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Killzone 2 Kicking Tires, Lighting Fires, but Why Again Exactly?

Guerilla Games' first-person PS3-exclusive shooter Killzone 2 has everyone gabbing, and bloggers in particular panting, gushing, and fawning. According to the developers, it's steeped in "Hollywood realism" that's supposed to make things more "immersive."

Pedestrian yawn-ese like "best looking console game ever" and "surpasses Crysis" should suffice to warn you that substance and/or insight aren't high priorities in much of the press coverage.

Besides, everything looks pretty gosh-darned amazing these days. Who cares if one game looks better than another.

What I want to know is what's it play like? After all, we play games, not "wall textures," "sweat glands," and "destructible milieus".
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jayblings - 358 days 17 hours ago
1 - What was the point
What point was the author trying to make? You aren't allowed to get excited for a game unless there is a proper review? Sites aren't allowed to post their reviews until Feb 3rd, so the only thing that is allowed to be posted are previews and hands on impressions.
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POGfinder - 358 days 17 hours ago
1.1 - actually 4 reviews are in
OPM US - 5/5

and leaked 3 other reviews---all perfect scores
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GrieverSoul - 358 days 15 hours ago
1.2 -
Sorry excuse for an article!
People have to bash anything related to Killzone!

I swear this game will fail the reviews because people will nitpick everything they can in this.

´´There´s a bug here, a pop it in there, ho,ho.. a frame rate drop right here did you see that?! The PS3 cant handle it! I knew they would have failed their CGI trailer 2 years ago!! I knew it!``
++ As if a game is bug free and ocasionnly doest choke!

´´Ah yes, the answer youve been waiting for! NO! This game is not better than HALO 3! HALO is the best game in the world and no one cant beat it!``
++ Lets not compare this to HALO please! Lets not compare it to COD4! Lets this game be itself and review it for its content and substance please! HALO 3 has already been beaten by CoD4 MW, everyone check Xbox LIVE stats and you will see! There is no measuring stick to put FPS! Otherwise, DOOM 1 is the best FPS in the world IMO! But no one plays it now cause it looks awful and there better games to put our time in it!

If anyone with half a brain doesn´t buy this game because said reviewer gave it a 7/10 or a 6/10, YOU DONT EVEN DESERVE TO PLAY VIDEOGAMES!!!
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Lifendz - 358 days 14 hours ago
1.3 - I love how worried they are...
it's hilarious. When GTA revolutionized itself, when SFII changed the way we think of fighters, when World of Warcraft made itself a game some people were content to only play forever....these are just some monumental moments in gaming after subpar initial/early versions.

Now it's Sony's turn. Sony took MS' best shot and wasn't put away. In fact, despite not having but one so called "must have" game, the PS3 is still neck and neck with the 360 even though it's 200 bucks more.

Now comes Killzone 2. The game that even the most die hard 360 fanboy looks at and has to give props to Sony. Look, put the fanboyism aside and remember that you were a gamer before you became a loyalist. The game is going to be great. Stop hating just because you don't agree with some of Sony's moves or are just so in love with your 360.

P.S...I'll have mine on day one. Feel free to add me to get some gaming going.

PSN: Lifendz
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TheTwelve - 358 days 13 hours ago
1.4 -
If this site wasn't owned by Microsoft, I would actually spend time lighting this fool up like a Christmas tree.

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XxZxX - 358 days 13 hours ago
1.5 -
Aaron Greenturd is expected to make an official Microsoft statement about PC World's Killzone 2 comments shortly. Thank you for your patience.
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WANNA GET HIGH - 358 days 13 hours ago
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LMAO..I uess this guy did not remember the beta and the postive feed back it got in its game play.This just shows that killzone2 will be reviewed unfair.First it was the target render will never look like the final version but now u can debate that the final version looks better than the target render so they now go to gameplay. he said "Initial reactions to Killzone 2's gaming principles vis-a-vis CES don't reveal much. You have to shoot bad guys. Turrets help. A building catches fire and crumbles. You employ a rocket launcher to blow open a door" Well i want to know how other %95 of shooters are.. :/

It is alerday a sign this game will be picked for the smallest thing but if it was another shooter they will give it a pass.But i dont give a "F"... Add me on psn for Clan wars, jon_abobo... FEB 25TH (UK)
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Cwalat - 358 days 13 hours ago
1.7 -
i agree..

the only official review in is from OPM 5/5

the others are nothing but local newspaper reviews..

such as the 4/5 from GP in Sweden.. in other words Göteborgs Posten...
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but i think ppl should only be concerned over the real reviews if they should be concerned...
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Aaron Greenterd - 358 days 12 hours ago
1.8 - Microsoft® Offical Statement©
We at MS are proud to have PC world as part of our Media Outreach Campaign linK™ (MOCK). Here, they have made compelling arguments to the integrity of journalism; the term "the pot calling the kettle black" should absolutely NOT come to your mind....now or ever.

