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Left 4 Dead project lead Chet Faliszek has said the 360 community is "head and shoulders above the PS3", and that's why the multiplayer-focused Left 4 Dead series isn't on Sony's console.
Speaking to CVG Faliszek said the community aspects of the PC and Xbox platforms "really fit" Left 4 Dead - so it's not coming out on PS3.
"Right now for Left 4 Dead 2 we're looking at PC and 360 because the community aspects really fit the game - it's all about playing with your friends," he said.
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blackpanther25
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1 - People Say the ps3 doesn't come with mics thats why
but the Pc doesn't come with a mic as well. You still have to go out and buy it. Steam doesn't have cross game chat(at least what i know of)
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Jamescagney
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Tbh I just want another HL out of them, either the third episode or HL3, I'm not concerned with wether it comes to ps3 or 360 I just want more. And now.
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PELVIC THRUST ACTION
- 47 days 23 hours ago
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2.1 - well knowing valve
You gotta wait fifteen or twenty years for Half Life 3. Maybe another 1-5 years for Episode 3.
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Jamescagney
- 47 days 23 hours ago
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Yeah, I know. My concern with Valve isn't on what platform it makes games on but on how long it takes to produce the games. Episodic gaming was supposed to be bitesized gaming done more frequently.
It hasn't happened.
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Draicus
- 47 days 23 hours ago
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And they would know, because of all of the support they've put into all of their numerous PS3 titles.
Oh wait, that's right, they refuse to make PS3 games because they can't program for the Cell. Whoops.
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Jamescagney
- 47 days 23 hours ago
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It's not that they can't they just don't want to. Ever been forced to do something you don't want to? Not nice is it?
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infekt
- 47 days 21 hours ago
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Ever not have the knowledge to do something? Yeah.. its kinda makes you feel small, doesn't it? And the defence mechanism? Lets see.. how about pushing the blame. Hmm. That would work.
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flipm725
- 47 days 23 hours ago
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4 - Valve<Sony
Valve are nothing but 360/PC fanboys. Forget them. This dude acts like there's no friends list on PS3...wow dude, just wow.
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Pennywise
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Milk that source engine. At least they know the only fanbase that will buy it head over shoulders rather than the PS3 owners.
Ps3 owners are now spoiled. We want games that have an engine made in modern days.
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-MoOkS-
- 47 days 21 hours ago
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wow, you are really cut by this arent you. hahahaha
valve, one of the legendary developers, proves ps3 isnt as good as 360
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Pennywise
- 47 days 21 hours ago
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Just because Joe Montana is a legendary quarterback does not mean he can compete with the new breeds.
Valve have proven to be lazy and a little too over-confident for me.
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Ares84PS3
- 47 days 23 hours ago
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6 - BS is BS
I can recognize fanboys when I see them
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PELVIC THRUST ACTION
- 47 days 23 hours ago
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7 - And the biggest irony is
Microsoft will never let them put free updates or mods yet the PS3 will let them do as many updates or as many mods and free user support for mods yet they're too damn stupid to realize that Microsoft is neutering them.
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RayRay36
- 47 days 23 hours ago
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8 - Really?
So playing with 12 year olds high as a kite off Monster is better? Get a grip. This guy is almost as bad as Bobby C***head.
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Grandreaper9999
- 47 days 23 hours ago
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I'm sure that Valve porting their pc games to 360 is as easy as dropping a wad. They are not a little company, yet Gabe went on record saying they don't have the resources for ps3 development. Like anyone could believe that, coming from a long-time ex-MS employee.
While I agree that Live has a the stronger image of a better community, the "community" is hardly the issue here. If they're going to be like that, they might as well just be a first party dev for MS. Then everyone wouldn't have such a problem with them.
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Crystallis
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But you know whats funny, I dont think a lot of ps3 users are interested in L4D. I know im not.
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One more thought, they do know that they could create a fancy home space for L4D, as well as have their own store on PSN where they could introduce some of their Steam products? They could even have PS3/PC gamers play together.
I understand Live has more numbers, but there is equal opportunity for them to make money on both online services. It doesn't make much sense really, for an "independent" dev to be so against making more money.
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- 47 days 22 hours ago
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i see the pitchforks and torches are out again. /yawn.
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13 - for many other developers this would be a new low....for the mediocrity that is valve this is just a new medium.
L4D is not really any good, so is ok to half a$$ it when it comes to that piece of crap game.
for many other developers to blame the PSN Comunity would be a new low....for the mediocrity that is valve this is just a new medium.
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jleack
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Valve can kiss my butt. I downloaded the L4D2 demo 3 days ago and was bored within the first run through. They aren't good enough to be talking smack like that.
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Jamescagney
- 47 days 22 hours ago
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You are probably the most boring person on this site. Nothing to do with this article, you just are completely boring.
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The Round Peg
- 47 days 22 hours ago
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15 - Valve can afford to NOT make games for the PS3
They're making sh!tload of money off Steam.
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likedamaster
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Well said. That's all.
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Hudahudahuda
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That's pretty funny. I guess all 53 of the people on my friends list don't actually exist. Also the people that get kicked off socom for not having mics don't exist either. And all those levels in LBP were just randumbly generated.
That's fine by me though since the left4dead series doesn't interest me much. This excuse won't work with episode 3 so I hope it does come to PS3.
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Arnon
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17 - Figures...
Everybody is going apesh*t over this, and yet, they obviously know it's the truth when they're acting so irrational. PSN has maybe 30-40% playing with a mic. Most of the time, such as Uncharted 2, you'll maybe see 1 person with a mic.
