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Is Halo: Reach Just More of the Same Halo?
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Split-Screen: "The Rocket Launcher is there, yes. Not to mention some snazzy new weaponry. Does that Battle Rifle have one mean ass scope or what? And has the Chief returned? Very nice. However, despite these new environments and the so-called improved graphics, the sneaking suspicion still haunts me: This will be more of the same Halo."
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SoX FireBlade
- 46 days 19 hours ago
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Well i meant the shooting is the same
and i meant by new is that something that didn't happen in other games
Halo made console FPS so popular, regenerating health, dual wield weapons, theater mode, forge mode and others
uncharted made something new in terms of graphics, yes there are new additions in the gameplay but they are been used in other games
same goes to killzone 2 good game but nothing new but that doesn't mean uncharted and killzone are bad
i liked uncharted 2 but the shooting was meh to me
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WMW
- 46 days 17 hours ago
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0.2 - *sigh* did all halo fans just start playing games
1. forge is nothing more then a level editor which lots of games had before halo 3(far cry, time splitters, and unreal tournament 3)
2. dual wielding also did not start with halo your obviously a fan of bungie so you should know marathon had it far before halo was even thought of.
3. i'm sure theater mode didn't start with halo but nothing comes to my mind so that is one thing halo started maybe and regenerative health i think they may have started.
so in 4 games they only had 2 innovative features whereas UC is in a category all by itself name just one other 3rd person shooter with plaforming and a cover system and just so you know tomb raider isn't a tps.
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SoX FireBlade
- 46 days 16 hours ago
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halo is the reason that made me a gamer kept seeing my friends playing didn't like until i tried the game and loved it
forge and theater can be used with more than 1 person and after you get it done you share it and people will download it. ( don't forget about file share )
i only played halo so i don't know about marathon
UC2 is considered as an action adventurer more than tps even my friends that love uncharted call it action adventurer
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bjornbear
- 47 days 1 hour ago
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but why am i fearful of it being so =/
take-risks!!!!
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- 47 days 1 hour ago
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The screen shots look polished, but there's such low detail. Thank god it doesn't look all purple anymore
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The Meerkat
- 47 days ago
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It looked purple because it was alien!!!!
How many alien worlds and space ships have you visited?
If alien chlorophyll was purple and all their plants were purple wouldn't it make sense that they would have purple camouflage?
What if an alien world was gravitationally locked around its sun with one side in constant light? Black is going to be silly on 50% of the planet.
What if they wear purple BECAUSE its such a bright colour and it makes them an easier target. They might just want to prove how tough they are, that they don't ever need to hide?
Lots of possibilities.
Its Sci-Fi, open your mind.
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DJ
- 46 days 21 hours ago
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2.2 - Wow, the nerd got pissy.
The other guy was just suggesting better art direction, dude. RELAX.
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- 46 days 21 hours ago
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@ DJ
Your are calling The Meerkat a nerd, meanwhile you are commenting on a video game website, come on we all have a little nerd inside of us.
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DARK WITNESS
- 46 days 20 hours ago
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Better in who's opinion...
you mean it should be dull variations of brown and Grey Like all the other so called imaginative shooters with aliens.
you know what, I like halo's art style just the way it is. I wasn't even happy when they toned it down from halo CE to halo 2, but there you go.
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divideby0
- 47 days ago
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Yep which is not a bad thing as long as we get a big graphical boost.
I do hope, but I know they wont is change Halo MP because Halo MP just sucks
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hiptanaka
- 47 days ago
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Yes, it'll be more of the same Halo.
As was ODST
As was Halo 3
As was Halo 2
Don't worry though. It'll still get top marks from biased gaming websites for having "more of that same great Halo gameplay that we've come to know and love". But when Ratchet & Clank doesn't revolutionize the gaming industry, they criticize it for being repetitive.
What a joke.
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Scott667
- 47 days ago
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4.1 - To be fair....
While I agree that I dislike that R&C has been recieved negatively for staying close to the formula (wasn't deadlocked criticised for being a bit different?) even if you are joking you do have to admit something:
2002: R&C
2003: R&C: Going Commando
2004: R&C: Up Your Arsenal
2007: R&C: Size Matters
2007: R&C: Tools of Destruction
2008: R&C: Secret Agent Clank
2008: R&C: Quest For Booty
2009: R&C: A Crack in Time
8 fairly similar Games in less time than it took Bungie to make 4 Halo's. While R&C is indeed awesome, it is hard for critics to not mark it down.
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cyclindk
- 46 days 22 hours ago
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It is ridiculous...
I think it's ridiculous that one game can get bashed for it while the other praised, NOT the fact that the gameplay hasn't evolved in either title as I think this is a retarded point to judge a game on.
Halo and Ratchet are what they are because that's what people want from them.
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On a side note though, games SHOULD make progress, if only graphically and I'd say the Ratchet series has made more leaps than Halo has and that's really where Bungie should focus their attention.
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it has to be. To keep the fanbase it has created. Even changing the formula a little bit was a disappointment to me (ODST). I want a halo game with the similar mechanics but with awesome graphics, new weaponry, and im thinking a better level editor this time.
