Win7 so much because of how so much of osX UI sensibility has crept in during both during vista and 7, making it a lot more comfortable to people who prefer, and use osX most of the time.

Also, im totally in disagreement with the "Macs are overpriced and incompatible" folk, they're very compatible *with Mac software*. We have a lot of exclusive and/or superior stuff too. Its just what you want and need. There isn't a right machine for everyone, and different people find value in different places. :)

There's enough space in the market for 3+ major operating systems, just like there's always been, and despite popularity of any of them, each will have advantages over the others. Some of those will be deal breakers for some people.

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bjornbear - 57 days 5 hours ago

10 - LOL

And their dignity got disowned with him =P god MS are like the fat bully that no one likes but everyone bares with cuz he's rich...

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xb0x_trashie - 57 days 11 hours ago

1 - m$: lie, cheat, steal,

they stand by that

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Mr Face Creamer - 57 days 7 hours ago

1.1 - Are you sure?

Because I'm pretty sure someone said that about your mom earlier.

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Dirk Benedict - 57 days 7 hours ago

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They also stand by the ms brand lubricant for bot colons. They like to grease up the marmite highway right before the repeated money rape from the accessory isle to the checkout stand.

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Mr Face Creamer - 57 days 6 hours ago

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Right on Benedict, but let's be honest, they made that for the PS dildo because they knew Phony would have priced 600$ for the lubricant alone.

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