Lens of Truth: Call of Duty - Modern Warfare 2 Analysis

SL1M DADDY - 49 days 19 hours ago

*facepalm*

I did read the dribble but dribble from a bias media outlet is just that, bias media. When a bias media outlet runs tests, there is ultimately bias ingrained into the test as with the LOT tests. LOT has a rep of bias and has had so since they came about. They are a flamebait site that thrives on fanboys like you so please, don't use them as an argument aid, that is as bad as using VG Charts for sales numbers.

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Soda Popinsky - 49 days 16 hours ago

That's some true Jedi denial you are displaying there lol!

The sh!tty german site must be right since it shows the PS3 version looking more like the 360. Even though it has no explanations and lo-res screenshots.

Sour grapes ftw! Anyways. No one in their right mind would play an FPS game using that clunky 10 year old controller design. Not to mention the dead quiet desert that is PSN.

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evildeli - 50 days 16 hours ago

I don't think it looks washed out.

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fiore3dartist - 50 days 16 hours ago

Some proof please!

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PirateThom - 50 days 16 hours ago

Lens of Truth use "default" settings. Which seems to be make sure the limited mode is on for PS3.

It's why these comparisons are questionable, there's a huge difference here, but none on the other screens.

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AK46 - 50 days 16 hours ago

Something fishy going on here.

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evildeli - 50 days 16 hours ago

They show the differences in the first rollover. I question if you read the article

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PirateThom - 50 days 15 hours ago

I did read it and, yes, they do show the differences.

And, the screenshots after it, show the similar washed out "limited" range on the PS3 version against the crisper "expanded" range on the 360.

Unless Cynamite is lying as well.

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junk-3d - 50 days 15 hours ago

Having played the game, you have the ability to adjust gamma. It looks like cynamite.de did tweaks on both systems to make the colors match.

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Noob - 50 days 15 hours ago

Can easily be fixed by adjusting the brightness/contrast, which is something they don't do. These pictures tell a different story.

http://www.cynamite.de/_mis...

http://www.cynamite.de/_mis...

But they are right about everything else and the bloom effect, which makes the 360 version look worse in some scenes IMO. Makes the game look too bright.

http://www.cynamite.de/_mis...

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lunaluagua - 50 days 14 hours ago

just compare their "screenshots" with those of the other links in this thread. the ps3 version in the other links looks slightly sharper than the 360 on ALL of them (just look at the posters), but yes likes in the LoT article there is no "bloom" but that in my opinion in most of the shots looks bad (shiny heads). the colors are NOT off, and if u look at lens of truth, in their screenshots on the PS3 side are taken from a slightly more far off distance perspective, so OF COURSE it makes the 360 textures look sharper, but surprisingly in the other comparison they are slightly worse on EVERY identical frame. just look at the evidence HERE and say i'm wrong--lens of proof biased confirmed

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

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Fel - 50 days 12 hours ago

Everyone who realises this setting exists for PC monitors, raise your hand!

*crickets*

Limited is correct for televisions. The extra bit of range at either end exists to prevent clipping. If you turn on "Full", you're just smacking your games with black crush. The correct way to do it is to use "Limited" and then properly calibrate the brightness and contrast on your television set.

Don't take your advise from a bunch of 14 year olds either... if you don't believe me, go ask in a mature AV forum and they'll tell you the same. Understand what you're talking about.

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Hutch2355 - 50 days 10 hours ago

Just a question, why are the "default settings" not the best settings, or do you need to tweek settings on the ps3 for all games? Not trying to be a fanboy, but I see it alot when it comes to these types of comparasins. I have never tweeked my settings for any game on any system after the initial set up. Why would sony make the default settings not be the ones that show off the games the best? Please everyone dont hammer me for asking a question. I got my Ps3 in january so I didn't know it needed constant tweeking to get the most out of games.

