Lens of Truth: Call of Duty - Modern Warfare 2 Analysis

YLOD Service Tech - 42 days 19 hours ago

The PS3 version looks washed out. Seems to be a typical problem for most multiplatform games.

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fiore3dartist - 42 days 19 hours ago

My money goes to PS3. The differences are too minor to even care!

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IcyJoker187 - 42 days 19 hours ago

Since the differences are so minor, PS3 for me.

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SL1M DADDY - 42 days 19 hours ago

Try using the right settings on the game there guys. If you want the real comparison, go to http://www.cynamite.de/_mis...

At least they use the settings provided by the PS3 to make sure the game looks as though it would on your TV and not so washed out. LoT is getting unnecessary these days.

The other thing they don't tell you is that if you are going to play this on the 360 for the next two years the cost to you for the game will be 160 bucks instead of the PS3 version being only 60 bucks.

See what I did there? I thought so.

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StanLee - 42 days 19 hours ago

Just wait for Digital Foundry's comparison. They're the most legit.

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YLOD Service Tech - 42 days 19 hours ago

After a second look, the PS3 version seems to have lower res texture as well.

In light of this, I'll be getting the 360 version for sure.

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Carlton Banks - 42 days 19 hours ago

lol Who cares what you think, your name is YLOD Service Tech, an obvious 360 fanboy.

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junk-3d - 42 days 19 hours ago

Funny thing is that they don't judge based on the color differences, as that can be fixed with in game settings. Everything is judge with straight out of the box settings so they are on equal playing field. Don't hate because Infinity Ward jacked the default settings up on the PS3.

Color differences aside, the Xbox 360 version is the winner, but not by much.

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darkride66 - 42 days 19 hours ago

We really know nothing about them and quite often their conclusions defy logic. Anyone check out the conclusions they made for Wolfenstein, Tekken6 or BlazBlue?
With Wolfenstein they said the 360 version tore almost every time you took a shot. The PS3 version had 8 seconds more load time between levels. Tie. Really? A tie?
BlazBlue was identical almost in every way according to LOT except they expressed maddening frustrations with the 360's controls. Tie again. Really?
Or Tekken 6. Both games nearly identical. PS3 version had slower load times unless you install on the hard drive and then the difference is 0-1.7 seconds. Winner! 360. Come on, guys? Can you really declare one version superior when the difference is 1.7 seconds of load time?

And the problem is, almost no one does these type of comparisons so there's no one to compare LOT's findings against. Eurogamer does these from time to time, but that's Eurogamer. They're partnered up with Microsoft in business matters and have a proven pro-360 and anti-PS3 bias. You really can't take their word for it because they're clearly compromised. IGN does head to head's every now and then, but they only do a fraction of games, much like LOT.

I think I'll stick with Metacritic scores and reviewers I trust rather then these comparisons. If IGN says they're practically identical and get the same score, that's good enough for me. And Metacritic gives you an average of thousands of professional reviews. I think that's far more useful then these type of questionable comparisons. Besides, the gaming industry itself uses Metacritic as a measure. If it's good enough for them, it should be good enough for the rest of us.

Edit Below: Actually, I don't know what they said. I can't get into their site to see what the comparison was. It's really irrelevant to my point though. Doesn't matter if they said the PS3 or 360 version were better, my point was I simply don't trust these guys.

Funny how so many are quick to criticize me personally but can't be bothered to actually address my points. Am I to assume you have no counter arguments?

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fiore3dartist - 42 days 19 hours ago

That was funny!! God you look like such a baby!! Did you read the article? It's funny how 2/3 guys that worte the Head 2 Head are buying the PS3 version. Play that violin!!

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evildeli - 42 days 19 hours ago

blah blah blah, blazblue, wolfenstein, blah blah blah. Move on Dark.

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shazui123 - 42 days 19 hours ago

this game looks worse than I thought, definitely no killzone 2 in the looks department :( looks like another biased LOT review to me also, whats with the contrast settings? cynamite did it the same, why cant LOT? oh i forgot, tekken 6 and blazblue, shows theyre a bit biased really doesnt it?

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facelike - 42 days 19 hours ago

Funny, the 360 won according to the site, but 2 of the 3 staff members from the site bought it on PS3 instead of the 360.

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SL1M DADDY - 42 days 19 hours ago

"Funny thing is that they don't judge based on the color differences, as that can be fixed with in game settings. Everything is judge with straight out of the box settings so they are on equal playing field. Don't hate because Infinity Ward jacked the default settings up on the PS3."

