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Will Halo: Reach match the graphical quality of Killzone 2?

VGarabia.com: Halo: Reach is shaping up to be the best looking Halo game ever, but Will Bungie finally back its amazing gameplay with powerful visuals? Will Halo: Reach replace Gears of War franchise as the best looking exclusive on Xbox 360?

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Unending Punishment - 51 days 12 hours ago

0.1 - Halo Reach will not match Killzone 2's graphics quality...

It will will shatter it. Guerrilla will be put to shame.

edit: disagree with this statement and then the opposite of my title is what you're agreeing to ;)

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guitarded77 - 52 days 14 hours ago

1 - Will Halo: Reach match the graphical quality of Killzone 2?

Hahahahahahahahaha.... NO!

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DK_Kithuni_71 - 52 days 11 hours ago

1.1 - There is no way any game on the Xbox 360..

..will match the graphical quality of Killzone 2. Will even be a tough one for PS3 games to match too.

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves is a fantastic game in my view. A perfect 10/10 in my book. Great graphics. But even that game has not matched Killzone 2 in graphics. Killzone is truly second to none in graphics. The attention to detail is almost ridiculous.

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Darkstorn - 52 days 10 hours ago

1.2 -

@2.1-
I agree wholeheartedly. Killzone 2 is, and will continue to be, the reigning console graphics champion. Only Heavy Rain has a chance to dethrone it, IMO.

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badz149 - 52 days 9 hours ago

1.3 - HR looks great but there's something about the animations that really bugs me

the movements of the characters look 'plastic' or shall I say 'blocky'!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

- when spinning his kid
- when he jumps in front of the car

the movement of characters in Uncharted 2 and KZ2 looks more natural and fluid IMO! I hope QD can improve on that matter by the time of release!

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Alcon Caper - 52 days 14 hours ago

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They're so dissimilar. Halo is rich with bright colors, while KZ has a more apocalyptic atmosphere. I'd love to see the new engine in action. Really, that's the best and only way to make a valid comparison.

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Chubear - 52 days 11 hours ago

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We aren't talking about scenery we're talking about graphical fidelity. What, it's hard to see KZ2 totally slaughters Halo3 graphically cause the scenery is different? I don't understand that.

GT5 and Spec ops are two totally different genres but I can clearly see with my own eyes the graphics in GT5 are miles beyond those in Spec ops.

Also, Killzone 1 had a wide variety of colour palettes but it was a natural palette not something that looked like you opened up a box of fruit loops. KZ3 will have the same environments as KZ1 so expect to see the Edge Engine pwn.

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StuffRokz - 52 days 10 hours ago

2.2 - nobody

is denying that Killzone 2 slaughters Halo 3 visually. anyone can see it does. i believe all Alcon is trying to say (i could be terribly wrong) is that we haven't seen the new engine in action so it's pointless to make graphical comparisons at this point in time. And even when we get that HD direct video, the different color styles may make it even more difficult to gauge which looks better.

if you're talking polygon counts or anti-aliasing or other technical terms, then yes it will be easy to tell when direct footage of Reach is out and there will be a right and wrong answer. but if you're talking about what people think look good just by looking at it, you're going to get more varied opinions because of their preference, and the question of 'which looks better' won't have such a straightforward answer when put in front of the average joe who knows nothing of AA or anisotropic filtering or Vsync or any of those other terms.

kinda went on my old tangent there lol. as for me, i think Killzone 2 was one of the best looking games i ever played, if a little lacking on the color palette, but since they wanted it to have that look it's all good. as for Halo Reach, i won't play it questioning whether it looks better than Killzone 2, i'm gonna see how much of an improvement it is over Halo 3.

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DaTruth - 51 days 17 hours ago

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Not seeing a damn thing after 3 years of developing one of the most popular games of all time, should tell us something. Halo:Reach will sell ridiculous millions, they might feel that showing the game could only hurt their sales!

