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Wii graphics being pushed to their "fullest potential" in FFCC: The Crystal Bearers

Outside of first-party Nintendo titles, the Wii hasn't been home to the most graphically superior games. MadWorld, Monster Hunter 3, and The Conduit are a few products that come to mind, but there aren't a ton of other titles that stand out visually.
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Published: 149 days 16 hours ago | News | Wii
 
 

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DIRTYHAIRYJOYSTICK - 149 days 16 hours ago
1 - Wii graphics being pushed to their "fullest potential"
I heard Pong already did that on the Wii :)
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Maddens Raiders - 149 days 16 hours ago
1.1 - Oh -
dear. The Wii is a perplexing animal isn't it?
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morganfell - 149 days 15 hours ago
1.2 -
"Wii graphics being pushed to their "fullest potential" in FFCC: The Crystal Bearers"

Isn't this a duplicate story? Oh wait, that was The Conduit...
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badz149 - 149 days 13 hours ago
1.3 - how many times should we hear about this "pushing the Wii" thing?
for god sake just stop it already! I know it's cool to be able to push anything to the limit like getting as many fps in games by overclocking CPU and GPU on PCs but this is nothing to be proud of! in the end, nobody cares! this is not like What GoW2 on PS2 'partially' did with the looks that matched earlier 360 games because 360 and PS3 are well established already and I doubt anybody will be impressed by the looks of any Wii games anymore - might as well never EVER again at least as long as the Wii stays non-HD!

the Wii is a non-HD console and no game will look as stunning as those on HD consoles but is this a totally bad thing? no! the Wii is unique in its own ways and while being non-HD, some Wii games manage to sell millions for what they are in terms of control, gameplay and art styles and not to forget long-time running franchises! the conduit is pushing the Wii but does it sell? no, it FLOPPED! I think Wii devs should just stop trying to compete with HD devs in terms of gfx but instead focus on at least making their games look pretty and most importantly cater to the majority of Wii owners in order for them to sell!
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Mini Mario - 148 days 22 hours ago
1.4 - @dirty hairy
"I heard Pong already did that on the Wii :) "

O thats so funny, u are really quick on the tounge. Did you think that one up all by yourself?
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EvilTwin - 149 days 16 hours ago
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It's embarrassing that most devs haven't pushed the Wii beyond what the GC did (even more embarrassing to not live up to GC graphics).

Galaxy and Corruption looked great. Conduit had the tech, but not the art style (while MadWorld had all the style, but in a short, niche game). Other M, MH3, RS2 and Shattered Memories all look promising. Maybe we can add FFCC to that list.
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Mini Mario - 148 days 22 hours ago
2.1 - @badz
"I think Wii devs should just stop trying to compete with HD devs "

Exactly because HD devs spend SOOO much money and cant even surpass mario kart. I agree.

"in terms of gfx but instead focus on at least making their games look pretty"

Wellit works for Paris Hilton. Just look pretty. Thats all anywayone really cares about. Too bad that shes an idiot.

"and most importantly cater to the majority of Wii owners in order for them to sell!"

Ahh i think they have heaps of games that sell really well (just because they are not a FPS's doesnt mean that they are not games). Monster hunter 3 was the most recent one (of many).
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scissor_runner - 145 days 6 hours ago
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It is not about pushing the graphics now it is about art direction. That is what console gaming has always been about.
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Pillville - 149 days 16 hours ago
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I had a Wii first and didn't really care about the graphics, until I got my PS3 and Xbox 360. Now I can't stand to look at a Wii game.

Wii should be considered to be at the end of the last generation, not the start of this one. A GameCube 2.0.
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Mini Mario - 148 days 22 hours ago
3.1 - @pillville
"I had a Wii first and didn't really care about the graphics, until I got my PS3 and Xbox 360. Now I can't stand to look at a Wii game."

Well throw out all those classic ps2 games then because they would be REALLY crap by now. O and dont play any DS games because thats basically 64 bit. O and dont play any supernes, mega drive, psOne, nes games again because you may not consider them pretty (in your "logic" that is).

killzone 2 just wont be the same once the next ps is released i fear. It will flat out, ..suck.
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ElementX - 149 days 15 hours ago
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I thought The Conduit was supposed to push the graphics?

