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Assassin's Creed 2 - Will it be the revolution we are hoping for?

They seek him here, they seek him there, those Frenchies seek him everywhere.
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Published: 390 days 18 hours ago | Article | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360 | PC
 
 

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XboxOZ360 - 390 days 18 hours ago
1.1 -
Please explain mate?

Assassin's creed delivered what it said it would. It's a story based on the theory of genetics and how the past plays a part in the current times and visa-versa.

The whole thing will run over many centuries and include several iterations. It certainly wasn't made as a once-off production, that's for sure.
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chaosatom - 390 days 18 hours ago
1.2 - They Don't need a Revolution, but a Evolution.
Have Fun missions, Big Boss battles.

New Locals, and Etc.
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gaminoz - 390 days 18 hours ago
1.3 -
Boss battles maybe, but not with the HUGE GIGANTIC RIDICULOUSLY LARGE baddies we see too often in games now.

Here's a thought...the boss is just normal sized but skilled?

Anyway where do you think it should go, if you want it to have a new environement?
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arika - 390 days 18 hours ago
1.4 - i beg to disagree.
if it was an exclusive ps3 game it might have a chance to be something special, but from the way things are looking i doubt it, because i think they have maxed out the potential on dvd-9, and because developers want to make it look the same on both consoles, then it might be good but not extraordinary.
just take a look at gears of war 2 and you will see what i mean about dvd-9 potential being maxed out.
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XboxOZ360 - 390 days 18 hours ago
1.5 - @ chaosatom
It's based around believable historic events, not fictional monsters and big-boss fights mate. If you want that, grab Ninja Gaiden II.
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gaminoz - 390 days 17 hours ago
1.6 -
@ Arika,

What a load of fanboy rubbish. Until the PS3 really puts something out there that proves the whole Blu Ray is better thing (and even MGS4 and Uncharted, which are top notch games with great graphics don't prove this), just give up will you?

I have yet to play a PS3 game (and yes I have a PS3) that blows 360 games out of the water "because Blu Ray is better". Utter drivel.
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XboxOZ360 - 390 days 17 hours ago
1.7 - @ arika
What a load of onesided rubbish ..

If DVD9 was maxed out, how come Far Cry 2 is such a leap forward on the format, with still room to spare and with more memory to spare.

I spoke to the producers and creative directors of Far Cry 2 and they said there's still heaps of un-tapped abilities on the DVD9 format they haven't even looked at. This helps them keep the cost of thegames down andthe quality up.

I've played heaps of FC 2 so far, built some amazing maps, which is one of THE BEST map editors on the market today, and the weather effects, fire etc are all brilliant.

This is/was all possible on BOTH PS3 and 360 without any real differences whatsoever. Yet with the PC versions, you had to have stronger Graphics cards and more memory, showing that the DVD9 is no where near dead yet.

AC was and still is an amazing game. I had a friend from Iran living with me atm, and he's just amazed at the quality, and he remarked on how close to reality the c=game is with regards to environments and terrain etc. So I think he'd know better than any of us as to whether or not the game deplicted the area and the times better than you or I.

Stop being so one-eyed and fanboish and simply see innovation for what it is within the industry.

So many gamers complain about no developers taking risks, yet when they do, they (gamers) expect 110% perfection straight off the bat. Which in all things is basically impossible.
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buy a ps3 - 390 days 17 hours ago
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a blu-ray disc is 5 time the size as the disc the 360 uses that is a fact that has been proven. no game has blown the 360 out of the water but games like MGS4 and resistance 2 have started to make the DVD disc that the 360 uses look smaller. we will have to wait for Killzone 2 for the 360 to be blown out of the water.
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xhi4 - 390 days 17 hours ago
1.9 - @gaminoz
Are you fu**in serious?

UNCHARTED and GT PROLOGUE.........

if that doesn't satisfy you (as those graphics can't sadly be done on the 360)

then 3 words and one number.

Metal Gear Solid 4.

BOOM.

Ryan Payton AND Hideo Kojima have continuously stated THIS GAME WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT BLU-RAY TECHNOLOGY, even in the game they make a joke about 'other systems' not being capable of running MGS4.

If you still think that using a next gen format compared to an old gen (DVD) format that is statistically declining fast then I can't help you there mate, no one can.
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GUNS N SWORDS - 390 days 17 hours ago
1.10 - hmmmm
the problems that they came across with the last game.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/20...

still, I'm so ever eagerly interested in the future of this game :)

edit, btw a quick review on how both versions ended out from IGN.

http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...
http://ps3.ign.com/articles...
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XboxOZ360 - 390 days 17 hours ago
1.11 - @buy a ps3
Ask any developer straight to their face, not via some 3rd, party "a friend of a friend said" thing, and they will tell you it has nothing to do with Blu-Ray or the capacity of the Blu-Ray disc. In fact, many find it a hinderance, not a blessing.

It also isn't about SIZE of anything really, as explained by Clint Hockings from Far Cry 2 when I interviewed him, which made the game for PC, PS3 and 360. It comes down to one major thing.

Becoming tech-smart with what you HAVE got, not what you haven;t got and think you need.

