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Valve's PSN Comments Disgusting ; Steam PS3 Campaign Opens

Justin D. of Neocrisis writes: "Only a few days after Gearbox's Randy Pitchford made comments about how Valve's stubbornness about PS3 development is only an excuse, it seems like Valve's answer to my question of whether they would prove either Randy or HipHopGamer right seems to sadly be the former answer.

CVG recently conducted an interview with Left 4 Dead project lead Chet Faliszek, and he made a comment that no one should ever make in the game industry about ANY community of gamers. This was aimed at the PS3 gamers, insulting them yet again by saying, "In hooking up with your friends and the community aspects, I think the Xbox 360 is head and shoulders above the PS3. The 360 and PC are on par, right?", and that Left 4 Dead 2 will be exclusive for that reason alone.

Never mind the fact that the community in Uncharted 2 seems to disprove Chet right "cheir", but it's also an amusing claim when you look at what the 360 community is made up of sometimes, and why Chet couldn't be any further from the truth, and should be fired for the comments. Meanwhile, we're going to do our part to make sure that Valve realizes their mistake...on Steam."
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Published: 49 days 9 hours ago | Article | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360 | PC
 
 

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PirateThom - 49 days 9 hours ago
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Valve don't have to make PS3 games if they don't want to, they're not in any kind of state where they need to.

It's the nonsense excuses that are the problem.

If they just admitted development on the PS3 platform is beyond them because they're too set in their PC ways, we'd all get along fine.
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kwyjibo - 49 days 9 hours ago
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They have admitted to that - multiple times - that they don't have the resources for PS3 development.

I think the issue for Sony fans though, is that they could easily hire one, they just choose not to.

It's their call really though, could probably spin it a bit better though.
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RememberThe357 - 49 days 9 hours ago
1.2 - Agreed
It's their arrogance and condescending attitude toward the PS3 and it's community that bother me.
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reintype - 49 days 9 hours ago
1.3 - I don't know, but I feel like MS has a hand in this...
I mean why continue pissing off a platform that maybe beneficial to you in the future, unless you do not want them to succeed. That's like burning your bridges, before you even cross it, which is insane.

Let's face it, with the way things are going with the PS3 right now because of the slim, it has gotten MS scared. It's not entirely impossible for them to use VALVE, a developer of great renown, to try and defame the PS3 and stop it's momentum, and sway them to the 360, without anyone pointing an accusing finger directly at them.

If they could do it with the media, I wouldn't be surprise, if they can do it with a developer. Specially if those devs, has past ties with them.
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madpuppy - 49 days 9 hours ago
1.4 - @kwyjibo, they shouldn't say they don't have the resources, what they need to say is
They don't have the programming acumen to develop for the PS3 platform and if they tried they would end up releasing an inferior product.

Valve just needs to admit it's lack of ability and be done with it.
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sikbeta - 49 days 8 hours ago
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But guys, why you care about them, you make this crap more important than It really is, move on there is nothing to do with them and their respective ignorance
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kwyjibo - 49 days 7 hours ago
1.6 - Re: madpuppy
Valve are rolling in money, if they really wanted to hire a PS3 team, they could do it in a heartbeat.

It's clearly just that they don't want to do it.
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moparful99 - 49 days 7 hours ago
1.7 - Forked tongue...
Its funny to me how nobody has seen it before but microsoft is essentially getting away with slander. Think for a minute of all the times that microsoft affiliated media outlets as well as developers and internal sources come out and take these "sly" jabs at sony. Why would they go to such means? To hurt sony's bottom line, to have a financial impact by spreading false information. Slander 101 folks but yet everyone turns a deaf ear. These recent attack by the likes of turn 10, bobby kotick, and of course gabe and his rag tag team have become increasingly brazen as if testing the waters. I think sony needs to slam M$ with a lawsuit the likes with which they've never seen... What do you guys think?
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DaTruth - 49 days 5 hours ago
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It's not like Valve was just not making games on PS3 and there were PS3 fanboy blogs caring to ask why or beg; These guys just started badmouthing the PS3 and putting out stupid reasons why they don't want to.

Now 360 fanboys say PS3 owners are shedding tears. Nobody cares until they open their fat foaming mouths and start spitting off at PS3 and owners of it!

WE HAVE 20 SOMETHING FIRST PARTY DEVELOPERS PRODUCING GAMES FOR US; WE DON'T NEED YOU!!!

However 360 is in desperate need of some games. I suggest Valve focus on them! They're likely to buy any piece of crap just so they have a reason to turn on their console besides Netflix!
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madpuppy - 49 days 3 hours ago
1.9 - @kwyjibo, If so...
They have some "problem" with Sony and the PS3. And because of that, what they are saying makes it worse!

They are lame excuses rather than a legitimate technical reason for their disdain.