Killzone 2 created hype by showing the insane graphics it has! And please don't say it was overhyped, because the only hype was the graphics and if anything it was underhyped in that respect(nothing could prepare us for that).

I say, just get something of what made Halo:CE such a great game into this game and you can count on my purchase of Halo:Reach and a 360 console!

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Eddy Raja - 52 days 14 hours ago

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Killzone 2 has something something that halo series doesn't have,that is immersion.With the realistic controls and the atmosphere combined in KZ2, no other fps make you feel like you're in a war bigger than yourself.

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mal_tez92 - 52 days 9 hours ago

3.1 - Killzone 2 = Immersion

Especially if you turn off all HUD

What does it for me is the feel of the guns. The shooting gameplay in Killzone 2 is way better than any other game. The feel while aiming and shooting makes it the most satisfying FPS ever.

The only bad things I can say is that guns are too weak and that you can't aim down the sight with the shotgun. Apart from that it is the greatest FPS ever.

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Fishy Fingers - 52 days 14 hours ago

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I doubt it, while you may prefer the style of Halo Reach I don't know if it will be as technically impressive as KZ2. Nothing on the consoles is.

Still, it all remains to be seen, we've only got a few crap off screen shots of an early build, you really cant judge squat from that, let alone a finished game.

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jerethdagryphon - 52 days 7 hours ago

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3 parts of graphics
geometry: this is the lowest thsi is the polygons that maek the world the guns the chars, this is what at a primium, whyile the amout they can use goes up each year , to much geomerty means you cant run animatiosn smooth and other thing

textures this covers the polygon and makes it the color you see, but flat
normal map, this maps the surface of a high detail gorignal model and uses that to fake extra geomery something halo and gear use to an imense amount
alpha deals with transpacence an reflection does that it say

shaders. alow you to manipulate lighting and color on a much finer basis aloweing greater facial effects and detail

uc 2 had higher geomerty and lower normal map usage for basi things

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knowledge4lfe - 52 days 6 hours ago

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jereth, i'm sorry but please go back to school and learn how to spell.that was horrible. i honestly couldn't understand what the hell you were writing

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DaTruth - 51 days 16 hours ago

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It's called ESL(English as a Second Language). If it bothers you so much, go to News4AmericanGamers!

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alaa - 52 days 14 hours ago

5 - The author is saying nothing has touched Killzone 2

lighting and particle effects this generation. That's true

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George Sears - 52 days 12 hours ago

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The lightning on KZ2 is ridiculous. Really something to admire.

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raztad - 52 days 11 hours ago

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Multiple Small Lighting sources is KZ2's main strength. It incredibly helps the atmosphere of the game. Really impressive tech there, nothing can touch that. UC2 lightning pales in comparison (a single global lightning).

Regarding Halo vs KZ2 visuals, I doubt it, but I dont think Bungie is capable/need to push that much the xbox hardware. ODST got away with such outdated visuals, they always can do it again.

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cmrbe - 52 days 11 hours ago

5.3 - Lighting and particle effects

Explosions, smoke, fire. Everything feels real. Very very immersive game. Play warzone last night and its a mad house in redec. Sh1t happening all over the place and wit no lag or frame rate drops.

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moparful99 - 52 days 10 hours ago

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My first playthrough of kz2 SPOILER!!! (if you havent played kz2 and plan on it do not read on... You've been warned) when I got to the part where visari sets off the nuke it took my breath away. It felt so damn real and was actually kind of frightening. But as you progressed towards his palace embers and charred debris flittered around you and gave alot of depth to the atmosphere.. I still get goosebumps thinking about it..Also the deep reds and oranges gave serious undertones to what was at stake....

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DaTruth - 51 days 16 hours ago

5.5 - @Moparful99

"Bu, bu, but, teh Killzone 2 is only greys and browns"

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moparful99 - 50 days 3 hours ago

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@ above brown is the new red havent you heard?? lol

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bmatthews - 52 days 13 hours ago

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Just another degenerate article with absolutely no basis or point of discussion. Complete and utter flamebait if I ever saw one.

