The Gadget Show- BluRay vs DVD Upscale

WANNA GET HIGH - 395 days 2 hours ago

BU BU BUT BLU RAY = Fail and DVD is just as good ......!!!

GTFO... :/

BLU RAY = WIN

PS3 Games that use blu ray propley = what the 360 can never do.....

But im still keeping both consoles ;-D

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UnwanteDreamz - 395 days 1 hour ago

How much do you wanna bet all those "idiots" who have been saying that upscaled DVD is just as good don't show up for their slice of humble pie?

I have been waiting for this since I popped in my first BR in my PS3. I did a video comparison at home because my black monster also upscales DVD.

Results = GTFO no comparison at all for true HD you gotta pop in that BR disc.

LMAO at the haters.

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sloth4urluv - 395 days ago

Yeah, I have someone at work who says they cant tell the difference between Blu-ray and DVD.

Maybe he has bad eyes or something. To me the difference is night and day.

Ive been waiting for a while to get a Blu-ray player. Think maybe ill pick up a PS3 for chirstmas or something.

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BulletToothtony - 395 days ago

are people who don't have an hdtv.. they really don't know what they're talking about.. someone who i know doesn't have an hdtv said.. all bluray does is that it makes green colors look greener... which sadly some people live in this big denial..

Bluray is a new technology and it rocks.. it's here to stay fellas.. accept it.

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Elven6 - 395 days ago

Its common for people to not see a difference, many of those people really start noticing the difference when they have to go from pure HD programming to SD to realize what they were missing out on.

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superaktieboy - 394 days 23 hours ago

me having a bad eye, i can't seem to tell much difference my self.. unless i remove my contact lenses and go like proper close.. so i dunno..

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eagle21 - 394 days 23 hours ago

No mention of a DVD in this ad. They talked about perfecting the picture and the crystal clear picture plus HD sound. The 60 sec. commercial ended with "own it on Blu-ray". The commercial directly following it was the "Entertainment Unleashed" PS3 tv spot. It featured many PS3 games and The Dark Knight Blu-ray. Pure ownage! :)

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xwabbit - 394 days 21 hours ago

LOL YAH

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M_Prime - 394 days 19 hours ago

well i have a SD 50" TV and BLU RAY and DVD look about the same to me..

but i have seen the diff on a HD tv.. the BLU RAY looks better but for me BLU RAY does nothing..

hell if you watch SD programming on a HD TV it looks like A$$, and i see the difference in about 2 seconds. HD is the future but if you still have a SD TV then BLU RAY is just an expensive DVD

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likedamaster - 394 days 14 hours ago

"Only an idiot thinks upscaled dvd is close.

This video is clear proof."

The video is not "clear proof". I personally can see the difference on MY tvs, with both a bluray and an upscaling dvd player but surely not in this video. And for the record, movies on my non-upscaling dvd player looks just as good. Bluray movies have a clear picture and better sound but it is not a "major leap" over DVD. Sorry, if you expected something else that's just my opinion on it.

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alexM - 394 days 14 hours ago

Likedamaster

U never own a Blu Ray drive or ps3

stop trolling here

There is a massive difference between the images. Others see AVS FORUMS comparisons

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SL1M DADDY - 394 days 12 hours ago

Many only comment on the picture being "clearer" but I have two other aspects that turn my head and that is color and sound. Not only are the frames clearer and sharper but the colors in BD are much more vibrant and the sound is simply amazing. That is why I go BD now and have yet to buy a single DVD since the PS3 came out. I have hundreds of DVD's still and have replaced a few of them since but that is a whole other story for a later thread.

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gaffyh - 394 days 11 hours ago

Where have all the retards like POG and Omega4 gone in this thread?

Lol.

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prowiew - 394 days 10 hours ago

To me it depends on the tv you have. My hdtv is almost 4 years old and when I watch a blu ray, I dont see much difference from my upscaled dvd.