Then you agree with me. Good to see. You, by your own admission have agreed that Lens of Truth is no longer necessary and that they admittedly do not allow for their audience to see the game as it could be on both consoles but rather what the games default is. So the games with slight tweaks of the console (perfectly permitted by anybody that can play the game) would in fact look identical and thus proves that LoT is full of douche-baggery and only tries to paint the 360 in the better light. Thanks for the admission of fanboyism on LoT's part.

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Bubbles_Kitty_Cat - 42 days 19 hours ago

Wow, you can really tell that the "lensoftruth" guys must get a TON of hate mail from PS3 fans.

Seriously, most of the article reads like an apology for pointing out that the 360 version is superior.
I understand why they are walking on eggshells, but it is rather tough to read after a while.

It's a shame that people take videogames so seriously that sites like lensoftruth can't speak openly and frankly about which version is better.

But, I'm sure they are getting tired of the death threats. lol

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Soda Popinsky - 42 days 19 hours ago

This article must be false and biased since the PS3 version didn't come out on top.

Or could it be that most of you commenting in here are biased towards the PS3 and just can't accept it? Impossible!

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darkride66 - 42 days 18 hours ago

Soda said "This article must be false and biased since the PS3 version didn't come out on top."

It has nothing to do with bias and everything to do with LOT's results being questionable. With so many questionable conclusions reached by LOT in the past, how can you trust a site like this on anything?

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kws1065 - 42 days 18 hours ago

if it's true. The site is really lame. They write the article just for hit, not considering user purchase.

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O2_Addict - 42 days 17 hours ago

They're both equally ugly.

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LiQuiFiedArt - 42 days 17 hours ago

More stable and all around better.

One of the reason I dont buy multi-platform games that don't fully utilize the hardware. I might not buy this now. So dissapointing.

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darkride66 - 42 days 17 hours ago

When games are this close, I'll always buy the version that runs on reliable hardware and doesn't charge me extra fees to play the game like the developers intended it to be played, online.

I really can't get over why so many people accept this. When I buy a game, I expect to be able to play 100% of that game, not half the game until I shell out extra money to Microsoft for subscription fees. It amazes me to this day that so many people fell for this cash grab when there were viable alternatives on the PC and PS3 for free. I paid for XBL for two years before, because of another dead 360, I was forced to get my gaming fix on my PS3 and finally wised up to the fact that really, all that matters is being able to play online. Both do it, one charges for it. Nothing else really matters.

I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but it's just my opinion. Lots of people feel justified in paying Microsoft extra to play their games. I'm just not one of them.

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slayorofgods - 42 days 16 hours ago

Well, I guess that some people need to disillusion themselves somehow when their gaming console has a poor line up.

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ABizzel1 - 42 days 16 hours ago

Ha, I called it. That goes to show the 4 people who disagreed with me. The PS3 version looked washed out, but you have to read why. There was no Full RGB, when it was turned on and using HDMI, the PS3 version looked a lot better.

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Statix - 42 days 15 hours ago

In the following screenshot comparison, you can plainly see that the PS3 version features more detailed texture quality on some surfaces (note the metal stove on the right side of the screen, revealing significantly sharper texture detail on the PS3).

http://www.cynamite.de/_mis...

This screenshot also shows an instance where the bloom/overbright effect is actually slightly more prominent and visible on the PS3 version; we know the effect is there on both platforms, but there might be variation between them in terms of where they are prominent and visible.

I personally do not have the game yet, but based on the many comparison screenshots I have witnessed, it would appear to me that this particular comparison by Lens of Truth is somewhat flawed and shortchanging the PS3 version.

Again, here's the link to the screenshot:

http://www.cynamite.de/_mis...

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vhero - 42 days 15 hours ago

you guys should look at a better comparison site rather than lens of truth who have proven time and time again they are a bunch of 360 fanboys. If you use ps3 with all its abilitys which obviously ps3 gamers will be doing they both look so near identical theres no telling the differnce but no that wouldn't make the 360 look good eh?

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IdleLeeSiuLung - 42 days 15 hours ago

a) better colors
b) glare/bloom effects
c) better shadows
d) better frame rates!
e) better load times

Doesn't justify a win for the 360, I don't know what will?

If anything the better frame rates alone should justify the 360 win since they are so similar anyhow.

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Statix - 42 days 15 hours ago

ALSO: Here's another screenshot comparison showing BETTER, more prominent BLOOM/OVERBRIGHT/GLOW effects on the PS3 version:

http://www.cynamite.de/_mis...

