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Microsoft: Nearly 25m 360s Installed

At the BMO Capital Markets Interactive Entertainment Conference on Thursday, Microsoft said it expects to hit a notable milestone with the Xbox 360.

"By the end of this month, we expect our global installed base to reach 25 million units, surpassing that of the first Xbox," said Mindy Mount, CFO of the firm's Entertainment & Devices Division.

She said that the milestone is still "only a start," as "more than three-quarters" of a console's sales occur when it drops to $199 or lower. Three current models of Xbox 360 range from the $199 base Arcade version to the $399 Elite version following an early September price drop.

Due to that drop, Microsoft said sales of Xbox 360 rose 42 percent month-on-month in the U.S., 62 percent in Europe and 500 percent in traditionally Xbox-averse Japan.

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BIoodmask - 404 days 12 hours ago

1 - That is pretty impressive

Microsoft will have sold more 360s in roughly 75% of the amount of time they sold that many consoles for the original Xbox. Not bad for them being the new kid on the block.

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White-Sharingan - 404 days 11 hours ago

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new kids on the block?

its their second console

sure they arent veterans but not new kids on the block

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Bathyj - 404 days 11 hours ago

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Umm shipped, not sold. You guys always have a problem with that.

You always looking for a concession for being the "New Kid" too. Since when does that have anything to do with anything.

Sony was the New Kid and sold well over 100M PSOne's. M$ is only ONE generation younger than Sony you know.

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THAMMER1 - 404 days 11 hours ago

1.4 - Bathyj

Installed means sold. 24 million sold is a great achievement for XBOX360. Your problem is that it a positive achievement for the XBOX360. Please get over it already.

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Bitter Tears - 404 days 11 hours ago

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Dude Bathyj just wipe those tears up man I'll explain it to you.

The 360 was at 20 million installed close to the start of the year WORLDWIDE.

The 360 now is rounding 25 million installed WORLDWIDE. It should be 27 million shipped by now.

It shouldn't be much of a surprise there, shhhhhh, it's okay, I'll cry with you.

Our PS3s are great for LBP and R2, shhhhh, that's right just shhhhhhh.

:'(

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morganfell - 404 days 11 hours ago

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Yeah 25 mil. I have had 4 of them. And not because I wanted one in every bedroom.

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THAMMER1 - 404 days 11 hours ago

1.7 - Yeah morganfell I have bought four also.

One for my daughter, Nephews, Lil Brother and me included.

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Bubble Buddy - 404 days 11 hours ago

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How many broken? :P. Kidding. Congrats on MS for doing well. Combine with Sony to kick Wii's as$

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Genesis5 - 404 days 10 hours ago

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Thats funny because they were at 22 million this morning.

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Bathyj - 404 days 10 hours ago

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Theres some disillusional Mo Fo's right here. But thats why I love you guys. When I stand next to you I sound really smart.

M$ NEVER gives SOLD numbers. Must we argue this every time? Shipped baby. Thats all they deal with, for the same reason you trim your pubic hair. To make it appear bigger than it is.

Do you really think if they SOLD 25M and therefore must have shipped about 27 or 28M, they wouldn't be crowing from the mountain tops about how they were nearly 30M consoles strong.

No, that doesn't sound like M$ does it? Just like when they overstocked every retail chain on Christmas 07 so their numbers would be huge, only it meant they had to cut shipments for the next 6 months because in was April, May before stores could clear all that excess stock.

The bottomline is PS3 has outsold XB world wide every year since it came out, so that precious lead you'se care about so much has done nothing but get smaller. Its basic maths and doesn't change. Only your perception of it through M$'s spin doctoring can change.

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THAMMER1 - 404 days 10 hours ago

1.11 - Bathyj

Your are spinning out of controll. You need help.

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Bombomb - 404 days 10 hours ago

1.14 - hey i went through 6 ps2's

no kiddin and it took sony a while and didn't offer fixes or warranties

anything positive for ms turns into a spin--->super spin---super duper spin..

ms surpases the original xbox sales...ps3 fanboy "well nintendo did it better at one point"

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morganfell - 404 days 9 hours ago

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Worlwide NPD? Please. Now you are just making crap up. Go cry those bitter tears at someone else. Sony took Europe from MS, took the world, and will take the US overall this year.