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kopicha - 394 days 10 hours ago

I have already mention this at least a million times saying that those who cant see and hear the difference should get their eyesight n hearing checked from their family doctor. Well those ppl are just ignorant if they aint blind for making claims that DVD upscale look as good.

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wallace1000 - 394 days 5 hours ago

@ CrippleH - "Only an idiot thinks upscaled dvd is close" This is a very stupid comment to make. There are many factors to consider here, size of TV owned, quality of TV owned, viewing distance, eye sight, there are many factors that rule out the use of uneducated blanket statements like yours.
I personally love the increased sound and picture quality that you achieve with blu-ray but then again i have a quality HD TV that is large enough to show the difference in PQ at the distance that i sit from the TV and an HDMI receiver. I also have 20/15 vision. Many people are not in the same boat as myself so they may not appreciate the difference in PQ and lets face it, some people still watch VHS.
Just because you own a PS3 doesn't mean you have to post stupid comment to support blu-ray. I support blu-ray and i don't own a PS3 and you don't see me spouting stupid comments. Then again the maturity level of many members on this site is quite low.
The other problem with blu-ray that the video pointed out is the cost-benefit analysis that you have to go through. Blu-ray is still pricey but once the discs themselves hit the price of current new release DVD versions of the same movie and the players drop another $100 across the board, then i think adoption will take off.
@ superaktieboy - it doesn't matter that you have a bad eye you should still be able to see the difference apparently, I feel sorry for the people with the low IQ that disagreed with your comment.

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phosphor112 - 394 days 2 hours ago

Because they are watching the freaking BD(yes its BD not BR) movies on SDTVs! WOWOWOWOW, I knew something was wrong when some people i knew said DVD looked the same, until they watched both on my friends 57" HDTV, then they cried at how dumb they are.

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wallace1000 - 394 days 2 hours ago

Bravo and +bubbles for mentioning a screen size and not just typing "blu-ray FTW" like so many other people. I agree that if you are watching blu-ray on a 57 inch HDTV at the correct viewing distance and you can not see a difference then something is wrong.
Whether or not people are willing to pay for that difference though is another matter entirely.

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darthv72 - 394 days 2 hours ago

Bluray has a marketing slogan of: "Without bluray, your hdtv is just...tv".

I think it can go both ways. "Without hdtv your bluray is just...dvd".

Those who dont have hdtv definitely NEED one in order to really see what blu has to offer. Not only improving the movie experience but everything. I can't even watch cable on a regular tv after seeing it on my 42" samsung.

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wallace1000 - 394 days 1 hour ago

Well said darthv72

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Armyless - 394 days 20 hours ago

I've been playing HD games and movies since then and there's no going back.

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bumnut - 394 days 14 hours ago

ive been playing hd games for about 10 years now

upscaling can't come close to bluray but upscaling is still needed because people still have dvd collections.

why should people buy all there movies again just because a new format comes out?

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Jenzo - 394 days 14 hours ago

Exactly. Only idiots would do that.

I don't think they have a problem rebuying movies they own on DVD though. They don't watch the movies, they watch the quality of the picture. Kind of like people who play games because of the graphics and not because it's fun. These are the same persons that usually feel a desperate need to show off their new gadgets to friends.

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Vip3r - 394 days 6 hours ago

What makes you think people rebuy their films on Blu-ray again? Or it that the only did you can have at blu-ray?

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Eddie20101 - 394 days 22 hours ago

It doesn't matter what size HDTV you have there is a huge difference between Blu-Ray and Upscale DVD. I have a 26 inch HDTV and a 42 inch HDTV and Blu-Ray looks much better on both. Uscaling DVD does improve the Picture on HDTV's but not enough to really compete with Blu-Ray. Nothing beats a true high def (Blu-Ray) Picture.

Not trying to sound like a commercial but Blu-Ray is the best.