Not to mention that the Lens of Truth staff mentions the "smoother shadows" of the 360 version, but neglects to mention that the PS3 version's shadows appear to be slightly more well defined and detailed, albeit more jaggedy because of the lesser filtering.

The more I see other screenshot comparisons from other sites, the more I arrive to the conclusion that this particular comparison by Lens of Truth is flawed in some form or fashion.

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Tempjf - 42 days 15 hours ago

God I can't wait for Digital Foundry's comparisons to come out. It's gonna confirm the LOT's comparison and make you look like the cumtart that you are..

When it happens I be sure to let you and vhero know how wrong you guys were and how right the LOT was....

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QuackPot - 42 days 15 hours ago

Don't read these stupid multiplat comparisons. They only perpetuate fanboyism.

Fact is, most developers know how to program both consoles properly now and the only excuse for any crappy or poorer versions of a multiplat is a lazy developer.

So don't read these flame bait comparison posts.

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Statix - 42 days 15 hours ago

Why don't you take a look at my screenshot proof, and respond to them in a logical manner, point by point? Rather than resort to namecalling, proving yourself to be an overly emotion fanboy with a biased agenda.

I guess debating with facts and logic has never been a strong suit of Xbox fans. They don't seem like the smartest kids around.

I also find it comical that 360 fans such as yourself pretend like graphics don't matter at all, when it comes to graphical powerhouses like Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2--"Graphics don't matter, gameplay does," right? Yet when it comes to Modern Warfare 2 and other multiplatform releases, you Xbox fans are splitting hairs and arguing over the SLIGHTEST graphical differences, like slightly better shadow filtering, or a few frames of framerate difference.

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Tempjf - 42 days 15 hours ago

so you took those screen shots your self? That means that http://www.cynamite.de/_mis... is your site. All that web site show is images no article to support his images. On the other hand LOT explaines why.

All I am saying is I have the game like many of you do and it looks exceptionally like what they show on the LOT site. Of course at it's default settings. Regardless, I'm telling you, wait till Digital Foundry does his comparison then well see..

EDIT: Oh and yes I am a fanboy, never said I wasn't!

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Statix - 42 days 15 hours ago

It's not my website.

You say that the website just offers screenshots without "explaining them," but that's actually the LEAST biased way to present comparison images and videos. I much rather have a website present images to me so that I can analyze and compare them MYSELF without the possibility of a bias or agenda.

When you have a website like Lens of Truth providing an "analysis," there's way too much room for things like bias, or human error, or just some people MISSING stuff. Humans are not perfect; their analyses are not perfect and are subject to BIAS and ERROR.

Therefore, I much prefer a website just give me screenshots that allow me to do the comparisons myself WITHOUT adding in their own commentary (which can be flawed).

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Tempjf - 42 days 15 hours ago

Ok then how do you know what settings he using? If he is adjusting the contrast for one is he doing it for the other. I mean think about it. Is he using HDMI or component there is soo much room for fowl play. That way is completely biased. I've been following the LOT from the beginning and yes they are only human and they have made mistakes in the past but they are not the end all be all. They are merely expressing their opinion about which one they preferred. Like they say in the article the final decision always come down to you. You got to respect that

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pogibaldy - 42 days 14 hours ago

But I still think Lens of Truth does a bang up job.

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slayorofgods - 42 days 14 hours ago

It is very interesting how much the comparisons differ. It also explains why I don't care about seeing these websites giving comparisons. There is just something not to trust.

The first modern warefare looked like clone on both 360 and PS3. Why would they regress now? They are to good of a company to struggle with making games for two consoles. They aren't Valve, so I'd expect quality on their PS3 support, YET AGAIN!!!!!

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Mr Logic - 42 days 14 hours ago

PC FTW! Yeah the 360 looks better, but I only play multiplat games on PC and exclusives on consoles.

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randomwiz - 42 days 11 hours ago

"In light of this, I'll be getting the 360 version for sure."

its not like you have a choice...

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Mikerra17 - 42 days 10 hours ago

the 360 fanboys are all over this one, I think we have gotten to that point where the PS3 is starting to surpase the 360 in terms of fan base. It used to be semi rare to see 360 fans come onto the chat and bash PS3. Looking as if the tide has turned 360 fanboys are starting to get desperate

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kwicksandz - 42 days 10 hours ago

the difference in the snow level looked quite drastic, ps3 seemed to have a very muted colour pallete. otherwise i didnt notice many differences.

still boycotting for the treatment of pc version though.

