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PSM3 Blog: Fallout 3 looks rubbish on PS3

PSM3 staff writes: "Fallout 3 looks rubbish on PS3 - Claim the predictable internet headlines, but we've played it on all three platforms - and here's the real, if less exciting, truth...

Our exclusive Fallout 3 PS3 review (from PSM3#107) has leaked onto the Internet and, as expected, a single sentence has been dragged out, beaten and interrogated under a spotlight. This one; "The PS3 version compares poorly to its Xbox and PC counterparts." Which, in the parlance of the Internet, obviously means; "THE PS3 VERSION SUCKS! XBOX WINS! ANOTHER CRAPPY PORT!" But that isn't the case. The PS3 version just looks SLIGHTLY WORSE than the other versions."
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PSM3: Fallout 3 looks bette... - xbox360fanboy.com | By: Cyrus365
PS3 Fallout "Compares ... - kotaku.com | By: Cyrus365
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Published: 427 days 14 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360 | PC
 
 

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TOO PAWNED - 427 days 14 hours ago
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Guys from Bethesda or what ever name is, called them and ordered them to say something like this. Hahha, nice try, like i said i am not buying crappy ports, instead i will get FarCry 2.
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Amnesiac - 427 days 14 hours ago
1.1 -
Obv damage control
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chaosatom - 427 days 14 hours ago
1.2 - HOW COULD besthda mess it up after Oblivion? it's beyond me.
they had the ps3 figured out.

p.s PSM didn't even finish the 360 version !! I guess I'll wait for a few more reports before slashing out on the besthda.

YOU know that Kotaku is going to declare 360 winner this gen by reading the articles.
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SL1M DADDY - 427 days 14 hours ago
1.3 - Regardless...
The fanboys seem to have run with something that is purely slight. It's just not needed anymore and those that are looking for such minute detail differences are just wasting too much time on something that truly doesn't matter.
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hay - 427 days 14 hours ago
1.4 -
Fanboys are capable of riding ants for their holy crusade.

We will see how this situation will evolve.
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Masta_fro - 427 days 14 hours ago
1.5 - This is what you do..
Stop buying crappy ports. And even if your are buying crappy ports you should say youre not gonna buy crappy ports.

Because developers listen to the internet (sometimes anyway) and they get scared...Because even if the game sells 200,000 in the first week, this happens: "Man, if only the ps3 version had been a bit more polished, we probably would have sold 300,000."

So I WILL NOT BUY THIS SH!T, even if I am.
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Nineball2112 - 427 days 13 hours ago
1.6 - @ Masta_fro
Now that was funny! Bubbles!

I'm definitely not buying this one (even if I am). :D
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Why o why - 427 days 13 hours ago
1.7 - double true
I WONT BUY IT (even though ive got it already)
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comm13 - 427 days 13 hours ago
1.8 - Masta is right
But you also know that there will be comparison videos the first day this will come out and the "news" will have 5 pages of comments.
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himdeel - 427 days 13 hours ago
1.9 - Fallout3 will equal...
...a no buy for some PS3 fans now. With the economy kicking my buttcheeks as of late I've decided to ONLY buy exclusives for 360 and PS3. Multiplatform games nowadays are RENT or BORROW ONLY "for me" when they aren't designed properly, supported, or developed to be identical on all platforms. It's just too expensive to justify purchasing what I'd consider a half assed product.

I expect exclusive titles to be the AAA products and appreciate it when the actual games meet my expectations. Maybe later when the economy turns back around I can go back to buying multiplatform titles but for now it's a no go.
1.10 Man_of_the_year | 427 days 13 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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Diamondwolf - 427 days 12 hours ago
1.11 - OMFG!!!!
I'm in utter shock :) And extremely happy at the same time!

By God, for the first time, I'm going to agree with Man of the Year

Nice comment bro!

I've been saying the same thing when people been writing on stopping support on the PS3 for [Valve, 2K, EA, (insert 3rd party dev)]

PS3 fanboys need to stop crying over this and enjoy the game. The minute you guys boycott and stop purchasing a game because it looks worse than the others is when the support will STOP!

If you want to show the devs and make them pay attention, MORE PEOPLE HAVE TO BUY THESE SO-CALLED CRAPPY PORTS!

Publishers and Devs will follow the money. If PS3 is making more money than X-box and PC and proves to be the best investment, the games will DRASTICALLY improve
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himdeel - 427 days 12 hours ago
1.12 - Diamond...
...while I understand your logic in part I'd don't think buying more bad games is the answer. These developers have to prove their mettle first and then maybe people will consider buying more of their titles. Companies are looking at the bottom line which is money in the bank.

