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Is Sony quietly closing out PSN data slurpers?
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PS3TrophyCard.com is down for maintenance and they're pointing the finger directly at Sony.
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Kamikaze135
- 177 days 9 hours ago
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1 - I hope nobody is surprised....
I was always baffled as to why Sony didn't take action against them before, lol.
@LinuxGuru
It's not about what it could do to Sony, it's about Sony owning the rights to it and other companies/websites not going through the proper steps to gain the rights to display that information.
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LinuxGuru
- 177 days 8 hours ago
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And why would they take action? What could retrieving your PSN account info and displaying it for others too see like gamercards ever do to Sony?
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inbfour
- 177 days 8 hours ago
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1.2 - Well
Like any other company, Sony is interested in making a profit on whatever they can. Perhaps they will create their own version of a game card and just add that to the list of +'s on the PSN and could advertise that.
It's always for monetary interest(which I have no problem with).
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Seraphim
- 177 days 6 hours ago
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yeah, I honestly don't see what the holdup is. They have that stupid little gamercard but nothing in the lines of trophy cards. And all the other places really suck... Playfire isn't half bad but they take forever to get some games up and outside the EU region you have to manually update. Which I don't actually mind but then you get strokes listing every trophy available as if they actually obtained them all. I guess my biggest gripe is how slow they are to get games up there, and how often when they do trophies are missing...
Anyway, I don't know the exact specifics when in regards to obtaining trophy lists and whether or not it takes a hit on Sonys servers, bandwith, additional operating costs, etc... But I think the fact that PS3 Trophy Card is charging for automatic updates constantly throughout the day might peeve Sony a bit. While it's only $6 a day they are still charging for the option. On the other hand they do offer the free tag... I don't know. At one point I was angered at the idea of paying even that minimal fee and never did. Plus I really like Playfire despite their shortcomings. But at the same time if Sony doesn't want to provide us with trophy cards then someone will.
I can honestly say this though. Sony, again, needs to get on the ball. They need to get some fresh, and good avatars rolling our way and they need to get us a Trophy Card. Whether it working out a deal like the did in EU w/ Playfire.com for trophycards or they do themselves they really need to get something out there for us that's of decent quality...
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FreestyleBarnacle
- 177 days 5 hours ago
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It is a little off that you can get a trophy card in the EU but not the US but could it not be the case that there is a more benign reason for this? It has been reported on the EU blog that extra functionality is coming to the trophies in the form of leaderboards and comparisons. Is it not possible that in making these functions the code has had to be changed to a point where another system has to be used to get the trophy info? Playfire have worked with Sony in the EU to get the trophy info working for them and do not seem to be having any trouble. Maybe the problem with using your own method like PS3TrophyCard has is that there is no obligation for Sony to leave the chance for them to get the info open.
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Carl1412
- 177 days 3 hours ago
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Pretty pissed off with that, as i paid the fee to have it updated automatically. *sigh*
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Double Toasted
- 177 days 1 hour ago
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1.7 - @Seraphim...
What's $6 a day? I'm sure w/e it is its not worth it, pfft...thats $180/month.
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Captain Tuttle
- 177 days 1 hour ago
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1.8 - Yeah Seraphim...
I'm confused. What exactly do you get for $6/day? Or did you mean $6/month?
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pansenbaer
- 177 days 1 hour ago
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Its 6 dollars a year. 50 cents a month. This gets you automatic updates to the card every day. Whereas a non-premium account gets it like twice a week or something. Its not worth complaining about.
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Xiphos
- 177 days ago
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Seraphim is 7 shades of confused.
- PS3TrophyCard charges $6/year for numerous automatic updates per day. If you sign up at MMOS.com, you get 2 auto updates per week, free. You can also just put your ID in manually every 12 hours if you feel like you need an update right now.
- PlayFire automatic cards are not only available in EU. Your US PSNID is usable at SCEE's site, and you can make an official SCEE Trophy Card with it, which is what PlayFire's cards get their info from.
Anyways, I'm surprised they were this silent for this long. I emailed them months ago about why Rag Doll Kung Fu trophies weren't showing up. Staff messaged me back saying Sony changed their data encryption, and it'll be like that for new games until they crack it or figure out how to work around it. PlayFire doesn't get in trouble like this because they don't really have automatic cards. Their cards only update if you update your SCEE Trophy Card.
