No trophy support for Fallout 3 at launch

solidt12 - 475 days 10 hours ago

That Sux but i am still buying the game on Day one. I guess they were to far into development when trophy firmware came out so they figured they would do it after they finish the game.

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Rama26285 - 475 days 10 hours ago

Yeah I agree. I really hope they're actually planning to implement trophies in the future and it's not just a "oh maybe we will" sort of attitude.

I'm sure us gamers have shown that the majority of us want trophies and that trophy implemented games make a difference to us and our decisions in what we buy, and that will give them a good enough reason to add them in the future.

Here's to hoping and wishing....

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Mitchell - 475 days 10 hours ago

Still a day one for me, but Far Cry 2 sounds so much more attractive now for a First-person game.

They'd better patch Trophies in within the month, after the exclusive DLC crap we PS3 gamers deserve it.

EDIT: Who the hell is disagreeing? Do you not want Trophies?

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Alvadr - 475 days 9 hours ago

We already knew this. They said so at E3.

Il probebly wait until they patch before making my purchase. Il be too busy with LBP & Resistance anway

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gambare - 475 days 8 hours ago

yeah, it sux, they already know the PS3 users will be too busy with exclusive titles like LBP and R2 so they won't pay any attention to Fallout.

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harrisk954 - 475 days 7 hours ago

Trophies were not an "overnight" development for the PS3. Obviously, they had to have been working on it for some time. In other words, coding a brand new firmware update to incorporate the trophies was not done overnight.Sony should have given all of its developers access to the code earlier so that they could have incorporated trophies in all of the games that currently don't support them. And Sony needs to be forcing developers to implement trophies just like MS does. But what I really don't understand is why developers don't want to go back and put trophies into the games. It increases the shelf-life/longevity of the title and people will go back and play older games that they either never played or that they have since stopped playing just to get trophies. Uncharted is a perfect example. A lot of people went out and picked it up b/c of the trophies. I know that I went back and replayed it (several times to finally get Platinum!). It just makes no sense to me. Seems like a bad business move! Plus, Naughty Dog talked about how easy it was to implement trophies in Uncharted b/c they already had mapped out achievements. Since the devlopers of multi-platform games (such as Fallout) have already implemented acheivements in the 360 version, then why would it be such a difficult task to add this to the PS3 version? Wouldn't they want to sell as many copies as possible for as long as possible??

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chaosatom - 475 days 10 hours ago

down the road.

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thor - 475 days 11 hours ago

Yeah but how hard can it be to put trophies in that are just the same as the achievements? You've already got the code to tell when someone gets the achievement, just change the Xbox-specific achievement unlocked code into PS3-specific trophy awarded code.... I can't see it being more complicated than that. And by the time it releases the trophy code will have been available for many months.

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Fishy Fingers - 475 days 11 hours ago

well that's something I simply cant answer as I have no experience in that area, but I believe Sony said it takes a few guys half a day to implement trophies.

Now if that's accurate you'd think they could manage to get them in for launch, but the developer makes it clear they don't have enough time to get it done for launch so there's not much point questioning it.

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Jenzo - 475 days 9 hours ago

Agree with Fishy. I'd rather have the game on time than have trophies or achievements. They are fun to have but in the end not that important.

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hi6hli6ht - 475 days 10 hours ago

for some its bragging rights so they go and work for whatever it is the achievement asks for

for some people [like me] its a reason to replay the game and sometimes do certain things i wouldnt normally do. some achievements make u do creative things and opens up new doors for things to do in the game.

either way it gives games replayablilty and/or gives the player a reason to play the game and do certain things and *usually* in the high profile games, these achievement/trophies take alot of work to get and ur playing the game even longer. and of course theyre optional which makes them even better.

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VF34EJ25 - 475 days 10 hours ago

5.1 is right. It CAN add longevity if the user wants to use the feature.

A lot of people buy only one game every month or two, or sometimes longer. Not everybody is wealthy enough to buy a new game everytime they're bored.