What's the premise of Left 4 Dead? *Gasp!* COOPERATIVE GAMEPLAY. How exactly do you play cooperatively, if you're not even able to talk to people? Hell, even I don't have a mic for my PS3. You want you just smack a wall to get your point across in games such as this?
The Xbox 360 comes with a mic. It's the majority of Xbox LIVE, and it's the only reason why most of you can say that it's full of racist pricks. I guarantee you that if everyone on this site had a mic, it would be a lot worse. Anyway, back to the point. The PSN is most certainly NOT mainstream, and to have a game that depends on acting cooperatively on a service where hearing someone's voice is rare would be a terrible experience.
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Jamescagney
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I have to agree with you. I find that there are a small percentage of ps3 gamers with mics. Very few. It's still great fun but I would prefer more having them, it's a world of difference between psn and live when it comes to mics, you get ignorant little sh*ts but you can mute them.
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LeonSKennedy4Life
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I have 5 bluetooths lying around my house. Why do none of you have mics?!?!?!?!
Also, everyone on Uncharted 2 has a mic.
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Arnon
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Dude... send me one rofl, and that is so much bull. I may see 1-2 people in a deathmatch round on Uncharted 2.
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Commodore
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Well this seals the deal.
Microsoft pays Valve to be huge d-bags. First it was " deee ummm we errrr to stupid to make ps3 games because umm errr it's just to ehhh hard"
SONY offered to help you out with the game development...
"deee ummm we errrr just being d-bags about it now because ehhh we errr ran out of excuses and just SUCK"
I don't want Valve games but that sums it up anyway.
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This guys keep on coming with creative excuses not to learn how to program for the PS3. They are just lazy...No wonder why they are all fat...
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7thNightvolley
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alot of hurt fannys here.. take it easy guys i am sure he ment no harm..
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I like Valve games. I like my PS3. But they are not "all that" imo, so whatever if they never make a game for PS3. Out of sight, out of mind, as they say. They are becoming a forgotten company to me. They are not only old school, but old fashion. It's always amusing when you hear people talk arrogantly, when they are the ones getting left in the dust by more modern thinkers.
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seifer085
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should play Demon's souls and tell me that isn't an awesome way to use online! and yes you guys are outta shape.
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Lol Vulva! That's comedic use right there, you're great mate, fantastic.
Comedy gold right here courtesy of idontcare. Superb.
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360 community is head and sholders above PS3, but PC community has a jetpack and is flying above everyone else.
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Everyone on KZ2 and U2 has mics...
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Chet's the only real 360 fanboy at Valve. Gabe dislikes the 360, Doug doesn't like it much either.
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Nothing positive ever to say about consoles, Pandamobile? You're a funny man.
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Wow, when will you PS3 fanboys realize that the PSN isnt selling video games... Since L4D is mainly a multiplayer game there is absolutely no reason that Valve needs to make it for PS3. They would gain absolutely nothing, in fact they would probably lose money.
Stop pretending that money doesn't talk. If Valve thought they would make a profit by putting the game on PS3, they would. Its that simple.
You guys are delusional.
The amount of disagrees given to the first few commentors agreeing with this article just shows me how ridiculous the fanboys are on this website.
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djfullshred
- 47 days 21 hours ago
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No fanboy here, but your comment sounds dumb. If they weren't selling video games on PS3, companies like Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Insomniac, etc, would be looking for a new gig instead of making sequels to their exclusives.
There is more to it with Valve. They have their Steam business. They can do without the PS3 & make a good income. Just because they are not interested in doing PS3 games, does not mean it is due to their not being any profit in there. They would make a ton of extra money if they put the next Half Life out on PS3. They even make money off of the Orange Box that EA ported & published for the PS3.
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I don't think you read the first paragraph correctly. I didn't say PS3 isn't selling video games, I said:
"PSN isn't selling video games" Meaning that the PSN is not the reason why the PS3 is successful.
Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Insomniac, etc, are making games mainly single player games, and they are doing awesome. They are not focused on multiplayer like Activision, and Valve.
I'm guessing you misunderstood something, because if you didn't your argument doesn't apply to what I'm saying.
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well i kinda get what you'r saying taylor but you kinda shoot yourself in the foot because the multiplayers uncharted 2 and resistance you know games developed by naughty dog and insomniac are renowned its just there single player campaings are alot better which is saying alot
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28 - Idiots
Wow, these guys are idiots! Sounds like American car makers years ago ignoring the need of fuel efficient cars. Why invest in a growing market segment?!?! Oh well, guess I'll never purchase a Valve game again. No worries, plenty of other stuff to play on the PS3.
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The Emperor
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Whats with all the hate. Damn some people need to stop being such know it alls. I have to admit I love playing online on my Xbox WAY more than PSN. Why? Well here you go.
I ONLY have people on my LIVE account if I know them in real life, maybe like 1 or 2 ppl I dont know in real life.
The argument about LIVE being this haven for swearers and stuff, ugh mute button? Kinda self-explanatory.
I only played UC2 for its campaign, then back to 360. UC2 could be fun, but if you get a connection error (which I do almost every other match due to the "Amazing Wi-Fi capabilities") then you lose $40,000 and your rank goes down, kinda a little overboard, don't you think? I went from rank 20 to 1 after getting 2 connection errors.
So in my case, I would rather pay for LIVE, which I still use wirelessly, and not get a connection error, than PSN, where you obviously get what you pay for.
Tell me if I'm wrong. . .
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you're wrong
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29.2 - Never had any connection problems here
Played both betas, and I connect to the PSN via Wifi.
Your setup is at fault, not the game.
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Im sure.
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29.4 - Australian.............
No lag here for all first/second party games.
Can't say that much for 3rd party games lol
PSN ID: Sitris
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