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jlemdon - 394 days 7 hours ago

I watched a blu-ray movie at a buddies house on his ps3 (he don't have a HDTV) and it looks the same. but when I watch blu-ray on 42 inch 1080P it just looks soooo marvelous.

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iHEARTboobs - 395 days ago

That girl is hott! While everyone was drawn to the screen playing the blu-ray, i was drawn to her and those legs! Schwing!

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Theoneneo81 - 395 days 1 hour ago

a fool or hd dvd suporter oh wait there same thing ;)

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Skadoosh - 395 days 1 hour ago

Yeah I use the ps3 to watch my burned blurays. Works like a charm. They had a good sale on blank blurays for $5 each not to long ago.

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beavis4play - 395 days 1 hour ago

if you are a pirate......you're part of the reason discs cost what they do!!!

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BrotherNick - 395 days ago

Yeah I guess. It'll get cheaper anyways.

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Oner - 395 days ago

BD-R's $5.28 a piece ~ http://www.tapeandmedia.com...

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aiphanes - 395 days 1 hour ago

DLC is for quick watching...you will never see good 1080p DLC...the bandwidth is not there....

DLC will complement DVD and Bluray.

Bluray is 1080p real HD video and sound
DVD is 480p...for casual viewing and for people who do not have HDTVs.
DLC is for casual viewing and for people with out 1080p HDTVs and who have good internet bandwidth.

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Skadoosh - 395 days 1 hour ago

DLC is worse than DVD??? How so??? Or are you one of those sony fanboys that talk out of your bunghole? The 360 has 720p downloads and its highly agreed that 720p and 1080p shows no difference unless you own a 60 inch tv. The majority of hi def tv's are 42inches and 50 inches and their is absolute no difference in 720p and 1080p.

UnwantedDreamz...
"I knew this was coming. Let me be the first to school you. People want a disc that they can hold in their hands"

Tell that to the music industry.

Sure you did dude. It's common knowledge that 720p and 1080p has zero difference with a tv 50 inches or below. If you can see a difference your either Superman or just a talking bunghole spewing out crap.

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Mr Tretton - 395 days 1 hour ago

DLC will do fine in rentals, but not in purchased product. You can't sell, lend, borrow, or trade, a DL.

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UnwanteDreamz - 395 days 1 hour ago

I knew this was coming. Let me be the first to school you. People want a disc that they can hold in their hands. DDL will not win crap until it is widely accepted as being superior and even then people want a movie collection not a file collection. The disc is no where near dieing. Hold yer breath I dont see your future coming anytime soon.

@ skadoosh

I tested your theory at home with a downloaded movie and the BR version I own. Guess what? You guessed it you are full of it. I have done my homework like a responsible consumer BR has better quality then current DDL. LMAO at you calling anyone a fanboy with your comment. Tell us all what kind of BR player you used for your comparison or are you just BSing us?

Edit: I knew you would bring up the music industry. Apples and oranges hahaha you cant compare one to the other because the people who drive those markets are in different demographics. Older, less likley to adopt DDL, people drive home movie sales younger people, more likley to support DDL, drive music sales. One more thing even with the success of DDL in the music industry I stll see CD's at Best Buy. LMAO

Ok fair enough until I see a comparison using a true upscaler I will not comment.... oh wait I did just see it in the vid and oh no they agree with me.

So I need to buy the best upscaler to prove that it is only slightly inferior to BR? Well you made my point already and now we are just going back and forth about the degree to wich BR owns upscalers. Wow

Try again!

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sretlaw - 395 days ago

@Skadoosh

"The 360 has 720p downloads and its highly agreed that 720p and 1080p shows no difference unless you own a 60 inch tv."

Highly agreed by who? You don't need to go as high as 60 inches to lose quality with 720p. Quality is lost with a 720p image on any TV above 32 inches, so that means that the 40 inch to 52 inch range you're saying will show 720p well...will in fact look like crap compared to BR. That's why you don't see 32 inch tv's or below running 1080p, except a few Sharp models like the LC32GP1U (or newer models) which is just an expensive 32 inch gaming TV that doesn't truly need the 1080p since 720p would look exactly the same.