And Because of that it is even more justified to call them out about this situation.
Don't make lame excuses! Say that you don't like the PS3 and be honest Why.

This reminds me when Valve made a deal with ATI when Half Life 2 was released,all of a sudden Valve was badmouthing Nvidia. instead of just keeping their mouth shut like every other company that makes a deal with another company. they just couldn't help themselves. they are like a mercenary jerk with bi-polar syndrome.
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Consoldtobots - 48 days 22 hours ago
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@ mopar, I've been saying the same thing since about a year into the release of the PS3. Alot of this FUD, paid for journalists,websites and publications on the part of MS and their glorious philosophy when it comes to competition borders on if it isn't outright ANTITRUST practices. IMO Sony is kinda lame for not slamming MS nuts in a vice with a massive antitrust lawsuit. It's not like MS's hands are clean in this regard.MS has every right to compete in this industry but not at th expense of one it's biggest innovators and leaders.
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Pennywise - 49 days 9 hours ago
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What an entertaining read. Valve is doing nothing but missing money from Ps3 owners. They are not assuring the 360 victory... just pissing off potential customers.
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ArmrdChaos - 49 days 6 hours ago
2.1 - So...
You would say the same for all the pro-Sony developers only doing projects for the PS3? Granted...Valve has said some stupid stuff but I don't see any of those other single console studios getting raked over the coals by the fanbase and lectured on how they are loosing out on more money. Kind of hypocritical don't you think?
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badz149 - 49 days 5 hours ago
2.2 - @Armrdchaos
but you don't hear any of those dev who prefer the PS3 saying "360 is crap!" or "360 community is crap!" like valve! - they just said something like "can't be done on 360" etc! never ever crap on gaming community, because you'll be calling for rage!
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DaTruth - 49 days 5 hours ago
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How would developers who are owned by Sony have anything to gain by making 360 games???

Please think before you type!

Having more games than 360 is how Sony sell more consoles than them every year! "Bu, bu, but, teh 4 mil lead!!!" Which is not equal to the 33% longer 360 has been on market!
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The Lazy One - 49 days ago
2.4 - @DaTruth
Where are you getting this 4 million number?

Both companies released their numbers last month and it was still between 6-7 million.
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Pandamobile - 49 days 9 hours ago
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For the first time, I actually disagree with what Valve is saying. Chet's an ass.

Valve needs to stick to PC. None of this console bullshit.
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OpenGL - 49 days 8 hours ago
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Agreed; if it weren't for the 360, it's likely we'd have Episode 3 instead of Left 4 Dead 2 this November.
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evrfighter - 49 days 8 hours ago
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While I do enjoy watching ps3 fanboys cry, whine, rant and rave. I agree they could have said the 360 community is heads and shoulders above ps3's in a more "subtle" way.
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Pandamobile - 49 days 7 hours ago
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Or compare the 360 community to Steam.
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DaTruth - 49 days 4 hours ago
3.4 - @Evrfighter
Strange that your on here every day crying, whining, ranting and raving about how PS3 fanboys cry, whine, rant and rave!

"Oh teh PS3 fanboys are teh worst, that is why I come back here day after day to listen to teh crying!"
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evrfighter - 49 days 1 hour ago
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actually your right. I do go on about how much I hate ps3 fanboys..lol

but anyone who visits n4g regularly already knows that...

:)
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PELVIC THRUST ACTION - 49 days 9 hours ago
4 - Chet.
Wipe your butt. Or your face. Crap is coming from either that or the other orifice.
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Socomer 1979 - 49 days 9 hours ago
5 - i would love to see this man and others be fired.
he's basically fabricating falsehoods about my psn gamers.
valve wants to pick a fight then a fight they ll get. .
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Towers76 - 49 days 9 hours ago
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Why is every Valve guy they show a pic of so, so fat? They must be making money hand over fist to have gotten so, so fat. It must be nice for them in this down, bleak economy...
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PELVIC THRUST ACTION - 49 days 9 hours ago
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It's a requirement to be fat if you work at Valve. Otherwise how the hell do you have the yearly FAT OFF contest to see who is KING LARDBOY?
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Towers76 - 49 days 9 hours ago
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I see...it makes sense now. Well no doubt they'll be getting even fatter this holiday season when L$D2, whoops I mean L4D2 (sorry I held the shift key a little too long there) sells a couple million copies which they can then follow up with some dlc to milk. Perhaps Valve wishes to keep from making any money from the PS3 audience to prevent too much fattening. It may be that their offices might not be able to sustain so much girth before crumbling. On a related note, it makes me glad that Borderlands is doing so well. I saw Randy Pitchford in video interview the other day and I have to say that poor man needs to eat! He's too skinny!
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sikbeta - 49 days 8 hours ago
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Thanks to both of you, make this article more enjoyable XD
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RAZORLAND - 49 days 6 hours ago
6.4 - @ Towers76
lol That was the nail on the head.
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TheBand1t - 49 days 9 hours ago
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I wish I had as glorious a chinbeard as that man.
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Vicophine - 49 days 9 hours ago
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-Uninstalls Steam-
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 49 days 9 hours ago
8.1 - Wow...
That's not a bad idea. A massive Steam deletion. Let's do it!