Never mind that if this game could run on a 360 (hahahaha), PC World (of America) would be orgasming into their 360s disc drives and sounding yet another death-knell for the ps3.

I will have to contact PC World (they are in the other room, shouldn't be a big deal) and notify them that the original argument against Killzone 2 was the E3 trailer, and to cry about the graphics now, makes us look like 2 faced hypocritical cowards.

The End.®©™
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AclayPS3 - 358 days 12 hours ago
1.9 -
I'm sick and tired of people like this guy still asking "how does Killzone 2 play"?

If you've played Killzone 1 like me, then you pretty much know how Killzone 2 will feel. Killzone is not a run and gun shooter, so if you play the game that way, you won't last long.

And the author goes on to say that Killzone 1 was hyped up in the same fashion, but failed to live up to expectations.... Look people, the ONLY reason why Killzone 1 failed to live up to the hype is because the game had so many bugs and issues in the game. Killzone 2 on the other hand doesn't suffer from the issues that Killzone 1 had, so basically that means that Killzone 2 is on the brink of being an awesome game and will not suffer the same fate that Killzone 1 did.
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freeblue - 358 days 11 hours ago
1.10 - CES didn't reveal much?
are you kidding me? CES videos revealed more than most. they'er almost spoilers in some of those videos.
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Venomish - 358 days 11 hours ago
1.11 -
greentErd hahah, fake greenturd
serves you right two bubbles
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Aaron Greenterd - 358 days 10 hours ago
1.12 -
No, this is my first account, the ones that the Mods de-bubbled because at that time, the anti-ps3 news was staggering, and I was cleaning up the comments section and sending fanboys crying to their mommas

I'm just trying to get more bubbles on this account, in case they are needed at a later time. See how planning ahead can work in your favor?

We at Microsoft can't see past this very second.
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Venomish - 358 days 7 hours ago
1.13 -
@1.12
I see,
then we will need to help you bubble up.
your comments are epic.
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Gambit07 - 358 days 7 hours ago
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Bubbled him up too.
1.15 dantesparda | 358 days 6 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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lokiroo420 - 358 days 5 hours ago
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bubbles any time you need em 'terd!
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IcarusOne - 357 days 23 hours ago
1.17 - what the point is
Greenterd - agreed. If this game ran on the 360, I don't think many of these questions would be asked. I imagine a slew of other, benign opinions stirring up fanboy sentiment in some way. Imagine how annoying the comparisons would be then. Xbots wouldn't have to imagine the comparison between games like Crysis or Call of Duty or Halo. They could compare Killzone to Killzone. Actually, I'm not sure which way is worse.

I think the comments to this story highlight the real problem that people are having with it: it's not news. It's another opinion elevated to headlining status, most probably due to the fact that we readers enjoy enflaming our easily offended sensibilities and waging forum-war. Any time a post asks "Why is this news worthy? Why do we have to read this gas bags opinion? Why are blogs passing for news?" the author should remember that they did indeed click on the article, increasing it's temperature, and they did indeed comment on it, adding fuel to the fire.

This includes me. =)

I imagine a world, seemingly unattainable, in which we readers show restraint, resist our lesser ennobling qualities and stop looking for fights. Let's start doing what we imagine ourselves doing - pursuing worthwhile and relative news. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

Wow. Sorry, that was a hell of a rant. I must be very stoned.
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LoVeRSaMa - 357 days 20 hours ago
1.18 - Just Quickly..
"Who cares if one game looks better than another."

Me?
or Should we just go back playing 2D pong?
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POGfinder - 358 days 17 hours ago
2 - PCWORLD
owned by MS

just like Variety , GT etc

really sad gaming journalism these days

However KZ2 will get perfect scores from many sites.5/6 haters wont matters
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Jamie Foxx - 358 days 16 hours ago
2.1 - ^^exactly whos surprised, microsoft trying in desperation to fan the flames
but kz2 is still ON FIRE
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heroicjanitor - 358 days ago
2.2 - Jamie Foxx
Doesn't fan the flames mean make them burn stronger? I know what you mean and I agreed though
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jkhan - 358 days 17 hours ago
3 -
"You have to shoot bad guys. Turrets help. A building catches fire and crumbles. You employ a rocket launcher to blow open a door."
What the hell? Every other game does the same thing, Gears 2, Halo 3, and Call of Duty 4 did the same but thats not the problem in those games, but when it comes to Killzone 2, it needs to be revolutionary. People praise Call of Duty 4 to death, heck it didn't even had variety in its enemies o_o, with 6 hours of campaign but hey its not an issue with that but Killzone 2 needs to be 200 hours long, randomly generated, with guns shooting potatoes:|
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POGfinder - 358 days 17 hours ago
3.1 - dude it is from PCWORLD
the site is owned by MS

