Natal launch details leak from secret Microsoft tour

vega75 - 43 days 11 hours ago

like a fake yugioh game (Eye of Judgement) and a few other inspired dev's to support the eyetoy. sony has a habit of not fully supporting their peripheral. remember the ps tap where you could play 4 players on one game. how many games where made for that.

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gamingisnotacrime - 43 days 11 hours ago

be playing GT 5, GoW 3, Heavy Rain, Great games that are releasing now but im not getting due to crowded season like Assasins Creed 2, Borderlands, etc.

I think its great for those that like motion games to have options like Natal, Wii, PS3 motion controller, etc, but to think a motion console will overtake the stunning AAA library of games for core gamers coming out next year is a little off.

It will be interesting to see how Natal is received, definetely 2020 is shaping up to be a defining year for the Video game industry as we know it, i just hope the core gamers are still served when all this motion frenzy arrives.

PSN: NoGodsOnlyMan

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Saaking - 43 days 3 hours ago

No, GOWIII, Heavy Rain, TLG, Agent, GT5, and MAG will own 2010.

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Ceekay - 43 days 2 hours ago

Maybe it will own, I will not own it.

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SaberEdge - 43 days 2 hours ago

No, what will own in 2010 will be being a gamer that plays all the good games that come out on either console. I will be very happy in 2010 playing games like Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, God of War 3, Heavy Rain, Splinter Cell Conviction, The Last Guardian, and Halo Reach. Loser fanboys are the ones that lose out.

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wpggamer - 42 days 18 hours ago

If ms is copying sony with natal, why is sony researching their own full body motion controller. They should just be able to use the eye toy right?

http://www.newscientist.com...

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THE MAX SPEED 21 - 43 days 15 hours ago

"The device should cost under £50 when sold solo. One publishing source says Microsoft is “trying to get as close as possible to ‘impulse buy’”. Another even says the camera could even retail for just £30."

edit: Microsoft is Hoping for a Big Impact with Natal's release so they'll be doing everything possible to move the most units for Christmas 2010. That's exactly what they will be doing with a £30-£50 price tag for the Camera device and 14 games available at launch.

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IronFistChinMi - 43 days 15 hours ago

Did you read the article?

You say it won't be that cheap given the price of the wireless adapters and HDD, but you have to consider that they'll make money back from software sold, which doesn't apply to those products you mentioned.

Basically, they'll be looking to get as many Natal units in peoples homes as possible and at this rumoured price it would be easier.

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blackpanther25 - 43 days 15 hours ago

the article says they are trying to go for a impulse by....which means it will be at a price point that you won't have to consider buying....you will just buy...

If it has the right games for it I will buy it. I sold my wii so im not really into the whole motion thing. If halo reach has motion parts then damn i have no choice

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ReBurn - 43 days 12 hours ago

If Natal can support 4 players at once then a wireless adapter won't be necessary. This technology is going to be targeted at friends and family who will be playing in the same room, so why will there be a need for a Wifi adapter and an Live Gold subscription? That drops $150 off of the cost comparison list that many people like to publish with their posts. The on-board memory in the Arcade unit is more than adequate for game saves, so the $100 for an HDD is not necessary.

If MS does it right this could be a good push into the casual gaming market, a market that doesn't care as much about internet connectivity and online play. The Wii has been wildly successful without a hard drive. It offers extremely limited online play. And it isn't impossible to get a 360 online without a WiFi adapter. There is ethernet built in.

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Alcon Caper - 43 days 11 hours ago

To price an optional peripheral less then a "required" peripheral (we all know wireless isn't "required" but most people will get it, regardless--the same with the HDDs).

The profits from the required peripherals can supplement the ones that they're pushing, ie Natal.

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commodore64 - 43 days 14 hours ago

Home

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dchalfont - 43 days 14 hours ago

(off topic)

I noticed those i7-920's went up by over $100, as well as the 940's being phased out...who would have thought

EDIT: so very childish. $ 469 for a 920 now...and they are in stock everywhere, the end of november is so very close my retarded only child friend

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commodore64 - 43 days 14 hours ago

dchal
I noticed the i7 920 dropped $20 in price on msy since you last messaged. I also notice the 920 is NOT being phased out, contradicting what you said.

Remember How I said to wait to message me about this until the end of November so that we can accurately see the price drop back to <$350 after more stock arrives?
Why don't you do as you're told?

And stay on topic, friend.
Your comment belongs in a PM, not in this thread.
Reported as off-topic.