*EDIT* I thought I heard "next-gen grahpics on the wii" in reference to The Conduit.
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Shbzshar - 149 days 15 hours ago
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dont know about graphics but they seem to have nailed the fps control scheme for shooters on the wii
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akaFullMetal - 149 days 15 hours ago
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it will still look like crap unfortunately , I hope the wii 2 or whatever goes hd.
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jsslifelike - 149 days 14 hours ago
5.1 - HD is all well and good...
... but if they do not upgrade the hardware at all, 720p isn't going to be a savior to anyone.
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Fierce Musashi - 148 days 19 hours ago
5.2 - Crap?
Your kidding, right? I'm sure you have atleast seen the trailer. If not then you had better.
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PS360WII - 149 days 15 hours ago
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Well a few other devs had said this just like how devs are saying they have maxed out the PS3 and 360. Yet someone later comes along and says the same thing...
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starvinbull - 149 days 15 hours ago
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It's pretty shocking that on the fingers of one hand I can count the number of Wii games that look better than some of the best PS2 games from 3 years ago.
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Natsu X FairyTail - 149 days 14 hours ago
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wii's fullest potential is really low.

I hope the next wii step it up a notch.
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Mikhal5569 - 149 days 14 hours ago
9 - Now, Now kids play nice
I understand that there is this huge flame bait war going on between all of the 360, PS3 and Wii fans, but come on get real. When did everyone forget that gaming was about fun and escaping reality through fantastical worlds often times with the help of mild narcotics?
If anyone should be getting sh!t on it should be the lazy developers who push out crap game after game, whether it be on the 360, Wii, or PS3 etc. And yes, I know the Wii has been the victim of by far the most shovel ware and exploitation games and it makes the system an easy target. (Especially when the graphics argument is one of the few things most of you have left, of course knowone better tell the PC owners that.) But, in the end it doesn't even matter, because 90% of the real world has now idea that you or your little war even exists.
So in conclusion, Flame on!
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jsslifelike - 149 days 14 hours ago
9.1 - You are correct 100%
Mikhal5569 is right on. Isn't the reason that we as gamers own different consoles is so that we might partake in the best and brightest experiences specific to that platform? I'm so tired of the flaming and prepubescent chatter that it makes me sick. Try to act mature and enjoy your gaming as a whole. If one particular thing isn't for you, it may be for someone else. So go p!ss and moan to the lazy developers. Oh, that's right- they aren't listening...
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Knghtz - 149 days 14 hours ago
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How does this garbage always make it to the top? "Fullest potential" is so abstract. How anyone takes these headlines with more than a grain of salt is beyond me.
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bigjclassic - 149 days 14 hours ago
11 - Wii GFx dont concern me really, because i enjoy Wii games more really.
Besides a couple of PS3 games (MGS4, UC, KZ2, R:Fom, VF5, SFIV, UFC and BlazBlue) i would touch my PS3 for games. Galaxy and Prime 3, showed that the Wii can be pushed and its just that devs wanna quick cash in.

Wii games in general tend to be more fun and immersive because of the game design. SMG, LoZ:TP, MGS4 and KZ2, being imho the best games this entire gen.
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dylandurden - 149 days 14 hours ago
12 - Sad thing is...
... this game looks nowhere near as good as FF XII on PS2.
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EvilTwin - 149 days 14 hours ago
12.1 -
I haven't seen a ton of screen caps for it. There aren't many on IGN, so I doubt they've gotten more out than some early build stuff:
http://media.wii.ign.com/me...

But if they're aiming for MH3, that's a pretty nice looking game. No, not on par with the PS3 or 360, but better than FFXII:

http://wii.ign.com/dor/obje...
vs.
http://ps2.ign.com/dor/obje...

We'll see if they deliver. There's no excuse not to at this point. Cash-in shovelware has saturated the Wii, and if a publisher wants to stand out and get decent sales, they're going to need to put in the effort.
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sidar - 149 days 13 hours ago
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"as good"?
Have you even seen FF12? Every texture is washed out(and overall a darker overtone), the characters dont even have FINGERS.