so what do u expect

everyone approve this so that others can see the sorry state of viral marketing

pathetic really pathetic
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MURKERR - 358 days 15 hours ago
3.2 - jkhan..took the words outta my mouth
WHAT THE FU*K ELSE ARE YOU MEANT TO DO IN A FPS? microsoft are that desperate? seriously someone explain to me what else you are ment to do in a fps? killzone has taken the fps genre and given it a good polish
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Johnny Rotten - 358 days 13 hours ago
3.3 -
"some people say I'm 10ft tall with laser beams coming out of my eyes and fireballs coming out of my arse"


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POGfinder - 358 days 13 hours ago
3.4 - Comparing KZ2 to Halo 3's visual
funniest post ever

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAA
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na2ru1 - 358 days 12 hours ago
3.5 - [jkhan] EXACTLY
It stinks so bad, it's embarrased the 360 fanboys out of Killzone articles with shame.

It was a decent chance for them to actually appreciate consoles in this generation's offering. i pity
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anzagi - 358 days 17 hours ago
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POGfinder "1.1 - actually 4 reviews are in
OPM US - 5/5

and leaked 3 other reviews---all perfect scores"

I am so hyped for this game - how do you know they got perfect scores? great if they did!
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POGfinder - 358 days 16 hours ago
4.1 - OPM UK gave it perfect score too
2 other reviews were leaked at GAF
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andron666 - 358 days 15 hours ago
5 - LOL...
That's the most pathetic excuse for a blog I have seen in a while. It had no point other than getting hits.

It only makes him sound totally ignorant and FPS hating. If he wants to see more game play just search the net, plenty of videos available...
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POGfinder - 358 days 14 hours ago
5.1 - dude
PCWORLD is owned by Microsoft

Now do i go on?

You know that Variety and GT(aprtially) are owned by MS too
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darkride66 - 358 days 13 hours ago
5.2 - Here's another red flag.
"And when the game itself arrives in late February, you know what to do with reviews that pony up Halo and Crysis for vacuous visual comparisons."

Seriously? You really think people are going to be making graphical comparisons to Halo? Even the fact that Halo and Crysis are mentioned in the same sentence with regard to visuals is mind-blowing. Nothing against Halo3, it was a great game and it did look good but it wasn't really considered a graphical showpiece. I highly doubt any reviewers are going to be comparing Halo 3's visuals to Killzone2.
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Graphics Whore - 358 days 13 hours ago
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This should literally have it's own category as an "Anti-Hype" article.

"Besides, everything looks pretty gosh-darned amazing these days. Who cares if one game looks better than another."

"Hey, the game could be outstanding. But wait for it. Try the upcoming demo for yourself. Don't be suckered in by rhapsodies in ballyhoo."

by Matt Peckham.
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Bathyj - 358 days 13 hours ago
6.1 -
I guess the testimonies of 100's of beta testers, who only talk about it because they love games should just be dismissed then.

We should wait for "Professional Reviews" (paid for by M$) written by jaded arses who seem to think they're pretensious food critics not gamers. We shouldnt trust our own instincts at all or be excited by anything. We should just do rittelin.
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Graphics Whore - 358 days 13 hours ago
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I'm gettin' Kizzy either way, the ritelin now sounds like a bright idea.
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ultimolu - 358 days 13 hours ago
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I swear...these bloggers get stupider, and stupider by the day...
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WANNA GET HIGH - 358 days 13 hours ago
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By the day...More like by the second.. :/
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Bathyj - 358 days 13 hours ago
8 -
This is hilarious.

"Who cares if one game looks better than another. After all, we play games, not "wall textures,"

Is that why you spend 3 grand on a gaming PC that gets about a quarter of the good games that either console gets a year.

Dont make me laugh....bitterly.
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WaR_HaWk - 358 days 13 hours ago
8.1 -
buble
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na2ru1 - 358 days 12 hours ago
8.2 - No wonder, they aren't 360 fanboys.
they're PC fanatics. Killzone to has been compared to the goliath afterall. it had me scratching my head. duh theyre PC fanboys.
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Cajun Chicken - 358 days 13 hours ago
9 - LMAO!
I could say exactly the same of my opinion of the Gears of War series, looks great with the UE3, but sacrifices everything else in the meantime.
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Bathyj - 358 days 13 hours ago
9.1 -
Gears doesn't even look that great anymore, unless by great you mean shiney. Boring as f*k too.
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Cajun Chicken - 358 days 13 hours ago
9.2 - @Bathyj
Y'know, it DID and then Uncharted came out.