I think if developers continue to lose gobs of money on their mulitiplatform titles on a particular platform they wont just stop making games for that platform. From a business prospective they've already invested money in developing the title for the platform and have already lost some money.

So it usually comes down to do they want to spend the money on the front end to create a quality product to break even/make a profit or are they willing to lose money on both ends by not properly backing a project.
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Diamondwolf - 427 days 11 hours ago
1.13 - @himdeel
But that's the thing Himdeel, is these games aren't that bad. The only thing that's affects these games are the people who want to get in p!ssing contests with the other console whether it's better on PS3 or Xbox 360. Developers have already shown that they are capable of doing a good port and doing a bad one.

It comes down to scheduling and what people don't understand is that these devs have a deadline. If they delay the PS3 port because they want to optimize more, then people will cry more. It's a lose, lose cycle, so it all basically boils down to user support.

True they will follow the money, and if you know a particular platform is your true golden goose, you will get that extra time, set better deadlines, and make sure that you can maximize your profits with you're money maker, in this case console-wise, it's the 360.

Think about it, if the game was exclusive, would this issue stop you from buying the game if you didn't know about it? It doesn't take away from the gameplay, it'll just bother the graphic wh*res who need every single game to be realistic and perfect.........fun doesn't matter anymore.
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DIRTYHAIRYJOYSTICK - 427 days 11 hours ago
1.14 - I have to agree with TOO PAWNED on this one
I think it is a reviewers responsiblity to let the public know the truth, but in many cases (including this one) I wonder what the "powers that be" are behind changes in stance? Considering Oblivion ran smoother on PS3 when it finally was released this turn of events doesn't sound like fair game, and maybe Microsoft actually got more than just exclusive DLC from Bethesda on this one.

And for the group of posters futher down preaching about supporting a game when it's obvious the company doesn't care. Look Bethesda can release a couple free themes for the PSN and make it seem they are committed to releasing a quality PS3 product, but coming from Oblivion to this if the actual game quality improves on every platform except one then they can count me out when it's only that one platform that matters to me.

EDIT. Diamond Wolf, thanks for the feedback. To me it's the principal of the whole thing. Obviously the guy noticed it, so regardless of how he tries to smooth it out and explain to make it no big deal it can't happen now. It sucks that performance for Bethesda on the PS3 got worse while the other platforms got better. I'm sure the game is still playable on PS3, but there's also a bunch of other games that are too. If I owned a 360 I would definetely pick this one up because it's clear Bethesda is catering to PC and 360 for Fallout 3.
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Diamondwolf - 427 days 11 hours ago
1.15 - Well DHJ
Nice comment, and no offense, but that sucks to be in that state of mind.

Me personally I will voice my opinion to Bethesda, but I will also day 1 PS3 this game. I love the Fallout universe, and if the game sucks, then it's not going to be because the 360 is "slightly" better, it's going to be because a) The gameplay reeks or b) They destroyed my beautiful vision of the fallout series spawned from Fallout, F2 and Fallout Tactics (Brotherhood of Steel sucked :/ )

I guess I just don't get it, I mean when I played Goldeneye64 when it came out, I was still immersed in that world when the graphics were ooogly.

To me a horrible port is Madden 08, it ran super slow and was practically unplayable
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Jamegohanssj5 - 427 days 11 hours ago
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Everyone who knows me on here knew I wasn't going to buy this anyway. I'm more than likely not even going to buy Far Cry 2.

TGSI
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himdeel - 427 days 10 hours ago
1.17 - Man of Year...
...I acknowledge your points because they are good ones. I could use dance around and argue that I wouldn't buy the exclusive with these problems but I cannot in good faith say so categorically. I however continue to take issues with two duplicate games looking/playing differently on two similar platforms.
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Lifendz - 427 days 10 hours ago
1.18 - Same here
65 bucks in this day and age for an inferior product? No thanks. I don't care how you spin it, if it's inferior it's inferior. I wasn't going to get LBP (I don't have internet access for my PS3) but now may I will. It's a shame though cuz I was looking forward to Fallout 3 on PS3.

And BTW, if the difference was slight or negligible, then why mention it? There's no reason to. I mean, you know that people that own both are going to buy the superior version and you know some people (myself included) will not pay full price for an inferior product. Madden 08 for PS3 was said to have a slight frame rate problem and that "slight" problem bugged the heck outta me. I returned the game and said "maybe next time."

Heck, maybe now I'll pick up Dead Space or Mirror's Edge.
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Tarasque - 427 days 8 hours ago
1.19 - DIRTYHAIRYJOYSTICK
"Considering Oblivion ran smoother on PS3 when it finally was released this turn of events doesn't sound like fair game, and maybe Microsoft actually got more than just exclusive DLC from Bethesda on this one."

