Nintendo is a bigger risk taker than Microsoft or Sony

Product - 45 days 16 hours ago

@ above

Nintendo doesn't have a freebie marketing (razor blade) business strategy where you lose money on consoles and make it up on software. Nintendo makes profit from the get go. Nintendo still would not have "went under" even if the Wii hadn't struck the chord it has with the non-customer.

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skv007 - 45 days 12 hours ago

@1.1 agreed.
Nintendo has being playing it 'safe' all the way.
With farming old IPs with their popularity.
Though the console was 'innovative', hence the risk.. there were no really financial risks involved.

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EvilTwin - 44 days 13 hours ago

I agree with Product. Nintendo wasn't in danger of going all Sega on us. They have a firm base of titles that a certain number of people buy their consoles for. They could've done exactly what Sony and Microsoft did, ended up in third place again, and still would've survived.

What I find funny are the people who choose to get pissed now at Nintendo for stuff that they've always done.
There are always big delays in Zelda games (and a LoZ release is always a rare occurrence by industry standards).
Mario is always in a bunch of mascot games.
Nintendo consoles have always had better first-party games than third-party ones.

But now since Nintendo is on top of the "console wars," they get the most hate. It comes with the territory, I guess. Sony got a lot of crap last gen that they didn't deserve, either.

Anyway...was the Wii a risk? Sure. But I don't think it was as big a risk as others make it out to be. If motion controls didn't catch on, they just would've gone back to the drawing board.

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raztad - 44 days 13 hours ago

How to put an old gamecube tech with a new controller in a single package is called "Risk"? come on the Wii cant even output 720p. It's being sold for a profit since day one and "Ninty" has made billions. I bet you to make games for the Wii is extremely cheap and even so, a Wii game cost around $50. Not to mention the lack of first party quality titles. Absolute zero risk.

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leeger - 44 days 13 hours ago

Sony priced the PS3 a lot lower than its manufacturing cost, in return they lost billions, while on the other hand Nintendo came up with a last gen hardware with gimicky controls then priced it higher than its manufacturing cost, so yes Nintendo is a great risk taker /sarcasm.
I think Nintendo has a good business strategy but definitely not a bigger risk taker than MS or Sony.

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zeeshan - 44 days 13 hours ago

I am sorry what? Wasn't it Nintendo that wasn't ready accept CD has the new format and wanted to stick with the catridges back in N64 days? Besides of the motion tech, what has Nintendo done to innovate stuff? No, sorry, not going to fall for this. Nintendo is not a risk taker and by all means, they should start taking risks now. They can learn a thing or two from Sony. First CD, then DVD, now BluRay. Sony takes risks. A bunch of new IPs combined with the old ones, they have a huge library. The first thing that you Nintendo reminds you of is Mario or Pokimon and that's it!

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sidar - 44 days 9 hours ago

@Evil,
Even though they could have survived, their reputation would go to hell.
Even though " hardcore " gamers claim they dont like Nintendo anymore, everyone would just say they failed hard, even the Nintendo fans.

" They can learn a thing or two from Sony. First CD, then DVD, now BluRay. Sony takes risks. "

Thats not a risk, its an instant success, even if it wouldn't sell on the console it would still sell with standalone players.

On top of that to developers Discs are relatively cheap to them.

Sony has been doing it for 3 generations now, how is that a risk?
They know what they are doing.

If i recall correctly the reason Nintendo didnt go with CD's was due the whole mess between them and Sony( aand Phillips..)...and i think they didnt want loading times.

(Btw going over budget is not a risk, its just stupid, just so you know XD)

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scissor_runner - 44 days 7 hours ago

Lol krazy Ken got fire for the risks and failure that you now call the ps3 then a well respected buisness book was wrote about how not to be Sony.

Motion controls where a risk because no one backed them eve factor 5 left them. That just proves you should not listen to fanboys.

While g4and other people went hd happy nintendo catered to the new comers and people that left gaming. Notoriouly the hardest to sell games to or gimmicks. Then they constantly go against what the hd crowd wants lol. They may also be the only company with a new console coming out.

It is a lot riskier to not ride the gfx whore train and give into the fps zombie gamer syndrome.