So what does that person do when they beat the game 2-3 times? They can choose to tackle the achievements/trophies which is like a game within itself.

Of course to other people who don't understand that concept, it looks like it's a waste of time and is for no reason. But if you look at it that way, playing games and beating it is a waste of time.

Playing games is meant for entertainment and self satisfaction. Achievements and trophies is just another form that supports that for the user who wants it. Those who don't want it and don't care about it, can simply just ignore it altogether.

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Drekken - 475 days 10 hours ago

It isnt HUGE... BUT, if the game is releasing without them to be implemented at a later date than this sways me not to get the game when it releases. I love beating games, but I wont play through again just for trophies. I will wait for the trophies so I can level up.

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Dannagar - 475 days 9 hours ago

It helps gamers compete with each other indirectly.

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m-s-8-2 - 475 days 9 hours ago

Longevity is a good thing in a game. I'd previously played through Uncharted 2 times, got all of the in game awards. When I was bored last week, I deleted my saves and downloaded the trophy patch and played through it 2 more times to get all of the trophies. It was almost as enjoyable the 3 and 4th times as it was the first, but I might not have ever bothered had they not done the patch.

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ape007 - 475 days 9 hours ago

achievements some times make the game more hardcore and challenging,more valuable

example:cod 4 on veteran and mile high club on veteran,gears of war on insane,finding all truesers in uncharted and get the platinum trophy,show your friends,stardust,geometry wars etc...

achievements sometimes makes you more kiddy and stupid

example: renting avatar just for achievements,playing medicore games more than big titles because they have more points,tell your friend online:please let's do this halo 3 achievements(in multiplayer)

am gonna buy star wars:tfu for 360 cause achievements sealed the deal for me,it adds more longevity to the game,imagine tfu has finish the game on hardest difficulty achievements,you know what am talking about.

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SL1M DADDY - 475 days 8 hours ago

bad games make sales. I have been known to scrounge through the bargain bin for a few cheap games to help with my GS. I have not done this in a while but I remember getting hooked on the gamer score. Now, I play games for their worth.

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zer0man1 - 475 days 5 hours ago

I respect what you guys are saying about achievements and trophies adding replay value to games, but there are many gamers who don't need them as a reason to buy or re-explore a game.

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Relcom - 475 days 10 hours ago

your not MK_red.....

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rhood022 - 475 days 10 hours ago

uhh..huh.

Let's do the check list:

1) flimsy reasoning for original intent of purchase for one particular console
2) followed by a list of more concrete reasons to purchase for the other console that include the word "definitive."

hmm...I wonder.

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Fishy Fingers - 475 days 10 hours ago

Jan 1st 2009 mandatory trophy support.

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TheMART at Xboxkings - 475 days 8 hours ago

Well COD4 also no trophy's on the PS3. And won't get them either in the future.

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bandoors - 475 days 8 hours ago

if the trophy are retroactive i will buy the game if not ill wait ^^

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CAPT IRISH - 475 days 6 hours ago

you are an idiot

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WIIIS1 - 474 days 22 hours ago

Trophies - nice copycat idea, poor implementation. Will likely be the same for Home.

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themyk - 475 days 10 hours ago

actually it would suck to be a 360 owner if sony were pricks and made these games come out with trophies. because then they would have to delay the game to add them. see sony told us months ago that they weren't going to make these developers who were nearly done with their games put trophy support in them.

but starting in 09 i think. all games would have to have them.

so you 360 crowd should be thankful sony aren't a bunch of pricks.

maybe thats why sony has so many developers doing exclusive games for them. because they aren't a holes to them.

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harv052 - 475 days 10 hours ago

Oh yeah, that too...

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VF34EJ25 - 475 days 10 hours ago

Yeah but trophies aren't retroactive. So whoever has been puttin hard hours into the game, probably don't want to do it all over again.

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LeonSKennedy4Life - 475 days 10 hours ago

Not true.

Warhawk trophies are retroactive.

If Incog. can do it, Bethesda should be able to.

