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The Too Human Hate Machine

Xbox 360 Wire writes

"I really don't understand. Unfortunately, it seems the general populace does not share in my excitement and appreciation for Silicon Knights' latest release, "Too Human". Metacritic has an average review score just under 70, and I personally feel betrayed by an industry I once aspired to join. Too Human was, and is, one of the greatest and most involving entertainment experiences I have yet to witness in this lifetime"

That being said, I'd like to compare the title to another X360 exclusive RPG, "Mass Effect".
Bleem360 - contributor
Published: 484 days 17 hours ago | Article | Xbox 360
 
 

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Jamie Foxx - 484 days 17 hours ago
1 - TO BE BRUTALLY HONEST
welcome to what ps3 owners have had to put up with from the media since its release, how uncharted & MGS4 got some 8s ill never know (well i do know,biasness and fanboyismn which is tainting the gaming industry on a whole).

cant talk bout too human,never played it but when developers pour their heart into a game just for it to be shot down by a reviewer because their jealous its not on their console of choice seriously shows how deep fanboyism has come,its the cancer of gaming.look at some of the comments on N4G, its ridiclous when your totally blinded by fanboyism
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Bleem360 - 484 days 17 hours ago
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I really can't comment on Too Human - downloaded the demo on release but I've so many other great games to get through I havent even had time to try it out yet. Negative press has put me off, but it seems like one of those 'love it or hate it' type games.

I didn't particularly enjoy the Diablo series so I'm not holding out too much hope.
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Idonthatejustcreate - 484 days 15 hours ago
1.3 - Honestly is it so hard to understand that not everyone thinks Too human is the best thing ever?
Some may think it's great because they like the features of the game and the story. Some may think it's good but they think it felt lackluster. Some may think that it's ok but not for them. And some hate it because they can't get a grip on it.

Most people thought it was ok and what exactly is so wrong with that? They don't hate it when they rate it a 7. A 2 or 3 is understandable if given by someone that is hating on Too human but a 7? They are not hating on it they just don't like it.

Even more simplified. Compare MGS4 to Too Human... wait for it... done? Now you know why Too human got a 7.
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Montrealien - 484 days 15 hours ago
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''Honestly is it so hard to understand that not everyone thinks Too human is the best thing ever?''

nope
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joemayo76 - 484 days 14 hours ago
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I enjoyed too human and believe that too human is a game with great potential yet, potential DOESN'T make a game great, the end product does. And this is wear it slips a bit its not a bad game (far from it) I think its a slightly above average game, however to compare it Mass Effect (even with its flaws the ME end product still is far better than TooHuman IMO)? i don't think both games are in the same field

So i don't see the hate this writer is writing about, a Meta score of 7 (B-) is nothing to gloat about but at the same time its still far from a fail. Its being called as it is, except for those who totally write off this game as a fail, thats just a fanboyism most certainly
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Bleem360 - 484 days 13 hours ago
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@joemayo76

That's actually quite inacurate - the reviews are going against what was expected of Too Human.

The majority of us expected it to be receiving 90+ scores almost everywhere. Compare expectation with reality and that's where the fail comes from.

Put it this way, if Little Big Planet, Killzone 2 or even FF get scores averaging 7/10, that would be considered a fail.

Same applies here.
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Montrealien - 484 days 13 hours ago
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"The majority of us expected it to be receiving 90+ scores almost everywhere"

You should never ever expect anything, or else you will be disappointed 95% of the time. Just take a game for what it is, try it, and judge it for yourself.

"Put it this way, if Little Big Planet, Killzone 2 or even FF get scores averaging 7/10, that would be considered a fail. "

As long as I have fun with those games, there is no fail, just good games, and if I don't like them, then I won't try to convince the world those games are crap, that is ummm, very immature? Fighting for what is supposed to be an amazing game when it got 7's and is seen as a "fail" is open zone stuff imo. Any gamer in the gamer zone should understand that and be unbiased and unaffected by "hype" imho.

game on
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Tacki - 484 days 16 hours ago
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I don't really see how you can feel 'betrayed' by game review sites as its their job to give their opinion and take on games. I can understand not agreeing with them and maybe finding fault in their criticisms... but betrayed? My God, you're not sleeping with these sites. Well, perhaps some of you are... I don't know about any of your personal lives.

