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So, How Much Space Do Your 360 Games Installs Take Up?

Kotaku: The New Xbox Experience lets you install 360 games onto your HDD. Great news for anyone - like myself - who gets DISC READ ERRORS as often as the sun both rises and sets. But chances are, unless you splurged and bought yourself an Elite, or are new to the 360 world and own a 60GB unit, you have a 20GB HDD. And for you, space is at a premium. So you need to know how much room the installs actually take up, so you can get prioritising.

Know before you start, however, that if you own a 20GB unit, Blue Dragon - at 19.9 GB - isn't going to fit. Nor is Lost Odyssey, at a whopping 23.2 GB. And if you own Crackdown or DoA Beach Volleyball 2, you won't be able to install them at all. The feature is "not supported" for those titles. Same goes for the Burger King titles Big Bumpin', Sneak King, and Pocketbike Racer, as well as the version of Quake II that came with Quake IV.

Everything else, though? You can install it. And here's how much they take up, courtesy of Sean & the kids @ NeoGAF:

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sinncross - 401 days 4 hours ago

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poor 20gb users. better upgrade them HDD's I reckon.

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anh_duong - 401 days 3 hours ago

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i installed 15 xbox games on my 120gb. shame there are no hacks to have a larger hd. i am big proponent of hd install.

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1.2 Man_of_the_year | 401 days 3 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

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darthv72 - 401 days 1 hour ago

1.3 - just upgraded

I scored a new retail 120gb drive for $90 from Target. It took an hour to migrate all my stuff from the 20gb to it. I have to try out lost odyssey (picked that up for $15 from target as well).

I am really diggin this NXE. Was watching 6 episodes of 30 rock the other night. Can't believe I am missing out on such a funny show...not anymore thanks to instant viewing.

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darkride66 - 401 days 1 hour ago

1.4 - Kinda useless, I'm afraid.

I've got a 20 GB launch console. With one Xbox original game installed, map packs for COD2, Oblivion's expansion pack I only have room for one games install on my unit - and right now that's Fable 2 at 6.8GB. I'm now left with about 500 mb, not even enough room to rent a movie on XBL without ditching something. And so far, I'm not positive but I don't think my Fable load times are any better.
Should I upgrade my harddrive? Hell no. Between the cost of my console, XBL, battery packs, wi-fi adapter and extra controllers I'm over $900 into this console and I'm on my 4th unit with a warranty that has now expired. No freakn way I'm putting any more money into this system. If it dies on me now I'm trading in my games, controllers and wi-fi adapter and moving on with my life. The PS3 has enough games now rated 75% and up on metacritic to keep any gamer occupied for 3 years or more. xbl gamertag: DarkrideHex66

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Action Bastard - 401 days 4 hours ago

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As a 20GB owner, the slight benefit isn't worth it to me. Hell, you only have 13GB available. I'm just can't see myself paying $100 for 60GB or $150 for 120GB.

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shadowghost752 - 401 days 4 hours ago

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Why not get another 20gb hdd for cheap and switch between them so in effect you have 40GB

1 for music and movies
1 for installed games

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Wildarmsjecht - 401 days 4 hours ago

2.2 - @Shadowghost

The problem with that Shadowghost is that he would need more than just 1 extra drive. Like the article states, titles like Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey (and I presume any other RPG) will be more than the drive can store. It's too limited in essence. Even if they were only 5-10 gigs, at most he could put 2 on each. (However, I dont know for sure if the extra 20 gig needs to be formatted again to hold the necessary files for the 360 so that it is actually 13 gigs)

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2.3 360 man | 401 days 3 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

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morganfell - 401 days 3 hours ago

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Well Shadow that doesn't work because you have to recover your Gamertag each time you swap an HDD. You may be able to have your profile on a memory card and do it like that. Not sure about that.

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shadowghost752 - 400 days 23 hours ago

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why all the disagrees, i don't have a 360, i was just trying to find a practical solution for someone that is all

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Action Bastard - 400 days 23 hours ago

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I appreciate the suggestion Shadow, but the limitations of the install feature coupled with the available space I have (even on 2 drives) isn't worth it.