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TheReaper42 - 50 days 5 hours ago

@above

First thing i did when i bought my tv is to change its setting for best visuals. The same thing was done on the PS3. Change it to "FULL" instead of "limited." What's so hard about changing your setting once? And I seriously doubt you even own a PS3.

Do yourself a favor, take your imaginary PS3 and turn on your imaginary "Full" setting.

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shadow2797 - 50 days 1 hour ago

Wow, The Reaper, that was just sad. Look a couple posts above yours and you would see that Limited is the correct setting. And you also claimed he didn't have a PS3 for asking a valid question. Geez.

To answer the question, basically, no two HD TV's are identical. You need to find the settings that look best with your set up. Sony most likely set the defaults to look best on the majority of sets, which are SD. If you don't want to go through the trouble, you don't have to, but there are ways to make the game look better. Some games make you set the brightness on the first start up (such as Killzone 2).

I know Limited is correct for TV monitors, but does any knowledgeable person know when the correct time to use "Super White" is?

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Qui-Gon Jim - 49 days 19 hours ago

The default setting on PS3 is for "limited" which IS correct for almost all TV's. The problem, though, comes in that if you are doing screen-shot captures, you are going to be doing it on a computer, and the proper setting for computer monitors is "full." When i bought my HDTV in January i did some research on this on avforums and other places, and it was consistently stated that "limited" is for TV, "full" is for computer monitors. So for screen grabs, they SHOULD be using "RGB full."

I don't know how much difference that would make with this comparison, but as others have pointed out, cynamite shows the two as being virtually the same with perhaps a slight edge going to the PS3 (imo). One site shows 360 version looking better, one shows both being the same, believe which one you want. I, for one, can enjoy a game without needing to say "I can enjoy it more than you can."

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Hutch2355 - 49 days 16 hours ago

my psn id is hutch2355 just like my live id is. The question was asked because I honestly didn't know, so do you have to do it to the 360 as well? I have a 52 inch toshiba lcd 1080p. I think the games look great. you are a typical fanboy. Someone can't even ask a question here anymore. What a moron you are. Thanks to the others for your honest answers, and proving that n4g isn't just fanboys, but fans of gaming unlike that idiot.

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TheReaper42 - 49 days 15 hours ago

CALM down hutch, look at your little 14 year old barrage of insults. I set my option to FULL because it makes the graphics more vibrant and not washed out. Unless you're dumb, you would know how to do it too.

Your question on the 360, I leave my settings alone. On my PS3, I leave my setting on FULL for ALL GAMES. My LCD monitor is calibrated perfectly. Are you people too stupid to comprehend how easily it is to switch between full and limited?

SO I guess in your term, telling the facts = fanboy now huh? Go back to school and get educated.

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shawnsl65 - 49 days 15 hours ago

Lol... no wonder Hutch couldn't see the difference between FULL and Limited.. he has a toshiba nuff said. My samsung can tell the difference between full and limited, but my toshiba.. well.. it doesn't make a significant difference. Typical 360 fanboy trashing the ps3.

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Hutch2355 - 49 days 10 hours ago

No its morons like you two that make this site almost unbearable. When I see people acting like fanboys, sure I post rants against them. At one point I could be called a 360 fanboy, that was before I purchased my ps3 and found out how incredible it was. Now back to the point, this is not bashing of the ps3 idiot, it is a question, or do you not know the difference. I have never changed my settings on my ps3 so no I don't know the difference between the two, but i guess with my 3 year old 52 inch tv I couldn't huh? What a couple of morons. I gather that the two of you must be the teenagers, based on your past comments, lol Geez I should have read your past comments before commenting, I wouldn't have wasted my time. Thanks again to the people that answer questions and don't just bash like the two idiots above. So you two, go ahead and bash, I won't have any bubbles left to respond. Once again it will prove how fanboyish you two and your comments are.