Seriously though, I don't see why so many seem to be so caught up with review scores. You can enjoy the game regardless of whether Emperorbob357 on some website enjoyed it equally. I understand that Too Human probably has garnered alot of hate and bashing because it's 'the thing to do'... but I think some in their love for a particular game can forget that maybe not everyone shares those same feelings. I've personally played the demo and I really couldn't get into the game. It's just not for me... but I know there's lots of loot lovers out there having a grand ole' time. That's the beauty of opinion... everyone's entitled to one.

In my opinion it is a very niche title and it does surprise me a bit that quite a few people don't seem to believe or perhaps achknowledge this. It doesn't make it a bad game... just not something that everyone's going to love. Just like many RPG's. Too Human is what it is... a love it or hate it game (for the most part). I know not everyone is this way... but it feels as though some of these writers feel they need justification for their purchase from other people or other sites. Gamers should just enjoy the games they love and not worry about what others think or say about it. Unless of course someone's spreading misinformation or something like that. There's always exceptions.
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Bleem360 - 484 days 16 hours ago
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If only the world was that simple dude - the important thing to remember is that reviews can make or break a games sales figures.

Too Human might be fantastic to a small group of people, but when the general opinion out there seems to be 'its broken' that's going to put a lot of people off paying £45 for it, some will even wait til it can be had for £20 in the bargain bins.

All this amounts to is lost sales for the developer/publisher and less likley we'll see the sequel anytime soon.

What ever way you look at it, a bad review can only be bad for a game. There's no escaping that.
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LeShin - 484 days 16 hours ago
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Maybe this should teach fanboys that reviews and review scores are just OPINIONS and nothing more. Just because someone didn't like it, it doesn't automatically mean you won't. If someone doesn't like the music you listen to, would you stop listening to it? If someone hates the your favorite movie, would you stop watching it? Reviewers gave GTA 4 a load of ten's, I picked it up on launch day and definitely did not agree with them and I traded it in after a time. Lair got slated by nearly every reviewer, but I really enjoyed it.

You have a mind of your own people, use it. Rent a game you're not sure about and if you don't like it, don't buy it.

For the people that only buy games that get a 9 or 10, man I pity you as your game collection must be rerally small and probably filled with shooters :)
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Montrealien - 484 days 13 hours ago
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"If only the world was that simple dude - the important thing to remember is that reviews can make or break a games sales figures."

many poorly rated games have sold very well. Like movies, since when are critically acclaimed movies box office blockbusters? It does happens, but not all the time. You did specify that it "can" make or brake a game's sales figures though, and that is the important thing to remember.
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TOO PAWNED - 484 days 16 hours ago
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This is really going out of the bounds .... who cares if game suck, cant we move on or should we be forced to love it?! Really this is to much, every single day there is at least 3+ articles about 2 Human and why it sucks or doesn't suck, what Dennis thinks, those homosexuals from x play, etc. Enough is enough!
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Montrealien - 484 days 15 hours ago
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said the multiple account person with an account created specifically to mock the game....oh the irony.
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Atomic - 484 days 16 hours ago
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Or maybe the game is really mediocre and Too Human defenders believe in some kind of conspiracy against the game and Dyack.
this game would have gotten the same criticism regardless of the console that it's tied to.
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strotee - 484 days 16 hours ago
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At first: "OK, so it got average scores, some 70's, 80's, and even a 93 from a Greek magazine that 3 people have heard about, not a bad game. Good job MS."

(insert 20 odd whiny interviews from Denis)

Then: "I feel bad for the guy, he spent a lot of time with the game, was practically married to the concept for 10 years only to end up with people dissing it."