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Gunner_Ali - 401 days 3 hours ago

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Thats why premiums are 60gb now
p.s just bought PS3 add me gunner_ali

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OOG - 401 days 3 hours ago

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meh all I have is the 20 gig as well......but..... I put the game I will play the most on the hard drive....and still have room for other stuff......Personally I dont need a bunch of games on my drive.

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chrisnick - 401 days 3 hours ago

5 - wait a goshdarn minute.........

where are all the ppl hating the ps3......for having installs?.....well anyway....i see no point in this....if u have a 20 gb xbox....ur talking 2, maybe 3 games tops....so u'll have to go out and buy you a 120 gb eventually.......at which point u probably already matched the ps3's price point.....hm.....so much for a cheaper console.

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Pennywise - 401 days 3 hours ago

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They are too busy praising the new nxe and L4D.

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Jenzo - 401 days 3 hours ago

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The difference is that PS3 installs are mandatory and don't do anything for the loading or gameplay.

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Why o why - 401 days 3 hours ago

5.4 - every ps3 can play every single ps3 game

not every 360 can play every single 360 game. Ill point to burnout p online. Yes mandatory installs can be annoying but at least every single ps3 has a hdd. If your trying to tell me that waiting for installs is an issue like you used to b4 the nxe then you are quite the hypocrite especially since you too will have to wait and i suppose because its your 'choice' it somehow makes it better on the 360. When we were saying that you just have to manage the space we were ridiculed but now you're all space management masters perfectly managing blocks of space like tetris.

Installs ARE and always HAVE been a good thing for gaming performance when done right. We cannot have consoles closer to pc's yet not inherit some of their advantages and disadvantages as thats illogical. Even the stupid installs like dmc4 increased performance even though the install time probably outweighed the time saved through in game loading but capcom were still coming to grips with the ps3 then.

"Unlike those people that bought a PS3(20GB, 40GB)... who were completely ignorant about the fact that games were going to have mandatory installs."

dude 20g owners (a minute amount of the ps3's out there) still have space. What about the ignorant 360 core guys by your own logic. You say some stupid things man cause i would more call them misinformed plus please list ALL of the millions of "Mandatory" installs please since ur such an expert.....

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No FanS Land - 401 days 3 hours ago

5.5 - @Jenzo

I'd shut up if I were you, cause you see, what will be next Xbox's drive? If it's blu-Ray then you're F*cked.

HD-DVD? Okay but not enough storage space.

DL: hell no.

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chrisnick - 401 days 2 hours ago

5.6 - jenzo and bladestar

their not all mandatory.....so u fail on that one.....and more importantly, i played gta4 on the 360 first then on ps3 with the install....and there is most definitely a difference.....but even so....the point is i get an install that enhances the performance of my game and not totally craps on the space that i have, on a console that makes me pay over 100 for 120gb of space(bladestar, 80 bucks gets me 320gb internally so shut up).....i modded my first xbox so i could put entire games on there.....4-5gb each....this is stupid...they know genius ppl will go out and buy the hdd....ur just naive and stubborn.....deadly combination...so no matter how u want to spin it, im spending less money than u for something that works more efficiently.

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Pennywise - 401 days 2 hours ago

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Mandatory or not... You guys are dissing Ps3 for its 1GB-4GB installs on our STOCK HDD.... And all users will want to install their games on the xbox to save the faulty DVD drive and lower the heat index and make your jumbo jet run quieter and they will be using more HDD Space than PS3 users... so dont act like PS3 has something bad going on.

Sony gave the PS3 harddrives because of installs - is it so bad that it is used for that?? Snap out of it.

We have heard enough of your spin garbage.

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Ju - 401 days 2 hours ago

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Not to forget 13/19/++GB on multi disk titles. Go figure.

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Jenzo - 401 days 1 hour ago

5.10 - @chrisnick

"their not all mandatory.....so u fail on that one"

Ok, then show me proof where you play Bioshock without the 5 gig install.

Or MGS4.

Or how you play Devil May Cry 4 without installing it first.

I can provide sources that back up my statements.

http://kotaku.com/5047682/p...

http://www.gamegrep.com/new...

http://kotaku.com/353612/de...