Agree with point 2 also, I played it on Hardcore first time around and went through it with a breeze, I really only enjoyed the chapter in the abandoned town with having to make a path of light, as that made a neat game mechanic.
But then I heard off a friend and looked up in reviews that all that element was removed in the sequel (which in my opinon was the best thing hit had going for it), so I can't be bothered with Gears 2, or at least buying it.
Marcus Fenix is by FAR one of the worst lead characters in a game ever, I really hate the guy and one of my flatmates recnetly got a 360 and Gears 2 bundled for christmas, he hates the feel of game and comically described him as a 'hulky bully and a utter t**t to his team mates, no way a hero'.

I used to really like Epic's games on the PC, they personally disapoint me now.

But when you read in the press, Gears always seems to be praised for its graphics. Which I find really annoying, because I've seen FAR better on the PS3 since 2007 of titles that didn't gain that automatic hype that sells copies.

I should of worded it as 'looked great...'

I can't WAIT for the disagrees based on this.
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Bathyj - 358 days 12 hours ago
9.3 -
I wont go into the many things that disappointed me about Gears 2. I'm not trying to hijack this thread into a Gears hating session, but yeah I have to agree with one thing. MF (that would be Marcus) sh*ts me to tears. He might be the main reason I grew so tired so quickly.

Cliche upon cliche, you really cant bring yourself to give a damn about him. I think I like it better when they didn't even try to have a story, at least the magnitude of their failure wasn't so apparent. And surely Epic realise how unappealing he is too, hence the tacked on story of Dom's wife. I think Marcus Fenix is who Cliffy B wants to be when he grows up. Hes bigger and more badassed, (than Cliffy.)

But the main thing, that really destroys it for me is his voice. Let me just say, I love John Dimaggio. Bender is a god (he even was once) and I would bite his shiney metal a$$ if he asked me to. I also love the Truck Driver voice which is so close to MF's it make me wonder why I hate it so. I guess its context. As illiterate truck driver the voice is great, as cliched space marine, I want to play the game with the sound off. Probably the dialogue has loads to do with it too, with Gears lines amounting to not much more than C'mon, lets goes shoots thems guyses. If anyone had ever asked me could a voice sour my impression for a game so much I would have said no way, but here I am, standing corrected.

Just for the record if it sounds like I'm nitpicking, thats not the only thing I dont like about Gears, not by a long shot, but like I said I dont want to get into that here.
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Cajun Chicken - 358 days 12 hours ago
9.4 - True, maybe I shouldn't of brought that up so much...
Changing the subject back to Killzone 2, I hope that it has likable characters, like we were just talking about above.

I really don't want Guerilla to be doing the same thing we talked about above with the protaganists in Killzone 2 as that would turn out to be a major flaw in my view.
I just hope the characters are more like the guys from CoD4 as I think they were brilliantly fleshed out, poor Price. Or even like Halo characters, I like the cast of the Halo series, I have a real feel for all the lead characters. Especially MC, Cortana and Sarge; such a great trinity of sci-fi, but believable, human in soul characters.
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LONEWOLF231 - 358 days 13 hours ago
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Looks to me like PCworld is worried!
This game is actually making them sweat!
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butterfinger - 358 days 13 hours ago
11 - As many have said...
before, I do not really see why Killzone 2 needs to be anything other than a wonderfully polished FPS. If Killzone 2 can deliver the graphics, gameplay, epic battles, and addictive online multiplayer (all things that it looks to have), it will be one of (if not the best) titles on the market. I pre-ordered at Gamestop already (I always do, so I didn't just 'pay for a demo'), and it didn't seem like a lot of people had done the same. However, I found it interesting that according to Gamestop's website, Killzone 2 is their best-selling game right now (something that MGS4 barely accomplished upon release) and has been for over a week. I'm not keeping my hopes up too high, but this does seem like a game that could be a major hit sales-wise for Sony and GG as well as critically. I hope that all PS3 owners will come out to show their support for a game that we've all waited a long time for now.

http://www.gamestop.com/bro...
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dkgshiz - 358 days 13 hours ago
12 - people are dumb
Why cant people just admit the PS3 has good games? I admit the 360 has good games. I mean R2, KZ2, GOW 3,MGS4, LBP, motorstorm 1,2, Heavy Rain,Uncharted, Uncharted 2, GT5P, GT5, Resistance fall of man, Heavenly Sword, are all good games, all of them are PS3 exclusives. I admit the PS3 had a pretty poor launch. But thats way in the past. The PS3 has tons of games to play. Saying the PS3 has no games is just completely retarded. People need to take there blinders off. So many people miss out on good games because there huge fanboys. Its really sad.
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callahan09 - 358 days 13 hours ago
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It's not that I disagree with what you say, but it doesn't belong here. It's not in response to anyone, clearly, because nobody here today said the PS3 has no games.
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