Whether the DDL image is better than an upconverted dvd is relative, but with the compression and whatnot I wouldn't be surprised if DDL was generally worse, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if upped DVD looked worse either.

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Kyur4ThePain - 395 days ago

You're not quite correct.

I own a PS3. Guess what format I use for movie watching?
Guess again...I use Blu-Ray, DVDs AND DLC.

I buy the Blu-Ray version for the "keeper" movies, and this list grows by the week.
For movies that I want to watch, and have a hard copy of, but don't consider keepers, I'll get the DVD version.
Then there are the occasions where I'm sitting in front of the TV late at night and feel like watching a stupid comedy or something to pass the time...that's when I'll do a rental from the PS Store.

So, I believe there is a place for each format, with Blu-Ray slowly eating into DVD as more people switch over. But there will always be a market for DLC, and I don't see it competing with Blu-Ray directly. Not until I can download a version that gives me exactly the same image and sound quality as Blu-Ray.

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sloth4urluv - 395 days ago

Of course the blu-ray looks better, there just isnt the bandwith at the moment.

Its only a matter of time though before connections fast enough kill disc storage. Its just going to happen, no point denying it.

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UnwanteDreamz - 395 days ago

I agree with just about everything in your post. Bubbles to U

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waseem335 - 395 days 1 hour ago

bots are in denial :( das a shame!! where livin in the future and they crying ova the past

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Jason 360 - 394 days 23 hours ago

If it's over, why do your comments smell of fear? As soon as one of these pop up you droids are here to defend, all of you. Sounds like fear over the "fact" that Blu-ray hasn't done so good, and during the shoping season to.

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ultimolu - 394 days 23 hours ago

Jason, because you *bots* keep saying bluray ish deeeeeed! Sony sucks! Down with Sonnnnnny!

HD-DVD is dead.

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Jason 360 - 394 days 23 hours ago

HD DVD was dead a long time ago, I didnt support that format so saying "HD DVD is dead" does nothing to me. It's like shooting a BB at a tank. You should try some Netflix in HD or upscales DVD, or download from the marketplace. Oh... my bad, silly me you don't have em. All three are stomping the hell out of Blu-ray.

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 394 days 23 hours ago

Suzi Perry!!! ;-P

+ They did a 'Top 5' of must have games for xMas and look what was 1st!!!...

http://fwd.five.tv/videos/t...

;-P
Can't see any xBox 360 Exclusives in the List??? ;-D

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ultimolu - 394 days 23 hours ago

Oh, but I have no interest in that when I can watch the same movies on the internet! :)

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karlostomy - 394 days 17 hours ago

Stop defending.

I am thinking if you spent even 1/10th of the time you waste defending sony on playing 360 games, you'd be a much happier person.

That reminds me, did you buy a 360 like you said you were going to?

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ultimolu - 394 days 12 hours ago

1. Grow up.
2. It's a Christmas gift. Why do you care whether I bougght one yet or not?
3. Stop stalking my comments.
5. Call 1800-GET-A-LIFE.

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karlostomy - 394 days 6 hours ago

1. I have an excellent life.
2. You don't.
3. Hurry up and get a boyfriend so you not so b1tchy all the time
4. Hurry up and get a 360 so you don't waste time on futile SDF activity
5. Call 1800-Juuken-can't-count

XD

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ultimolu - 394 days 3 hours ago

1. I have an excellent life. (Sure you do.)
2. You don't. (Screw you. :D You know nothing about me.)
3. Hurry up and get a boyfriend so you not so b1tchy all the time (How do you know I don't have one now? Is it any of your business whether I have one or not?)
4. Hurry up and get a 360 so you don't waste time on futile SDF activity (Hurry up and get a PS3 because you don't want to miss out on kick ass exclusives. Maybe it'll open your eyes a little and you can stop lying to yourself.)
5. Call 1800-Juuken-can't-count (1-800-HITLER-FANBOY)
It was a typo idiot. :]

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karlostomy - 393 days 19 hours ago

You are THE most defensive nutjob I have seen on N4G, Juuken.

