IW: MW2 dedicated servers aren't "off the table"

JsonHenry - 49 days 17 hours ago

I am not buying the game, PERIOD. UNLESS the game ships with dedicated server support, I won't buy even it if there is a patch that later adds it.

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kalebgray92 - 49 days 17 hours ago

activision and infinity ward has lost my respect.... mostly activision though

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LeonSKennedy4Life - 49 days 17 hours ago

You guys do know Infinity Ward can probably pull this off without dedicated servers, right?

Why are you guys so freaking whiny about the dedicated servers?

They didn't screw you over.

You guys screwed them over by pirating COD4. It's OUR fault, not theirs.

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Elvfam511 - 49 days 17 hours ago

Is not going to do good without Dedicated Servers

You can't have custom maps, mods, and rooms

It's going to limited

And if you think COD4 privacy is bad HA wait in till you see

CODMW2

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Scar 360WA - 49 days 17 hours ago

Damn, I actually agree with Leon. I don't see why PC gamers always feel so much is owed to them. Both of the 360 and PS3 versions don't have dedicated why should the PC.

Their like the spoiled little brats of gaming, always crying and making petitions.

Seriously the only people that have a reason to complain about COD is the euros because they'll be paying $10.00 more then everyone else. That would piss me off.

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Limited_Vertigo - 49 days 17 hours ago

PC gamers are pissed becuase this is a terrible port. I'm sure you would be upset if a game was ported directly from the wii to the PS3/360 with nothing changed. The PC is not a console and yet they're determined to treat it like one. People not only have a right to be pissed off about this but they are justified. They're getting a watered down game and the developer is hiding behind the "piracy" complaint.

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kikicub - 49 days 17 hours ago

There's A LOT more to it than dedicated servers. Go to Ars Technica and read a little...

http://arstechnica.com/gami...

LackOfVision and Infinite Warts are screwing EVERYBODY with this one, not just PC gamers. Why? We're all gamers, doesn't matter what platform you choose. If we let them get away with this, worst things will come next.

Vote with your wallet. It's not like there aren't good games out there anyway. Have fun!

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ChozenWoan - 49 days 15 hours ago

I am a MW2 Objector.
I am not going to buy, rent, or even pirate this game. I refuse to support the disdain for gamers that this company is promoting in the gaming industry. Thus I will take my business elsewhere to support development studios and publishers who are more dedicated to the enjoyment of making games, as well as making games that gamers want. Regardless, if you stand with me or I stand alone, I will continue to stand up for Gamers everywhere.
This is my vow.

Edit:
Thanks Kikicub for the link, it's very educational.

I'm a PS3/PC gamer (primarily PS3) who sees this game for what it is. MW1 was one of the first shooters I've played online this gen and it was good for a sec. Then I started to run into "Host Left Game" moments and where I'd unload a clip into a guy from behind, eventhough he did not have the health perk, he was able to kill me with just 1 shot, not to mention those fully automatic shotgunners.

Basically, this game is the same as the last minus the need to return to the lobby after the host leaves game.... still you have to deal with the "Host left game" wait which could easily turn the tide in a firefight. Not to mention the fact that there is no kick option to deal with team killers, immature smack talkers, and of coarse the next gen of hackers.

After playing WarHawk, Socom:C, Resistance 2, and KZ2 I know what it feels like to play on dedicated servers. It's a totally different experience that feels like you, and 18-32 of your closest buddys, are gaming at home. No lag switches to worry about, no "Host left game" what so ever, no lobby hopping trying to find a good match becuase all of them are good. Some gamers are used to P2P gaming and to them MW2 will feel like a step up, but to those who have tasted the pleasures of dedicated server gaming.... this game will only leave a bad taste in your mouth regardless of the platform.

Thus I stand by my vow.

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kikicub - 49 days 13 hours ago

See, you just mentioned a few good games. We could have a couple of pages filled with good games. There is choice.

Infinite Warts are screwing people, LackOfVision got too greedy. So, I say pick something else!

Also, what bugs me is the fact that people are not really looking into what this really means.....

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Blowstuffup - 49 days 12 hours ago

By that I mean dedicated servers should have been an automatic inclusion for the PC version and never even up for discussion for cutting out.

