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I completed Modern Warfare 2 in 4 Hours 44 Minutes and 23 seconds – Is that a record?
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After Lazygamer posted up their review of Modern Warfare 2 this little article popped up stating
"Thankfully I didn't need to check the clocks as the game stores the time for you and accordingly I was informed that I completed the game in 4:44:23 which is not very long for a full priced game."
Is it really fair to charge full price for a game that clocks in at under 5 hours?
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Natsu X FairyTail
- 44 days 9 hours ago
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"is it really fair to charge full price for a game that clocks in at under 5 hours?"
it clocks @ 5hours for you. Not for everybody. I'll take my time to finish the game not like you that stood around the TV 5hours straight tryna finish the game and make an article about it.
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LazySAGamer
- 44 days 9 hours ago
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1.1 - To review it
The time recorded was for how long the game took to review... the game can last a lot longer on a harder difficulty and obviously Multiplayer is a HUGE factor but the single player can be completed even quicker than this... it wasn't raced
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iron_sheik
- 44 days 9 hours ago
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1.2 - It took 2 hours + to finish the game
Now thats a real shame
charging full price for <5 hour campaign
cant believe that reviewers have given the game a free pass
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Strange_Evil
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Lol frankly speaking ODST's single player lasted more than MW2 in my play through lol. Although MW2 is definitely a better game, but frankly this is the GTA effect where people just wear blinders and review the game and give straight 10s just cause Activision has deep pockets.
Don't get me wrong, the game is nice and multi-player is as addictive as always, but getting 10s all round shows the amount of free pass multi-plat games get. I heard that IGN gave this a 10 in graphics lol seriously!!! I mean an open world game coming a week after this has better graphics than MW2 and a linear game fails to even trump that.. Pity.I can understand people giving UC2 10s cause it actually covered all bases be it SP or MP with jaw dropping graphics and gameplay.
In my books, this game gets an 8 for single player (mainly cause it's intense) and 10 for the spec ops and multiplayer mode (it's addictive). So overall a 9, but anything more than that means you judge the game more on the multi-player aspect then the single player. SP always comes first for me.
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Natsu X FairyTail
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I agree with your point.
EDIT: mugoldeneagle03
You speak the Truth my friend. Bubbles+
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Eh, flawed logic. You get the full game (Single player, co-op, and multiplayer) for full price. Whether or not you choose to indulge in all aspects of the game is your choice, but you are given the entire game anyway. So it is not fair to ask whether or not MW2 is worth it for that price if you only take single player into account.
The IGN video reviewer also stated he beat the game in around 5 hours.
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A speed run of most FPS games takes under 2 hours. Half-life can be completed in under half an hour on the hardest difficulty, Halo 3 in under an hour and a half, but I imagine MW2 will be quite short indeed on a speed run.
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mugoldeneagle03
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1.7 - How many more of these are we going to see?
And by "these" I mean Modern Warfare 2 hate articles to garnish hits from the N4G-MW2-hate community. I mean really, does anyone remember the length of the original Uncharted? Or Heavenly Sword? Because both are fairly short games and I'm 99% sure I beat them both in one sitting. Hell, I platinumed Uncharted 2 in two days, partly because my sleep schedule was royaly screwed up, but still.
I'm just saying if you try to beat something as fast as you can, you'll usually succeed, and you'll also succeed in ruining the games value...For any game, not just MW2.
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soljah
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btw did anyone see this in the joystiq review
Disclaimer: The preceding review is based on an event organized and paid for by Activision, in which media outlets were provided hotel rooms, each equipped with an Xbox 360 and copy of Modern Warfare 2. As this was Joystiq's only opportunity to review the game in advance of its release, we willingly deviated from our standard policy of not accepting accommodations and used the room. We did so because we felt that participating in this event best served the interest of our readers.
For more information on the Joystiq Editorial Ethics Policies, please click here.
Tags: Activision, Call-of-Duty, Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-2, Infinity-Ward, Modern-Warfare-2
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shane025
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1.9 - Oblivion can be beaten in 30 minutes
MW2 has a multilpayer mode that'll last you for years to come.
I've been playing this game since Friday and at first we were only about 3000 people online, but just now I checked again and we're almost 300.000 online! INSANE
It's probably going to be 400.000 - 500.000 during the holidays.
Oh Btw, just for comparison's sake,Uncharted 2 has 7000 people online playing at the same time. Killzone 2, even less.
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Darkeyes
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@Solijah... i won't be even surprised if they gave all the reviewers a prestige edition (one with the NV goggles)... This always happens with huge games. It's a milder form of bribery you can say....