EDIT: Because Valve needs to know.
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PELVIC THRUST ACTION - 49 days 9 hours ago
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Why? The only thing that does is cause MOAR STEAM.
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evrfighter - 49 days 8 hours ago
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Here is a quote by Leon 4 hours ago

"ll of a sudden, one of the most respected developers in the industry is the bad guy...

...because humans like "mob action". Anything where they rebel against "the man" is cool, I guess. Lols. Shut up and buy the game ya losers.

Dedicated servers or not, the online will be extremely solid. You know it will. You just want to be "cool".

Grow up. "

read his comment above...then this

I'll let you come to your own conclusion.
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CyberCam - 49 days 7 hours ago
8.4 - PWNED!!
Hypocrite much there Leon? LOL! (I actually remember reading that post!)

+1 evrfighter
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unrealgamer58 - 49 days 9 hours ago
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how would they know about our (ps3) community when they never (themselves) developed a game for the ps3? lmao
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mike223 - 49 days 9 hours ago
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They actually did developed the orange box for PS3 and I think that's what killed there PS3 developing experience. But that's no excuse for boycotting the PS3 especially since it is the most powerful console on the market right now. So far, multiplatform games in 2009 have been just as good as the 360 games. Valve is just stubborn.
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 49 days 9 hours ago
9.2 - No
EA did the Orange Box PS3 port...not Valve.

EA said they wanted to port L4D to PS3 too, but Valve wouldn't let them.

Even though it wasn't the BEST port...the fact that they did it for PS3 gamers gains respect from me.

Isn't it weird that EA is stepping back into the light as a "good" publisher/developer?

BF:BC2 and Dead Space anyone?
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Ninjamonkey - 49 days 9 hours ago
9.3 - EA
Has been quite good recently actually.

Burnput paradise was a hit, BF: BC is a great game and NFS looks like it might have a come back too.
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gumgum99 - 49 days 8 hours ago
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I agree. EA is...actually not that bad anymore.
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Godmars290 - 49 days 9 hours ago
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Way to build PS3 fan interest Valve...
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DiffusionE - 49 days 9 hours ago
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As much as I love Valve, they should return to their silent ways. If they don't want to develop for the PS3, they should just say so. All their bullc**p excuses and bad-mouthing the PSN isn't gonna help matters.
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SADIST - 49 days 9 hours ago
12 - You know what's funny?
The guy who wrote this article is upset and is voicing his opinion on the Valve's developer comments, while insulting Chet. He is calling the Chet all kind of insulting names and saying PS3 this and PS3 that. And you know something? The Valve guy probably doesn't give a crap what this guy thinks because he is will never meet him in person. Also he is the project lead so I don't think some random guy's comments are going to faze him. I mean come on, let's say I'm the project lead and some dude says "You are stupid and should be fired." If I even had the time to read some random dude's comments I would say, "yeah but I'm the project lead. What are you?"
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v1c1ous - 49 days 9 hours ago
13 - i honestly believe
that you guys are making a mountain out of an ant hill.
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solar - 49 days 9 hours ago
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pretty much. but any criticism of the Ps3 ends up with a sh1t storm.
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Godmars290 - 49 days 9 hours ago
13.2 - @solar
Except this time its a criticism of PS3 users. People who use the console Valve has no apparent want to build on, yet talk about anyway.
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solar - 49 days 9 hours ago
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eh
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Godmars290 - 49 days 8 hours ago
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He probably should have used words like "community support" instead of just "community." The specific community in question might just take that a bit personally.

Taken the possible right way Valve's saying they don't want to get their hands dirty with PSN's infrastructure. That its too difficult to work with.

Valve could be respected if they just said they don't want to make games on the PS3. That everything but that is coming out their mouths is why they're losing it towards people they're ignoring. Something that's only going to bite them in the @$$ should they ever try to make a PS3 game.
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CyberCam - 49 days 7 hours ago
13.5 - @Godmars290
I don't believe Valve will ever make a game for the PS3, their Source engine ports horribly to the PS3.

I don't mind them not making games for the PS3, it's no big deal. However, insulting the PSN community because they can not make games for the PS3 is not a very smart or mature thing to do. They don't sound like the most intelligent bunch.

All they have to say is "we prefer to make games only for the PC & 360" and everyone accepts it and moves on... just like you said.
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Godmars290 - 49 days 6 hours ago
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I don't care if they ever make a PS3 game either just wish they'd stop talking crap about it, and now the people who use it.
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