The same goes with the removal of custom mods, maps, etc.

These are some of the major reasons why PC gamers chose the PC platform to begin with. Taking these features out is a gigantic blinking neon middle finger to that customer base.

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Redempteur - 49 days 11 hours ago

The only thing différent is :
mouse support
text chat
some graphical tweaks ( not even everything )

When you play FPSs on pc , you want a pc game not a Console game with pc tweaks ...
Because fps on pc are showcases of graphical powers you have on your computer ...
Because fps on pc are fueled by the mind of thoses who make mods ...
how do you think counter striker started ? it was a HL1 mod ..
Mods are part of the PC community ..i can't count the number of mods for unreal , Half life , quake and so on ...

Because MW2 is missing features that even Quake 2 had ....

No escuse for MW2 ...Come on IW supporters ( i know you are few in number but) try to answer this :
What's the purpose of IW.net if the hosting is done on the player side ?
what's the point ? This is a serious question ..

Any pc gamer is angry at least because the answer is ...: There is no point of this "portal" ...

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unknownhero1123 - 49 days 12 hours ago

or charge people monthly for it.

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DARK WITNESS - 49 days 17 hours ago

exactly....

gamers should not fall for it...

they no gamers are not happy, and I think they realize they have to do something about it or they will loose money.

Ah,,, and people said all this boycotting wont make a difference. at least pc gamers can stick together on this one.

it shows they could do it if they wanted.

Don't buy the game, make them add server support first! then consider buying it. If everyone rushes out and busy it now, two years later you will still be waiting and they will be saying " we were only thinking about it "

Boycott the game !

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divideby0 - 49 days 15 hours ago

disagree....you work for them...LOL

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kira42 - 49 days 17 hours ago

Pc gamers are getting ripped off I mean I solely game on a ps3 and I feel for them because of what they did with CoD4, like almost all the games got patched for Rumble after the DS3 controller came out but IW did nothing. Pc games always had dedicated servers and should always have them. I mean seriously how would you feel if they removed voice chat from the game or the party system ? its basically the same thing and on top of that the have to pay $60 for a gimped Pc game

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nolifeking - 49 days 17 hours ago

looking like such an obvious sheep. Dedicated servers are a standard in pc games, calling people whiners isn't gonna change that. Just because you'll eat anything they feed you doesn't mean others aren't smart enough to smell bs when it's in the room.

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FantasyStar - 49 days 16 hours ago

I have to disagree with you Leon. Dedicated Servers are a Core-Element of any PC Game. Without it, PC Games don't last long. We're fans of CoD4 and some people like me have been playing CoD since 2003. I speak for myself as I'm a huge fan of CoD and am saddened that MW2 is in this sad state. I'm angered because Activision raised the price by $10 with a smug look, and I'm pissed that IW doesn't look like they're as innocent as we want them to be due to that Best Buy Live Chat.

I am looking for a someone to blame, but IW was the last group I wanted to point it at. Faced with this harsh reality, I'm just rebelling with my fellow PC Gamers at this point. I don't expect you to understand how we feel, but this is beyond simple "we're PC Gamers and we feel they owe us."

IW is taking a game I love and botching it. That's why I'm pissed. I can stomach paying $10 more dollars, I can't tolerate the butchering PC Version is getting and the lies that their PR is putting out. They're treating us like idiots. Just read the Live-Chat. Just read this article! Just see exactly what we're getting in MW2 compared to CoD4. I'd be happier if IW+Acti just came out and said it.

"We're trying to make as much money as possible, and curve piracy as much as we can, we don't give a **** about our fanbase, not even the legit ones". -If they said that, I would be content and walk away. But they're lying about everything and misleading the public about us.

If we stop, their lie becomes the truth to the public and PC history is written the way they want it to. If they're going to continue to destroy the games that we love, I want the public the know that they are screwing us PC Gamers over, not saving us.

(Seriously, who DOESN'T know how to navigate a Server Browser?)

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kira42 - 49 days 16 hours ago

But seriously how can he tell us to grow up when he barely understands whats going on. I loved CoD4 until i found out they would patch for rumble and trophies, then i thought to myself why wouldnt they do that. im npot buying the game for ps3 either most likely gonna get BF:BC2

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Pennywise - 49 days 16 hours ago

I lost all respect for them when the outrageously overrated game COD never was to get a rumble patch. Seriously... how hard is it?

