Future of FPS Games

mal_tez92 - 171 days 12 hours ago

After playing Killzone 2, I think a first person cover system should be a new standard for FPS games. It was an awesome innovation that works so well. Damn all reviewers who said KZ2 brought nothing new to the table., this cover system alone makes it stand out to me.
I also think a 3 kill streak should always give radar and other kill streak perks from CoD 4, also an awesome game.

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scissor_runner - 171 days 10 hours ago

mal_tez92 cover systems are lame imagine that in a game like quake 3. It only works on games that require slow movement and no movement coordination. The best cover system ever is when you go behind a box and crouch. Yet that would be lame because cover systems suck.

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Killjoy3000 - 171 days 10 hours ago

I feel that the future of FPS games is what will blur the line between shooters and RPG-like progression. Games like CoD4 and Rainbow Six Vegas have explored this field, but fell short on giving you a true identity amongst other players.

I always found it amusing looking at what people did with their gear in RSV online, and would love to see this kind of platform be implemented in a narrative.

Imagine how awesome it would be getting rewarded for everything you do. Like say you can go hand-to-hand in an FPS game (like Goldeneye lol) and if you take down a certain amount of players, you are rewarded an entirely new fighting style. Then, once you have explored the new fighting style deeply enough, you are then taught stealth skills with hand-to-hand. After that comes a knife and after that comes the ability to throw a knife and so-on-so-forth. This progression system would be spanned across all actions in the game.

Also, I want a very wild weapon customization system where you can nearly build your very own weapons kind of like at swat armories. I'm tired of the one attatchment system in CoD4. I want something near Army of 2 except there would be like over 300 parts to choose from including grips, triggers, lasers, silencers, shields, shotguns, grenade launchers, rail sites, dot sites, scopes, flashlights. Everything.

And finally, I want to be able to pull off some very wild things. Say you run out of ammo and you haven't yet unlocked the knife discussed earlier. Well, how about the game letting you flip over your rifle, hold it by the barrel and use it like a bat!!

Or how about making everything scalable like inFAMOUS! That would be nuts!! But you would only be able to do this after a lot of latter-climbing and jumping.

Oh, and did I forget to add in all existing features from popular FPS games of today like a perk system, kill streak rewards, full destructibility, a first person cover system (you can unlock 3rd person RSV cover system!!!I'm going crazyyyyyyy!!), and inventing ammo?

There are so many possibilities with this kind of direction that the possibilities would be endless.

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scissor_runner - 171 days 6 hours ago

Killjoy3000 some good ideas there and some bad ones. Making every thing scalable like infamous would get you shot all the time even on the conduit. The RPG thing is done better than every other game in quake war on the PC the HD console version sucks.

People are know online for different classes. Some are pilots yes we have real flyables in that game. Some are tank drivers or hog drives. Some are expert snipers and spies that can steal ids and back stabb your whole team. You can take out the other teams radar and the objectives are different and there are a bunch of them on each map.

Freedom is a bad thing some times in FPS because the fights become less concentrated. Most of us playing online graduated from quake 3 some taking out a whole squad is easy. Some times you will need more than 10 guys just to play the objective... now that is fun!

You will find it is pretty easy to come up with new ideas yet way harder to control those ideas online. A kill streak would promote every one to snipe then attack... that would be a boring game. Cover systems are only for the retarded or system with out great controls.

The best things I've seen are prone and crouch quake wars has both yet nothing beats dogging fire while rushing your victim!

I have to ask what is the most fun you've had while playing a FPS and which ones have you played? Then ask your self would you sell a game just about that?

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menoyou - 171 days 4 hours ago

Killzone 2 set a new standard in FPS. It's gameplay and control system have me never wanting to play a twitchy FPS with keyboard+mouse ever again. Generic twitch shooters like Modern Warfare 2 coming out just can't excite me after having played something as polished and refreshing as Killzone 2.

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Killjoy3000 - 171 days 2 hours ago

Look, that was by no means a serious message, just more over the lines of wishful thinking. I'm not talking twitch shooters here, as the nineties are over. I'm talking about a more tactical experience with huge battlefields.

You would have enough breathing room in an open space to scale things without getting shot up. It wouldn't be a spam war like you think I'm trying to convey. I want it to be an experience like Socom where you feel rewarded for getting 5 kills without dieing.

Cover systems retarded? Are you kidding?? Again, we're talking about a slower paced game here, not equivalent pacing to Unreal Tournament. Tell me how you would play Killzone 2 without a first person cover system in the single player...**crickets sound off**...Exactly.
When I mean that everything could be scalable, I'm referring to the tree climbing in WaW and mountain climbing in MW2.

