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Parapraxis
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LOL, it's probably just really warm at the show.
I would love to check this out.
They need to emply some better design into the glasses though.
Looks like something out of the early 90's.
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i have a pair of those 3D glasses right now
yeah, a better design would be nice.
give it a more futuristic look.
i wonder if/when this tech will be standard in gaming.
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lol, just ignore them.
that's why agrees/disagrees don't phase me.
but yeah, i'm sure the PS3 or whatever will do the wet-work
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I already got a 3D set i'm just waiting for the technology to catch up my pc already outputs 3d but i want ps3 XD
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1.6 - He sho' does have a purty mouth...don't he, Roscoe?
*strums banjo*
Giddity!
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my most recent viewing of 3D was at the San Francisco's Metreon in the iMax cinema. They displayed the last 30 minutes of the last Harry potter movie in 3D. It was unreal. like the actors were performing right infront of my eyes. 3D tech has potential.
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Michael Jackson
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"Is it just me or is frank wearing make up on his cheeks?"
Nope, it's not just you. Apparently, he borrowed some from your purse. xD
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1.9 - Those were the same glasses handed out...
When people went to watch Beowulf in 3D!
I don't mind wearing these glasses. But is there ANY POSSIBLE WAY to make a regular HDTV display 3D?
I don't think people would want to spend $1-2,000 on another HDTV just to play their games in 3D.
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hay
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I it'll be PS3 based, as some 3D movies you can watch on ordinary TV. Cool stuff either way, can't wait to get immersed.
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1.12 - So would thia make it...
PS3-D FTW? If it could do all games in 3-D, that would be a pretty cool deal. Gimmicky, but definitely cool.
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Frankly it wouldn't surprise me that Sony would be playing around with other HD technologies to make them a reality on the PS3. Lord knows they are going to every length to make the PS3 the best viable value on the market to make up for it's increased price. Lord knows just the BD playback in native 1080p is great. On top of that, the built in g-Band Wi-Fi is a great addition and the painless wireless media interface. The simple value of the console is simply the best full HD experience for the money. On top of the value of the console, you can change out the HDD for a larger one to keep large amounts of media on for cheap compared to the 360. Want a 500GB HDD? For 100 dollars you can make that a realty. The largest 360 HDD, the 120GB model? 135 dollars for their proprietary model. The PS3 offers the most HD freedoms for the price. Simply put, for the full HD experience, the PS3 is the best price.
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Michael Jackson
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1.14 - @Ryudo
Uhh.. Read my comment again. I said no, it's not just you. Meaning, I agree with you that he IS wearing makeup. Who's the R-tard, now? lol
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mega BIG time
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give me some DOA in 3d :]
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They do have the technology to make a TV in 3D. In fact Superman Returns was the first film shot with this technology in mind. But like everyone else has said, HD tvs still have not penetrated enough homes for people to go out and get the upgrade. It will probably be about 10 years before 3D TVs become household items.
I think Sony should release one 3D game to see how it does. I mean if we have learned anything from Nintendo it is that peripherals move software. They don't need to convert their whole library to 3D just see how popular 1 game would be in 3D if it becomes a jugernut than release more. I think People would by a 3D game on PS3 like hotcakes.
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1.17 - @rockleex
Yes you can make a standard tv display 3D, but it cuts the frame rate in half.
The glasses have LCD shutters on them that alternate between open and closed. since standard tvs have a refresh rate of 60Hz it would be divided up between your two eyes resulting in 30Hz per eye.
It works but it will give you a head ache.
Another interesting feature you could do with a 120Hz Tv is 2 player full screen.
Instead of having 2 player split screen each player would take up the full screen, but be displayed every other cycle.
Its more demanding on the console though so detail would likely have to be cut back.
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player911
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1.18 - This is nothing new
This is the same technology I had in the 90's. Any monitor can do it and any system can do it. All the system does it split the screen into two view points and the glasses have shutters on them, which open and close opposite of the other.
I think I picked up a pair in the late 90's for like $50 for a wireless pair. I still have them actually.
