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IGN: Face Off: Wii Miis vs. 360 Avatars

On Wednesday, Microsoft launched the New Xbox Experience, a complete graphical user interface overhaul for Xbox 360 that jettisons the console's tried-and-true Blade presentation for a sleek new configuration intended to be much more intuitive. Included in the NXE are the well-publicized Avatars, cartoony, virtual representations of gamers' real-world personalities. In other words, Miis, now with the coveted Bill Gates stamp of approval.

Although Microsoft revealed at the Electronic Entertainment Expo 2008 that second-party studio Rare had been working on 360's Avatar component for some time, it seems clear, based on the final product, that Nintendo's own user interface provided at least some influence. The big question is, now that IGN has had a chance to tool around with both options, which one is ultimately better? The answer is not quite so black and white.

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big shadow - 403 days 21 hours ago

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I would say avatars because their more human like and you can customize them better

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morganfell - 403 days 20 hours ago

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I would say Home since you can really customize and look even more human.

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GUNS N SWORDS - 403 days 19 hours ago

1.2 - ..............(morganfell)

this isn't about Home. home and NXE aren't the same, and i don't know why you seem to over credit and advertise sony in a Wii/360 section.........is it necessary?

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pumpkinpunker - 403 days 18 hours ago

1.3 - avatars all the way

you can't really do anything with Miis and they look stupid like eerie wooden 1950's childrens toys. And that guy is delusional if he thinks his Mii looks more like him than his Avatar. I lol'd at that part. The things fanboys will convince themselves. Does he have two balls for hands and wear a solid green shirt with a solid crap brown pair of pants with no feet? Is his face flat with drawn on one-dimensional features?

If so then maybe he should stop playing his Wii and join the circus and become the amazing stick figure man. Or maybe it's an instance of Wii fanboys resembling their Miis like people resemble their pets after awhile. Who knows what goes on in the crazy world of Nintendo fandom. These are the people who play Wii Music, afterall.

@Guns n Swords

Just ignore Morganell. Everyone else does. The guy was probably born with a PS3 up his butt.

Hey, Morganfell, Home isn't even out yet so get back in your corner until it is released, mm'kay? See you in 2011.

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7ero H3LL - 403 days 18 hours ago

1.4 - avatars wins hands down,

had the wii equivalent, it was ok, but 360's version is wayyyyyy better.

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ThanatosDMC - 403 days 18 hours ago

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Wii wins since you can beat the snot out of the other person's mii! I hope M$ somehow copies this, which they probably will. Then Home will copy it but will have blood, cuts, and blackeyes, and your own coach and cutman.

Btw, Morganfell just copied what some people do about bringing Home up in the netflix articles being superior to PSN store.

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1.6 Fux4Bux | 403 days 18 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

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jaysquared - 403 days 18 hours ago

1.7 - @morgan

Yeah let me know when Home is released and i'll give it a try.. If it will ever be released and playable!

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Product - 403 days 18 hours ago

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i think they both win in different areas.
I like how simplistic the miis are and how they are integrated into some games
but i like the avatars for the great community they have which i wish Nintendo had some form of.

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vhero - 403 days ago

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another article proving yet again MS cannot come up with anything unique at least they took something with great potential like Mii and did something good unlike Nintendo who let em rot..

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Fobuo - 403 days 21 hours ago

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I'd say Miis,since they aren't ripoffs....

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GUNS N SWORDS - 403 days 20 hours ago

2.1 - and what isn't?

trophies?

lol, j/k

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KnaveX - 403 days 19 hours ago

2.2 - ,,,,,,(Gunsandswords)

this isnt about trophies and achievements, since trophies and avatars arent the same.

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NMC2007 - 403 days 19 hours ago

2.3 - So ...

are you saying that Nintendo came up with virtual characters? Even thought they are all over the internet, in DOA 4 and numerous other games? All Nintendo did was make a gimmick to put into their console feature set, yes, since Miis aren't really supported like avatars or home characters will be, I call it a gimmick and a cop out for character design.

Do you ever wonder what kind of characters Nintendo would have created for Wii Sports or anything that is Mii focused, if Miis didn't exist? I sure do.

Nintendo ripped off Miis too, everyone "rips off" everyone, it's a fact.

I mean for all we know the avatars could have came from the many virtual character ideas around the internet and game industry, so don't be so damn naive.

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SaberEdge - 403 days 18 hours ago

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Except you're wrong, the Miis are a borrowed idea. You honestly didn't think that Nintendo invented them, did you? Anyway, the avatars on the 360 are worlds better anyway.

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GUNS N SWORDS - 403 days 20 hours ago

3 - i say avatars

Ive been with it for 2 days now, there's a lot more innovation going on than wii, the way that they play there part in NXE adds a lot more to the interface, it's quite fun :)

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RememberThe357 - 403 days 20 hours ago

3.1 - They seems a little...

gay. I know thats all politically incorrect, but the Avatars just seems a little too metro for me. Obviously this is just my opinion, and I'm sure MS is happy that your happy.