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shane025
- 44 days 8 hours ago
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1.11 - Buying Call of Duty just for the Single player campaign is like watching porn for the "good acting" or the dialogue.
Except on N4G off course, most people buy the game for the multiplayer. The SP is just an after thought.
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toaster
- 44 days 8 hours ago
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1.12 - "seeing as the multiplayer is going to eat years of my life"
No. Wait until March when everyone will have a REAL game to play.
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shane025
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1.13 - "No. Wait until March when everyone will have a REAL game to play"
So you admit you'e got nothing to play that's why you're here trolling 24/7?
You also admit it's the best we've got now till March?
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toaster
- 44 days 8 hours ago
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1.14 - lol No silly.
Shattered Horizon, Dragon Age, Torchlight, L4D2, . There are a whole slew of games to play. I can wait a few months for a better product.
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SL1M DADDY
- 44 days 7 hours ago
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1.15 - He played it on the easy setting and brags about beating it in a few hours?
Sorry, but the easy setting is for folks who have not played shooters and is expected to last a little longer for those who are unskilled at these games. Your attempt to slam the game is just silliness.
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- 44 days 5 hours ago
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1.16 - Sigh...
Reviewers will give ANY game a perfect score if the words "Call of Duty" or "Halo" are on the cover.
Even if the game is less than 5 hours long and mostly just a regurgitation.
Bcause usin teh n00bz toobs on teh Muliplayr make it teh worths itz!
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try completing the game on veteran, get all stars in spec ops and get to the first prestige level in under 5 hours
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It is easy to get a full 10 or 9.5 score when you got buttload of money like Activision does, if you know what I mean :)
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Why everyone is so surprised, the SP of the first one wasn't so long either, so this is the same, I thought people already know and don't care
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1.20 - @mugoldeneagle03
This is not a PS3 vs. Xbox argument... it is about how reviews are (generally) skewed higher than they should when it comes to high profile games (i.e., GTA4, Halo:ODST, etc.)... Regardless of whether or not Xbots believe MW2 to be somehow more theirs than the PS3's, the bottom line is that MW2 is on BOTH the PS3 and Xbox.
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jammy_70
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1.21 - i dont believe so many perfect scores this game is getting
and its sooo short!!!!!
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Ravage27
- 44 days 2 hours ago
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well said, the way 360 fans are talking, you would think mw2 is their exclusive lol.
This is turning out to be eerily similar to the GTA4 fiasco, reviewers are either blinded by (A) the fear of backlash from the huge COD fanbase
(B) Activision's $$$
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nycredude
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Shane stop defending the game already. Face it the sp is short as hell. And for people who say any game is short if you speed run, let me ask what else are you supposed to do in a completely linear fps. are you going to walking around oggling at the enemies and wait for them to shoot you a few times and then say ok i killed like 15 minutes so let me move on now? How do you play a game that is linear any slower without hurting the experience?
@mugoldeneagle03
Heavenly Sword took me 8 hours, Uncharted 1 took me about 9-10 hours and Uncharted 2 took me 13:15 hours the first time and I finished it twice going on three times and this is before the multiplayer and coop. I'm like 20 hours into borderlands and I am not halfway through. What ever your argument it doesn't change the fact this game is extremely short! More so than most games.
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Prototype
- 44 days 1 hour ago
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A lot of people who can beat a game in hours isn't always playing on easy or sitting in front of a tv for hours on end; some people are just naturally good at certain games. I can beat a fighting game under 10 min but takes hours to beat a FPS.
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Shepherd 214
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1.25 - You should really ask yourself
Is it really fair to review a game and judge its definitive length when you played it through on the lowest difficulty?
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The_Denzel
- 43 days 23 hours ago
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1.26 - Here's a tip..
Don't play the game on easy.
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I cannot fathom how you are 20 hours into Borderlands and not even halfway through the game. I was 22 hours at the end of the game with all side missions done.
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This game is redefining "play-value." It's easily one of the greatest multiplayer games to be released. Why would one get angry about this price, when another large multiplayer game, World of Warcraft charges a monthly fee for its play.
I think Infinity Ward has realized this and puts the single player in the back seat.
Its multiplayer is something that I've gladly spent a one time fee for. It's a game that has play value that far exceeds its price.
Going back to games that are not known for their multiplayer, or may not have any multiplayer (Grand Theft Auto, Mass Effect, Heavenly Sword, even Metal Gear Solid). Compare the number of hours you spend actually playing the game. Call of Duty 4 has me clocked at TEN DAYS of multiplayer (240 hrs). Who can say that this is not worth an extra $5-10?