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Seraphim
- 176 days 20 hours ago
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my bad... that's what I get for trying to explain something that late. idk what was going through my mind :D Daily updates, yearly fee, what I was going to say next? :D Sorry bout that...
as already stated, the fee is $6 a year to have your card updated automatically several times a day from PS3TrophyCard.com. As I said, a minimal fee but a fee nonetheless...
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F3NIX DX
- 176 days 15 hours ago
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1.12 - @1.1
reported as SPAM for being an idiot
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pixelsword
- 177 days 8 hours ago
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2 - Yeah, so?
Maybe Sony wants to do it themselves down the road. Maybe Sony is eliminating things that will slow down the network.
at any rate, it doesn't affect much at all.
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Max Power
- 177 days 8 hours ago
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2.1 - that is very true...
you never know what they might include in a firmware update.
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rpgenius420
- 177 days 1 hour ago
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2.2 - Just use the EU card service.....
Go to www.eu.playstation.com and just use their card service. You just need to sign in with you PSN ID and get the trophy card code its super simple. The only thing is you have to go to your trophy card and click update for it to update your trophies.
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Soda Popinsky
- 177 days 8 hours ago
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Powermongers. Reminds me of when they shut down Lik-Sang.
http://news.punchjump.com/b...
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RememberThe357
- 177 days 8 hours ago
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3.1 - lol
Says the MS fanboy.
Business is money, and money is power. Therefor, if your in business your, at least to a certain extent, power hungry.
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thereapersson
- 177 days 7 hours ago
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You're really pathetic, Popinsky.
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ultimolu
- 177 days 5 hours ago
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*sighs and shakes head*
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Soda Popinsky
- 177 days 3 hours ago
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"Business is money, and money is power. Therefor, if your in business your, at least to a certain extent, power hungry."
That's not what it sounds like when MS pays for exclusive content. Hypocrite much? ;)
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YogiBear
- 177 days 1 hour ago
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3.5 - @ Soda
There is a difference between power hungry and throwing money at every problem your company has.
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Soda Popinsky
- 176 days 23 hours ago
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Or you could call it strategic investing.
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YoMeViet
- 176 days 22 hours ago
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I thought those were called brides?
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YogiBear
- 176 days 21 hours ago
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3.8 - @ Soda
Make up whatever titles you want.
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z-hayden
- 176 days 15 hours ago
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no, strategic investing would be buying studios not buying one game in a series...
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Narutone66
- 176 days 11 hours ago
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3.10 - Uhmm guys, it's no
use arguing with a MS employee.
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PLAYINB3YOND
- 177 days 8 hours ago
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Sony have obviously developed their own tech like PS3Trophy cards and they're just making sure there's no competition
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dorron
- 177 days 8 hours ago
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F**K !!!
Now I know why my ps3trophycard didn't work anymore !!! :-(
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MadforitUK
- 177 days 8 hours ago
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You can already get a Playstation trophy card from Sony lol.
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dorron
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I know, but I prefer the ps3trophycard ...
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Saaking
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That kinda sucks. I hope Sony is thinking about doing some sort of profile card like xbox 360 one. They probably are anyways.
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Jdoki
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I know this is completely off topic, but has anyone else noticed that firmware 2.80 has added support for up to 8 controllers? Or at the very least introduced a bug for the Guitar Hero instruments (they sometimes default to '7', and lights 4 and 3 on the controller light up. Have also had this happen once on a DS3 controller.
I have a feeling it's the first roll-out towards the Motion Controllers launch. :)
On topic - I've not noticed it happening on Playfire.com, so I'm not sure we can take one isolated case and claim Sony is screwing them over. I would imagine it would be an 'all-or-nothing' locking out of Trophy sites.
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PLAYINB3YOND
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I've noticed my Rock Band drums default to number 7 on my PS3, I have to keep reassigning it.
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Jdoki
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@Playinb3yond
Yeah, same here. It's a little annoying, especially the first time it happened and I had no clue.
Definitely started happening after the 2.80 firmware update.
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PirateThom
- 177 days 4 hours ago
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I believe it was intentional.
Rock Band/Guitar Hero/Buzz peripherals used to default to 1, meaning every other game would need to have the controller reassigned.
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Mooey
- 177 days 7 hours ago
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Slurp is a cool word. Like Twix. Or Fungus.