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SaberEdge - 403 days 18 hours ago

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I thought I wasn't going to like the avatars, but they are actually pretty cool. They add a touch of personality to the console and I really like going to my friends channel and actually seeing their digital representations standing there. I have really ended up liking it a lot.

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schmeidenkamp - 403 days 20 hours ago

4 - hmm....

i see that msoft was trying reach a different demographic with this move, but can someone from the xboxers tell me that thay were honestly excited for these? are the guys that play halo and gears like: 'YEA DUDE, AVATARS!'

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Sarcasm - 403 days 20 hours ago

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Bangeldesh will answer "Yes"

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L Ronald Hubbard - 403 days 20 hours ago

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Of course people would choose avatars instead of miis because its new and theres more customization going on.

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Covenant - 403 days 20 hours ago

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I'm indifferent about the avatars.

I created mine, saved it, and went on to enjoy the rest of the NXE, which overall ROCKS.

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Fobuo - 403 days 20 hours ago

7 - "and what isn't? trophies? lol, j/k "

Only a fool would claim Trophies aren't a result of Achievements.

And only a fool would claim Avatars aren't a result of Miis.

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schmeidenkamp - 403 days 20 hours ago

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u get de bubblies

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GUNS N SWORDS - 403 days 19 hours ago

7.2 - yeah well

every company copies each other, truth.

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I am Legend - 403 days 20 hours ago

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That's Microsoft taking it further...

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imdaboss - 403 days 19 hours ago

9 - hmm

microsoft avatars look exactly like Yahoo messenger avatars

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So Easy I Can Do It - 403 days 19 hours ago

10 - this is like

special olympians competing

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wwedx - 403 days 19 hours ago

11 - LOL

avatars by far

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GearsOfWar - 403 days 19 hours ago

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So, they chose Miis? WTF?

They also said that Miis are more accurate. Are you kidding me? Sure if you want nubs for limbs and cartoony faces. It's obvious avatars are more accurate.

If they want to debate accuracy, HOME characters are the most accurate.

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Product - 403 days 18 hours ago

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no read the conclusion,
they chose wii's for their simplicity and to the point appearance.
They ultimately chose the avatars for its community which Nintendo is seriously lacking.

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militant07 - 403 days 18 hours ago

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for me its like this

HOME > NXE "AVATARS > Wii "Mii"

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Jenzo - 403 days 16 hours ago

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So your top choice is something you haven't tried yet? Makes sense.

Btw, can you use your Home character in games, like you can do with Avatars and Miis?

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imdaboss - 403 days ago

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yep you can use Home characters in games something called Pool and bowling and some arcade mini games but i dont care what u say its still in a game

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anubis12 - 403 days 18 hours ago

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on the wii you can where regular shirt like 5 colors...with the 360 avatars i am wearing a white suit with converses, with aviators on , with a beard

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Product - 403 days 18 hours ago

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Bladestar did you not read the article too??
Matt said that you can make the appearance of your face more accurate then the avatars due to you being able to move and position eyes,nose,mouth etc,where they need to be.
The avatars do not give this option.
being able to recreate your face more accurately is more important to me then what you wear or having what blade thinks "fingers and hands".
The face is the most recognizable part of the body......not hands or "fingers".
Besides i like how you think you can "wear fingers or even hands" lol.

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SaberEdge - 403 days 18 hours ago

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But the face you are left with still doesn't look anything like you with the Mii system. I didn't think that guy's Mii looked anything like him, did you? I mean, I would never see that Mii and go "hey look, it's dave" (or whatever the guy's name is). That's silly.

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Product - 403 days 18 hours ago

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"But the face you are left with still doesn't look anything like you with the Mii system"
Question:
If you can move features of the face around(mii's do this),would that be more accurate then making a face without that feature(Avatars dont have this)?
Its a caricature.....nothing more you people are judging this like these are supposed to be realistic portraits.

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Socomer 1979 - 403 days 18 hours ago

15 - okay that's it !

its time to adress the children & send them to bed.

To: big shadow. If you really think avatars are human like then you've got some serious soul searching to do. Obviously you're more fruitied up than you know.

To: guns n swords. You've been with avatars for 2 days & already you are saying its more innovative than miis? I have a wii & there is chuck norris, michael Jackson , darth maul & countless of other innovative creations. You can't even create the perfect Jesus Christ with avatars. Nothing beats the miis in wii sports. NOTHING!

To: Spydiggity. Americans invented & japan has improoved upon it? America has spies as in C.I.A. & secret intelligence. As you can see in history its popular opinion vs. Fact. Fairy tales have been printed in American history books. I know, I'm a American. We steal, trademark & get filthy rich. Nintendo invented miis. End of Story.

I never seen a ghay retard boy until I've seen Avatars on 360. Miis are miis. Avatars just plain suck & you just pay month after month for it until it makes you buy some pants for it. YUCK!

Please don't disrespect the mii. It didn't make avatars, microsoft cloned it & horribly so. I want to see a babies arm stick out of its head because its another failed experiment.