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Drekken - 475 days 10 hours ago

Warhawk trophies, like burnout are online and logged to you account. Most games can share saved games. I assume fallout falls under the latter and will not have retroactive trophies.

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DavidMacDougall - 475 days 4 hours ago

They'll say they will add them later , then when the game is months into its lifespan some suit will go there is no point wasting money when we can make Fallout4 faster

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ravinshield - 475 days 4 hours ago

f*ck those wannabe achievements

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vega75 - 475 days 10 hours ago

thats one of the reasons why i'm pickup the 360 version on day one.

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Im Sick Of PS3 Flops - 475 days 10 hours ago

No doubt guys

I saw a video for this game , looks fantastic

I forgot about the exclusive DLC , and thats enough reason to get the xbox360 version

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Tmac - 475 days 8 hours ago

Lol, I like how Xbox's only good games as of lately are multi-plats, Infinite Floppery and Too Flop just don't cut it.

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ravinshield - 475 days 4 hours ago

even is some of our games do flop we still have way more games than ur blue ray player

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gambare - 475 days 10 hours ago

but you said in other topic that you don't have a PS3 because you mom couldn't afford one

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juuken - 475 days 9 hours ago

PSN sucks because trophies aren't implemented in the game as of right now.

Lol, you're really smart Mart. /sarcasm

Read closely-The vice president also didn't rule out trophies in the future, which means there could be a patch for the game.

LarVanian: Yes...why do I bother with stupidity? *sighs*

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LarVanian - 475 days 9 hours ago

juuken leave Mart alone. He has had enough to deal with this year such as
- Bioshock coming to PS3
- Metal Gear Solid 4 not/never coming to 360
- Having to miss out on Resistance 2 with 60 players online in favor of Queers of War 2 with 5 vs 5 team death-matches.
- Having to buy multiple flops such as Ninja Gaiden, Infinite discovery and too human
- Loosing several of his 360 consoles to the RROD

If Mart/Power of Green wants to get excited over Fallout 3 achievements then let him. Hes only a child after all.

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TheMART at Xboxkings - 475 days 8 hours ago

@ Juuken

Nice. Well it COULD come one day. But then the game is old. Pretty much sucks if you don't want to play the game again, but you're missing out on the gamerpoints.

COD4 isn't even getting the update.

That's why PSN gamerpoints make the system gimped. I get points for every game I play on the 360. Now you get some, some not. Implement something good or just don't. BUt not this semi-moron trophy system

@ LarVanian

Oh wow you just hurt me there.

* Getting Bioshock 1.5 year after the 360 gamers played it. Old stuff, I rather play something new. Like DMC4, GTAIV and FFXIII released at the same day from the system it got stolen from.
* MGS4 first is a BluRay movie, and not my kind of game, but still Konami is 3rd party. Koijama can say it never comes. Konami can decide they will. But even then I would only find it funny to see the PS3 fans cry their heart out I wouldn't play it.
* Quality over Quantity. Gears 2 over R2
* NG2 got a 8.2 out of 10 average. GT5p demo got 8.0, Heavenly Sword got 8.1 out of 10 average. So the so called PS3 great games flopperdaflopped harder then NG2
* Infinite Discovery & Too Human both 7 out of 10 games. Just good games. Real flops only go to the PS3 with Haze and Lair just rated over a 5 out of 10

CAN YOU SAY FLLLLOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPS3

- Metal Gear Solid 4 not/never coming to 360
- Having to miss out on Resistance 2 with 60 players online in favor of Queers of War 2 with 5 vs 5 team death-matches.
- Having to buy multiple flops such as Ninja Gaiden, Infinite discovery and too human
- Loosing several of his 360 consoles to the RROD

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gambare - 475 days 8 hours ago

oh POGMarty boy...... that's all your argument? microsoft NEEDS to buy extras like the "exclusives" DLC that may never see the light, remember GTA4? the famous DLC made that game boost their sales but... oh boy... it didn't matter at the end and guess what... it may never see the light.

Trophies? we will get them sooner or later and free with many other stuff.

BTW enjoy the last year of the 360.