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cherrypie - 404 days 8 hours ago

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"Umm shipped, not sold."

NO. Can you read? It said;

"By the end of this month, we expect our global installed base to reach 25 million units"

Do you "install" unsold machines? This is *not* simply shipped, but **INSTALLED** (sold).

Nice try. I *really* like the way you people try and blatantly re-write news as it is presented to you. Can't you read?

@morganfell
"Yeah 25 mil. I have had 4 of them."

Thats a fcuking lie. These are *sold* units; you DIDNT buy 4 seperate Xbox 360s -- and, that number has nothing to do with warranty repairs.

HOWEVER, because SONY told me to go frakc myself when I had **3** PS2s fail, **MY** 3 failed PS2s are included in the 100M PS2 number.

MS took care of its problem with a $0 warranty repair -- and fixed the problem last summer.

BTW - I've marked your comment as OFF TOPIC -- we need a "fanboy troll" button here for comments like yours.

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HWG - 404 days 8 hours ago

1.18 - Do not under any circumstance...

Listen to gametheory... when I confronted him with data in a private message, he refused to answer me and blocked me. Anything as such he says, should be totally ignored... he obviously does not wish to have debates, he just wants to have his fanboy argument and feel better.

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robep3 - 404 days 6 hours ago

1.19 - lol DOES THAT ......

......INCLUDE people who on 360 sites who SAY that are on 2,3,4,5,6,..upto 11TH 360 for one guy due to RROD? so LETS CHOP AT LEAST
15-20% for those (should be more LIKE 25-30%) so more like 19-20m at best.

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Jason 360 - 404 days 6 hours ago

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Doing ok is better than "old kids" or "old pro's" doing poorly.

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AAACE5 - 403 days 22 hours ago

1.22 - @Gametheory

That comment sounded extremely stupid! The NES came out during a time when videogames were being considered a fad, and alot of investors were ready to pull the plug on the gaming industry.

Technically, the NES had no comeptition, and were free to make new rules for gaming! The NES is responsible for gaming still being around, and it deserves it's respect!

But nintendo had enough time to etch it's way into gamers hearts! Sony got popular during a time when people wanted something different, which they provided and pushed the industry foward!

MS' main focus was to make online gaming popular, which they have done, and have caused Sony and Nintendo to take seriously!

So MS should get at least a little bit of respect from all gamers... especially if you like being able to play online games with your favorite controller, in front of your TV!

Not to mention the fact that they could reach that many consoles sold, despite having all kinds of problems along the way, while competing against console legends like Sony and Nintendo!

I know alot of you may hate MS (for whatever reason), but you should give them a little respect! MS' main contribution to gaming is online play and HDD's, while Nintendo and Sony were content on us buying multiple memory cards, and didn't think online gaming on a console was that important!

I respect all 3 companies! 4 if you include Sega(they did a few things in their time). Nintendo saved gaming! Sony revolutionalized gaming! MS connected gamers! Sega was first with online gaming!

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prowiew - 403 days 19 hours ago

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Just chill bathyj. And please, no need to insult others. That goes for everyone. Peace oout

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No Way - 403 days 17 hours ago

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It doesn't say that they sold 25m.. it says the expect to sale 25m, by the end of the year.

@BathyJ- Nobody cares.. Move along. And, please stop crying.. will ya? Grow up.

@gametheory - I myself went through 4 PS2's. And, my brother's together went through 7 of them. How's that so hard to believe? The PS2 had many problems.. I had one that had a disc read error, one stopped playing PS2 games(yea.. seriously), one that had it's own screen, the screen stopped working, and one that completely died..

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The Matrix - 403 days 14 hours ago

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I'm getting a 360 this holiday to compliment my PS3. Why argue which console is better when you can have them both and buy the best games from both sides?