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Treylove99 - 49 days 10 hours ago

telling facts doesn't = fanboy, but treating people like you did, for asking a question, is. YOU proved how ignorant someone can be on this site. The poor guy asks a serious question, and you and the other guy just bash the heck out of him. I agree with hutch, you two are proof how bad this site has become. Real gamers look at people like you two and probably don't even bother posting on this site. It is so much worse now than it was when the 360 idiots were hammering everyone, now if you even meniton a hint that you might like the 360 over the ps3 you are hammered and your bubbles disapear. Its no wonder most ture fans have bailed on this place. Mostly because real gamers don't stand up and hammer back you idiots like you two. Two peas in a pod. Acting like little children. So sad you have nothing better to do with your lives than just hammer a poor guy for asking a question. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

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shawnsl65 - 49 days 5 hours ago

Nice two accounts same IP, you are truely pathetic. More lil babies added to the ignore list.

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AK46 - 50 days 15 hours ago

Microsoft wins what?

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ExPresident - 50 days 15 hours ago

Wins what exactly? A maybe slightly better looking multi-console title? Congrats. Lemme know how that works out for you while I keep enjoying KZ2 and Uncharted 2 among a huge list of other things that aren't multi-console.

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mastiffchild - 50 days 15 hours ago

And it entirely a matter of opinion which controller you prefer anyway. There is NO RIGHT or wrong one it depends on the person. I've often put it down to me being left handed that the 360 pad feels too awkward to use for most games for me but it's also just way too bulky for my tastes and if my modding mate won't hurry up and make me a 360 pad innards in a DS3 shell then I'm gonna have to buy one of them adapters as I'm sick to death of struggling with the 360 pad.

Honestly, I find it really odd that people think one is automatically better than the other and ignore personal preferences, hand size and whether you're left or right handed.

I've seen the game running on both systems myself now and think the cynamite shots are more like what you se in real life with your PS3 set up properly-there's so little difference and sites like LoT need to find them to justify their existence. So there's an agenda I do NOT trust.

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stewgart - 50 days 15 hours ago

360 nearly always looks better in multiplats but nothing noticeable that makes a game worth getting over the other version. 360 controller is a joke though I dunno how anyone can use that piece of crap to aim a gun; shooting at snail speed with sluggish triggers whilst unable to aim as a result of the disgustingly sticky and clunky anologue stick. Not to mention disgusting fees for xbox live.

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corneliuscrust - 50 days 14 hours ago

what? rly?

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ape007 - 50 days 13 hours ago

yes the 360 pad is better for shooters

360 pad give more accurate aiming and more satisfying shooting feel due to its awesome triggers

guys here need treatment

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facelike - 50 days 11 hours ago

Yet two of the three people on this site bought the PS3 version.

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shadow2797 - 50 days 1 hour ago

Umm because people disagree? I prefer R1 to the triggers, personally. But the 360 analogue sticks are miles better than but DS3's. However, I don't like the placement of the bumpers on the 360 controller.

It's called personal preference. I don't mind using either one but I'm more at home with a DS3.

But at the end of the day, it just matters which version your friends are getting. Which is why I'm getting this for 360, even though I have the first one on PS3. I know, I'm a rebel ;-).

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LIVE_FR0M_NY - 50 days 14 hours ago

every head-2-head looks like this, PS3 is always washed out for some reason ONLY on this site. ill wait for digital foundrys take on the matter... they actually know what they are talking about

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Joe Bomb - 50 days 4 hours ago

because thats how the PS3 version looks, washed out.

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devilhunterx - 50 days 13 hours ago

And PS3 has the best controller to shoot terrorists with.

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LIVE_FR0M_NY - 50 days 15 hours ago

how can anybody disagree with this statement? lmao obvioulsy unchartted 2 looks better than anything on the market, its a FACT fanboys

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divideby0 - 50 days 14 hours ago

yea.....just before EB closed last nite..we were playing both games...albiet diff. kiosks, but you would have to be blind not to see the diff...

yea..disagree and respectfully please get a pair of glasses

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corneliuscrust - 50 days 14 hours ago

on default settings

there are much better looking games on both systems. MW looked good for its day...but that was years ago

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