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Sony clarifies 14 million-user PSN milestone

Sony confirms its recently announced network numbers include accounts from both the PlayStation 3 and PSP, but no duplicates; analyst estimates 50% of PS3s have gone online.

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Fobuo - 402 days 19 hours ago

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1 - It doesn't really matter

So long as people are registered to use the sole service that is the PSN,then there's nothing to get worked up over

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imdaboss - 402 days 19 hours ago

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i agree who cares if its from psp and ps3 only xbox 360 fanboys are getting mad i have no idea why though

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PirateThom - 402 days 19 hours ago

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I wonder if Microsoft count Games for Windows Live subscriptions as well...

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Martini - 402 days 19 hours ago

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How typical from Sony.

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GWAVE - 402 days 19 hours ago

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Just like Microsoft counts Silver (i.e not able to use Live) members in their counts for Xbox LIVE members...

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PirateThom - 402 days 19 hours ago

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What?

To give actual number of users signed up with Unique accounts for PSN?

Yes, how typical.

PSN isn't a PS3 exclusive service.

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darkdoom3000 - 402 days 18 hours ago

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yeah thats why its Called "PLAYSTATION Network" instead of "Playstation 3 Network" Its not exclusive to one console. and alot of people who have PSP's have a PS3.

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cmrbe - 402 days 18 hours ago

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sony clarifies but what about MS?. PROD anyone?. failure rate?.

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Elven6 - 402 days 18 hours ago

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@ GWAVE: What on earth are you talking about?!?! Microsoft always states gold subscribers connected to Live, they rarely state Silver accounts, they make it clear they are referring to Gold subscribers when sending out numbers.

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Lumbo - 402 days 17 hours ago

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Please provide a SINGLE quote from Microsoft where they provide numbers for "gold" accounts. You won't find any cause they never mention the gold/silver type. There are no numbers from Microsoft regarding the actual amount of silver vs gold users cause Microsoft only ever releases "Xbox Live subscriptions" which naturally includes gold subscriptions, silver subscriptions AND Live4Windows PC subscriptions.

And thats neither false, nor "evil" nor anything else. It is just that the PR department will always use the biggest number. And considering that the number DOES represent the whole XboxLive subscribers it is not false to use it.

Neither is it false or "evil" or whatever if Sony publishes their network numbers as "active PSN users". They never said "active PS3 PSN users", why should they. The vast majority of these accounts will be PS3 accounts. As PSP was only able to access the PSN and Store for about a month. And no one can convince me that there are 7 million users that registered for PSN via their PSP LAST MONTH. The only device that asked for a PSN signup from the start was the PS3.

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ambientFLIER - 402 days 17 hours ago

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Gwave: You can use Live just fine if you're a silver user. Certain games even let you play in matchmaking without a gold membership, Halo 3 being one of them.

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Elven6 - 402 days 16 hours ago

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@ Lumbo: http://kotaku.com/341399/xb...

As you can see they clealry out line "Paying" members and later go on to mention Silver members aren't included.

I found more on Yahoo and Major Nelsons site but their sites are currently down.

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2.9 Mitch_Cumstein | 402 days 16 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

pwnsause - 402 days 8 hours ago

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"And to the idiot that said Silver memberships can't use Live, you are completely wrong. I had a silver account last month and I could use Live no problem."

But there is one problem though. You have to give up $50 of your salary per Year if you want to play online games on XBL. So Silver memberships technically cant use live.

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Elven6 - 402 days 3 hours ago

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If your going to disagree at least comment on my post instead of just being a stupid fanboy who knows he is wrong.

And for a while, Silver accounts were able to play some games for free. $50 isn't that much, if it bothers you then you can buy a code digitally online for cheaper.

http://www.microsoftpointsx...

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sephy 9 2 5 - 402 days 19 hours ago

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3 - 8.5 million are connected

via the PS3

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poeo - 402 days 18 hours ago

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good enough for me :) i have time to play with about a couple of thousand people, in my lifetime. tops.

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Darkiewonder - 402 days 18 hours ago

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I have mine, my brother, 2 UK, 1 JP, 1 AU, 1 HK, and I did have a FR one but deleted that.

so 7 for me. [and yes, they all have PSN ID]

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Premonition - 402 days 18 hours ago

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Its still tied to one IP address, which sony only counts, it doesnt matter if you have 2 accounts in each country if its one PS3 its one PS3 main account ID that is connected to 1 IP address.