Also, KZ2? let's see if it reaches Uncharted 1 visuals first.

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TROLL EATER - 52 days 13 hours ago

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halo will atleast have multi colour and most likely will surpass KZ2 graphics

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DarkArcani - 52 days 11 hours ago

7.1 - Really Now??

*looks at your name*...oh, never mind, that explains everything.

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moparful99 - 52 days 10 hours ago

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So wat your saying is that if kz2 was set in a spring time valley with rainbows and flowers the graphics would be better? Limiting a color pallette allows the developer to create a mood or atmosphere. We as humans respond to color in emotional ways therefore in kz2's case the lack of bright colors lent a sense of distress and uneasiness.. It was a very unfamiliar feeling which gave the game tension and kept the player emersed. I really like how the only source of bright colors were things of sybolism. The helgast's bright red eyes, their insignia, flames, explosions, and light sources.. Color is only part of the equation therefore your comment equals fail.

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unrealgamer58 - 52 days 13 hours ago

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killzone would beat halo reaches ass, steal it's money, use the money to take its girlfriend out, knock her up and make halo reach raise it................... in a metaphoric sense lol.

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guitarded77 - 52 days 13 hours ago

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Bubbles for you, you made me laugh while suffering the last hour at work on Friday.

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Socomer 1979 - 52 days 12 hours ago

9 - where do they grow these journalist?

a xbox 360 game matching a ps3 exclusive in development quality?
first thought: LOLOUDER!

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i3eyond the Circle - 52 days 12 hours ago

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If your asking N4G...NO.

If your living in reality.....who knows.

There has been no vids just some crappy blurred out screenshots.

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00 - 52 days 12 hours ago

10.1 -

that's all that needs to be said.

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Optical_Matrix - 52 days 11 hours ago

11.1 -

It felt that way because it's realistic lol And besides you can turn sensitivity up and down to your liking.

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cyclindk - 52 days 11 hours ago

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Surprisingly, the mech gameplay was some of the most fluid... more than the infantry combat (before the patch at least).

All they need to adjust now is weapon recoil where it concerns the effect it has on the flight path of the bullet

Character 'weight,' still a bit too heavy.

SMG is too stiff

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DarkArcani - 52 days 11 hours ago

11.3 - I can deny it.

You don't like it, that's cool. Just don't say that your opinion is everyone's opinion. I don't like arcade racers, but I don't say that everyone agrees they suck.

I liked the gameplay because it separates its self from other FPS.

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Ghostsmoker - 52 days 11 hours ago

11.5 - The gameplay ...

in Killzone 2 is far away from boring. If u don't have the skills don't blame the gameplay/controls.

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silvacrest - 52 days 11 hours ago

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WTF are you people talking about? the gameplay was fine to me, perhaps some of you are to used to arcady gameplay from COD or halo

(which is why im glad my play time with both were limited)

when master chief jumps it feels like gravity is distorted for a second and moving marcus from gears feels like driving a tank yet you dont hear complaints about either and people play them and enjoy both
so leave the "sluggish" gameplay thing out

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yorkie - 52 days 11 hours ago

11.8 - Killzone 2

Is the most fun I've had in a shooter ever, you may not have enjoyed the game and that's fine, but come on now, to say 'nobody can deny the boring gameplay' is a little churlish. That game is the most immersive, intense and gratifying experience I have had on a console to date, the game is spectacular both in gameplay, level design, enemy AI, graphics and the best use of the six axis to date.

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tripewire - 52 days 10 hours ago

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I put a new hard drive in and still haven't gone online with KZ2 since, just because the game to me feels better before the update. It might just be me, but it seems to look better too.

And no, maybe they will be able to get screenshots that look as good as KZ2, but they will not be able to build a game that works, and feels like KZ2.