This is such and idiotic statement i can't even believe someone would say this. You know why the PS3 version was a little better, first off it was being a little rushed to get it to be a launch title for the 360, secondly they had almost a year and a half to port it over to the ps3. Sure it is going to look better. That is the same difference as the Ut3 looking alot better on the 360 why, cause it came out a 6 months later for the 360 so they had more time to polish.
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jaysquared - 427 days 3 hours ago
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Yes stop buying crappy ports PS3 owners so that they don't have to release their games on the PS3.. I dont understand that reasoning of not buyin crappy ports. Maybe if PS3 owners buy more games they will convert their main platfor to the PS3 instead of the 360.
1.21 GameDev | 427 days 1 hour ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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Sarcasm - 427 days 1 hour ago
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I'm curious for pictures to back up these claims.

I already played Fallout 3 on the 360. I don't think this should stop PS3 gamers to buy the game. And if there are any differences at all, they are probably minimal like most other ports.

Unless it's half the resolution and runs at 15 frames per second, then okay don't buy it then.
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DIRTYHAIRYJOYSTICK - 427 days 1 hour ago
1.23 - Tarasque
So Oblivion was rushed, huh. Right. As for the PS3 port having all that extra time to cook making it better makes sense and I already knew that because it works like that for any game. But since they took the time to make a game on PS3 already what I was saying is how come they supposedly don't know how to anymore? Maybe there was a fire in the company building and they lost all the PS3 code? :)
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callahan09 - 426 days 19 hours ago
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I don't know why it didn't occur to me last night when I first saw this article on here, but GEE-WHIZ That Is A Misleading Title! PSM3 is not at all saying it looks rubbish on PS3.
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Quickedie - 426 days 19 hours ago
1.25 - Maybe, just maybe:
Maybe should PS3 fanboys should stop blaming "dumb" and "lazy" developers for inferior ports on their mighty PS3.
Be happy that its even available on PS3, its a difficult technology to work with.
So, also what do you care about a SLIGHTLY inferior port. Play it, and enjoy it. Unless its buggy or looks like sh!t, there reason to complain. Look, I like to play even newer games on my crappy PC. Now, do I start whining because it COULD look better on a $2000 rig?

If you're such a whiner, play PS3 exclusive games such as Uncharted or LBP which are truly fantastic games. OR buy the PC or XBox version if you have one, you shouldn't care who gets the money UNLESS you own Sony or Microsoft stocks.

Now stop this flamebait.
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Raz - 426 days 15 hours ago
1.26 - Oh, for...
Same uproar as about Bioshock. I'm playing it now (Bioshock, that is) and yes, if I stick my nose right up next to something; the textures sometimes turn to pixelated crap.

But I don't care. Because I'm enjoying the game, which rocks.

Similarly, Fallout will rock. And I'll enjoy the gameplay without nitpicking. ..And all you pixel whores can suck my left nut.

That is all. ^_^
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Dmitry Orlov - 426 days 14 hours ago
1.27 - Ow c'on!
This is a BLOG POST. Why the hell is it news!?
I've been saying it in x360 area all the time. Now ps3 area is plagued too?
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PimpHandStrong - 427 days 14 hours ago
2 - ummmm
ok

go read the posts on the last story and you will see the true meaning of fanboys
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Fanboy Fart - 427 days 14 hours ago
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lol, so true.

On topic, the games have slightly differences because of the different architectures of the hardwares, so what, is the same game. Play games and stop this console war BS, be f@cking gamers.
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ericnellie - 427 days 14 hours ago
2.3 - True --
I'm sick of hearing fanboys say "Well they should have built the PS3 version first"...in what generation has any company ever built on the console with the smallest user base first? Sure, some companies will but most won't!
What, that's like saying that last generation they should have made games for the original xbox first and ported games over to PS2...
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SL1M DADDY - 427 days 13 hours ago
2.4 - @ ericnellie
So basically what you are saying is that developers should make their games on the Wii then port them over to the 360 and PS3? lol

