Controversial CoD: Modern Warfare 2 Video

CLANCY BROWN - 48 days 2 hours ago

The world has always been friggin violent.Death my friend is the only constant.The world has not been getting more violent just more efficient.Video Games, books , television, and movies are only a mirror.They do not cause violence- people cause violence. An adult should know this and not be looking for scapegoats.

I find it funny how a lot of people in here suddenly sound like jack thompson. Funny stuff indeed.

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TheReaper42 - 47 days 21 hours ago

are the PC guys invited in the crossplatform battles as well, or is that just too one sided :P

on topic: the only thing that differentiate the mass killings in GTA vs this scene, is that GTA has the popo's chasing after you. This scene, however, is just a pure killing spree with no punishment.

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ForTheFallen - 48 days 1 hour ago

I just hate the fact this is justified in the game...

ALL IN THE NAME OF A WAR ON TERROR, WE MUST BECOME TERRORISTS TO WIN.
KILLING GIVES LIFE.
SLAVERY IS FREEDOM.
FIGHTING BEGETS PEACE.

Reminds me of 9/11...Not to mention, Mumbai was also a fn inside job, but nobody wants to hear that...

And to the people saying this is just a game...No, it's not just a game. It is justifying shooting civilians. Does it matter that it's not real? And if you agree with it, you're so corrupt no one is going to change you but yourself.

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Baron79 - 48 days 18 hours ago

I couldn't agree more. I really don't care about the violence, its the type that it is. I don't mind slapping a hooker around in GTA, I just wouldn't want to do THAT (Airplane scene) in a video game...ever.

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rightdare - 48 days 18 hours ago

This is new ammo for that prick Lieberman, and his fight against video games. prick.

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Shogun Master - 48 days 18 hours ago

it because it looks so damn real. politicians will b!tch for sure.

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Rocket Sauce - 48 days 15 hours ago

Jesus Christ man, I've never felt so sick at the thought of a game. I know it sounds so cliche and lame, but these assholes aren't getting my money.

This isn't like GTA where violence is played off in a comedic way. It's all about how it's presented. Did you see that injured guy try to crawl away from the player? That's pretty disgusting.

I understand they're trying to create shock value, but encouraging YOU to mow down all those people is f'ed up and shameless.

How are they gonna top this? Are they going to put a school shooting level in Modern Warfare 3?

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SSS - 48 days ago

If you had you'd know the context, after you play the game you'll understand that part better....

Also you don't have to mow down any civilians you can just observe..... thats what i did. I shot randomly at the wall away from civies so i wouldn't look suspicous either.

But that scene was extremely disturbing, i wont deny that, but it serves its purpose and gets you to think.

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George Sears - 48 days 17 hours ago

Political correctness.... that's the bane of social expression.

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Cacolaco - 48 days 4 hours ago

Politically correct? Who cares about politically correct? Morality is the thing in question here.

Also, everyone keeps bringing up GTAIV. There were plenty of people, myself included, that wouldn't buy GTAIV because of its immorality. It's downright evil to even think about doing some of the things that are being done in these games. I'm not trying to say that I'm the perfect image of goodness here, but you have to draw the line somewhere, and I think it probably should have been drawn a while back.

If we can't get our kicks without killing innocents in games, then it's time to step away. Why should I be expected to get any enjoyment out of that? Everyone keeps saying, "It's just a game. Skip the level if you don't like it." It's all fun and games, right? What does that say about us?

For those of you who have kids, imagine your 5 year old son or daughter finding you playing this, and their reaction. They would think that the game was evil. What do you think they would think about you, in associating you with that evil? Would they be right? Would you honestly want to tell them that it's alright to murder helpless innocents, as long as they're just virtual?

"I'm just pretending to brutally kill all those nice people, honey."

All I'm saying, is I have a hard enough time explaining to my daughter why I would kill a deer in Oblivion. Even if we keep our children away from such games, we send a message of indifference and desensitization to this and future generations. We are telling them that we are okay with this sort of stuff.

You could tell yourself that the children will be protected from this kind of game; that they won't play it, and won't see others playing it, but you'd be lying to yourself. I have kids. I can't always protect them. Sometimes they see things I am trying to protect them from. I can try to explain to my children why terrorism happens in real life, and how evil it is. They still won't understand. How am I supposed to explain to them that it's evil when I'm pulling the trigger, even if it's virtual?

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Guntrol - 48 days 10 hours ago

Does it tell you how many you killed so you can replay and bit your score etc?

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Torkith - 48 days 17 hours ago

Militia VS Militia is acceptable.

Terrorist VS Civilians is not.

There really shouldn't be any extra need for explanation other than that.

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kraze07 - 48 days 16 hours ago

They're just hating on the game to hate. This really isn't anything new. I bet if there was a scene like this in Killzone where you played as the Helgan and you had to kill some civilians they wouldn't be "sick to their stomachs". Grow up people, it's just a game.

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Cacolaco - 48 days 3 hours ago

Yes, because grown ups can have fun simulating terrorism, right? Because we can get a kick out of realistic images of innocent unarmed people being brutally slaughtered by our own virtual hands, and it doesn't mean anything, right?

I suppose the "grown up" motto is "It's just a game. Have fun!"

Unfortunately, grown up isn't always the thing to be. In this case, we all ought to be a little more like little children. There's truth in what they see, and how they respond.