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DaTruth - 42 days 9 hours ago

Almost every game has a brightness scale in the options. It almost never matches your screen right out of the box!

If you were to go to the options and set the brightness scale, these games would look exactly the same.

Also, all my TV settings are set to RGB and Super white on. If I were to turn those off for the purposes of a comparison, my television would not be set right for my PS3 settings!

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commodore64 - 42 days 8 hours ago

SO yeah... um....

360 version:

- better bloom/flare (proven)
- slightly faster framerates (proven)
- much faster load times (proven)
- better shadows (proven)
- better colours (debatable)

Did anyone else notice how LOT went OUT OF THEIR WAY to explain why and how they do these comparisons?
Were they expecting a backlash from angry fanboys?
... they sure got it!

I am just glad they present their accurate findings.

It is interesting to note the usual ps3 diehards alleging LOT is biased.
That's so sad.

Fact is, LOT cannot fake ps3 increased loading times
Fact is, LOT cannot fake ps3 inferior shadows
Fact is, LOT cannot fake ps3 slightly reduced framerates.
Fact is, LOT canNot fake that MW2 is demonstrably technically better on the 360, even if the differences are subtle.

That's the truth of it.
Thanks LOT, for providing such strength and truth amongst all the subjective and inaccurate reports on the net.

We need more sites like LOT that just tell it like it is!

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IdleLeeSiuLung - 42 days 2 hours ago

I agree. I mean frame rate alone given all else is roughly equal is enough to give the win to the 360!

Unless you prefer the PS3 controller, but I will take smoother game play anytime.

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SL1M DADDY - 42 days 1 hour ago

Even after showing everybody how the PS3 version is exactly the same in every way with pictures to boot the 360 fans still can't seem to see the truth. Now that is dedication to MS... I wonder, what is it that you get from MS for your blind admiration?

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commodore64 - 42 days ago

@ slimdaddy

Heres' what you said:
"the PS3 version is exactly the same in every way"

Dude, the LOT article PROVED that this isn't the case.
Other posters, including me, even went to the trouble of pointing out the exact areas where this isn't the case.

Yet, then you come along and completely ignore the evidence?
What is wrong with you?

Do you work at ignorance, or is it a natural talent you have?

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SL1M DADDY - 41 days 23 hours ago

To sum it up for ya. One is not bias, the other is. One tells the truth, the other does not. One shows true representation of both copies, one does not. LOT is a pathetic excuse for a site and Cynamite is not. You can trust Cynamite and only fanboys trust LOT.

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commodore64 - 41 days 23 hours ago

*groans*

..but slim daddy...
can you not read?

LOT accurately measured and compared framerates, load times and shadows.
In these areas, the 360 undeniably came out on top.
That is a fact.

What did cynamite do?
They posted some screenshots that look about the same.
They did no comparison at all, and the interpretation of the screenshots is no different than the interpretation of the screenshots of the LOT article itself.

Read the article if you don't believe me.

Your argument is very weak indeed and your adherence to it is making you look very foolish, friend.

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fiore3dartist - 42 days 19 hours ago

Big deal the 360 has a bloom effect... wow.

All I care is the textures look exact!! PS3 for me all the way

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Bot Smasha - 42 days 19 hours ago

Wow what are they taken from? Amagazine with a phone camera? get over yourself, why dont you go play dragon age on your 360..oh wait it looks like crap as it shows the true limitations of the 360 a huge open world rpg with lots of scenery and loads happening on screen.

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buying1999 - 42 days 19 hours ago

Looks like garbage compared to Killzone2.

PS3..Get on board of be left behind.

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JeffGUNZ - 42 days 18 hours ago

http://www.tampax.com Looks like someones on the rag.

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electricshadow - 42 days 14 hours ago

@ muDD

Wow, my brain hurts after reading that. Ever heard of a period? Holy crap. Have you also heard of this thing called grammar? XD

When you try to make a point and you can't even use proper grammar, capitalization and spelling, people are going to think you're retarded.

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4point7BillionLoss - 42 days 1 hour ago

looks better than any exclusive ....

360 version wins too ... and they said the 360 was maxed out two years ago and here it is with a hot looking game nearly identical only slightly better than the PS3 version ... and still looking better than any exclusive on any system.

I bet it didn't cost $4.7 billion though ....

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Chrisny85 - 41 days 20 hours ago

i got mw2 for both systems because i have a lot of friends (thanks to uncharted) on each. and truth is it looks better on my ps3. and my ps3 is on composite cables where as my 360 is on hdmi.

people in the distance look blurry on 360, maybe because of the filters? and the blood on the screen is not as good. just some things i noticed.