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tplarkin7 - 395 days 1 hour ago

I stream HD Netflix movies & tv and/or buy HD movies & tv on Xbox Live. No disk required.

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waseem335 - 395 days 1 hour ago

psychical disk i can take 2 my mates, lend some off him and get hours and hours of extra features :)

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Microsoft Xbox 360 - 395 days 1 hour ago

Sorry my brainwashed xbot, HD on Netflix is worse than upscaled DVD.

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joevfx - 395 days ago

have you streamed netflix hd stuff yet ? its freakign horrible quality it looks like a web video blown up to 1920x1080. no were near the quality of upscaling dvds let alone a blu ray movie.

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darthv72 - 395 days 1 hour ago

I have both the ps3 and 360. I have only 1 bluray movie (spiderman 3) and I have the 360 hddvd drive and a few more movies (5 freebies). I just got a new 42" samsung. While spiderman 3 looked really impressive on bluray, I was equally impressed with transformers on hddvd. I bought the regular dvd version before I got the hddvd drive and transformers (as one of the free movies).

Honestly I can't tell the difference in the visual quality at 720p between bluray and hddvd. I can tell a difference between the hddvd and dvd (of the same movie). I know I would need the bluray copy to really do a personal comparison, but what would be the point.

I like movies and "prefer" to get them on dvd for one simple reason. Flexibility. I can take the dvd on the go for the kids or watch it in any room of the house with a tv/dvd in it. Blu is nice (really nice) but at the moment it isnt as versatile as dvd (for me personally).

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joevfx - 395 days ago

with a 42" Tv you wouldnt be able to tell the difference. 50" and up my friend. thats known through the HDTV world.

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darthv72 - 394 days 23 hours ago

I almost bought the 50" samsung (pn50a450) for $899 but settled for the 42" version (pn42a450) for $649. $250 diff when both did the same specs wasnt worth it to me. Now I am looking to replace my 30" samsung crt hdtv with a 32" lcd. I wasnt sure which was better for games. I chose plasma for the deeper colors and contrast when watching movies.

I figured LCD would be better for games but please correct me if I am wrong. I am looking for one that can do at least 1360x768 which most LCD's do but plasma's...not so much. The 50" samsung could have done that but I chose otherwise.

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NeonSkull - 395 days ago

The people with jobs dont need to do that, but you have fun loser.

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Gaara_724 - 395 days ago

pp what internet speed do you have and what is youre band width?? coz honistly i cant see you downloading blue ray movies all the time the size's are to much to download all the time and youre band width would just dry up after 2/3 movies and without bandwidth that lovely xbox live servis you love so much would lag more than it allready does and you will be kicked from every game.

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digger18 - 395 days ago

Oh look, its wanker boy PP again!!!

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ppthedipshit - 394 days 21 hours ago

The only blueray movies pp downloads is gay porn staring himself , Jack Who and Sony Defence Farce gangbanging Big Bill and Cliffy B.

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BLuKhaos - 394 days 6 hours ago

you stupid flop head it's spelled w-a-s-t-e not w-a-i-s-t.God you bots are stupid.

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Kleptic - 394 days 13 hours ago

its common placebo, or reverse-placebo effects, on the buying consumer...

'its not better because I don't have it yet'...its human nature more or less...as people justify their purchase decisions by pre-conceived opinions, that normally do not reflect reality...