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sikbeta - 44 days 7 hours ago

Nintendo only can lose consumers, but if we talk about the console as a commercial product, no way, they make money with every console sold and make more profit with First Party software, just take a look at these:

·Super Smash Bros. Melee (7.09 million)
·Super Mario Sunshine (5.5 million)
·Mario Kart: Double Dash‼
·The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
·Luigi's Mansion
·Animal Crossing
·Mario Party 4
·Metroid Prime
·Mario Party 7
·Pokémon Colosseum

SSB Melee is the best seller game on GC, even the RE exclusives (REø- REmake - RE4 timed) couldn't sell as much as the first party games, N fanbase always expect those franchises but gamers expect more than that, that's why the only thing N lose always are consumers

You will see my point when the N console comes out and the "oh Revolutionary motion Control" Crap it'll be already established as Standard (sadly)

HA! this article comes from wii4gamerz.tk lol

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Arius Dion - 44 days 7 hours ago

So true, my man. So true.

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SaberEdge - 44 days 5 hours ago

I don't agree. I will always respect Nintendo because they were a big part of my childhood, but I think it is pretty obvious that Nintendo takes the fewest risks of the three console manufacturers. They stick close to their few core franchises (Mario, Zelda, Metroid), the don't really invest in much new IP, their consoles have very conservative specs and design, they were the last to get on the online bandwagon, etc, etc.

Microsoft came into this industry when there were two strongly established players...that was risky. Creating a unified online gaming service for consoles had never been done before and certainly carried with it some risk. New IPs like Gears of War, Crackdown, Alan Wake and Fable also shows more risk taking that Nintendo has done with their games. Powerful, but expensive hardware that they originally have to take a loss on, with the plan that they will eventually become profitable through game sales and reduced production costs on the hardware side is also risky.

Sony, too, takes a lot of risks. New IPs; new disc formats; feature-rich, but expensive hardware; Home; Etc. Sony has taken some of the biggest risks over the years.

I think that Sony and Microsoft have taken the most risks to push gaming forward. On the other hand, back in the 80s Nintendo brought gaming back from the grave and for that I will always have respect for Nintendo.

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scissor_runner - 44 days 5 hours ago

Man do I hope ms and Sony listen their fans and do every thing they say next gen. I really do because experienced gamers have been here before. Yeah the xbox is going to be like the dreamcast next gen. Only ms money will keep the zombie green machine running and more poeple are pissed off by the hyped hd games than any thing else.

Hey but you guys are not using logic you want nintendo to fail simply because they STILL make games that kids like also. You see most of you don't hate nintendo you just don't want to relive your youth or loose your respect. Well just know you gain nothing online and it makes things worst to see you guys act so lame when it is not nintendo that holds you back. People will respect you reguardless of what you play you guys do realize this right.

Man imagine if all those adults came online just to dump on your hd consoles? Hey but what adult would do that? Only imature people do that.

I'll enjoy what I enjoy and these hardcore will eventually leave gaming once it is not cool. Which is the deffinition of a fad. I mean do you notice how ms petrock is better than sony's? Yet they will both stall the same way the xbox currently is because they both lack traditional console games.

At this point it would be better to have a platformfor all 3rd parties with out a 1st party one console yet that would be a pc. Isn't that ms main goal?

Lol pc are at the door and they want their adult gamers back.

Also you guys don't hate nintendo you hate sharing with kids lol.

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DaTruth - 44 days 13 hours ago

Luckily they have FAAANNNBOOOY!!! to save the day. FAAANNNBOOOY!!! will defend sending a console in five times for repair! FAAANNNBOOOY!!! stands up for truth of knowing it will break after the 3year warranty, and they will have to repurchase(no option for repair, since it will just break again in 3 mos).

Not only that, but FAAANNNBOOOY!!! will risk everything recommending shoddy merchandise to their friends and loved ones! WTF is that!

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Why o why - 44 days 12 hours ago

lol

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gumgum99 - 44 days 10 hours ago

lol, indeed. That caps lock made your post funnier. ^_^

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kwyjibo - 44 days 9 hours ago

Who in the right mind is going to buy a rip-off console with no games at launch?

That's right - FAAANNNBOOOY!!!

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sikbeta - 44 days 7 hours ago

You make it sound really funny, the worst part is that all you say is TRUTH lol

FAAANNNBOOOY!!! < logic XD

kwyjibo a REAL example of FAAANNNBOOOY!!! hahahaha!!!!!!