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vhero - 43 days 14 hours ago

@OmarJA - most sensible thing said on here. Simple and to the point. It will do exactly the same as HD-DVD. Useless waste of technology/time/money for MS.

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Soda Popinsky - 43 days 12 hours ago

"Rumble is a last gen feature".

Dropping the space boomerang to end up with a more than 10 year old controller design.

Complete removal of backwards compability.

Yeah, those guys are really in touch with the gaming community. lol!

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blackpanther25 - 43 days 15 hours ago

sony it is the PlayStation eye and the wand....you have to have both for it to work. Since the eye has been out for a while they could sell them together for a total price of $60 as well. This is just an assumption anyway

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zenosaga04 - 43 days 15 hours ago

How is Microsoft supposed to own 2010 when Natal comes out in November? Last time I checked there were 12 months in a year right?

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Feral Gamer - 43 days 15 hours ago

I never played Eye of Judgement. What's the point in playing a card game on a console anyway?

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The Great Melon - 43 days 15 hours ago

I believe Sony have kept that information more under wraps. I remember reading somewhere that they have been showing it to their internal studios so they can release it with software. Whether this means motion control upgrades for current games or new motion games I don't know. However it would be very stupid of a company to release a half-a55ed motion system with no games in this market that is now swinging and flailing its way into the mainstream.

Both Microsoft and Sony will have support for their products, or else they will never be accepted by the public. This reminds me of wiimotion plus. I have 10+ games and ones I am looking forward to, but not one of them uses the addon.

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zenosaga04 - 43 days 14 hours ago

Wait...

so I'm confused, why all the disagrees? are there more than 12 months in a year?

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green - 43 days 14 hours ago

AT TGS this year, Sony announced the spring 2010 launch line up for the wand.
Ape Escape,
Echochrome 2,
Eccentric Slider,
Sing and Draw,
Champions of Time,
Motion Party,
The Shoot, and Tower.

"upgraded via software update to take advantage of the Motion Control device are existing PlayStation 3 games including"
PAIN,
Flower,
Hustle Kings,
High Velocity Bowling, and EyePet
http://www.gamasutra.com/ph...

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The Great Melon - 43 days 14 hours ago

@green

I forgot about that stuff. Everything in that list save for LittleBigPlanet are smaller psn games.

What I am hoping they will do the wand is make games like Uncharted, infamous, etc. compatible OR make games of this caliber in the future compatible with the wand. If they were to do that people like myself would be far more tempted to go and buy the product. They proved that they are at least considering that option considering that they did the Resident Evil 5 demo with the controls.

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Eamon - 43 days 14 hours ago

@zenosaga04
LOOOL, you made me laugh there. Bubbles for you mister!

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zenosaga04 - 43 days 14 hours ago

Hahaha I aim to please Eamon. Some people are way too serious on this site

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Why o why - 43 days 14 hours ago

good sport....i was thinking the same thing. I guess there must be more than 12 months in illogical world

@ green, good pull, i didnt know that

@ green again

*raises glass*

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blackpanther25 - 43 days 14 hours ago

i didn't even know sony is going to try and push out that much.

@MLG i agree man sony didn't advertise the eye and Microsoft is not trying to make that mistake. Microsoft is really going hard with the natal.

I think i made my decision....i'm going to buy one

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green - 43 days 14 hours ago

I think since it's launching spring next year, Sony studios will be pressed for time to develop Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 like games for the wand.SOny will most likely release the casual stuff listed above then roll out backwards compatibility for previous titles and then towards the end of next year, roll out hardcore games that fully take advantage of the wand.

I know that most people are skeptical about motion controls but i am really excited to see what Sony and Microsoft can pull off with their offerings.

@ Why o Why: raises glasses as well.

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Why o why - 43 days 14 hours ago

counting chickens by any chance....Bit premature to be ejaculating over your chums so lets just wait and see.

To the 360 fans: Good luck, i hope natal AND sony's MC will help put the hardcore back into motion control gaming better than the eyetoy did.

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Foxgod - 43 days 14 hours ago

Yes yes, i get it, you are a pessimist.
Next year you will be posting the following:

I CANT BELIEVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE BUYING NATAL, whats wrong with them.

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Apocalypse Shadow - 43 days 13 hours ago

you're an optimist for games you haven't seen and a price you can't confirm.

SHOULD cost and COULD cost don't equal **WILL** cost.but it's nice being optimistic right?

a year is a long time to wait. and it was obvious microsoft couldn't jump to next gen because of the cost to launch a new system, game development cost and economic climate.