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Imallvol7 - 404 days 12 hours ago

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congrats MS, now if we could just get the 360 and ps3 selling better than the Wii so companies would stop making shovel ware and make great games . . . wait . . . what am I saying? I can't even afford the games I want this month! There are so many!!!

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v1c1ous - 404 days 11 hours ago

2.1 - look at it this way

the leading console is always the one with the most crapstacular games (shovel ware).

unfortunately for wii, its specs have forced devs to go another route, which is the 360/ps3.

so in a way, the fact that wii is monopolizing the garbage games, it doesnt dilute the quality titles on gets to experience by owning a ps3/xbox 360.

so being a 360/ps3 only owner this gen isnt as bad as being a gamecube/xbox only owner like last gen, where all the good games were only on ps2.

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darkride66 - 404 days 11 hours ago

2.2 - Yeah, the Wii's the horse to beat.

Even though the 360 is now the cheapest console out there, that hasn't stopped the Wii from still doubling the 360's numbers over the last 2 months. I don't really know how much of an impact the price cut is going to have for the 360 in the long run.

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silverchode - 404 days 11 hours ago

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now ms and sony need to team up to take the wii down :)

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Imallvol7 - 404 days 11 hours ago

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can I get an AMEN!!!

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RememberThe357 - 404 days 10 hours ago

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AMEN!

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OOG - 404 days 11 hours ago

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now....its makes you wonder what it could have done without all of the rrod issues etc that plagued the system....

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Nicolator - 404 days 11 hours ago

4.1 - true fact

Even after all that MS did with the xbox360 and the RROD releasing a faulty system into the market the 700+mill for warranty they still sold 24+mill??? damnn.. and i knw loads off ppl that didnt buy it coz of the RROD. without that issues.. i am sure 360 would be pass 30 million by now.. without a dout..

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Bitter Tears - 404 days 11 hours ago

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Or maybe if there was no RRoD, people who didn't want failures and went to buy another console would have actually bought the 360. It would have been the PS2 of this generation though I doubt it'd reach it's numbers.

Wait Bathyj... are those tears running down your face? Wait man, chill out it's only numbers... Wait shhh wait, come on Bathyj it's not that serious. Shhhh. Look I'll cry with you again.

:'(

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Nicolator - 404 days 11 hours ago

4.4 - well

its still impressive nontheless can someone please take Wii down.. coz those guys are messing up teh gaming industry and taking us back to donkey kong...

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Dannagar - 404 days 10 hours ago

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@Bathyj

The Hardware to software ratio indicates other wise. The Xbox 360 has a high software to hardware tie-in ratio. It's higher than both Wii and Playstation 3. That wouldn't be the case if the average user bought 4 Xbox 360 systems. If it makes you feel better, you can pretend that's the case.

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cherrypie - 404 days 8 hours ago

4.6 - MARK THIS IDIOT AS SPAM

Bathyj>>>> TAKE YOUR TROLLING TO THE OPEN ZONE >>>>>

The heat issues were fixed under FREE WARRANTY. NO ONE had to buy a new machine to replace a broken one; because MS TOOK CARE OF ITS CUSTOMERS.

Now, I had -- and everyone I know -- had a PS2 fail (i have 3 failed in my closet right NOW)... what did Sony do to fix that? NOTHING.

Thats the difference, Sony's Ps2 sales **ARE** inflated by replacement units, whereas MS's are **NOT**.

You constantly bring this **FALSE** idea up, it only makes you look more ridiculous because it is actually SONY who's numbers are inflated by SCREWING over its customers.

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BlackTar187 - 403 days 16 hours ago

4.7 - I went thru 3 ps2's

maybe 4 but I dont know what you gus had with sony back then. I rememebr calling them adn barely explaing the problems I had and with in 10mins I got the okay for the boxes and next day sent all 3 out and with in 2-3 weeks had all 3 systems back for free no charge.