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moparful99 - 52 days 10 hours ago

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@aliens again your opinion of the controls and gameplay are yours but your asking for trouble coming on here and trying to pass it off as fact.. If you want fact, I loved the game and the controls but you do not which means people with similar tastes as my own will probably like this game. Thanks for your input but you arent changing my opinion of the game sorry.. Oh and YORKIE im gonna have to disagree with you on the sixaxis controls.. I feel that the sixaxis implementation in warhawk was far and above the best and remains so until this date. You may disagree with me but the satisfaction of mastering the sixaxis in that game is one of the reasons i fell in love with my ps3..

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yorkie - 51 days 23 hours ago

11.11 - moparful99

LOL...I could never fly the damn Warhawks with the six axis, infact if I'm being honest I pretty much suck at flying Warhawks, but put me in a tank or APC and I'm like a man possessed.....I know the scale of six axis usage in Killzone 2 was on a lower level to Warhawk but to have any movement of the controller effect your aim when sniping was for me a masterful and most welcome addition to the gameplay.

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DaTruth - 51 days 16 hours ago

11.12 - Killzone 2 had very good graphics.

But nobody can deny my opinion!

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Qbanj69 - 52 days 12 hours ago

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At least theyre not using the 'Paint' engine that Wii uses.

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Relientk77 - 52 days 11 hours ago

13 - No

Gears of War will keep the crown

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The BS Police - 52 days 11 hours ago

14 - Atleast...

It will have color... unlike Killzone 2.

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jleack - 52 days 11 hours ago

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You clearly don't get it. I guess that argument applies to the best-looking game on the X360, right? Gears of War 2 rings a bell.

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FwanK - 52 days 11 hours ago

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Sure...

A lot of purple and more purple

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steck67 - 52 days 11 hours ago

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Perhaps too much color? Halo 3 reminded me of Go! Go! Powerangers

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skeletonss - 52 days 11 hours ago

1 - haha

n4g is so dumb.

a bunch of little boy pissed of geeks.

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ZBlacktt - 52 days 11 hours ago

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Blu-ray > DVD is the simple answer. No matter the game title. A Blu-ray disc allows dev's to go wild. A DVD is so limited.

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Boty - 52 days 11 hours ago

3 - No.

;-D

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NecrumSlavery - 52 days 10 hours ago

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I think Halo Reach will have the graphics of a more polished Portal. Less fuzzy/Jaggy but Killzone has set the bench mark so high, I'm wondermg more so what Killzone 3 will be like at 1080p and 60fps

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Ramses3 - 52 days 10 hours ago

5 - Well......

NO.
Not in Xbox 360's lifetime will they make a 360 game that looks better then Killzone 2, or Uncharted, and definatly not Heavy Rain.

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MichaelJackson - 52 days 10 hours ago

6 - In your dreams Xbox fanboys. Stop being in denial.

It's going to be on 2-3 disks and matching Uncharted 1 graphics. It's going to over max the 360, so expect more RROD repairs :)

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godslayer429 - 52 days 10 hours ago

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NO

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silverchode - 52 days 9 hours ago

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it wont look the same but it'll probably be more colourful

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NecrumSlavery - 52 days 8 hours ago

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The emo purple that nearly all 360 games seems to be washed out in?

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keysy420 - 52 days 9 hours ago

9 - this is bullsh1t

I'm tired of these articles back before the ps3 and xbox 360 were on the market. I did a report in college on both systems and almost predicted exactly what would happen through out the years of the cycle, besides for the slow sales of ps3.still the important thing are the specs that were listed, even back then Microsoft posted stats that their system was not built for Television supporting 1080p the system would run native 720p and do 1080io output. A year after the ps3 dropped, the setting to play the 360 in 1080 p was added to the 360. Its not true 1080p its just upscaled, so these articles of the 360 matching the ps3 in graphics and physics quality is just bonkers. The ps3 isn't even maxed out because the hardware is still new (3yrs). It took to 6 to 7 yrs on the ps2 to make god of war graphics. The 360 is now using different software to run their system called the x-enigine great! We should from this point on seeing all games on 360 running in true 720p, unscaled to 1080p still. But no more call of duty in sub hd, so this x engine is good for the ps3 as well.
Ps3 specs have always been stated that the system runs in hd which is the reason for the blu-ray format. If Hd format isn't need to get the best out of anything hd. why did Toshiba and Microsoft need a add-on. hd format is needed to achieve true hd graphics. once again relating to hardware vrs software. no matter what the 360 does it will never have the hardware to reach what the ps3can do.