Those "magical" 3D TV's are nothing more then a TV with the software built in. There is no need for special code or a special platform for this to work.
Heck I played the original Quake with those 3D glasses (tells you how long its been out). I've since played Unreal series, Quake, Doom, StarCraft, WoW, etc.
All you need to make it work on your PC are the Stereo NVidia Drivers and a pair of glasses. The frame rate doesn't exactly fall by 50% just because it has to draw 2 different view points. While it does take a minor hit, all of the graphics seen on the screen are already stored in the RAM from drawing the first screen
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For everybody asking if you need a specific TV. You apparently don't cause I have the TV they are showing it on and I'm really glad because I almost bought a Samsung. If you read the article you will see him wearing glasses and they are not shutter glasses.
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1.20 - @ 1.6
You mean "Giggity"
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1.21 - @ Beast Master
Actually, Superman Returns was shot on the Genesis in standard 2D workflow. The 3D effect was added later. Cameron has designed a camera with Sony that consists of 2 imagers feeding into a master deck - essentially recreating the stereoscopic way that our eyes see. Journey to the Center of the Earth was the first wide release film to use this tech, though Cameron released two IMAX docs that were shot using the first generation of this system.
The tech does exist to turn a normal display into 3D and it doesn't require a new TV. Basically it's a refractive film that is placed over the display, similar to the way holographic posters work. I don't know how far along the tech is or how expensive it will be in the consumer market, but Sony may be using this. The benefit is it doesn't require glasses and can be fitted to any screen - TV's, laptops, phones, etc. All it requires is a 3D signal from the source.
I can see this being very exciting to the games industry, akin to when polygons first hit the scene.
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peedie16
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this could be cool
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3 - omg
i couldnt have picked a better game to have in 3-d. 1080p, 60 fps, and in 3d?! Plus Wipeout is just plain awesomesauce! the ps3 is too amazing!
Edit: Gran Turismo? *faints*
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3.1 - I think they will definitely apply this to...
Eyepet!!! ^_^
It will REALLY feel like you're interacting with a virtual pet! >:D
Anyways, imagine the next exclusive horror game for the PS3. You're walking down a dark hallway, you notice a shadow had just moved... then BAM! The monster JUMPS OUT OF THE SCREEN AT YOU!!! >:D
Especially if that horror game utilized the PS Eye for interactivity! ^_^
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Sony is really leading the charge into 3D gaming.I guarantee out of MS,Nintendo,Sony.It will be Sony to bring 3D gaming to the public.
Look at eye of judgment for example.Eye Pet as well !
Imagine Wipeout HD in full 1080 @60 FPS in 3D.
Makes my mouth water just thinking about it..
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Sony will bring out 3D. Microsoft will bring out 'ThreeD'.
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Eye of Judgment is so cool. Any collectible card game player from the past or present should check it out. It's a great game with a great set of rules and great cards, and the camera integration is absolutely brilliant. Watching your cards come to life is very cool, and the ability to play online without needing to actually find someone in real life to play against is the icing on the cake.
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player911
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4.3 - Ummm
Sorry, but PC's had this ability 10 years ago. PS3 isn't doing anything revolutionary. They're just making light of old technology
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I want to see AND PLAY Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, and God of War 3 in 3D :)
Sony brought Killzone 2 and Infamous to CES, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did show Killzone 2 in 3D!!
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oh man..that would be completely awesome. Imagine playing Killzone 2, or any fps, and have the illusion of rockets and tracer rounds flying at you. Or GOW 3 and fighting the huge Titans and, like the Colossus battle in GOW 2, fighting it head on in 3D.
I hope that this is something that a) can be outfitted within the next few years; b) integral to the PS4.
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hay
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Combine it with headtracking and what you'll have?
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player911
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5.3 - Combine it with headtracking
That is that they need to do.
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...O_O
...Wow.
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7 - This is big.
This is a huge leap in the right direction.
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Agreed. I'd buy it with my money I've been saving up so dearly. Question though, how would people with glasses use those? Like I was thinking about that because you know those stereoscopic pictures, where you cross your eyes and focus to see a picture in 3D, people in glasses can't do that. Goggles might work? Ya know, ones that go over the glasses? lol.
