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Rockstar Under Intense GTA IV Pressure

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"Was GTA IV the most over-hyped game of all time? Quite possibly, and you would think that with such great expectations would come immense pressure to perform. Debate rages as to whether GTA IV was all it was made out to be, and as such the pressure hasn't been released following the game's release, but actually increased. Indeed, in a sign o' the times, there is more pressure on GTA IV's DLC than there is on the game itself.

In fact, these Xbox 360 exclusive 'episodes' could be the most under-pressure pieces of game software to have ever existed."
SlappingOysters - contributor
Published: 482 days 9 hours ago | Article | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360 | PC
 
 

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xhi4 - 482 days 9 hours ago
1 - i geuss
I mean it was unbelievably over hyped......but so was Halo 3, so was Lair.

But its still a bloody good game, just no where near as revolutionary as its predecessors, just more of the same just in high def, that's what pissed everybody off.

Its not Rockstars fault entirely, it's also the media's fault.

The gaming press hyped this b1tch up sooo much it was unbelievable, does anybody remember the SCRAPS of information with even a sentence on GTA IV people would go crazy, hell I went crazy, the way they described the game made it sound like it would solve world poverty and be the only game you'd need or even want for years.

But that was such a load of sh1t, but nevertheless, its one damn good game, just more of the same, and more of the same was not what we wanted or remotely expected, we expected heaven on a disc.....oops.

**im gonna be cheap and ask for a bubble, Its been a year and I haven't been able to get past 8 bubbles =( lol**
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darkpower - 482 days 8 hours ago
1.1 -
I don't disagree with you in the notion that it was overhyped. I only will disagree with you on two points:

1. I think it was partly Rockstar's fault for not putting in more things that gave GTA it's own flare for all those years. In short, they took out too much of what brought the GTA franchise to the dance. Give any reason you find appropriate as to why that happened (to which there will be, or already are, many), but that is the bottom line of it all.
2. I don't think too many people think that GTA4 was a horrible game. You'll never please EVERYONE with anything.

I do think that 360 fanboys are in a hurry to defend the game because they get two exclusive pieces of episodic content, when even 360 owners (and even some 360 fanboys, if that is a sign of the Twilight Zone) are not finding the game as exciting as they think it should've been. And from what Rockstar DID say about the DLC episodes, something tells me THIS will be overhyped by everyone, as well (it already IS by many).

Like I said, it's time for the overhyping people and the speculators and the "PS3 owners will never see this or anything like this" people to be quiet (for once) and just let Rockstar and ONLY Rockstar tell us what is in this DLC. They've said countless times what it would possibly contain, who will get it, what else they could be making, and that both systems will be getting major DLC for the game. Yet people ignore that because they cannot get off their soapboxes or shut up for five minutes to just listen to what they are saying, because they are the ones making the game and should know what they are putting into this thing.

Seriously, when Barrera said what he said in that Playstation mag, EVERYONE was reaching for ways to discredit the mag's cred because he said it was likely the PS3 version would have DLC (or EC, whatever term you want to use for the type of thing MS is getting), and all they could come up with is that the mag didn't use any direct quotes from him to come up with that conclusion (which is the lamest excuse to discredit something that I've ever heard of), especially when they never discredited anything that was said by him in that way any other time. Rockstar told us that Niko would talk to a random person and those would start some mission once the episodes came into effect, yet we have people STILL speculating that a new city or island will be unlocked once the EC is installed (remember that in San Andreas, you had a mission that took you to Liberty City, but it was for one mission, and you weren't even allowed to legitimately explore LC in that one). We have all these articles saying "oh, what could it be, how big will it be" when we should already HAVE the idea. How hard is this to comprehend? I've personally have never seen so much reaching, so much speculating, so much arguing about ANY aspect of a game or its contents in my LIFE than I have about GTA4 and this DLC sh!t. Seriously, I'm hoping this DLC comes out ASAP so people will finally shut up about it and stop making false claims about anything DLC related.