Can you dig it?
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NMC2007
- 177 days 7 hours ago
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So what do you all think of SquareEnix shutting down that Chrono Trigger project a while back? No intentions of reviving the series outside of a DS port, of course it's their IP and such but if you have 0 intentions on doing anything with it then what is the harm in a fan made piece of work?
Which brings me to this, what if Sony are just being @ssholes? It's not out of their character or anything, just saying, I really didn't see the harm in the site, ah well.
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Jdoki
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Maybe Sony are being @assholes.
But there are a few Trophy websites, and this is the only one complaining (at the moment).
I use the Playfire service, and at the moment it's working fine. If Sony have an issue with sites creating Trophy Cards I would imagine they would block all of them. Perhaps we shall see over the next few days.
However, if Sony are just about to launch a service of their own, then I can understand why they are doing this.
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MysticStrummer
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(1) I (2) don't (3) care (ok, more than 3 words) I sincerely hope Soda Popinsky is joking with his "power mongers" assessment, considering the company he apparently endorses. I've never understood the attraction of trophies or achievements. If I enjoy a game, I'll keep playing it. If I don't, I won't. Comparing virtual exploits is, in a word, ri-friggin-diculous. Being a gamer has to do with playing and enjoying a variety of games and game types, not some nebulous score or trophy count that has been assigned by the company making the games.
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Jdoki
- 177 days 6 hours ago
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I'm in the opposite camp.
I think Trophies and Achievements add loads to games.
A tricky to obtain Trophy may make the gamer think of different ways of playing a game.
I played Crackdown a lot, and loved the game for what it was. But the Achievements made the game even better, and most importantly they were fun. Achievements compliment a game.
Same for inFamous. The Trophies gained for pulling off some of the more outlandish stunts/kills, had the knock on effect of changing how I played the main game as well.
I don't care for the points allocated or colour of the Trophy, I just like having these additional goals and objectives.
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Soda Popinsky
- 177 days 3 hours ago
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I just love poking fun at Sony fanboys cause they are so serious =)
I bet my avatar made you pee a little the first time you noticed it.
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ArcticWolfUK
- 177 days ago
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the official cards need more veriety tbh
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sukru
- 177 days 7 hours ago
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12 - But why?
It does not make sense to limit this information. They should actually provide an API to make this simpler!
Look at all the publicity XBL gets due to gamercards attached as forum signatures! Everybody knows about achievements and gamer scores, even MS employees (Major Nelson) uses them, but Sony chooses to hide similar stuff.
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Revvin
- 177 days 6 hours ago
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I'd rather see the Sony's network bandwidth used for the dedicated servers they provide for a number of games rather than cheesy gamer cards.
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siyrobbo
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theres really no reason why you cant have both
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Revvin
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If I was paying for the service then perhaps but the PSN is free, they run a large number of dedicated servers for games and you don't get bombarded with adverts. Someone has to pay for the bandwidth being used for each query sent by these kinds of trophy card sites and you can be sure those sites make money from advertising so why should they be able to use up bandwidth from Sony?
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bjornbear
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14 - Wow big deal =P If this happened to Xbox 360 MS would probably do the same
Or worst and try to sue....
Hope official ones come out =3
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Automat
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15 - Stealing Bandwith
leave sony alone, they have their own service:
http://mypsn.eu.playstation...
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baseballkid721
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well i hope that sony changes the way they do their trophy cards... change it to auto-update, not manual update. and bring it to the US!!!
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Too_Hyped
- 177 days 8 hours ago
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Another stupid fanboy blog.
What he says is wrong, PS3 portable IDs on Sony site now displays all your trophies, so this moron obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.
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^^^
Another stupid fanboy account.
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Only Sony fans would care about something as stupid as this. Oh no, now the whole world can't see how many trophies I have in Lair! Boo hoo. Lame.
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Jack Klugman
- 176 days 19 hours ago
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i didnt realise how lame gamer cards actually are. you tellin me they don't even automatically update all the time? and some people even pay for that? and then they want to cry to people about xbox live fees.what a bunch of chodes
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soda pop owning droids in the gamer zone!
"That's not what it sounds like when MS pays for exclusive content. Hypocrite much? ;)"
owning the fools who will just bury their head in the sand go in the next ms article and cry about ms doing the same thing they sit here and defend sony for.
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