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NipGrip - 475 days 7 hours ago

Mart, you lost me at calling Gears 2 quality instead of a cheap rehash ripoff aimed at deserving (and expecting it seems) Xbox owners. You guys just eat up the rehashes with little innovation don't you? Ohh.. You can grab guys now and use them as body armor! Woooooww.. I'd take that over more people in co-op or online anyday, right?

Enjoy your shoddy 360 system. I know how much it hurts when you buy something and then it loses people's interest and people jump ship and it breaks down constantly and well, there you are with your lousy investment and everyone else is playing with the cool toys. Hey at least you'll get Mii ripoffs this Christmas.

Try not to take it too hard though. You can still sell that POS system on Craigslist maybe and almost be able to buy the real next gen gaming system. It's a little more expensive than that toy you've got there called the 360, but it's a bit more technical and advanced. It comes with a manual so you should be all set.

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Rekyyli - 475 days 7 hours ago

But that LarVanian guy just got teabagged bigtime. Well it only does good for fanbois like him.

"Having to buy multiple flops such as Ninja Gaiden, Infinite discovery and too human."

- NG2 got a 8.2 out of 10 average. GT5p demo got 8.0, Heavenly Sword got 8.1 out of 10 average. So the so called PS3 great games flopperdaflopped harder then NG2. Infinite Discovery & Too Human both 7 out of 10 games. Just good games. Real flops only go to the PS3 with Haze and Lair just rated over a 5 out of 10.

Epic fail pal, epic fvcking fail. But that´s what happens when u r having sex with your console. Good day to you sir.

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Xlll - 475 days 2 hours ago

"NG2 got a 8.2 out of 10 average"

8.1 actually and sad you need to go to a game released way before NG2.

MSG4 9.4 vs NG2 8.1

Don't even make me bring up Too Human. 360 is a console of rushed filler games. Nothing ground breaking or anything we haven't already seen done before. Don't you think its sad how your console can only handle 5v5 TDM? While we will enjoy 60 player? Enjoy those nuts in your mouth.

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Rekyyli - 474 days 19 hours ago

LoL!

"8.1 actually and sad you need to go to a game released way before NG2."

Oh, sh1t know i´m really fvcked!

I would not be too proud if my console has only one good game and it´s been almost two years since launch. That´s fvcked up. And that Gears vs Resistance. All i have to say to you is: come back here when the reviews come in. Then you can put ur own nuts in your a$$ while u r shouting MS conspiracy and paid off reviews.

"MSG4 9.4 vs NG2 8.1"

If u want to see numbers go to the Metacritic and then check which console has more better games. Oh, it´s not PS3? How come? Failed pal.

But the saddest thing here is this: with ur fanboi attitude, you will miss many great games just because u r so full of hate. If you can´t see it for yourself, it´s really really sad. But it´s ur choice and i could care less. Only loser here is you. Epic fail.

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Xlll - 473 days 1 hour ago

@Rek
So sad a xbot in hiding. As for my statement it was to compare recent titles that went head to head. So your little post already went down in flames right there.

Which console has been out longest? and if you stop to check the amount of "good" games vs flops you can see the 360 follows in the trend Too human is continuing. 360 suffers from a LONG list of flops and cash grab games that aren't worth a rental.

PS3 has by far the best titles this year just like last year. Next Year won't be any different.

Please go back and look over those facts whenever you have free time from mailing your console around.

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TheMART at Xboxkings - 475 days 8 hours ago

DUde, if I may remind you, you started sending a PM to me first.

I guess you got bored by playing MGS4 BluRaymovie over and over again. The only game on or over 9 out of 10 average after the PS3 is allmost out 2 years now.

I'll respond exactly what I PM'd back

"hahaahahahaa

still defending a gimped system

It would suck if you have to replay all those games just to get your gamerpoints

Second, the best games doesn't even get them. COD4 dev said they wouldn't update.

PSN is and stay gimped as hell "

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LuHawk - 475 days 3 hours ago

Just Like Metal Queer 4 and B!tch Zone 2

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