None of these ideas are bad, it would just take true skill to implement them. Not all experiences have to be stagnantly straight forward like twitch shooters.

And to answere your question, my favorite shooters of all time are Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, CoD4, RSV, and Killzone 2. Also Bioshock and Half Life.

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Max Power - 171 days 16 hours ago

to say the very same thing, I stopped reading once I hit that part (the "wands" not having buttons to his knowledge). He may have good points but his lack of knowledge put me off...for shame!

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scissor_runner - 171 days 10 hours ago

There you go... every thing else was made for casual console gamers it seems, cover system, wow factor graphics, other fluff. Now quake war was a pretty good game also. The conduit is actually pretty good also.

Every one is so excited about motion control FPS when we have one already. I'm glad the Wii does have any sign of cover systems button presses. I'm starting to wonder if you are playing games and you have no skill than why are you playing them? On top of that solving this could solve the whole trade in problem we are having on the HD systems.

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mau64 - 171 days 17 hours ago

why? I don't understand why they should be banned. what all did they do.

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Max Power - 171 days 16 hours ago

did I miss something? I see nothing wrong with the comments above, but I guess I should trust someone who "joined" 8 hours ago, and is most likely on his nth account.

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Etackett2010 - 171 days 15 hours ago

I sense a storm coming...

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kaveti6616 - 171 days 14 hours ago

Oh, wow. You must be one of those guys on a mission, searching for glory on the internet. Here's a secret. You won't find it. Why don't you take your trolling ass off of N4G because nobody wants you here. Not the 360 fans. Not the PS3 fans. Nobody. You're not doing anyone any favors. And you're randomly calling out people and accusing them of having multiple accounts, as if you would now you stupid sh*t. I bet this isn't even you're first account, you hypocrite.

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Max Power - 171 days 15 hours ago

be running into your tv? I kid I kid.

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mau64 - 171 days 15 hours ago

I hope the new medal of honor turns out better than airborne. I personally couldn't get into it but I'm sure there are people that could

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mau64 - 171 days 14 hours ago

I agree with you, it is a broad term. But Bioshock and Call of Duty 4 are both FPS games, its the story, aesthetics, and everything else that sets it apart. I would like to have the option of playing games in first or third person view, I see that being an option down the line but like you said, it looks weird for right now.

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thehitman - 171 days 10 hours ago

Gave you the option I glad very glad they did because there are lots of parts where feel First person is better than third and vice versa. The flexibility was very good. I dont see why all shooters couldnt be like that but in most cases devs build their game around the view like fast pace or slow pace usually the faster paced games go in third person and slower in first person, which I am sure there are technical issues/reasons behind that.

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scissor_runner - 171 days 10 hours ago

Lots of people are starting to look at graphics as the reason why the industry is stagnat.

A few weeks ago IGDA Japan head Kiyoshi Shin posted an article on Nikkei's IT Plus site, covering events at E3. Nothing massively noteworthy of that I suppose, except his coverage was refreshingly insightful.

His main point was that a lot of games are opting for visual proficiency over functional development. He mentioned the demo of Assassin's Creed 2 as being aesthetically sumptuous but functionally very simplistic, in the sense that whilst you have Venice recreated in stunning detail you can't do much within it bar kill people. Now, he hasn't played the game but I can see where he's coming from in regards to how the first game played (as it was a beautiful looking piece of technology but functionally quite monotonous).

The problem with this approach of course is that you end up with ever increasing budgets and an increasingly massive workforce, whilst the games remain functionally quite limited and standardised. He also makes a pretty cutting appraisal on the narrowness of genres available now and the depressingly propensity for turning games into franchises, as this is obviously a cost saving endeavour in the face of spiralling finances on the graphical end of the spectrum.

What really struck me about all this was that this was a Japanese piece published on a very mainstream online publication that stated a very important issue that the Western gaming press, in their orgy of banal Tweets, managed to conveniently miss; that these massive graphically focused budgets are forcing a functional restriction and an unnatural standardisation on gaming. Admittedly, we've had lots of coverage about the rising cost of games development but no-one has really mentioned the veritable elephant-in-the-room - that games aren't functionally going anywhere as a result of all of this.

-insert coin-

Then you have a graphic king being bought out by the fall out guys because they simply need a huge team to make the pretty games every one is expecting.

Mark my words graphics can and will kill gaming if the industry gets caught up in paying for graphics rather than better game play.

One thing is I have to ask is how skilled are the people that want these new pretty games? Are they willing to learn how to play? Do they enjoy using their skill?

These are very important things and it leads to addictive game play.

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Arius Dion - 171 days 8 hours ago

I read that same piece on Nikkei..Amazing that it was overlooked by the gaming press, especially since it is so poignant..Oh and spot on as usual.

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