He, and others have now found ways to use LESS Memory for more complicated games such as PGR4, GRiD, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, FallOut 3 etc etc without having or needing more memory than a mere 512 mgs of ram.

As pointed out by him, and other guys at Ubisoft we interviewed from different games appearing on all platforms, it has helped them master the development of the games, use and create MUCH better game engines because they HAVE to build for a smaller file size and they HAVE to build to use less memory.

As pointed out by them, and others, if they were given and open cheque book of file sizes, they would get lazy (their words, not mine) and simply create over bloated games that did nothing more than trim games could.

Blu-Ray is excellent for movie HD fedelity delivery, there's no question on that. But games on Blu_ray suffer huge problems,and even the developer of MGS4 said he'd prefer to make the game on a much more "universal" format so more ppl could experience his game/s.

Stop seeing Blu-Ray as the coming of christ for games, it is not. It is brilliant for movies, there's no doubting that, but ask any major developer, and they'll gladly stick with DVD-9, and DirX11 when it ships later in '09 early 2010
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chaosatom - 390 days 17 hours ago
1.12 - Um............Can we get back to
Assassins creed 2
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buy a ps3 - 390 days 16 hours ago
1.13 - chaosatom in a second first i must prove a point
XboxOZ360 games like ff13 MIGHT have to go on to more then one disc on the 360 but because of blu-ray for the ps3 they will be able to fit it on to one disc. blu-ray is great for first party developers and developers that are making big games. blu-ray is nothing more then more memory.
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Danja - 390 days 16 hours ago
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Blu Ray is great for games...ne one who thinks it's only good for movies is obviously delusional.

M$ stuck with DVD9 bcuz they had no choice at the time...since they wanted to launch the 360 at an affordable price and adding an HD-DVD drive would have put it in the PS3 price range which would have killed the 360 instantly...

Back on topic : Im looking for to AC2..I really enjoyed the 1st game even though it was flawed...they just need to Give us a better variety of mission , harder Boss Battles , and most important a revamped fighting system.....
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shovelbum - 389 days 20 hours ago
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Loved the first game. I was really fascinated by the character and the gameplay unlike many of you who complain about it being too repetitive and boring. I was playing a different game than you were obviously. As for the Revolution possibilities, it would be a great time for Altair to visit just as the author stated. Look forward to it.
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pain777pas - 389 days 18 hours ago
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This is Ubisoft guys lets cut them some slack. They make great games some of the best to be honest and who can say that they learned nothing from AC1. The games was ambitious and the engine is amazing all they have to do really is execute based on the feedback which I think is almost a sure thing and they have one of the best new games series' back on track.
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ngg12345 - 390 days 18 hours ago
2 - Yes
It is even easier now, and includes even better platforming (you don't even have to walk right next to the wall to get on it, it will teleport you to the neccessary wall to complete a mission.
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gaminoz - 390 days 18 hours ago
2.1 -
The first game may have had repetitive missions, repetitive combat, and for hardcore gamers was too easy, but what it did have was an amazing environment to explore freely and a very good recreation of a time and place.

Fluid motion and ease of use climbing a seamless environment were good things imo. It was a game that could be played by both casual newbies and more experienced gamers.

It was just over-hyped and we all had active imaginations of what we thought it would be.

Besides, its about WHERE you think AC2 should be set. I sure hope it's still in the past.
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Immortal Kaim - 390 days 18 hours ago
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I think people need to appreciate AC for what it is, an intriguing game set in an amazing time period. The scope of the game was immense, environments beautifully realised and the city-scapes were faithful recreations of historically important locations.

It was for me more than just a game, it was an experience.

I would personally love to see AC2 (or 3) go to ancient Greece, specifically during the upheaval of the Ionian Revolt and subsequent beginning of the Persian Wars...
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gaminoz - 390 days 17 hours ago
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@ Immortal Kaim

Not a bad idea! Greece has been done a lot in games but not historical Greece...just fantasy mythic Greece.
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darkmurder - 390 days 18 hours ago
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Very plausible situation, as long as they just add more diversity to the game then I shall consider picking this one up!
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gaminoz - 390 days 18 hours ago
4 - I Vote NO for ninjas!
There's lots of time periods I'd love to see AC in, but in the East with Ninjas is not one of them!

I know at the end of the game there looked like Asian writing, but I'm really hoping no.
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Immortal Kaim - 390 days 17 hours ago
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I remember at the end of AC, one of the writings said Quezacolt? I'm not exactly sure but isn't it some type of mythical Aztec bird god? Maybe it could be set during the reign of the Aztecs?
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XboxOZ360 - 390 days 17 hours ago
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We can definitely do without ANY bloody ninja's in Assassin's Creed. The storyline doesn't even warrant it. The only thing that does is gamers wanting mindless hack-n-slash games with no real purpose other than fighting Big Boss Battles and combos for points etc. Get a life.

It has been interesting though. A study was conducted by some ppl on who plays/played AC and who liked it V's who didn't.