Im just staing my exp. with sony and multiple problems with the ps2 were all fixed no questions asked for free with excellent speed. But that still shows that I have bought 3-4 ps2's and that goes into the total. Im sure others have 2

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rhood022 - 404 days 11 hours ago

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That's amazing since, in a press release in May 2008, MS touted a US install base of 10 million and their global install base at "nearly 21 million." Even with more current numbers, including the "10 million milestone" in Europe, it would push the numbers at about 22 million and some change.

Soo..either MS has sold nearly 3 million consoles in about six months. Or they are inflating those numbers a bit.

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Blitzed - 404 days 11 hours ago

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Thats a good point. They did add the 'nearly' in there though, and that word is subjective. LOL

Its like 'soon', learn to use that word and it will keep you out of trouble with the wife.

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NickIni - 403 days 19 hours ago

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Nearly 25m just means over 20m to be honest. They do reckon by the end of the month, but they'll probably sell about 200k this month. If they're that close to 25m, then they would either just say they were at 25m, or not bother making this statement at all until they actually were at 25 million.

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THAMMER1 - 404 days 11 hours ago

6 - This article is going to expose allot of HATERS.

The XBOX360 has had it low points but it looks to getting over them pretty well.

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Software_Lover - 404 days 10 hours ago

7.1 - Shipped doesn't count toward RROD

For one, Microsoft doesn't ship out new consoles when one gets sent in for repair. They stupidly send out refurbished units from the factory. Which I believe is the main reason, some people got RROD multiple times.

And they have used the term shipped before. Installed is different. Same with Sony. Same with Nintendo.

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RememberThe357 - 404 days 10 hours ago

7.2 - I believe...

That now Sony is only reporting sale number now.

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cherrypie - 404 days 8 hours ago

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" When Microsoft says installed
They mean shipped and ready to be sold at retailers."

Who the hell do you know that?

You're making CRAP UP FFS. STFU.

Really, how much crap are you children goign to invent to make yourselves feel good?

The news: MS has sold 25M Xbox 360s. DEAL. WITH. IT.

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likedamaster - 404 days 10 hours ago

5.2 -

Well, these are the actual #'s for last month(October)

- Wii: 803K 116K (16.89%)
- DS: 491K 45.8K (-8.53%)
- Xbox 360: 371K 23.8K (6.85%)
- PSP: 193K 45.1K (-18.94%)
- PS3: 190K 42.4K (-18.24%)
- PS2: 136K 37.5K (-21.61%)

Edit: And these are NPD software sales

1. Fable II - Xbox 360 – 790K
2. Wii Fit w/ balance board - Wii – 487K
3. Fallout 3 - Xbox 360 – 375K
4. Mario Kart w/ wheel - Wii – 290K
5. Wii Play w/ remote - Wii – 282K
6. Saints Row 2 - Xbox 360 – 270K
7. SOCOM: U.S. Navy Seals Confrontation - PS3 – 231K
8. LittleBigPlanet - PS3 – 215K
9. NBA 2K9 - Xbox 360 – 202K
10. Dead Space - Xbox 360 – 193K

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GiantEnemyLobster - 404 days 11 hours ago

6 - The Xbox 360 currently has over 22 million consoles sold to date.

Unfortunately PS3rd Place only has 16 million. Lol.

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Bitter Tears - 404 days 11 hours ago

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Actually it's closer to 2.3-2.4 million sold, 2.6-2.7 million shipped.

PS3 is now at 19-20 million shipped/sold?

@tortella

Here's a tissue man, sit there and listen up.

With recent NPD information, this doesn't count everywhere else except the NA.

PlayStation 3 190K
Xbox 360 371K***

Hardware LTD:
PS2: 42.743.000
NDS: 22.893.000
WII: 13.351.000
PSP: 12.806.000
360: 11.613.000***
PS3: 5.684.000***

Hardware YTD:
WII: 5.981.000
NDS: 5.341.000
360: 2.459.000***
PS3: 2.441.000***
PSP: 2.308.000
PS2: 1.887.000

The 360 has taken worldwide sales of 2008 from PS3.

And before you mention the LBP and R2 thing...

LBP which was supposedly was suppose to outsell Fable II and Gears of War 2 has been embarrassed in the NPD in days... 215K. Fable II sold 350K at launch, Gears of War 2 has 2.1M first day.