It's a price that I'll gladly pay.
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When did I say anything about the 360 v PlayStation 3 argument? I was simply stating that there are tons of games that can be beat in one sitting if you try to beat it as fast as you can. I don't even own a 360, yet all of you are quick enough to hit that disagree button as fast as you can because the two games I mention are PS3 exclusive.
Oh how I love the N4G community, aha. Sacrifice intelligence for ignorance, all for that tiny disagree instead of a voice. Kudos for at least replying though...
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Elaine Benes
- 43 days 21 hours ago
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1.31 - hahahaaha
speed demon indeed.
but to be honest, this game may have a great story--but its really all about the multiplayer.
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lol i know right? maybe this guy needs to get a life lol
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ReviewsArePolitics
- 43 days 20 hours ago
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1.33 - This game screams RENTAL
Whoever buys this is a sheep that follows what, just like all the halo ODST buyers
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Tony P
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I'm surprised I'm the first one to point this out but... speed run? From lazygamer?
Anyway, I don't like short SP as much as the next guy, but look: it's a shooter.
Shooter games are SHORT. They have been that way for a long time now and everyone keeps buying them because it's the MP that sells the game. So while I don't approve, the point is pretty moot the next time you run out to buy the next MP fragfest.
On another note, people saying "try a harder mode" kind of need to rethink that. There isn't *more* content on a harder mode. It's just more difficult... Not lengthier.
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I finished the main SP in around 5 hours also. But the Special ops, and hundreds of hours with MP with my friends will more than make up for it.
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I bet he played regular. play veteran a good 12 hours ciao!
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Mars Attacker
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LOL. That means it will take me a month to finish. Then turn around and play it again on the next hardest setting. Well worth the $20 (I'll sell it for $40 on eBay after I am done with it).
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- 43 days 12 hours ago
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The meat of the game is it's multiplayer component.
Need I say more? :D
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iron_sheik
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2 - the total gameplay time could be displayed at the end of the game
i believe this guy since many at gaf also complained of longevity
anyway it is a real shame nevertheless
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badboy808
- 44 days 8 hours ago
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3 - The campaign is Really Short
Yet gametrailers gave it a 9.5
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Milo Garret
- 44 days 7 hours ago
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Captain obvious strikes again!
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- 44 days 3 hours ago
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3.2 - I'm glad it only cost £26 from Sainsburys
I actually paid £3.50 as I had £22.50 from my Nectar Points (Reward card)!!
Guess I'm glad. SP should be a real treat, not a add-on.
We all know reviews with "GTA, Halo, COD, etc" will get top scores regardless. So don't trust the integrity of reviewers. Sad, but true.
As I only paid £3.50 for the game, I won't feel short-changed.. (you pays your money, you takes your choice).
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thereapersson
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4 - The game will get 9.5's and 10's anyway
Because it's Modern Warfare 2. They'll excuse the single-player campaign for the same reason.
Sad what this generation has come down to, really...
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Halo3 MLG Pro
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Why? I'm sure this was a speed run. I mean their are reports of people beating MGS4 under 5 hours. The average gamer would probably beat this around 8-10 hours which is about the norm for most games.
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thor
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Not a speed run.
Speed runs are MUCH faster. Speed runs of MGS4 probably take under 2 hours (seeing as if you don't care about being spotted you can just run through the entire game).
A speed run of MW2 may take under an hour. Certainly under 2.
The poster of this article states, "it wasn't raced" in post 1.1
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I don't think reviewers are so inclined to perform a speed run on their own time just to baffle us on how short the game truly is. Afterall, they're paid to tell us how the game is in an average experience.
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Well when you review a game you are suppose to play it at default settings and harder settings. Obviously if you turn the game to the easiest setting then you are trying to see how fast you can beat it. Which normally it will probably take 7-10 hours on the harder settings to beat. But me personally i would pay 60 bucks just for the multiplayer.
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well recruit difficulty is like the easiest thing on earth
i don't mind a short game as long as its fun
i really enjoy call of duty games they are short but enjoyable
I play veteran for the first time because i got used it so it will be longer for me
and you are not paying 60$ for only campaign, you got spec ops and multiplayer that will take you months or even years to complete
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Thats a speed run and we both know you never played MGS4 to come to that conclusion just stop it. This really makes you look even so more sad.