The are milking this crap and people are going to herd up like a bunch of sheep and buy it.

There are too many new innovative games for me to even give this a second look.

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kira42 - 49 days 16 hours ago

I bought way too many games this year and I was originally exited for MW2 but after all these other games came out I was like **** that I'm getting AC2. I mean what were they thinking when they removed the dedicated server I mean it totally bows my mind to think developers would remove a feature like that, and justify increase by saying its better for the community and go ahead and ignore the community. I know whats gonna happen 1 guy's gonna buy the game and post a torrent and EVERYONE is gonna download it just to piss them off. Imagine your a developer and you see the sales on the Pc version are s*** and then you see the number of people playing is almost triple of your sales

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evrfighter - 49 days 15 hours ago

"because humans like "mob action". Anything where they rebel against "the man" is cool, I guess. Lols. Shut up and buy the game ya losers."

There's a reason why emporers as far back as the days of the roman empire didn't want to piss off "the mob".

Very sad that you'd rather have a body that cares nothing about you dictate how you're going to be gaming in the coming years. A mob is the most effective way of preventing that.

Though I know offhand talking to people like you is like talking to a brick wall. It's about time for you to be sheared little lamb.

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LeonSKennedy4Life - 49 days 14 hours ago

So, playing the same version on PC that you would on the PS3 or 360 isn't good enough for PC gamers now?

They want special attention?

Screw you guys!

I'm a PC gamer too. I'm getting the PS3 version, but still...if I didn't have one, I'd get the PC version.

A sheep goes along with the rest of the sheep.

I'm not the sheep here. Most of you are just mad because everyone else is.

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mephixto - 49 days 11 hours ago

Leon, imagine playing a multiplayer game on the xbox or the PS3 without the psn or live.

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evrfighter - 49 days 6 hours ago

or better yet. Take console gaming as you know it now.

Then

limit Halo: Reach or Killzone 3 to 4-player split screen only.

how would you react?

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FantasyStar - 49 days 17 hours ago

Hey, I know Leon better than that. He's no sheep, but he is entitled to his opinion. Give the man some decent respect you would give to your neighbors.

And yeah, IW proved clearly in the Best Buy Live Chat that they are lying scumbags. They can talk all they want: they already earned the wrath of PC Gamers. At this point, pulling the "Piracy" card is a scapegoat to 'guise the true goal of 100% control over their game and shafting the PC Community because they intend to release DLC and make us pay for it along with their $10 premium for lesser content.

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Limited_Vertigo - 49 days 17 hours ago

I murder my neighbors...sooooooooooo

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FantasyStar - 49 days 17 hours ago

LOL! I wish you would murder IW instead. =D Or at least take one of them and beat them savagely.

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Limited_Vertigo - 49 days 16 hours ago

::waiting patiently for the torrent file to pop up::

No worries I'm murdering them figuratively. :)

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LeonSKennedy4Life - 49 days 14 hours ago

Thank you!

Seriously though...the PC version is the same as the 360/PS3 version. Why are PC gamers owed more attention?

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Laxe - 49 days 13 hours ago

Should IW have made it so the PC, PS3 and 360 versions were going to be like the Wiis' along with the graphics AND implemented friends codes on all the platforms would you like that?

No, you'd say the other platforms are capable of so much more so why make it all like the lowest denominator (the Wii in this case)? All the PC people are arguing from that perspective.

Think about it from the other side before you get on your high horse next time.

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CrippleH - 49 days 1 hour ago

It's like they think PC gamers are idiots and try to trick the idiots.

"But but you can customize graphic settings, mouse, and etc" Every standard PC game can but wait they got Dedicated servers and mods in standard PC games as well.

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cbhamblin - 49 days 10 hours ago

I want to go from Hd graphics that crush the crapbox to non HD MW2 with 18 players instead of 40 and that;s if the crapbox will even turn on see pic below if you still don't know let me pay for live too LOL, you are a retard

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MegaPowa - 48 days 19 hours ago

you call a gaming system.

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