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dude_uk - 402 days 17 hours ago

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not the IP address, but instead the first account registered on the PS3, which registers the MAC address of each unique PS3. That makes more sense than IP address as you can easily change it everytime you turn your router on.

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OOG - 402 days 16 hours ago

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yo read the article they said just like xbox live they count all the accounts made on one system that are connected to psn....not so 8 accounts connected on 1 system is 8 accounts not matter how you shake it.

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Premonition - 402 days 15 hours ago

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Im talking about the ISP ip not your computers.

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Premonition - 402 days 15 hours ago

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@scottmichael, like ive stated before in another news top regardless if you have a japanese account, london account or whatever account, if your in the US, and of course you have a US ISP they will know you only have 1 account and its based in the US, think before you call someone an idiot.

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Adamalicious - 402 days 12 hours ago

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"You idiot, its not counted by IP "

That doesn't sound very GZ appropriate to me.

Top Tip: Want to stop losing bubbles? Don't be a douche.

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pwnsause - 402 days 8 hours ago

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4.8 - scottmichael

Sony knows who you are and were you live based on your IP address. they can tell what service you are using, what region you live in, and what county you live in based on your IP address. Your IP address is basically like Home Address, but for the Internet.

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Mu5afir - 402 days 18 hours ago

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5 - It's all about HOME.

HOME will force people to go online.. it will make people want to experience the online futures of the PSN. I think this will be the "Trojan Horse" if you well.. for the PSN. This is something that the competition doesn't have, and Sony can take a huge advantage of.

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sretlaw - 402 days 18 hours ago

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Right...I am a Sony fan but come on...Home is great, free, anticipated, but it will not turn any tides.

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Socomer 1979 - 402 days 18 hours ago

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all I know is that its feels like a million people at Home.
I'm playing a game of pool now with my brother & everybody is asking us if they could get next.
I feel like I'm on the street in a pool hall. Proximity chat is fantastic. I know you're jealous. I would be as a gamer.

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Rob0g0rilla - 402 days 18 hours ago

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"The rep also said, to guard against duplication, Sony does not count a registration made on the PS3 and then used on the PSP (or vice versa) as two accounts. Like with Xbox Live, the figure also includes multiple accounts used on the same console or in the same household."

PSN is free and everyone is the same out the box. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was coming close to 10 million. It's a great and smart way to build up a user base for a brand new and young service.
Signing up to use the PSN is smoother and a lot easier then ever with the new redesign.
I wish Sony's PSN and Microsoft's XBL the best because it creates good competition which is good for us.

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BLaZiN PRopHeT - 402 days 18 hours ago

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You should read that article more the number counts multi accounts on ps3.

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BLaZiN PRopHeT - 402 days 18 hours ago

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i find it funny how fanboys change when they are proven wrong. just go look at the thread when sony first said 14 million. and now look at some of the reactions. complete 180

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Your limited to the number of online accounts you can make on your 360. i believe the most is 3 per system.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 402 days 18 hours ago

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haha actually I'm laughing my arse off. Yes, I invite people to go look at the 14mil PSN article and after reading this it's like a diary of fail.

It happens all the time and is great entertainment. My bro has 3 unique PSN id's on his one console and $ony count them all as unique accounts. The real number is no where near 14mil.

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elorm9 - 402 days 18 hours ago

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Anyone with or without a 360 can make a XBL account, even multiple ones.

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Jenzo - 402 days 10 hours ago

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Yeah but your achievements would go to waste if you had more than 1 active Live account so what's the point?

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PimpHandHappy - 402 days 17 hours ago

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9 - Crab

you know something

your funny

did that number make your butt hurt?!?!?

dont worry Crab

When its all said and done PSN will have well over 14million signed on!

6 years from now

PS3 80million signed on for PSN might be close

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Jenzo - 402 days 10 hours ago

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6 years from now. That's one big just-you-wait you dropped there.

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Nikkelz - 402 days 17 hours ago

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10 - only gold members count i think for xbl,which is still pretty impressive

considering that NEARLY 60 or so percent of the households on the east coast of the u.s is connected to the internet thru broadband,but on the flip side of it,when you log into psn and start folding,if you click on the channels you could see a vew of the earth and all the ps3's that are connected and folding and in telling you on the east coast of the u.s the earth lights up like a christmas tree,now THATS impressive

folding a home for the win,

peace and game on

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Lumbo - 402 days 17 hours ago

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Nope, Live numbers always included Gold + silver + Live4Windows members. There are no more detailed numbers from Microsoft, neither from Sony.