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Nelson M
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1 - Well you must be a PS3 Owner
Because not only are The BoTs Not Good Enough to Complete a Game
Thier Crappy Xbox 360 wont last 4 hours of continuous play before Exploding
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Witty nelson...way to go little guy, you come up with that all by yourself?
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MichaelJackson
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LOL.
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haha... pretty funny for an idiot :p
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Picking this sh!t up today, Wooooooo!!!! Pumped!!!!
Anybody who isn't picking this up today, suffer being a retard.
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The 360's DVD limitation had something to do with this.
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Cutscenes, my friend. They're part of the game. Don't skip 'em.
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Man of the Year brings up a good point regardless of your preferance... the size of the medium doesn't equal game play... I don't think any modern game last me longer than Wizardry 7 did... I put probably over a thousand hours into one party on that game. and that was on a 3.5 inch floppy
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Mgs4 surely can't be completed in 4 hours in your first play through. (took at least 15 hours) You know a lot of games can be completed under 5 hours if you know exactly what to do and where to do, but we are talking about the first play through here. If he completes cod in his first play through, then the game is short period.
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MGS4 is not 4 hours, lol you've never played it dipsh1t
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MGS4 has an unlockable earned for beating the game in under 5 hours...with zero alerts, zero deaths (obviously if you can't set off an alert), and zero kills of enemy players...I believe even bosses have to be tranqued...
watch the youtube vids of it on what you need to do...its sprint past everything...skip every cut scene immediately...and have an almost god like knowledge of where to go...
no chance in hell it can be done on your first play through without a guide...and the only reason it can be completely so quickly is because its checkpoint system is not set up like that of any cod...in MGS4 you either start the action, or it doesn't happen at all (assuming they don't see you)...thats why under 5 hours is a possibility...it can be 15 hours if you 'take sides' and actually actively engage enemies...
MW2 is not like that...no other way to cut it; just like cod 4...the campaign is insanely short...and thats ok...there is a lot more to a game...if you are still one of those fps fans that smells their own farts and insists that online play is not a selling point of a game...you are not going to get much out of MW2...but if you accept the fact that its easily one of the best multiplayer games to date...you'll love it, and its well worth the money...MGS4 only had its single player...Japan doesn't get online gaming, and MGO is a perfect illustration of that...MW2 is FAR from the best single player game this generation, I wouldn't even put it in the top 10 so far from what i've played...but its easily one of the top 5 best games of this gen overall so far...
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- 43 days 11 hours ago
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Man of the year is truly an idiot. If you want to time a game based on knowing the the ins and out of it, most games can be beaten in under 4 hours. Look at Uncharted for example, if you played the game already you would know exactly how the puzzles work and it would be a breeze. You sir are the definition of a retard. Trust me nobody can beat a game like MGS4 under 4 hours on their first play through.
Jeez, the logic of a 360 fanboy these days. :rolleyes:
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ICE PICK
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its not fair to charge full price for a fricken FPS game, way beyond overdone and ran into the ground.....however if the Third person view is just as important and has its own ranked lobbies then i would say full price is fair......but thats just because i dont play single player....yes 5 hours is pitiful but if they put a lot of stuff in the online then i would exuse it, im not buying this game cuz activision but im gonna rent it.....and if you guys do buy it, try to buy it used
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lol, it even costs more than the average game on 360 and PS3 which is BS considering that the single player is so damn short and there are better multiplayers out there like MAG and Battlefield. Besides, you shouldn't be expected to pay more than other games like uncharted and halo which actually have pretty good single players and multiplayers.
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5 hours to beat? That is insane, how short is this game?
Most people buy this game for the MP but i'm more interested in SP games. Granted, i never planned on buying this game, but still, 5 hours is really short for a $60 game.
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4.1 - I agree
And although there is a multiplayer component, a game like Heavenly Sword reaches at least 7 hours, but gets points deducted from certain sites because of it.
Yet, of course, Modern Warfare 2 didn't. Personally, I think points should be deducted for bad performance under a category that is factored into the score and that the game already has (multiplayer, co-op, split-screen, etc.) and not deducted for things that the reviewer "wishes" it had.
Also, points shouldn't be taken if a game is short. It could've been the developers decision. The story might've dragged on if it kept going, and if the reviewer doesn't like it, they should add it as a note, not a point taken off.
The review system, like our US judicial system, is broken and outdated in some cases. The whole thing just wreaks of corruption.
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I think points should be taken away if the single-player is too short.
There is a steady trend of the game makers giving use less content for the same money. A four hour campaign is much too short. I would rather the game just ditch the campaign altogether and be multi-player only. Next week there will be some DLC for sale for this game.