I'll have my fun playing something else, thank you. I'm not a perfect person, but at least I can attempt to display a little moral fiber.

Call me a killjoy.

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SIXAXISofEVIL - 48 days 16 hours ago

i imagine that's what they want. no such thing as bad press.

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kraze07 - 48 days 16 hours ago

Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki

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TooTall19 - 48 days 15 hours ago

It's only ok if the US is doing the killing I guess.

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Tru_Blu - 48 days 9 hours ago

kraze07 I love how you throw that out there. Read a history book A SHET TON more people would have died if they hadn't dropped those bombs. The Japanese were training women and children to use guns against the impending American invasion. Look at the casualties the Japanese were taking on islands already knowing they lost. They were brainwashed and thought that dying for the emperor was the greatest honor. Imagine if it's your kid that gets killed then you find out your government had a weapon that would have prevented your kid from dying and didn't use it. Not to mention the British killed more civilians in Dresden with the firebombing raid. Didn't see that mentioned.

Gish.. That is what I was getting at. Comparing a major war between 2 countries and trying to avoid a countries military to target civilians. America might not be perfect but they didn't drop nukes on Japan just to kill civilians or try and start a war.

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Gish - 48 days 9 hours ago

Once again WTF does this have to do with the US you idiots that want to make it that argument?? You act like Americans think its OK for civilians to be killed. THE TERRORISTS ARE SHOOTING RUSSIAN CIVILIANS! We don't think ANY civilians should be killed in cold blood. Your anti-American mindset has made you into a simpleton. You are probably the same people that cry foul about accidental civilian deaths in Iraq or Afghanistan but give terrorists a pass for cutting off civilians heads on camera or suicide bombing in a crowded market.

You all would rather climb in bed with monsters, just so you can trash the US.

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skagrerrrr - 48 days 2 hours ago

Remember the rape of Nanking, & all the atrocities the Japs did in the name of Hirohito.

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MariusElijah - 48 days 17 hours ago

cant wait to the see the backlash

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ProperFunked - 48 days 13 hours ago

at least the BGM throughout the entire game is pretty good

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Alvadr - 48 days 11 hours ago

The game looks awesome. I dont know why people are so desperate to put this game down in every way imaginable...

Its an awesome way to start the game and really sets the scene for the story... And thats what it is.. an effin story!!!

Youre playing the part of an undercover agent, You dont even have to kill the civilians, you can walk along and not fire your weapon once.. You are given a warning before the mission starts and you can skip it if your easily disturbed.

I dont know what is wrong with you people. You are quite happy to mow down pedestrians in GTAIV or shoot an innocent taxi driver in the face but when its in a different game all of a sudden its sick.

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SilentShank - 48 days 16 hours ago

Theres a fine line between portraying violence like this, and having the player control it...

I might sound like a mother of 3 or even worse Jack Thompson, but you have to admit, that there has to be kids out there, who are teetering on that edge of sanity, and if they even think that playing these scenarios out in a video game is ok... it could set them over that edge.

Not everyone in the world thinks logically, knowing that what they are playing is wrong, and while it does happen, it should never be recreated. This is a fact.

IW could have easily made this an unplayable, dramatic scene, complete with sad orchestral music and everything. This could have proven a better story telling method, portraying a strong message that the events unfolding are dreadful and sad. Urging you to push forward and defeat the terrorist.

They didn't and thats what makes this mission extremely distasteful.

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kraze07 - 48 days 16 hours ago

The fact that they let you play through this part is what makes it more dramatic and you have to remember this game is intended for mature gamers. If someone is influenced by something like this then I don't think the game is meant to be played by people like them.

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SilentShank - 48 days 15 hours ago

Having the player go through the scene does not make it more dramatic, it only makes it more controversial. IW KNOW this.

And of course this game is made for a mature audience. What you have to see is people who cannot understand this scene WILL play the game.

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kraze07 - 48 days 15 hours ago

"What you have to see is people who cannot understand this scene WILL play the game."

I see your point, but why should developers hold back on content just because there's a risk that some kid or mentally unstable person will play the game and do something crazy.

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Cacolaco - 48 days 3 hours ago

Suppose only one person out of 5 million (or whatever) plays this level and decides to do something similar as a result, but IW makes millions upon millions on the game, and a lot of people have fun. Would that justify even one death?

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CrippleH - 48 days 15 hours ago

But the undercover thing doesn't flow with real life. Why would a real undercover person kill innocent people just to not blow his cover. He's just as bad as those terrorist.

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Blackmoses - 48 days 7 hours ago

it's not like its required of you to pull the trigger.....
I don't believe it's required that you kill anyone during that scene. You can sit there and watch as the scene rolls out, or you can be the sick twisted soul and pull the trigger...

There is a choice. We freak out because the person playing is blasting away, but that scene is fully controlled by the player.....

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SilentShank - 48 days 17 hours ago

so... Russian civilians = bad guys?

Don't have kids.

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SARGEHALO666 - 48 days 17 hours ago

I could tell you why that mission happens, but that'd be a spoiler.

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CrippleH - 48 days 15 hours ago

That kind of went off as racist man.

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Gish - 48 days 9 hours ago

Russia and America aren't races. Just saying...

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ShinGundam - 48 days 5 hours ago

Good way to justify poor AI

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