Sources:
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http://www.n4g.com/industry...

Top 10 SW
Publisher Release Date Rank # Units
360 FABLE II MICROSOFT (CORP) Oct-08 1 790K***
WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-08 2 487K
360 FALLOUT 3 BETHESDA SOFTWORKS Oct-08 3 375K
WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO OF AMERICA Apr-08 4 290K
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA Feb-07 5 282K
360 SAINTS ROW 2 THQ (CORP) Oct-08 6 270K
PS3 SOCOM: U.S. NAVY SEALS CONFRONTATION SONY (CORP) Oct-08 7 231K
PS3 LITTLE BIG PLANET SONY (CORP) Oct-08 8 215K***
360 NBA 2K9 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP) Oct-08 9 202K
360 DEAD SPACE ELECTRONIC ARTS Oct-08 10 193K

Even SOCOM outsold LBP, most people were supposedly suppose to buy LBP on launch day, so the 4 day release argument is in the air.

Come on, stop your spinning and accept it.

Wipe up those tears.

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Bitter Tears - 404 days 10 hours ago

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tortella, you do realize that Microsoft never does announce games 2 years before release like Sony does right? When was Gears of War 2 announced? February 2008?

When was Killzone 2 announced? 2005? 2006? I don't even remember anymore and it's coming out in 2009!

Microsoft already hinted at 360 "surprises" so theres' your argument.

You do realize that the 360 still has SKUs at $399 and $299 right? Doesn't the "4x 50 dollar price drop" apply to the 360 as well? The arcade model can also be lowered by $30 intervals like the PS2 was.

I love how you compare BAD numbers to BAD numbers from both years. 190k consoles is nothing to gloat about there boy, the Wii and 360 are crushing the PS3 and the Wii is crushing the 360. Live with it bro, you're 3rd.

Quit your crying man, you're embarrassing yourself.

WAHHHHHHH THE 360 OUTSOLD THE PS3 AGAIN EVEN THOUGH LBP IS OUT WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE 360 IS A FLOP AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT WAAAAHHHHH THATS WHY IT OUTSOLD THE PS3 WWAAAAAAAHHHHH.

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Snukadaman_ - 404 days 8 hours ago

6.5 - This piece of the thread looks like the arguments of mental patients...

Cmon man forget what console sells more...wii is murdering both at this point.....jstfuajpycoc.

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pansenbaer - 404 days 7 hours ago

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"The 360 has taken worldwide sales of 2008 from PS3."

You start off talking about NPD data and then bring worldwide sales into this? The PS3 is about 1 million ahead of the 360 in worldwide sales for this year. So for the 360 to beat the PS3 in worldwide sales for 2008 they would need to sell 1 million MORE consoles than Sony in 2 months. Not going to happen.

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Jason 360 - 404 days 6 hours ago

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You are all wrong, PS3 just hit 15.

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joevfx - 403 days 14 hours ago

6.8 - your a fool

the 360 has been out a full year longer then the PS3. acutally, thast pretty bad numbers for the 360 compaired to the PS3 with a year lead in the market.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 403 days 12 hours ago

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speaking of talking out of your arse tortella where is your Nasim account?

I think Bitter Tears has the number's down why you seem to be speculating or in your words talking out of your arse. When you say things like

"Those are shipped numbers from MS ass

X360 doesnt selll anywhere in the world except USA"

Which is complete BS that anyone with a web browser can debunk. The 360 sells in all market's, maybe not the most but it does sell. The UK for example the 360 does outsell the PS3. When you say crap like that I'm not going to put much faith in your numbers.

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ambientFLIER - 404 days 10 hours ago

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Uh...the article says "Installed". Wouldn't that be the same thing as SOLD? 25 million Xboxes sold so far...and probably 26-27 million shipped. Cry me a river.

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2 cents - 404 days 9 hours ago

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No the article says they expect to reach 25 mill by the end of this month. I must agree tho these numbers are kind of fishy

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kingboy - 404 days 7 hours ago

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Someone will definitely not play fair with these sales reports when it all set and done just to stay ahead..what a shady practice!!