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Pennywise - 401 days 1 hour ago

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Jenzo, Sony gives all users a HDD for installs. You are wrong on so many levels with your way of thinking. With a console with a HDD provided in every unit, I do not see the big deal with installs, especially with gaming these days. You named single player games. People play them, delete saves and trade them in.

You can keep trying, but you all lose. Your arguments are pointless.

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Why o why - 401 days 1 hour ago

5.12 - thenickel

nah mate. You need a hdd for online play. EA are big so they didnt need to bend to MS's self inflicted pressure of no game ever needing a hdd.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...

cheers Jenzo

He has listed 3 games that have mandatory installs. There may be what, 6 at most out of how many games???? Please dont make a mountain out of a molehill.

@IdleLee

"20-30 minute install" theres only 1 game that goes over 20 total minutes (mgs4) and dmc4 that takes about that so where are the ever increasing titles you speak of?

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IdleLeeSiuLung - 401 days 1 hour ago

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Sony didn't give you a drive just to install games, but also to store media, downloadable content, new Operating System and more.

I own a 40GB PS3 and I'm not happy that I might have to upgrade the drive in the near future. Unless I want to do a 20-30 minute install everytime I want to play certain games (which is becoming increasingly more of).

Both consoles have faults, but don't complain about optional features. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard....

Don't know why so many people disagree with an added optional feature? Would you prefer that MS gave you less features? The only ones I can see agreeing with that are fanboys! Happy gaming!!!

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Mr Bun - 400 days 23 hours ago

5.14 - Do we really want to compare HDDs?

For 109.99 US (and maybe even cheaper) I can buy a 320 gig HDD for my PS3...right now I already have a 160 gig HDD which is more than the 360 is capable....What size HDD do you get for 109.99 for the XBOX...60gig...That's right...60 gig and the most you can get is 120gig...how many games can you install on that (considering the 360 installs the entire disc which is 6-7 gigs worth per game)...the PS3 is only 1-2 gigs and has a potentially limitless HDD storage capacity

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IdleLeeSiuLung - 400 days 23 hours ago

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What are the phantom disagrees for? Are you dumb?

It is an optional feature! I can't scream that out loud enough, but apparently I'm screaming into a wall. What part of it is bad?

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Ju - 400 days 23 hours ago

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320G is 79.90 these days. For 109 you should be able to get a 500G drive.

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kewlkat007 - 401 days 3 hours ago

6 - Lets see

I had 99 Gigs Free before NXE.

Installed:

-Fallout 3
-Fable 2
-Gears of War 2
-Lost Odyssey 4th Disk
-Infinite Undiscovery (2 disks)
-Mass Effect
-Bioshock
-Madden NFL 2009

I have about 10 XBL DEMOS/GAMES

Left with 38.9 Gigs Free(Of course everything is OPTIONAL)

Is there a way to check the Xbox HDD and it's file System? then I could really be Exact.

Also how do you ERASE old themes you do not want?

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morganfell - 401 days 2 hours ago

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You have an error. The reason is your total game install size is 74.7GB. Do the math. 99 before NXE minus 74.7 in installs = 24.3GB

-Fallout 3 (5.9 GB)
-Fable 2 (6.8 GB)
-Gears of War 2 (6.7 GB)
-Lost Odyssey 4th Disk (23.2 GB for all discs: 5.8, 5.2, 6.3, and 6.2)
-Infinite Undiscovery (2 disks) (12.5 GB for both discs, disc 1 6GB disc 2 6.5GB)
-Mass Effect (6.8 GB)
-Bioshock (6.1 GB)
-Madden NFL 2009 (6.7 GB)

Did you look at your disk size AFTER NXE but BEFORE installs? Maybe NXE compressed some of the old data.

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JackBauerIsHIGH - 401 days 2 hours ago

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There is a way but I am not sure exactly what it is called. Pull up your menu by pressing the XBOX logo on the controller and scroll to the last section to the right. From there you should be able to find what you are looking for.

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LethalToxins - 401 days 2 hours ago

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To erase old themes go to the Memory section in the System blade of the 360 dashboard. You should see a theme category where you can erase the old ones you don't want.

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kewlkat007 - 401 days 1 hour ago

6.4 - morganfell well I'll have to check that's why I wish I had

a program to read the Xbox 360's HDD.