As for your bubbles, I'll give you one. So...PLEASE give ME one!
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bohemian 23 - 482 days 4 hours ago
1.2 -
I don't see why people are so upset about GTAIV or Halo 3. You know what your getting with each franchise and in my opinion they both delivered. Most people that complain about Halo don't use Forge, screenshots, or replay and to me those are huge parts of the fun. The community aspects of Halo through bungie.net are amazing. The stat tracking and ease of getting user created content is also a bonus. The problem is half the people complain about these games being the same as the old ones but if they changed too many things people will complain it's not the same game. I won't argue that they were overhyped but that was fans just as much as the media and it's only going to get worse in the future. You just have to cut through the bs and judge for yourself. Have a wonderful weekend. See you in Halo 3
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Masta_fro - 482 days 3 hours ago
1.3 - yea...
seriously though, they're definitely not "the most under-pressure pieces of game software to have ever existed."

Common guys, be reasonable now...most gamers have moved on, and those who still play have just recently bought the game or they really liked it.

Besides, the dl content is xbox 360 exclusive...

I can see games like God of war 3, Gears of war 2, Killzone 2, (yeah definetly KZ2) Final Fantasy 13 ect...being under way more pressure than this download content.

Games which are just massively expected to perform...
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chaosatom - 482 days 1 hour ago
1.4 - As much as I like to agree, I am still pissed off at Rockstar.
because GTAIV was two steps back from SAN ANDREAS.

Less Weapons.
Too convoluted story plots.
little varied clothing option.
little varied missions.
no jetback
not being able to buy houses.
little side missions that have no meaning.
the Phone was really annoying.
Didn't get to use a lot of cover.
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Vistrix - 482 days 8 hours ago
2 -
Is it possible to ban the source gameplayer from N4G?

Im sick of seeing poorly written articles.
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xhi4 - 482 days 8 hours ago
2.1 - personally,
i like a lot of their articles (most not all)

they pose very interesting questions with valid points and outline very compelling arguments that really make me think long and hard

some of their articles are rubbish, but only a few, like all other sites.

But gameplayer writes a lot of essay type articles that really delve deep into matters concerning the gaming community that I think are interesting and stimulates healthy argument.
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Redlight - 482 days 6 hours ago
3 -
I think Gameplayer is prone to flame-bait articles written in a provocative style. They try to disguise their stories as considered opinion pieces, but there's rarely any real insight, just unfounded assertions.
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SlappingOysters - 482 days 6 hours ago
3.1 - I think
a lot of N4g people read the headline (which, as is the nature of a headline, is designed to gain your interest) and never read the article and just take it the wrong way.

I also think that gameplayer articles assume you are intelligent and expect you to be able to approach it without an automatic assumption that they are bias - which of course rules out a fair chunck of n4g.

All I see is two people calling a site lame, but showing no opinion at all as to why you think the GTA IV DLC isn't under pressure... which I assume is what you two must beleive

edit: this was a general post, didn't mean to reply specifically to you.
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kevnb - 482 days 6 hours ago
4 - GTAIV was awesome
I found it much better than the last few GTA games...
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Tony Scarboni - 482 days 6 hours ago
5 - Personally, I think it was the 360's fault
Initially this game was delayed because of the difficulty devevloping for the PS3. Ultimately though, it was the 360 that caused this game to be delayed so much because they have to develope a way to compress the data even further to make it fit on a 7.5gb dvd9(the 1.5gb is for software protection).

GTA:SA was on a DVD9 to, but GTA4 had less content because it needed more space for the advanced game engines. I just find it ironic that if MS actually supported Hi-Def they wouldn't be in this predicament. They wouldn't need to blow 50million for DLC. That's not even counting the money they will lose on future titles needing extra discs.