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7ero H3LL - 403 days 18 hours ago

15.1 - ...and what's your point?

"Please don't disrespect the mii. It didn't make avatars, microsoft cloned it & horribly so. I want to see a babies arm stick out of its head because its another failed experiment."

the avatars was made by "RARE" Ex Nintendo supporters, and as for avatars, XBL has a bigger online community, and to top it off avatars will no doubt get future updates, adding more and more customizations to it's list.

Miis are nice but they don't have the edge that avatars has, in both graphics and in potential.

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SaberEdge - 403 days 18 hours ago

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It's not even close. The Miis look like crap in comparison to the avatars. They don't even have hands or feet for hell's sake. If the 360's avatars looked like Miis I really would have been annoyed with them. As they are though, I think they actually turned out to be quite cool. I have had fun customizing my avatar and seeing my friends' avatars. It makes the whole experience seem much more personalized.

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Xander-RKoS - 403 days 17 hours ago

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Mii's, because I actually have the option to use them in the Wii series games, Mario Kart, and Guitar Hero and not something lame like Uno....

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moocifer - 403 days 15 hours ago

18 - Mii-60s

Wii Miis are dreadful. This article is written by an IGN idiot. Mii-60s (Rare Avatars) are far superior already .. and we've yet to see all the likely tweaks & improvements MS will throw at us. \o/

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riksweeney - 403 days 13 hours ago

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Bottom line:

No Miis = No Avatars

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BrotherNick - 403 days 9 hours ago

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You guys are hilarious...the point of the miis are to be a caricature of who you are, not to look cool, which is obviously what MS is trying to do. You won't get the same laughs when you make a friend with a distinguished nose huge on their mii, or making a tall lanky guy. Miis are meant to be a parody of yourself, which is why it's fun.

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Timesplitter14 - 403 days 6 hours ago

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I hate the X360 avatars.

Miis look kiddy but they're supposed to look that way and there's nothing bad about it. In fact, they don't look kiddy. Just cartoony. They are supposed to represent a cartoon version of yourself.

X360 avatars, on the other hand, are complete ripoffs. They look REALLY kiddy this time. And it doesn't fit the X360 at all. They try to be too realistic and have those STUPID smiles on their faces. They make me think of this :

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darthv72 - 403 days 6 hours ago

22 - customization...?

Between the two I would have to throw the nod to nintendo for customization. I think the 360 avatars are much more natural looking with attached arms and legs but I can't see where I could make a darth vader or robocop character. At least the Mii's let you move and resize the various parts to manipulate them to make such characters.

I have seen some pretty cool Mii's and can only imagine the time involved to do so. I also like the Mii contests that go on. I made one that came in 8th in my region.

Maybe MS should do some avatar contests for live points...?

edit: I would also like to see the creation of more than one avitar for your gamer profile. Some days I just don't feel like myself and would like to pick which persona to be.

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Socomer 1979 - 403 days 18 hours ago

1 - Robots.

did you ever wonder why they are called xbots? Take a look at the copy & paste sentences used in the gamerzone decribing why they really really really like thier creepy baby retard avatars.

1 guy said its really cool to check my friends in digital form.
Another said, oh yeah they are more innovative because I can put some shades on his face (even though it will never be close to remble his ultra ghay face).
They even went as far as to say, but avatars have hands.

Its simple. The argument or competition of being innovative & acurate to represent yourself
is closest match by miis. But why? Because there are many games like wii sports already using the miis
& the teenage mutant ninja turtle mii. Avatars aren't creative. All you do is slap cut out clothes on it for a game show
video game where you don't move it. Out of all avatars, the 360 version is really for 2 year old girls that play on the www.bratzdolls.com website.

Ha ha ha, its so easy. Microsoft fed the xbots to the droids on this one!
Go IGN !
GO SONY !
Go Nintendo !

Those clowns are saying avatars were invented first & the miis improoved on it !
LOL they are owning themselves. Its like watching the happening all over again on bluray!

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 403 days 15 hours ago

1.1 - IGN: Face Off: Wii Miis vs. 360 Avatars vs. PS3 HOME...

'HOME' DESTROYS Both of them!!! ;)

That main Photo at the Top!!!
;-D ;-D ;-D
Thanks Micro$oft for making me Laugh Daily!!! ;-D

xBox LIVE -
'THUG 1' says to 'THUG 2' -

'YO! You wanna play Gears of War 2 and Kill Loads of people mate?'

'THUG 2 says' -

'Sorry i can't at the moment i'm Dressing up my Avatar, does a Pink Dress go with a Green Bag???' ;-D ;-D ;-D

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Magic_The_Celt - 403 days 17 hours ago

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Lol avatars, i doubt anyone gives a crap... i tried using the party system a few times but it dont seem to be good for anything

kinda like the 360 in general

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caffman - 403 days 15 hours ago

4 - the party system is hilarious!

last night, there where 4 of us on COD.WAW while our mate was chatting to us on COD4.

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