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dragonelite
- 47 days ago
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This you should visit the mlg forum talking about this topic.
Some people are already afraid that reach will implement perks like cod 4 has. They like that the BR is a one shot probably gonna be like a real halo 1 pistol or br like in halo 3 as in 2 bodyshots and 1 headshot for a kill.
Halo is catered for the mlg not for casuals. There are big skill gaps.
Like a 50 skill player will butcher a lvl 20 skill player.
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Rowsdower
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6 - is this what we've come to
is bungie making a game that people want, how dare they?
how dare MS have a successful product and make a new version with updated graphics.
how dare they give a large paying audience what they want.
i hate articles that disparage peoples hard work just for hits to their site.
that goes for every system
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Funky Town_TX
- 46 days 23 hours ago
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people hate Halo, and people love it. ODST was called an overpriced expansion now it's called a full game. Fanboys love to hate Halo because it pushes copies no other FPS on a single platform. I like Halo because it's fun. Most people don't understand that at all. I use to think that if I did no like a game then no one else should either. There are lots of people on N4G that thinks that if it's not a PS3 game then it does not matter.
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McDaygo
- 46 days 21 hours ago
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What company in their right mind would make a game that will sell millions of copies and please their loyal fan base? Whats Bungie thinking? The nerve.
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badkolo
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all that matters is that at the end of the day
HALO REACH WILL SELL 3 million copies in a week. thats the troot
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misterssippi
- 46 days 23 hours ago
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Will Halo Reach be more of the same? One of the best selling FPS franchises ever........God, I sure hope so.
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WMW
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your the perfect example of why reach will be more of the same you care more about it being one of the best selling games then having it improve the gameplay and do something new. but i guess that is to be expected most halo fans seem to support it simply to have something to brag about.
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JOLLY1
- 46 days 15 hours ago
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8.2 - wmw I think you have it wrong...
The problem with so many games now it that you are rewarded for everything. You get you ego stroked for killing one person...or firing your weapon, or reloading. Halo is person vs person. If you are better than me, you will win. It isn't who has the better "perk."
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GarandShooter
- 46 days 13 hours ago
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If that's true, why doesn't everyone have the same loadout, or at least access to the same weapons, instead of a race to the best gun? True person vs person would allow all access to the same weapons, and let you choose those that augment your play style.
Having said that, I hope it's an evolution in gameplay, not a reworking. Halo is what it is, and that's not a bad thing, that's for sure.
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VonAlbrecht
- 46 days 23 hours ago
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9 - Halo had a very effective strategy and brought all kinds of depth and innovation a genre gone stale....
Back in 2001. Since then, not a damned thing has changed. Once you've played Halo on the original XBox, you've played Halo 2, Halo 3 and every other future Halo that will ever be known.
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gameraxis
- 46 days 22 hours ago
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here's the thing tho, with the RICH back story of the halo books, they could make a halo game that is TRULY EPIC, and not just great filler. I love SOME of the halo's and the books are intense, i just wish for ONE GAME, they make an undeniable EPIC game, with all the emotion the book captures, all the little side story incorporated. its like that IGN fake ODST commercial, "when was the last time a halo game has such intense action" as the commercial, i personally think if bungie took the halo universe and halo know how and went to Guerilla Games for pure execution, we would have ourselves a CRAZY fing halo game game! imagine halo reach with he amount of environmental stuff going on, crazy over the top graphics,and an insane story. i duno... just speculating here..
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RadientFlux
- 46 days 22 hours ago
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Am I the only one amused that some people are using blurry images that may or may not be fake to already downplay Halo Reach.
It takes me back to when people were waiting to see Killzone 2 gameplay and a small bad quality picture was leaked out and how everyone started downplaying Killzone 2. Only to be shown high-res imagery a few days later. Maybe history will repeat itself.
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The Meerkat
- 46 days 22 hours ago
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That was funny.
It was a shot of a poster from within the game.
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FragMnTagM
- 46 days 22 hours ago
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the same exact thing. How the fvck can a game that is almost a year away be judged by blurry pictures from a cell phone that no ones knows are real or not?
I'll wait til the beta to make my assumptions and decisions about the game, AFTER I PLAY IT! I swear, I don't know what the hell is wrong with people. Although the campaign was a bit stale, Halo 3 did a sh*t ton of things in the MP department. They implemented a robust level editor mode that allowed players to create some very interesting levels. If these levels get popular enough, they make it into matchmaking. Name another game that does that... didn't think so. You can record every single second of gameplay and take pictures and video clips of the cool sh*t you did. You know, those moments that none of your friends would believe you did, Bungie gave you a way to show proof of it.
Look at Uncharted 2, it borrowed some elements from Halo 3, because they were good. Replay of a match anyone? Taking pictures? Filter effects?
Halo MP also has some of the most balanced weaponry in a MP game and when there is a skill gap in a match, you know it. As someone said above, a (legit) lvl 50 player will destroy a lvl 20 player. If you master the weapons in Halo, there is no need for a rocket launcher or a sword. I have seen lvl 50's take out entire teams with only a pistol, when the team had all the power weapons. That is balanced. The lonely pistol is a good enough weapon against rocket launchers, sniper rifles, BR's, and swords. It all depends on the user of the weapon. Halo 3 was and still is a great game. The campaign...not so much... but the MP is where its at for sure.