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OOG - 402 days 16 hours ago

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nah yeah I think they might count them all.....but I do remember during some big events like E3 usually they would also have the Gold # in the announcements

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Lumbo - 402 days 16 hours ago

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Was there even any need to clarify?

The stated number was 14 million active PSN accounts. Has that number changed after the "clarification" ? No. It is still 14 million active PSN users. The only thing added was that yes, PSP PSN accounts are PSN accounts, too.

Considering that the PSP only got the PSN shop access last month and that you do not need ANY PSN account to use the internet on the PSP and that hardly any games for the PSP have an online mode i fail to see why the inclusion of PSP accounts is suddenly such a big issue. I don't believe that a huge number of PSP accounts exist today, the system lacks the online gaming features of the PS3 for most parts. Even 1% of the 14 million being pure PSP accounts would be a huge number imho.

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gamesonsmash - 402 days 16 hours ago

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I wonder if Microsoft count Games for Windows Live subscriptions as well...yea all ten of them lol

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Apocalypse Shadow - 402 days 16 hours ago

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13 - good thing sony doesn't add

ps2 into the PSN network.the landslide would destroy the town below with the amount of gamers on sony's network as a whole.

ps2/psp/ps3 together would bring the house down.

as for microsoft,they never say how many are silver or gold....EVER.and they never say how many members are still playing live using xbox 1.and never say how many were added from the PC side.

so sony should just add all online playstation members and tell us the number.then,we will hear microsoft change their toon to how many REALLY PAY FOR XBL ON 360 ONLY.

and they'll then say"look at how many next gen online members we have."

apocalypse................

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Kyur4ThePain - 402 days 16 hours ago

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14 - Jesus

This debate is even more pointless than the stupid sales figures ones.
Don't you people have games to go and play?

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Traveler - 402 days 12 hours ago

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That was so dishonest of Sony and everybody knows it. They claimed that they had reached 14 million users with the hope that people would assume that meant actual PS3 users who are actively gaming online. And that is exactly what happened. In the other thread, Ps3 fanboys were claiming left and right that it meant that the PS3 had as many users actively gaming online as the 360. But it turns out that the number is actually closer to 8.5 million, and that includes all the multiple accounts that most of us have (I have three). Then Sony realized they couldn't get away with that claim and had to modify it. But they are still not being totally honest and upfront.

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Lex Luthor - 402 days 8 hours ago

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I knew there wasn't that many people on PSN for ps3.

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i have 3 ps3,s in the house but my sign in id can only be on one as the master account,the rest i,m as a sub account the great thing about it is any think you down load from the store can be used on all 3 systems as long as your psn id is on the user list.talk about cheap gaming

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This thread is about the PSN.. so why are there xbox trolls on here making comparisons?

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fufotrufo - 402 days 18 hours ago

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SDF is out doing ths spinning job!

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TrooGamer - 402 days 18 hours ago

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At least they clarified it...PSN is a network used by multiple devices so its a good start.

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Steven Colbert - 402 days 18 hours ago

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How did so many get online fast? Just back June I could have sworn the PSN numbers were at 5 million

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silverchode - 402 days 17 hours ago

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i remember they were around 9 million couple months back

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ravinshield - 402 days 1 hour ago

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well that sh!t is free and thats all they got.

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Patchstation 3 - 402 days 16 hours ago

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Lol....Spin Droid Spin.

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sak500 - 402 days 12 hours ago

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LOL typical FONY b$#hit. They throw around the numbers. Their b$hit defense force laps it up. When the industry people call them out for proof they come up with excuses.

No wonder every droid acts like this since this is some kind of training they get from FONY.

The oath they would be taking.
1 You must lie to your teeth in order to show the greatness of PS3
2 If for any reason you get called for, use our spinning 101 excuses book and save your precious sony leadership.
3 you must hype every exclusive on ps3 to no end even though it will make you puke when playing it like a paris hilton game.
4 Every score below 60 for a ps3 exclusive is actually A+ and every 89 score of Xbox360 is a flop
5 Game sales do not matter for ps3 games, even 100k sales in a year is great. We dont play game but we hype them
6 2million seller game on 360 is flop because we say so

blah blah blah...

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That was so dishonest of Sony. They claimed that they had reached 14 million users with the hope that people would assume that meant actual PS3 users who are actively gaming online. Then they realized they couldn't get away with that claim and had to modify it somewhat. But they are still not being totally honest and upfront.

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Everyone of you troll's above just proved how f*cking stupid you are.

PLAYSTATION NETWORK.Isn't PS3 exlusive.They never said it was.
All they did was clarify the confusion of morons like you.

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