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fiore3dartist - 42 days 19 hours ago

Yeah the 360 won but they said it was minor!

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YLOD Service Tech - 42 days 19 hours ago

They said it's minor to calm you PS3 fanboys down. In reality this shows how inferior the graphics are on the PoS3.

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Ninji - 42 days 19 hours ago

They will buy/rent/play the PS3 version anyways. Nobody cares if the game looks a bit lighter or darker. More people care if they can play the same game online for free or not.

Not to mention these multiplats are looking better than the 360's exclusives (now I know why you bots are hyping them up so much). On the PS3 this is just yet another game in the PS3's growing library of games but it doesn't look better than PS3 exclusives like Killzone, Uncharted, & God of War.

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FailureRate54 - 42 days 19 hours ago

LOL
inferior graphic on PS3?

Ohh, that's why GT5, GoW3, UC2, UC1, Heavy Rain, and yes... even Super Rub a Dub, own EVERY FlopBox game?

ouch...

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Gobuz - 42 days 18 hours ago

Dude, you sound like a fckin pr!ck. Does it really matter to you so much? Have you nothing better to do than make a stupid username and trash the PS3? if you love the xbox that much just play it, nobody gives a flying f*ck what you think.

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randomwiz - 42 days 11 hours ago

and yet, 2 out of the 3 staff members chose the ps3 version

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skv007 - 42 days 7 hours ago

yeah totally!
Have fun with Modern Warfare 2.. EXCLUSIVELY ON XBOX 360.
Oh wait.. -.-

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DK_Kithuni_71 - 42 days 11 hours ago

..the PS3 version looks a lot clearer and much better than the Xbox version.

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The Creep - 42 days 4 hours ago

yeah sure it does

(BIGGEST SARCASM)

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Bumpmapping - 42 days 18 hours ago

Hows that RROD 3sh!tty of yours?

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Double07 - 42 days 18 hours ago

Wow theres so much wrong with your comment in only a short space so im not even gonna bother trying to correct you or whatever. Im just gonna Lol.

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AliTheBrit19 - 42 days 17 hours ago

^^ Bumpmapping

Broken right now

But will be fixed within a few hours of getting MW2 so no worries, oh and to the guy above me, I would love to see you point out exactly what is wrong?..

No?...Too hard?....Don't worry nobody expects much :)

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Double07 - 42 days 17 hours ago

I dunno why Im bothering replying because pretty much everyone knows your a troll but i'll bite.

"The Xbox 360 also has the superior online, thanks to having an online service that WORKS, unlike PSN I'm afraid"

Its down for 3 hours/ 180 minutes and your saying it doesnt work full stop? Really? And if you actually sign in before the maintanence it doesnt even affect you. And if people are crying that they cant play the Multiplayer for 3 hours then they need to take a look at themselves.

"Exclusive DLC"

Its timed exclusive so wrong there, it could be timed for a week or months but personally I couldnt even care seen as I never buy map packs for any game and Im not even getting MW2 for a while.

"better loading times, looks MUCH better on the 360"

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

"Face it people, the BIGGEST game of 2009, is without a doubt Superior on the Xbox 360."

Who decides its the biggest game of 2009? You? The Media? The millions of sheep who will buy it because "Cod iz the bst game evar"

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AliTheBrit19 - 42 days 17 hours ago

^^ I'm barely a troll dude, not by the standards set on THIS website

What makes it the biggest game of the year? well I'll put aside pretty much every journalist in the industry thinking the same, and go with sales, yes sales, sales are the only fair thing, everything else is opinion, sales are cold hard facts and numbers, which cannot be denied.

And I go by what I know, COD4 and WaW on the PS3 for me where TERRIBLE, after every match I got an error and had to find a new match, on the 360 with the same connection set up never once had the problem, not to mention added things like the amazing party system.

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Double07 - 42 days 17 hours ago

Lol, alright I take back the troll comment especially when just looking at some of the comments in this article >.>

And I cant really say much about the problems you had with COD4 or Waw. For one I never even bothered with Waw and I havent played 4 for a loooong time.

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muDD - 42 days 16 hours ago

non-non-non-non-non-non-Factor !

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kaz-hirai - 42 days 16 hours ago

BU BU BU BU HALOZZZZZZZZZ AND GEARZZZZZZZZZ

Id rather play a clearler MW2 and play it online for free on PSN ;-D!!!!!

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