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So NOBODY wants anything more out of Halo I guess, they're all just completely satisfied, is that it?
ODST gave you everything you could ever want?
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The fact that the game will sell 3 million day one is enough for people not to want more from a game now..
There isn't a game in existence, no matter how much I like it that I don't have some issue with, you are all either incredulous as to these games' flaws and short comings, or very easily pleased.
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13 - Bungie is doing something right...
The Halo franchise is very profitable, so there's something Bungie is doing correctly. So far, Halo: ODST has sold around 3.5 million copies....and people were talking about the short campaign and the same multiplayer maps. If ODST is in the "More of the same" category, then Halo: Reach will be ok.
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divideby0
- 46 days 22 hours ago
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look its got to be better than that POS called ODST...
first Halo game I refused to buy
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gololo
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so what if its the same...halo is what it is....upgrade graphics, upgrade weapons, that all about u need...then innovate a little with some new mp mode or something and its all set...and everyone knows it will sell...
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16 - more of the same isnt bad
I firmly believe that new franchises are suppose to be the ones to innovate and really take risks.. I mean theres a reason people fall in love with certain franchises and making some serious changes can have some negative effects. At the end of the day if its more of the same with amazing graphics its going to get rated well and sell well. I know many reviewing sites mention originality and it happened quite a bit with uncharted 2 but at the end of the day they gave it a great score and thats all that should matter.
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Pretty much, that what Bungie does
Its like Halo has become the Madden Football series, each release has slight upgrades and changes
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- 46 days 18 hours ago
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17.1 - That, sir, is a retarded comment
So what is Gran Turismo? Final Fantasy? Mario? Ratchet and Clank? Come on man, your argument just doesn't hold water, and if you can't see that, I would hate to be you.
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incredible the game is more than a year away and already so much hype. i guess thats what happens when there are no other games and a bunch of brainless zombies who buy whatever garbage you feed them.
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McDaygo
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19 - Hold up.
Who here has played this game? Raise you hand. Nobody? Ahhhh, thats the problem right there.
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Father Murder X
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20 - Here we go again!!!
What the f*ck are they suppose to make it a rpg!!! This is the biggest FPS franchise out there. I mean the last game sold 10+ millio copies. People like it very much. What is there to not understand people or should I say Sony Fanboys who are trolling!!!
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yes... it will still be the same halo. and i will buy it because i'm retarded like that.
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In my opinion EVERY FPS is more of the same Halo. The visuals may change, but the concept remains the same. Oh how I wish for more original games.
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The reason Bungie/Microsoft won't make an EPIC (and I mean absolutely breathtaking, awe-inspiring, "new-engined") Halo this gen is because they want to save HALO 4 for the launch of the next XBOX. If they release Halo 4 this gen, they will have "shot their load" early and nobody likes an early shooter.
I'm sure Bungie aren't fussed either way but those money-men at Microsoft need a top title to launch their new console in the next few years.
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may sound like a hater.but anything with halo in the name master chief GROOPIES will buy..
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FragMnTagM
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24.1 - Simply not true
Look at the sales numbers for Halo Wars.
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Doesn't the name tell it all? Halo "Reach".
j/k though. I am of the opinion that fans of FPS games are not necessarily looking for a unique totally different thing on each game. They want quaility, great game play, an interesting story, and the same general comfort zone that they are used to with that type of game. A recent game I bought was Wolfenstien, and I saw criticism that it was not innovative, and was too similar to older FPS games. That is exactly why I liked the game very much, thank you.
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LMAO @ the fan bloggers knowing ZERO about Reach and are already trying out their same old Halo hater techniques.
They never learn, but here's the preview
Halo: OSDT has not only been a success, but with the addition of Halo Waypoint has actually renewed the ferver for the Halo franchise.
ODST was developed in 8 months with a fraction of the team. We are currently 10 months away from Reach, which will have been developed for a total of 3 years.
Halo 3 criticism has noy been lost on Bungie, who has already descrided the game as a huge leap from Halo 3 and a game so large that the ddeveloper will have 'difficulty' wrapping it up.
Bungie swan song will break every record in the company's eistance and become the highest selling exclusive not named Halo 3.
So let the random bloggers blog about it being more of the same, because the only people that will complain are the same people that will have zero impact on the success of the franchise.
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I agree wholeheartedly.
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is a class based Halo FPS with the different Spartans similar to R6 or Ghost recon. That should be different enough for those that are tried of the same Halo and not varied too much from those that still want more of the same.
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halo reach 10/10
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If bungie wants a new style of sci-fi shooter I'm sure they will make a new marathon and not completely change Halo to be something else. If you mean are they going to make the game look better then no like with COD and every other popular game on Xbox they know it's more money for them not to bother. They can easily pump out games faster if they just make a new game with the same graphics. As long as you buy it they will keep making it. If you don't like that then I suggest not buying the game then complaining about it because as long as you're fine with eating the crap they serve you can't then be surprised when only sh!t is on the menu.
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