Most PS2 games looked good due the use of colors, but the poly counts and whatever were always low.
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Mr Remington - 149 days 14 hours ago
13 - Who cares?
Crystal Chronicles suck anyway.
And I'm not just saying this, I had it for Game Cube.
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sidar - 149 days 13 hours ago
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LOL,
You are just blindly bashing.
This one took a different direction compared to the one on the GCN, The DS took more of the FF:CC on the GCN concept.

This one is different. It plays different.

@Disagree,
Really? you disagree? Ignorance...LOL.
This game is a singleplayer game and the one on the GCN is a multiplayer game.
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sidar - 149 days 13 hours ago
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Isn't that what they all say?
Even PS3/360 developers say nonsense like this.
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Arius Dion - 149 days 13 hours ago
14.1 - Yeah really
It's getting tired. Just make a good game. As a Wii owner myself, I never expected PC like graphics, but after having the GameCube and seeing that the system was home to arguably the best looking games last gen, knowing the Wii is twice as powerful as the Cube, when you'd see devs put out games that look like PS2 incarnations, it was easy to see they were not putting in any real effort.

Cube wiped the floor with PS2 graphically. Games like RS2 and RE4 and MP and even Twilight Princess show that the cube was a beast. There is no reason why the average Wii games shouldn't look like the best looking cube games.

But again, that being said, just make a good game.
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EvilTwin - 149 days 12 hours ago
14.2 -
There were some good articles about the Cube vs. PS2 on graphics:

http://cube.ign.com/article...
http://www.popularmechanics...

The Cube never got the props it deserved for graphics. I still have a PS2 and love it, but games like SSX Tricky looked MUCH better on the Cube.

Big N never sold the Wii as being as graphically powerful as the competition. It's GC 1.5:
http://www.joystiq.com/2007...

But that's still pretty formidable. There are some gorgeous games on Wii. I'd wager the Zelda team and Retro studios will milk every last drop they can out of the machine, and their next games will look great. It's up to third parties to push the envelope if they don't want to look bad next to Nintendo.
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sidar - 149 days 7 hours ago
14.3 -
"Gamecube's Gekko is the most powerful general-purpose CPU ever in a console. The PowerPC alone is so much better and faster structurally that Gekko not only is much, much faster than the PS2's main CPU but every bit as fast as a 733 MHz Pentium"

And this is coming from a F5 developer, he even goes on about how the CPU was designed to do stuff right out of the box for games.

I remember PS2 fans crying how much more powerful the PS2 was compared to the GCN. GCN got little credit indeed. I have RE4 for Wii and Ps2, The difference in details in the environments are huge.

No one is expecting Wii to do PS3/360 visuals, but with the right artstyle and clean development, you can have amazing games.

Btw your third link,
Its kinda funny when the Xbox guy said that, Cause "horsepower" =/= functionality. HVS even said with the multi-layered-texturing shader you can basically achieve any other type of shader( I.E Normal mapping ).
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Goomba12 - 149 days 12 hours ago
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I'm honestly getting tired of developers saying this. If this was true why has no developer been able to outshine Metroid Prime 3 on the system?

Monster Hunter 3 looks like it could finally do that, but we shall see about Final Fantasy.
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Arkem - 149 days 10 hours ago
16 - It's sad...
kuz this game doesn't really interest me. Maybe if I see some gameplay later on but not at the moment.

btw, isn't it weird that they used that blurry pic for this article? I don't mean to bash on the Wii (I own one) but I just find it funny XD
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sidar - 149 days 7 hours ago
16.1 -
Its not blurry, its the shader from the energy that comes from his hand.
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Arkem - 149 days ago
16.2 - Sidar
you are correct my friend.
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ZoidsRaven - 149 days 7 hours ago
17 - I..........................
DON'T remember "graphics" making games good back in the day, why should they now?

Oh yeah, that's because the number of graphic hounds DOUBLED since then.
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kepp123 - 149 days 2 hours ago
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yes it has cause the ppl care more about it being pretty than actually good.
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kepp123 - 149 days 2 hours ago
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yeah developers who didnt should suck d!ck and for does that did well you should feel like retards. wii and graphics dont go together motion control gimk is wat they got and that took 3 years to work out so it never really did its job but i have fun playing mine.
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kesvalk - 148 days 19 hours ago
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yea, they say that about every game they make...

even more so on the Wii...
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