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mastiffchild - 43 days 13 hours ago

@dchalfont-IDK what's up with all the console bashing dude. Thing is there's casual games galore on 360,PS3,PS2 and Wii. Guess what? There is on the PC too! My kids are always playing some nonsense on mine, trust me. So why doe it matter what's available on any platform as long as there are great games for YOU?

I play great PC games, great Sony exclusives and great multis on PS3 and great exclusives on 360. I even play some GREAT Wii games when they're about. Christ I'm sick of the divisive nature of gamers atm. This is axactly why IW and acti shafted us so hard and got away with it.

BTW, dchal-not just you on that score I just thought you'd be one of those more against the current climate of all round hate. Wouldn';t we ALL be better off just as gamers?

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dchalfont - 43 days 13 hours ago

There's no console hate. I just think motion control is ridiculous. I have owned every single nintendo console and handheld since the beginning as well as a ps2 an x-box and an atari ( and been a pc gamer all the while), but motion control has ruined gaming for me. I sold my wii which was quite upsetting for me, i was looking forward to it so much. I would never buy an x-box 360 after owning the first and experiencing problems, as well as obvious 360 issues. Ps3 didn't do it for me because besides the first few models they didn't offer BC, if it did i would buy one in an instant, all my reasons are very valid, but i never said i hate any of the console's. I just think motion control is a bad direction to be taking games. For kids it's great, for me, not so much.

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darkride66 - 43 days 3 hours ago

Seriously, why on earth would the average casual, who is the target audience for Natal, pick up a Xbox 360 and Natal when they can just pick up a Wii for $200?

Also, I'm with dchalfont. I've been a Nintendo supporter for years and owned every Nintendo system from the Super NES up and the Wii was a huge disappointment for me because I hated the motion control. And I felt guilty for it. I tried to force myself to play the damn thing for a year before I sold it but just couldn't get into it when I had the 360 and PS3 to choose over the Wii. Casuals seem to love it, and I think it's great that Nintendo is doing so well, it just wasn't for me.

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Why o why - 43 days 13 hours ago

and i totally agree. Lets see it working first before ejaculatin like foxgod.

@ foxgod. Take some of your own advice foxy and apply that 'optimism' in a ps3/sony article you silly hypocrite, nobody's fooled

@ apocalypse, i also hear where your coming from but at least kewls in a 360 article calming his own people down...Not many risk the wrath of their own. If his comments are more balanced then kudos is due.

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Apocalypse Shadow - 43 days 13 hours ago

and everything sony related. you're comment about the eye speaks volumes.

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Foxgod - 43 days 13 hours ago

Thats just pessimist talking.

Optimism makes a better world, pessimist are just a bunch of whiny bitter know all good for nothing ignorant flame starters.

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Apocalypse Shadow - 43 days 13 hours ago

you're an optimist about natal and everything else in the world....

but a pessimist in ps3 articles?

hmmmm.........

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wingman32x - 43 days 9 hours ago

features are nothing unless they are utilized properly. Look at the potential the Wii had, it could have changed the industry forever but instead became shovelware city. I never said Natal doesn't have potential, I'm just wary of it due to what happened to the wii.

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Lou-Cipher - 43 days 7 hours ago

What can Natal do that the PS eye cant?

The answer is NOTHING.

I can scan items using PS Eye
I can play games using only my body using PS Eye(with better accuracy)
I can use voice commands using PS Eye

PS Eye is already available, and is in thousands of households already.

The PS Eye/Wands will have over 50+ games by the time Natal launches with its meager 14 games.

PS Eye/Wand can play not only every Natal game, but can also play every Wii game if ported. can Microsoft port wii games over to Natal without a motion controller? Again, the answer is NO.

Think about it people, Natal doesn't have one single advantage over Sony;s motion tech, so why do you you clowns cling to such a awful product(Natal) to bring the 360 back from the dead?

Microsoft is going to advertise the he11 out of Natal, and people are going to get it home and realize it is just another over hyped product the they have been tricked into buying. (just like Halo ODST)

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hatchimatchi - 42 days 16 hours ago

Demon's Souls is a great game and it exceeded the expectations of atlus.

It gained a reputation for being brutally hard, having a great atmosphere and game mechanics. The game had almost no advertising and gamers showed sony and atlus that there is a market for games that break the mold.

Demon's Souls is a success through and though.

Stop trolling

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FailureRate54 - 43 days 5 hours ago

Yeah we use it with our girlfirends, unlike you that use it for your OWN g@y sexual pleasure.

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CliffyB - 42 days 22 hours ago

You use a dildo with your girlfriend!? Do you have a size problem or a function problem?

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