I kid! I kid!
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bruiser81 - 427 days 13 hours ago
2.5 - @2.3
The ps3 has already proven it can sell software, users of the ps3 have also proven that they are far less inclined to buy an inferior port either out of pride or because they are dual console owners. Software developers i'm sure have picked up on this trend so its to their financial benefit for the games to be on par. Install base is only taken into account i believe if a console has yet to sell 10 mil or what ever the critical point is, the ps3 has long since passed that. What i'm saying is developers will develop in whatever order that brings them more profit. If thats the only way to have to ps3 version looking up to snuff and the porting it to the 360 then so be it. I have read its easier to port from the ps3 anyway
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ericnellie - 427 days 10 hours ago
2.6 - LOL @ at Sl1M DADDY
That was a good come back! I like that.
What I was really getting at is, if you eventually plan on releasing a game on PC when you do a multi-platform title, why start with the PS3 when 360/PC are similar to develop for;)
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DaTruth - 427 days 8 hours ago
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You can't port from PS3 to PC so any game that is on the PC will always have PC as the lead. It's impossible to port up and get the superior graphics that are always on the PC.
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Rich1631 - 427 days 14 hours ago
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No trophies, No DLC, slighty worse version, Bethesda can kiss my ****. Goodnight.
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ParaDise_LosT - 427 days 14 hours ago
3.1 - "No trophies, No DLC, slighty worse version, Bethesda can kiss my ****. Goodnight"
The game still got a 90% you know -_-
Just because they said 'it isn't as good' doesn't mean its crap.
FO3 is still a Must buy for any console....
Its a great game period.
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Rich1631 - 427 days 14 hours ago
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Well then maybe I will rent it, but I HATE lazy developers and it seems Bethesda has won that award. With competition so rough this fall and the economy the way it is, you think the companies would try to win you over. Gears of War 2 and Resistance 2 come out the following week and they take much more priority over a lackluster port.
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Sexius Maximus - 427 days 13 hours ago
3.3 - Whatever makes you feel better...
You can blame the devs all you want, or you can pull your fanboy head out of your a** and realize that the Cell is great multipurpose chip, but not the best gaming chip. I own all three systems, and I'm happy to say that I'll be getting the better version...the 360 version. I love my PS3, it's a sexy, sexy machine, but devs can't always be blamed. Maybe Sony shouldn't have tried to implement their own technology, when there are chipsets that are just good and easier for devs to use. God bless them, buts it Sonys fault, not Bethesdas.
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The Lazy One - 427 days 13 hours ago
3.4 - Game developers are not lazy
That's just a stupid claim. They put in more man hours in some weeks than you spend awake. None of them are lazy. Just because they have a harder time working with certain architecture is not laziness. Would I call you lazy because you don't walk everywhere on stilts?

You have no idea how much work goes into a AAA game. The only reason oblivion looked debatably better is because they had an extra year to develop it. How many multi-platform titles do you need before developers stop being lazy and it starts MAYBE being development issues across two radically different architectures like countless developers have already said publicly.
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ChrisGTR1 - 427 days 12 hours ago
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lol, this isnt a rental game you know. if this is anything like oblivion then this game is gonna be 100+hours
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Lucreto - 427 days 11 hours ago
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Its not the developers fault the PS3 is having problems the cell has to slow down to get the code to work. The cell is like getting a mathematician to do basic adding which will slow him down and annoy him. Give him a complicated equation and watch him go.
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theEnemy - 427 days 14 hours ago
4 - The PS3 version just looks SLIGHTLY WORSE than the other versions.
How do you define SLIGHTLY WORSE ?

Worse is like much badder than bad. Worse > Bad > Mediocre

Anyway, it's still awful on why Bethesda won't add trophies.

Either Sony didn't pay them or Microsoft payed too much.
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sajj316 - 427 days 14 hours ago
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That is what I want to know. Bioshock looked slightly worse than the 360 version running in 1080p but my opinion changed after running in 720p and after 2K confirmed a patch for the Big Daddy textures. Why not throw some comparison screenshots to prove your statement? Why not throw in a video or two to validate your claims that the PS3 has inferior frame rates when you claimed in your article that the 360 might have the same issue but you haven't played those levels yet? Why mention it in comparison if you haven't compared it visually yet?
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chaosatom - 427 days 14 hours ago
4.2 - so true, about Microsoft paying them money
for DLC and making their version better.
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creeping judas - 427 days 13 hours ago
4.3 - @ chaos
if it's so true can you provide a link for me?? otherwise don's say things that you cant back up. Otherwise it's called blowing smoke out of your a**.

Sony doesnt require developers to include trophies, were as MS require that each game has achievements. At the same time, if Bethseda was putting in 360 achievements how hard would it be to copy those same ones and add it to the PS3 version?? That is lazy.
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ultimolu - 427 days 13 hours ago
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Agreed.

How *is* it slightly worse?
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PistolPumptMonk - 427 days 12 hours ago
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Worse > bad > mediocre?? Is english your primary language? These words have completely different uses.

Worse is a term which COMPARES two or more objects, and HOW MUCH WORSE is completely relative.

Bad and mediocre are stand alone descriptors that don't require any comparison UNLESS you say bad compared to, more mediocre than, etc.
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CaptIndecisive - 427 days 14 hours ago
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Think I'll get the PC version instead anyway lol
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