sony programers aren't the best from what we know, so that leave alot of headroom. Or they are excatly the opposite and their is more potential with the system than we know. still halo needs to be on the next gen xbox to compete with the ps3 physics and graphics wise. one has to give, either the physics wont be the best and the graphics are unbelievable (forza 3) or the graphics are ok but the controls are great (halo 3).

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twintipskis34 - 52 days 6 hours ago

10 - hahahaa raped

Killzone 2 whoopdy f#$kin doo. Ps3 can try all they want to kill halo, but they will always FAIL. just look at the sales figures...RAPED. Killzone 2 wont come close. Who gives a s#$t if halo looks A LITTLE worse than killzone graphically, there will still be 23094203948023984 more people playing halo online than there will be your precious lame ass PSN

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weazel - 51 days 13 hours ago

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Like you'd know what the fu*k you're talking about junior. All this "raped" sh*t when to be honest, you're about 5 years too young to know what the fu*k you're talking about. Stop trying to act grown up before someone hands your ass to you in a jug.

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newarknj360 - 52 days 3 hours ago

11 - uncharted who?

people understand 1 thing, 360 outperform ps3 graphically in 3rd party games the x engine is real and it will blow people away when its finally revealed im telling u from what is known 360 is a beast

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jumped out - 52 days 1 hour ago

12 - Cod4 put Halo3's graphics to shame

in just a couple of months after its release.They should focus on trying to match the graphics in Cod4 before going for Killzone2 graphics.

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achira - 52 days 1 hour ago

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lol kz2 pisses on any halo. bots are really desperate.

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nutbear96 - 51 days 23 hours ago

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I don't think Gears has that good graphics but Halo: Reach HAS NO CHANCE of having better graphics than Killzone 2. It's a fact that no Xbox 360 game will look better than Killzone 2 unless Kojima Productions do something realing amazing with MGS: Rising (I keep wanting to call it Raiden). Maybe an Xbox 720 will have better graphics than Killzone 2 but NO Xbox 360 game will have better graphics.

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piramides30 - 51 days 23 hours ago

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Gaylo Reach Vs Killzone 2 = FAIL

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ULTIMATE_REVENGE - 51 days 19 hours ago

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The day they try to achieve KZ2's graphics is the day everything else on the screen disappears including enemies, viechels, gunfire, smoke effects and many many other objects and landmarks.

This is the limit of the 360 and here's where the 7 SPU's of the PS3 jump in.

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XBLGT B1GMACNFR1ES - 51 days 19 hours ago

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shame developer can only use 5 of those for in game

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DJ - 51 days 19 hours ago

17 - Nothing on the 360 has matched Killzone 2 so far

Despite the one year head start in game development. Hell, most of its games don't even match Uncharted 1 in terms of quality and graphical prowess.

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Mc187 - 51 days 13 hours ago

18 - " Reach is shaping up to be the best looking Halo game ever,"

LOL

That's like being the smartest kid in a special ed classroom.

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spektical - 51 days 13 hours ago

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lol in a word, no. In our CS GD class wer using 360 GPU and ps3 CPU and the ps3 processessor is a million times better. We are currently calculating the processor in terms of its power. In short the 360 has almost been maxed out, we figured out that certain code can be compiled into smaller bits, but the same goes for the ps3; however ps3 hasn't been maxed out even with U2 and KZ2

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