I bought a PS3 for the upcoming games at the time (Warhawk at that point)...trusted the brand and new it would get some great games through out the generation...but I wasn't having the HD gimmick...I didn't care about BD, or HD DVD...as I was perfectly fine with my 100'ish collection of DVD's that took me nearly 10 years to aquire (i know some have more, but I only bought movies I loved...not like some people buying just random crap)...I had an HDTV, but not a huge one...and DVD's still looked great on it...

or so I thought...I bought Casino Royale on BD first...as the movie was pretty good, and it was one of the few BD's at the time to have a really good transfer...and it wasn't even comparable...the difference is literally as big as vhs to DVD on some televisions (the bigger obviously, the more pronounced the difference)...

I haven't completely fallen into it yet...as the price for BD compared to DVD simply isn't acceptable yet...I still will take a $10 DVD over a $30 BD, unless its a absolutely must have movie for me (the dark knight for example)...

but a lot of you need to understand that this is the first real holiday season where BD is the ONLY format to own HD content on...BD WILL make a killing this season, its already confirmed...the price is in line...and nearly every new release is also on BD...its happening, just as DVD did...in japan BD is already at 50% of optical disc sales for movies, Europe isn't far behind...the US is the only area draggin its feet so far, and the dark knight can almost single handedly change that...

and don't give me that XBL/Netflix HD streaming BS...its crap compared to BD, and if you don't know that...its because you haven't watched a real BD yet...most of those XBL HD movie rentals are not even studio transfers, its some outside party scaling it and re-recording it, without having the original source...netflix confirms that in the fine print on their website (something along the lines of 'the HD transfer of some content was not handled by the publisher and/or studio, and therefor is not responsible for content quality')...thats how they do a lot of HD content on the PSN as well...

not to mention the sound...streaming crap isn't even 5.1 usually, let alone uncompressed HD sound...not a big deal now, but as better recievers become cheaper, it will be a major issue...

just let it go...BD is around to stay...despite your best efforts...Sony is taking over...again...the sooner you accept it, the happier you will be...you can argue with this MS DD pushing all you want, as that is no where near a viable alternative (as it doesn't have anywhere near the bandwidth support from residential ISPs, nor does it have enough support from the studios themselves)...its so stupid to see articles like this plagued with 360 idiot fanboys screaming about how BD is not needed, and DD is the immediate future...you were telling us for 3 years how you own a 'game console only'...so why do you even give a shat?...

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darthv72 - 394 days 23 hours ago

Visually, both were the same. It was in the audio department where blu was really superior (IMO). Oh well, there is a single HD format and a single SD format. Unless you want to lump DD into the SD category.

I know you have been saying you want to get a 360 one day. When you do, pick up the hddvd drive for cheap. Any movies you don't want to get on blu you could pick up on hddvd (if available) for cheaper and better than dvd.

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ultimolu - 394 days 22 hours ago

Not interested.

I only want the 360 for exclusive games.

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alexM - 394 days 13 hours ago

OMG

this guy is worse than MART

There is massive difference between Blu Ray and DVD

what a fanboy???

There is massive diff between the 2 formats

stupid BOT and his DVD dream

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darthv72 - 394 days 2 hours ago

I think you need to re-read the post by ultimolu then my comment may make more sense. I was referring to the visual diff between hddvd and blu. They were pretty much the same with an edge going to blu for a slightly higher bit rate. Audio wise the winner is blu because of the extra space on the disc for true hd. Anyone who has both (or all 3) formats has more choice in the movie they want to pick up.

I have lots of dvd's and only 1 BR movie. I do have 6 hddvd's because they were free (transformers being one of them). Movies I dont have yet (and are still available) I can pick up much cheaper than blu (or even dvd) on hddvd. If I wanted to. More newer movies I really want hd versions of I will get on blu (obviously) and if I just want to pick it up for the kids then it will be regular dvd.

You jumped to the wrong conclusion without reading the original post. It is obvious that blu is better than dvd. No one is disclaiming otherwise.

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Rhythmattic - 394 days 14 hours ago

Well I'd Say you have an Eye Patch on both eye's if you think DD is Better than Blu.

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shadowghost752 - 394 days 5 hours ago

i watched it too and thought i might aswell submit it

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