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hay
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Basically this is stereoscopic vision based on human's sight. In games and movies you have one camera that shows you everything. In stereoscopy you'll have two from slightly different angles. When you put glasses on those will be combined into one picture which will try to simulate sense of depth.
Great example may be anaglyphic vision where you have "weird colored pictures"(bluish-reddish) and cyan/red glasses to filter the vision.
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LOL screw 3-D,give us 4-D SONY!!
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What is 4D anyway?
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This is 4D.
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4d is just simply width height depth and time not sure why people keep saying wheres the 4d time has been implemented in many games
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Not really, the only games I can think of off the top of my head is Motorstorm, and thats because of the ground deterioration. 4D in a game would be the pro/regression of textures or models over a length of virtual time, so to be technical, Motorstorm doesn't even do that because it depends on vehicles driving over the terrain, kind of like a destructible environment. That won't count because the user is manipulating the texture/models.
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8.5 - 4-D programming is the dynamic rendering of procedural textures.
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I'll give you a few examples, because when you see how it's been used already, you can see other effects
- The weakest example would be bullet holes in walls, people, etc. because in terms of time and design, it's not progressive, but instantaneous. Furthermore, the the rendering is done entirely differently. An argument can be made that if you consider the overall changes to the wall in reference to time elapsed in the game, the changes could be considered "4D"; that works in the purest dimensional sense, but in game programming terms though, it doesn't. I believe that there would have to be Dynamic rendering of textures for it to be considered 4-D.
- One stronger example that I can give is when you play in the mud in Motorstorm and your vehicle gets dirtier throughout the race. I say stronger because the rendering is simple, but still valid.
- The strongest example I can give people so far is in MGS4. In MGS4 Snake's suit can change dynamically... 4D programming is the dynamic rendering of procedural textures. You can see another example when you fight Crying Wolf and when you go into the barrel that snow accumulates on the barrel.
I'm sure there are other examples, but I'm too tired. I need to finish up and take a nap.
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a dimension of time....hmmm....oh I dont know. How about Fable1&2(age progression, seasons, ect), The GTA Series(Night & Day Cycles), Timeshift(time manipulation), Animal Crossing Series(live time gameplay).....many more. The 4th Dimension is time. A lot of games have made TIME a factor in them. I dont understand why we try to complicate these things.
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show amazing things at CES . :)
(Expect MS 2 copy sony)
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Ah, they are still busy catching up with LBP. LOL.
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Sony tell MS to step aside and teach them how to REALLY do a CES.. KODU?! LOL its already confirmed Sony are going to showcase Killzone 2, infamous and Heavy rain tommorow night.. those 3 alone are enough to blow MS's CES out of the water.. 3d gaming demonstration will be icing on the cake
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I wonder if they'll show anything new.
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Right, so relatively minor PS3 related announcements completely do over MSs' multi billion dollar OS demonstration? Okay then.
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We're talking about videogames. Windows 7 isn't a new game, or a new way of playing games.
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n4gzz
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interesting. will see how it goes.
BTY,
I preordered KZ2 and RE5 paid in full today. Got my demo card for killzone2. I am super excited for feb 5th and 27th.
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i preordered those exact games.
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LMFAO at your disagree
Now I can sleep with a smile on my face lmao
I'm waiting until they announce a KZ2 LE or CE so I can pre-order that. Lucky bastard, you'll play it before everyone else :(
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2 - Meh.
Until you can have something 3D without the need to wear glasses or some mask then I will care. By the way, people who already wear glasses will be screwed anyways.
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*sees DNAgent one year from now wearing 3D glassed playing the playstation3 despite what he says*
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3 - interesting...
I'm pleased sony is thinking about 3D...
shame its only a fake demo...
Something more real and substantial would have been more appreciated though...
Keep going sony!
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And maybe soon you could buy a fan for wind effects and have a tube up your nose for the full 'Playsmell' experience!
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