If MS would have incorporated a HiDef drive into the 360 that would have been the deathnail of the PS3. Now PS3 will overtake them in '09.
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socomnick - 482 days 5 hours ago
5.1 -
lol orly
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jojo319 - 482 days 4 hours ago
5.2 - overtake in 09?
unlikely
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Sitdown - 482 days 4 hours ago
5.3 - @Tony
You could have just saved time and energy and said "I hate Microsoft". Come on now...the article is talking about the belief that GTA did not live up to the hype. The hype was being created by the media based on what they played and seen......not so much what they wanted in the game. The reality is.......once again gets hyped, it gets to the point where expectation is so far out there...that no matter what it does, people will be disappointed. Besides, if Microsoft did have the extra space...they most likely would have paid for the extra dlc content.why? Because they want the extra content to make their package seem more appealing than the ps3 version. DLC is not just because it will not fit on the disc....look a COD4 then the game of the year editions of it.
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Reibooi - 482 days 4 hours ago
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GTA IV was massively over hyped. People gave the game perfect scores left and right when I don't think it deserved it one bit. I got the game and played for about 3hrs and then got fed up and brought it back. I have heard others as well mention they only thought the game deserved something along the lines of a 8.5 or 9.0 not the perfect scores it was getting.
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N2NOther - 482 days 4 hours ago
6.1 -
So the people that actually played the entire game gave it a perfect score but you, who only played it for a few hours, says it doesn't deserve those score...Yeah, that makes sense.

And if you bothered to read any of the reviews you'd know that NO ONE said the game was perfect but rather such an excellent experience that it earned a 10.

I didn't score the game a 10/10 but that's not to say the game didn't affect each respective reviewer that way. It's damn close to a 10 in my eyes, but there are a few nagging issues that I didn't like that brought it to a 9/10 for me. But I actually played the entire game and this is based on my own subjectivity.
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Enigma_2099 - 482 days 1 hour ago
7 - ....YOU PEOPLE ACT LIKE IT WAS R* THEMSELVES THAT DID THE OVERHYPING!!!
When it was basically the media outlets, gaming sites, AND MICROSOFT TOOTING THEIR OWN HORN OVER THE EXCLUSIVE 360 CONTENT!!! Hell, remember the infamous "tattoo?"

Rockstar's only fault is MAKING the game... they didn't hype it into the stratosphere... they set out to make a next gen GTA, and succeeded.

Someone from the "Saint's camp" submitted this, didn't they?
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N4M3L355 - 481 days 19 hours ago
7.1 - Ummm....
R* did overhype the game. Never once did they show the gameplay outside of the media. Yeah, they showed us trailers, but it's really not enough. Look at how much info/trailers/pics we get on other great games. I'm not placing all the blame on R*, but you have to admit they quietly hyped this game.
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Enigma_2099 - 481 days 16 hours ago
7.2 - When?
So they showed a couple of TV spots, a countdown, and some flash sites... in your opinion, that's overdoing it? And you say yourself that it wasn't enough... so more game footage/screens/etc=less hyping? I'm gonna sit down for this one. You're gonna explain that... right?

And be honest with yourself... most of REAL overhyping of the game was from the fallout of the "Hot Coffee" mess.
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Morgue - 482 days 1 hour ago
8 - 8 out 10
I think I'm at 52% on GTA IV and i quit playing it, it's boring and the story isn't all that great. What I do give Rockstar credit for is creating this huge city too move and interact in other than that, it's nothing special.
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Reibooi - 482 days 1 hour ago
9 -
@N2NOther

Its like TV you don't get into a TV show because of a crappy episode you get into a show because it has awesome episodes and keeps you interested. The first 3-5hrs of GTA IV is basically a Taxi sim and that's BS You don't play GTA for a damn Taxi sim. If the entire game isn't awesome there is no reason it should get a perfect score.
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DaTruth - 481 days 20 hours ago
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Episodic content gives the impression that it's another story or whatnot. If there was one place GTA4 shined it was in the story. But people don't really buy GTA games for the story, that is the reason why there is a hundred used copies at your local EB. So there is absolutely no way that this won't flop unless they add what made the others good, which will also be on PS3 because it does not qualify as episodic content.
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N4M3L355 - 481 days 19 hours ago
11 - Take a note from Criterion
The DLC (whether exclusive or not) should be free. I love DLC, but I think a lot of these devs are going about it in the wrong way.
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Allowen - 481 days 12 hours ago
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I own a PS3 and I actualy did not like THAT much GTA4 and neither MGS4.For me they are both just average games,too much hype about then from almost all magazines.I expected better,I got disapointed.
Both are indead interesting and I insist that they are no way near as cool as true possible candidates for "game of the year" games that will be launching this fall.
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Genaral Leo - 481 days 10 hours ago
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Never been a fan of the series, so i can't say it was bad.
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