(insert Kevin outburst & never-ending whining from Denis/websites)

Finally: "OMG, STFU, I hate this game with a passion and glad it's not all that it was cracked up to be. I'll go postal if I hear the words 'Too Human' ever again."
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Firstkn1ghT - 484 days 15 hours ago
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For the most part the reviews have been positive. A lot of complaints on the camera but a few positive reviews commented on the camera saying that it's different and takes time to get used to and after awhile the camera works flawlessly. I know when I first started playing I thought the game sucked because of the camera and got frustrated. Gave it a few more tries and it started to work for me. And now I can take out anybody with ease without the camera giving me problems. The overall average is about a 73% right now but I would give it a 9 because it's just so much fun with a great cyber norse story and different but accurate gameplay. The death scenes are crap tho'. It seems that most of the negative reviews are people that didn't get used too the different control/camera while the positive reviews didn't mind it.
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Official Blue - 484 days 15 hours ago
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Wow people need to calm down so what if too human is a heap of crap!? Plus why would you compare a great RPG to a crap one?
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Jenzo - 484 days 15 hours ago
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In my opinion Mass Effect is in another league than Too Human. Where I find Mass Effect to be the best rpg released this generation(followed by Oblivion), Too Human is nothing more than 6-7/10. 7 if you like the genre, otherwise a 6.
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SL1M DADDY - 484 days 15 hours ago
9 - Having owned all three consoles I can safely say...
Welcome, to what the media has been doing to the PS3 for months now. Get off your high horse and get over it. Who cares what the media says about the game you love and play on. I have seen the media bash games for the PS3 that I actually enjoyed, and many of those games scored much lower on average. As for Too Human, I have played it and I hated it.
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KeiulZen - 484 days 13 hours ago
9.1 - Agreed
as people have been saying, the PS3 and alot of its best games have received flack from gaming critics and the community for the past 2 years. 360 gets a game that was supposed to be great and yet it turned out unpolished and really leaves a bland taste after playing.

Its not a conspiracy sadly, its just truth. Even when Famitsu said the same thing about the game (bad camera, controls need tweaking), people still scream conspiracy. It's not a conspiracy (lol Welcome to the NHK), it's just the game needs some work on it. Unfortunately, the work that's need on it is essential for drawing the player into the game and the game's world.

That's why all the hate on it...well not hate, rather criticism.
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Cherchez La Ghost - 484 days 13 hours ago
10 - Well..,
Level 27 at 15 hrs. of gameplay. I have no complaints.
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Lord Vader - 484 days 13 hours ago
10.1 -
Bubbles for you.

Level 40 Champion & Level 31 Defender, 45 hours, played through twice as 2 different characters.

Like you, I have no complaints = loving co-op !
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Bleem360 - 484 days 13 hours ago
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You guys have too much time on your hands :)
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PimpHandStrong - 484 days 11 hours ago
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Metacritic has an average review score just under 70, and I personally feel betrayed by an industry I once aspired to join.

thats the problem
he feels betrayed

You feel your game deserves better scores but like most ppl on this site metric doesnt lie. It takes the average of many reviews.

on metric anything over a 7 is good. On N4G we have ppl that think a game under 8 is crap!

losers

anything under a 7 is not good

tough sh!t

it wont be the last game that got some hype and sh!ts all over its self

deal with it

its over

move on
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Enigma_2099 - 484 days 10 hours ago
12 - i just finished reading an article bashing a SEGA PS3 exclsive import... as in "not even over here in the US..."
Tell the writer of this article to shut the **** up.
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slugg - 484 days 7 hours ago
13 - What it comes down to...
Is that people want/expect reviews to line up with what they personally feel about a game/movie/CD etc. When they don't, they think something is wrong with either the review or their take on the game. If you like a game, play it. A lot of people hate on Halo 3, but it was everything and more than what I expected and one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. Along the same lines, I don't get the whole MGS4 thing. Too many cutscenes, it seems like the game is in black and white there is so much grey in it, etc.-- but these are things that I don't like about the game. Does that mean that because I don't get it, MGS4 sucks? No. Does the fact that MGS4 has gotten great reviews mean I should like it? No. The point of the article is basically this "negative reviews can affect sales of a game I personally like." Perhaps. But it seems like everyone on my freinds list is playing Too Human, so I think it is still going to sell okay. The biggest underlying, and unspoken, reason for articles like this is simply that people who enjoy Too Human are worried it won't sell enough for the next two parts of the trilogy to be released.
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rrjim1 - 483 days 15 hours ago
14 - Great Game!
I just finished my first time threw and really enjoyed TH. If this is your type of game at least rent it. You won't regret it, and I'll bet you will end up purchasing it!!
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