Can you FTP to the 360 through the IP?

But I know what I had before NXE+INSTALLS and now what I have after both.

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kewlkat007 - 400 days 20 hours ago

6.5 - LethalToxins thx buddy I'll try that out

I look almost every where on that NXE to do it...

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Eagle_of_Heaven - 401 days 3 hours ago

7 - i need a new HDD

i installed Gears of War 2, took a massive 6gb

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chrisnick - 401 days 2 hours ago

7.1 - and that my friends

proves my point in my previous post.

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jmiscavish - 401 days 2 hours ago

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lol, there are only about 10 games off that list that I can install. I only have 4 demos, but the real kicker is rock band DLC. I've got GBs of that on my HDD.

If I have to choose between deleting demos, deleting RB DLC, and having game installs, guess which one isn't going to happen? LOL, especially if I still have to walk back and forth to switch discs...

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ForROME - 401 days 2 hours ago

9 - MS

Take note, of the PS3 hard drive switch, going forward I really hope MS lets you buy your own HD off store shelve. You have no idea how good it feels to pay 79.99 for 320 gigs as opposed to $149 for 120 gig,

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PimpHandHappy - 401 days 2 hours ago

10 - yea @ForRome

those 360 harddrives have been sitting around not getting sold

MS has just put installs into the system

now tell me

199

and

end of warranty

sounds like MS is smarter then me

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AllroundGamer - 401 days 1 hour ago

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why they talk about 20gb of space?? there is only about 12gb of space u can really use, the 8gb is used for cache and encryption...

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tk - 401 days 1 hour ago

12 - Well..

If I would consider a XB360 - best would be at least 160GB. At least with PS3 i can buy a new 320GB and without any hassles install it. With XB360 you must make your purchase of HD option from the start - otherwise you are gonna pay through your nose.

Interesting that Kotaku now admits to read errors. But this should solve this issue - as well as the noisy drives issues. Good for XB360 owners to have this. Enjoy.

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PS360WiiRocks - 401 days 1 hour ago

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It's not that bad, I have Far Cry 2 and Mass Effect installed, play Gears 2 off the disk as it runs fine, and I still have room for a 2 demos. It's not amazing but I stream music through media center so I don't really use the space for all that much

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SacT0wnF1n3st - 401 days ago

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I installed 4 games so it's about 24 gig or so.

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anubis12 - 401 days ago

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seems to be more ps3 owners in this thread i wonder why?

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dcbronco - 400 days 13 hours ago

15.1 - Sony people in this thread?

They might be looking for a game that would actually require Blu-ray.

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SacT0wnF1n3st - 397 days 22 hours ago

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All the multiple disc games on the 360 will be benefit with Blu Ray.

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Alvadr - 400 days 23 hours ago

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Glad i bought an Elite, installed 5 games, including demos and other content downloaded I still have 65gigs free

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Mr PS3 - 401 days 3 hours ago

1 - They dont take up any Space

Because i've got a PS3 with a 250 HDD
You Stupid BoTs
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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rawd - 401 days 3 hours ago

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lol 20 gig hard drive

WAVE OF THE FUTURES

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eagle21 - 401 days 2 hours ago

3 - kotaku actually reported: "disc read errors on 360 often as sun rises and sets"

hell froze..lol

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Darrius Cole - 401 days 2 hours ago

4 - These installs are anywhere from 3 to 7 gigabytes......

There is no way the average 20GB 360 owner can afford to spend that much space on an install. Especially so when Halo 3 is NOT one of the games that benefits from an install.

I don't think this feature will be used very much by 20GB 360 owners. But the new 60GB and Elite owners my put it to use though.

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Magic_The_Celt - 401 days 2 hours ago

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Lol

it sounds like im bragging but I'v made sure i never have to worry about this crap, although il most likely only install Fable II, goddamn 360 sounding like a jet taking off piece of crap..

Anyhoo... think i have about 90GB left on my 360 elite

but thats nothing compared to my PS3 :D

Which has a MONSTER of a 320GB in it. w00p.

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ravinshield - 400 days 20 hours ago

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shut up

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ViceKingz - 400 days 18 hours ago

5.2 - ^^^^^^^

you can't handle the truth?

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