Reply to me If you don't got RROD - DRE - E74 - Overheat HDMI

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Why o why - 44 days 11 hours ago

of whining.

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Tito08 - 44 days 11 hours ago

One thing, before Sony, DVds weren't that popular, in Japan, ppl heard about the PS2, but watching dvd movies was something absolutely new to them, and it was a real selling point for Sony, and the DVD format was also used for big budget games.... Controllers were pressure sensitive. And u have to thank Sony because the eyetoy is also based on motion sensing if u didn't know... If that was a technology Sony copied, then nintendo copied touch screen from cellphone companies, and analog sticks from arcades and Atari, Sony may have copied it, but made it better by having 2 analog sticks and rumble technology built in only one controller, nintendo only had the rumble separated!!!!

Microsoft first attempt for online gaming on consoles started with Sega Net for dreamcast, and now it is better known as Xbox Live for both xbox and 360, even that they screwed up with the hardware, at least they make good software.... Sega risked more than nintendo, even that Sega went bankrupt.... Only thing that's saving Nintendo mostly is Mario, then they bring their other good franchises, most of nintendo games are low budget like wiisports but they're money printers, Without Miyamoto, Nintendo is lost!!!! I agree Nintendo brought the market back after Atari, but Sony and Microsoft made the Market more extreme and popular, at the level of Hollywood film companies!!!!

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Seferoth75 - 44 days 10 hours ago

Why oh Why, That's 3 paragraphs of truth and obviously you are just upset and crying because you cant prove ANY of it wrong.

Tito08, Dude, systems had motion controls all the way backto 2600. Eyetoy proves nothing. Why is Sony copying the basic design of the Wii remote if the EyeToy is it? Because it isnt and obviously you do not know what you are tlaking about. Also Analog sticks came about around the time of the N64, the ones used by arcade games are not analog.

Take 10 minutes to go learn what you are talking about then come back and see how wrong you are.

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Why o why - 44 days 10 hours ago

remember those .....lol

the games that fanboys fight and hope for, the games that made adult gaming kool. You thank them for nothing but everybody knows your acting foolish and ignorant so why would i waste my time proving you wrong huh....you're doing that all by yourself. You sound too bitter to reason with like a dreamcast die hard......guess it still hurts

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sidar - 44 days 9 hours ago

" the games that made adult gaming kool. "

From what spectrum did you take adult from?
You cant use it here ;).

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Why o why - 44 days 8 hours ago

the playstation brand helped kill that notion...maybe you should take issue with his comments which would have you believe sony have done jack sh!t for gaming from an innovation stance;)

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scissor_runner - 44 days 7 hours ago

Lol at fanboys. Adult gaming as you call it still is not cool actualy it has made even the gamers who are hardcore enough not to care what others think respect these gamers less. You know the ones should be playing pcs rather than consoles. I have never meet a girl or relative that thought hd gaming was for adults.

The only console accepted by adults right now is the wii. If my gamer friends come over the vc console along with Sam show down collect demon blade and nmh etc has no problem entertaining them. Yet when others or women come over they have no problem with wii fit or resort.

Yet if some one has to watch you struggle threw an HD game they mostly don't even want to play it next. I don't even see people trying out hd games in public any more it really is sad.

Yet nothing is lamer than the fanboys online right now. They can't even admit they don't like consoles. I'm sorry all of my friends love the vc and what the wii does and it is only the you get fanboys that need gaming to be justified and protected by them.

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Tito08 - 44 days 7 hours ago

Look at it, if Atari came with motion sensing, so that means Nintendo copied from them, and don't say that Eyetoy proved nothing cause it really did.... See project Natal, Even Hideo Kojima got excited about it... Nintendo is a great company, but they don't innovate on everything, so please get ur facts straight.... Natal is motion sensing, so that means Eyetoy is also motion sensing.... They make the same games, low budget while the others make new franchises, third party games are making new franchises, high budget, not like nintendo where 95% of third party games are basically wack and doesn't sell, only nintendo titles 1rst party tittles sells....

With Sony and Microsoft, both parties sells, Nintendo doesn't support 3rd parties as much as Sony and Microsoft does, and yeah, u're right about the analogs, but is it N64 controller dual-analog and rumble like the dualshock, I don't think so....