It seems there's two distinct age groups. Those UNDER 18-20 found the game boring and unadventurous, while those over found it deep thought provoking, and willing to put the "time" and energy into playing the game as it was designed. Interesting.
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TOO PAWNED - 390 days 17 hours ago
5 -
So will we eventually go back in time period when our ancestors walked on this planet with dinosaurs by their side? I mean thats what Sarah Pallin told us, and it was just 4000 years ago, so why not?
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XboxOZ360 - 390 days 16 hours ago
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Well the Game To End All Wars is taking us back to the time of WWI, which will test many gamers paitence and skills. No automatic guns or indistructable tanks. Tanks were nothing more than trucks with sheet metal attached to the sides in many cases, those that were specifically built were slow, cumbersome, had poor range and were death traps.

70% of casualties came from friendly and axis fire, and more than half were from bayonettes, not gut fire in close combat situations.

So yes, some developers will take us back, and hopefully open many a gamers eyes to what it was really like, and not glorify the world of war.
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Whoooop - 390 days 17 hours ago
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The only good thing about Ass Creed was riding the horse...
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anubis12 - 390 days 16 hours ago
7 -
cavemen....
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anubis12 - 390 days 16 hours ago
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graphics..............check this sh!t ouy

NEW RIDDICK GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://news.teamxbox.com/xb...

EDIT----- 360 is capable of superb graphics

EDIT EDIT---------- It will be that sequel plus the original Escape from Butcher Bay, remade for the new generation of consoles.....SWEET
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XboxOZ360 - 390 days 16 hours ago
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Both consoles are capable of excellent graphics, if developers do their job right that is.

With Assassin's Creed 2, we are sure to see that level lifted. Don't think that because the first game (any game) looked great, that better graphics would not be capable unless a better machine came along. That's rubbish from the start, and single minded fanboi thinking.

As they get used to the systems, they find ways to exploit what they HAVE,not what they do NOT have. The step up in PGR4 from PGR3 was great, with many saying weather etc could not be possible unless put onto 4 DVD9 discs . . well hello, they did it, and with room to spare if you check out the disc's engraving paths.

SO expect a lift in graphics and gameplay with each iteration, irrespective of the format, but many developers now choosing to go Multiplatform MUST build games for the DVD9, as a HUGE % of the buying market, (read not hardcore)use and own DVD9 players, andthey are one of THE highest sellers in all electronic stores world wide.

So if YOU had a development studio, and you NEEDED to sell 3 million copies world wide in 2 weeks, would you do it on a format that had a large but somewhat limited user base (compaired to the broader userbase of the other format) - or produce your game on a fofmat that played on BOTH systems and give excellent quality in doing so in HD.

Unless you're a complete fanboi or business idiot, then you'd choose the one that gave you optimum sales in the shortest period of time. As believe it or not, all games have just a 2 week window in which to sell the maximum games they can, after that, the trickle that comes in does not make a huge difference. The stockholders who invest the $$ into future games want to see instant return and fast sales. So a format that is universally accepted from all users is the format that gets used the most, irrespective of which one is better - or not.
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Gambit07 - 390 days 15 hours ago
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AC=my most disappointed game of my life
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gaminoz - 390 days 14 hours ago
10 - Back on topic: So where do you want AC2 set?
On topic: where and what time period would you like to see AC2 set in?
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n4gzz - 390 days 13 hours ago
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assassin creed could be one the best game for me if it was not so repetitive. I loved everything else story, gameplay, graphic, all those npcs but game was very repetitive.
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XboxOZ360 - 390 days 13 hours ago
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Well I defintely do not want it in the East with Ninja's, but somewhere logical for the story would be best . . .France would make sense, as there's another game based around similar things called "the Crossing" using the Assassin's of the past flickering between two world (very much like AC.

It's set in a similar period in France both in modern day and around the late 1700's early 1800 I think.
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poeo - 390 days 12 hours ago
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hmm, seems like most people looking back at Assassin's Creed now think it was a great game. funny, since i remember the cries of hordes of disappointed gamers when it released, and lots of average reviews (IGN gave a 7 or something).

i loved it though, maybe thanks to many people calling it crap, it ended up surprising me positively... the graphics were astounding, story interesting, the music awesome, and the repetitiveness wasnt so bad because the core gameplay mechanics were solid, climbing buildings was a lot of fun... all in all, looking back and compared to many other big releases that have come after AC (GTAIV as good as it was didnt have that much to do either, and had repetitive gameplay), it was a stellar game.

on topic though, from what i understood of the ending in the first game, the next one should take place at an island in Japan. but it was rather cryptic so... i dunno, i would bet on Japan. but no matter the location, i'm sure they have added more stuff to do this time, and with even better graphics, this game should be pretty incredible for me at least.
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Acj2323 - 390 days 12 hours ago
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I really liked AC, people said it was bad, but even with the repetitiveness of the story line the inner beauty shined through to give it such a experience, im looking forward to number 2
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yourgodisdead - 390 days 4 hours ago
15 - hmmm
I think that any of those ideas would be good, the guns would make it more interesting, tweak the graphics and game play a little and i think it could play out fairly well.
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mugoldeneagle03 - 390 days 1 hour ago
16 - Um.
Revolution and Assassins Creed should never be in the same sentence.

Ever.
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