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devilhunterx - 403 days 21 hours ago

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Wow. If they remove the RROD figures, they would have "installed" over 9000!! IMPRESSIVE

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Traveler - 403 days 12 hours ago

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Wow, what ignorance.

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CertifiedGamer - 403 days 19 hours ago

13 - i doubt the ps2 will out do the ps3

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Shane Kim - 403 days 17 hours ago

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Well then it's safe to say that MS will drop 360 soon and start shoving a new console up your (xbot) asses. Expect so see alot of Shane Kim ;).

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cmrbe - 403 days 12 hours ago

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Yeah right. Only in xbots wet dreams.

25 million shipped which will take them another 3 months to sell and this includes defective consoles haha.

So in other words. MS will sell 25 million x360 in 3 years and 3 months while it took them 4 years for the xbox

Wow great freaking improvement. After being first to market a whole year. Being cheaper than the PS3 and stealing alot of PS exclusives this is the best MS can do?. Pathetic really.

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Traveler - 403 days 11 hours ago

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First of all, it's reported that the 360 will reach an "installed" base of 25m by the end of this month (November) and you are claiming that it will take them "3 years and 3 months"? Are you dense? That's slightly over 3 years, not "3 years and 3 months". So they did in 3 years what it took them 4 years to do last generation. And that is considering the Wii sales juggernaut giving them fierce competition on top of the PS3. Yes, I would say that is a very nice improvement.

You attack the 360 and call its sales performance "pathetic", but I wonder what you would call the PS3's sales performance. Last generation, by the end of its second year the PS2 had sold around 40 million consoles. The PS3 on the other hand hasn't even reached 17 million consoles sold. So the PS3 has sold less than half the number of consoles as its predecessor did in the same time frame, while the 360 in a little over 3 years has surpassed the total amount its predecessor sold.

The fact is, the 360 has done much better than its predecessor, while the PS3 has sold much slower than its predecessor. Try to spin it however you like, but those are the facts.

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cmrbe - 402 days 9 hours ago

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This kid thinks that we are all stupid. Traveler. The PS2 sold about 25 million in two years with GT3, MGS2, FFX,GTA3 out for the PS2 at 299 USD you dumb idiot.

http://vgchartz.com/hwtable...

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Traveler - 403 days 12 hours ago

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Wow, the sony defense force denial is strong in this thread. Claiming that these numbers are incorrect when you don't even back up those claims with evidence of your own is just pathetic. The truth is that every bit of data we have points to the 360 being close to a 25M installed base. http://www.vgchartz.com/

The 360 just outsold the PS3 nearly 2-to-1 in North America in October. We don't know what the numbers are from several regions but we know that Microsoft reported that the 360 outsold the PS3 in the UK after the price drop by nearly two to one: http://www.bit-tech.net/new...

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cmrbe - 403 days 11 hours ago

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you use VGcharts as proof LMAO!! but check it. It say 22.5 million. Knowing how VG inflates x360 numbers i am not surprise if its between 21 and 22 million.

The x360 should have done much much better than xbox considering

1. First to the market a whole year without competition.
2. Much cheaper then the PS3 in its lifecycle sofar.
3. Much improved collection of games including Halo 3. MS biggest game.
4. X360 is MS second entry into the console market therefore more well known unlike the xbox.
5. X360 had the 26 million xbox fanbase to rely on especially when the xbox was no longer supported.

After all this MS only manages to reach the xbox installbase 9 months early?. xbox didn't win last gen. You xbots are the ones in denial.

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Traveler - 403 days 11 hours ago

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And yet you provide no evidence or numbers backing up your claims whatsoever. Pathetic. It isn't 9 months either smart guy. The 360 is reaching that installed base almost a year earlier than the original Xbox.

Spin, spin, spin. You spin me right round baby right round...like a record baby...

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cmrbe - 403 days 11 hours ago

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look at the numbers you provided dumbass. http://www.vgchartz.com/ Do you know how to count?.

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