If Motion sensing came from Atari 2600, how come Nintendo brings that idea back 20 years later????

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sidar - 44 days 6 hours ago

O right, just from those 2 lines i was saying Sony hasn't done anything?

O right. Missing sarcasm much?

Btw, those people you mention were all "casual" gamers who started jerking off on GT and sports games.
The Geek gamer was first made fun off, and then the douches pretended they were cool. because they were playing the GAmzorsz

Yeah Sony has done its part, but that what you talk about is not as pretty as you make it out to be.

While gaming has become more mainstream, Gaming is generally still not considered something for adults. No matter how much you freeroam in GTA.

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kingboy - 44 days 9 hours ago

Amen

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Soda Popinsky - 44 days 8 hours ago

Nintendo made motion sensing popular with the Wii. Microsoft made online gaming popular with Xbox Live.

What exactly did Sony do? You say MS cash in while all Sony do is try to push new formats onto consumers. UMD, BluRay, MiniDisc, Atrac, Betamax etc.

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scissor_runner - 44 days 7 hours ago

Soda you are on the money there. With out an new optical format that peopl want Sony is dead in the water. On top of that they pushed the half backed cell on to programmers hoping this would support lame blu rays and keep devs from porting to the xbox. Lol new comers forget we wanted cd player before ps 1 we wanted DVD player before ps2 but no one needed blu Ray and we still don't. And if we do need we are adult enough to buy a real player.

I don't know many people that though the ps3 was worth it's price then or now simply because it is not wanted including their games. Yet their fans still love these games. I'm sorry Sony is an ok addition to gaming yet they will never be the reason I play video games simply because they don't understand what real gamers want. This is why ms a new comer can steal their thunder because they never really had any thing to keep them on top.

Once ms learns from nintendo only then will gaming get better becuase Sony is only here to milk the hardcore. They have made this very obvious.

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Captain Planet - 44 days 5 hours ago

I bet you'd probably pop a chubby if Sony went under, Scissor Runner. :/ Seriously, you come off as a pissed off Nintendo fanboy who is beating off to the fact Nintendo finally has come first in two generations.

If your idea of 'MS taking ideas from Nintendo" is Avatar Sports Resort....no thanks. I really don't want that.

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Why o why - 44 days 3 hours ago

launch about 50 titles and by titles i mean Games, u know the stuff that makes gamers game. Sonny brought gaming to the mainstream......actually sorry folks sony have brought nothing to the table .....extreme sarcasm

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badz149 - 43 days 22 hours ago

what are you? blind? yes, Ninty revived gaming with the NES but when was gaming became mainstream? PS1! dude, who made the PS1? Sony! I know you guys hate Sony so much but the momentum brought by the PS1 and PS2 to bring gaming as a mainstream media is something that nobody can deny! be blind and stupid all you want but 100+ mil PS1 sold and 140+ mil PS2 sold are something you can't put down under a carpet like they're nothing to the gaming community in general!

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badz149 - 43 days 22 hours ago

what is so risky about making the same proven games over and over for every generation? this gen, plus Wii fit and wii sport, that's about it!

what's nintendo's biggest game for this year? right...NEW SUPER MARIO BROS! the same game we've played many years back but this time with 3 more players! sooo risky! /sarcasm

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scissor_runner - 44 days 4 hours ago

@captainplanet

I don't want Sony to go under yet I would like to see them support traditonalgaming gaming simply because their fan base just like degas will not be coming back to console gaming if Sony failed.

Like most Sony fanboys you do not see how or why Sony made them selves vulnarable. If all Sony has is gow kz2 and uncharted then you must realize mw2 is the only game that is even able to claim to compete with a nintendo game where it counts which is sales. We all don't like epic yet they crushed all of sony's games. I don't care what the ps3 support and hate all other groups are not helping. You guys sound like gc fans yet you have no Mario and all of your halo s areborrowed from 3rd parties.

I don't hate Sony I just hate weakness. Buy more ps3 games no one cares about your words Sony needs money! Adult Preteen gaming popgaming is in danger.

When nintendo was making Mario party I was play ikruga. Now that time did suck lol. Yet the ps3 reminds me of the people that bought unreal 2 and 3 minus the tournaments.

Also mw2 offical proves that hd gaming has become pc gaming. Sad huh?

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