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4.3 - @above
If they had it that way, Warhawk would've had terrible review scores because the campaign was stripped altogether, yet the multiplayer had enough power and replay value to keep gamers going. And if Uncharted 2 were to be any longer in campaign, it wouldn't have been as compelling story-wise. Sometimes it's best to have a short story, unless it's a story that was simply cut in half. That just wouldn't make sense.
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hellghan666
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5 - I completed Modern Warfare 2 in 4 Hours 44 Minutes
pathetic this...
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souljah
- 44 days 5 hours ago
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6 - uhm
phack it.
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7 - "I completed Modern Warfare 2 in 4 Hours 44 Minutes and 23 seconds"
then start with the hardest mode instead of "Easy" next time you buy a full priced game you stupid.
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DonCorneo
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7.1 - are you saying that more content will magically pop up if you play it on higher difficulty levels?
yeah, SP is short but there's co-op and MP which will last months
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napoleon_ist
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7.2 - what i mean is it will take more time to complete the game if you play it the hard way.
sounds logic to me.
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ZBlacktt
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Regular = same time. So harder is going to justify the price, lol. Either way, the game is short as hell. Is there any game shorter than 4hr 40mins that took 2 years to make? Someone is cashing in bigtime on this game, lol.
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Foliage
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That's like telling someone that if they find a game short that they should only use their left hand next time. Don't get the duration of the game confused with the duration of a play session. If that was the case, you can almost claim that xbox game "x" or PS3 game "y" had a longer duration because you achieved every trophy/achievement. That is just not how it works.
Dying twice as much doesn't make a game longer. Standing in a corner for an hour doesn't make a game longer. Standing in cover for an extra hour doesn't make the game longer.
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8 - DLC
I would guess it was so short because they had to leave something to charge for. They will sell you some DLC and get that $100 they wanted one way or another!
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9 -
Another friend of another site just posted......
[QUOTE=callum-2006;408343661] I just finished the campaign in 4:46:13 on "Regular" difficulty haha. I don't care though cause its all about the multiplayer for me :D[/QUOTE]
Holly hype shortest game ever???? lol. I guess all those loose ends of the story from COD4 that this was suppose to fill in. Was nothing more than a quick note, lol. We'll $60 for online playing it is then. Hope it's worth it and you don't feel like you have a map pack from COD4 2007.
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9.1 - yeah, it's a map pack
graphics are the same. i really do not see any improvements. it's still good-looking, don't get me wrong. but after being blown away by kz2 and uncharted 2, i wouldn't give this a 10 for graphics.
MP is still fun, though. haven't tried spec ops yet. they said there are some cool stuff in it but no way it will top uncharted 2's co-op.
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Under 6 hour campaign = NO GOTY for you MW2!
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Under 6? More like under 5, lol... Like you could get up. Start playing at breakfast and be totally done by lunch, lol...sad.
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I completed the single player portion of Smash Brothers on the N64 in about 15 minutes. It was a full-priced game. Should I make an article about it too?
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Kaneda
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12 - Star Trek
Next week Star Trek is coming on Bluray.. Ohhh yeaaaahhh!!
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13 - 5 hours of quality gameplay +
countless motherf$$$$n hours of on live. On line is where it's at ladies it's to bad the psn sucks donkey $ht when it comes to on line play so i can see why many of you think there is only 4 hours of gameplay.
P.S. The 360 controll is the best for this game only 2nd to the mouse/p.c. The ps3 shoulder pads just felt weird with Cod 4.
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filfyvillain
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14 - Wow.
This website really is a piece of sh!t. How could anyone take it seriously?
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yes you can complete the mw2 in under 5 hours but hay i did it in under 3 hours and 15 min 25 sec so what ever how long the game goes on for it dosn't matter people buy games to play online anyway sooo why all the bullshit about MGS4 mgs4 was good but it came and gone just like mw2 will soon MICROSOFT CAN EAT MY S**T suck my CO*K or become a picture on my wall showing how the red ring of death was becoming one of the bigest let down junk of all time but i'v still got my ps3 on launch day its been 3 years ago since i got it never had a problem microsoft 360 died the very next day of release..... hardware or software the 360 was the biggest LOSERS of the year probably 4 million 360 died after release ps3 may have died 2 or 3 years after sooo microsoft WINS the gold trophy for it LAME hardware sony won the platinum trophy for beating 360 at not dieing after release. F**K YOU MICROSOFT and f**k all the fanboys or FAN F-a-g-s on 360 out there
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