Too Human Review - XboxOZ360 Gamer

XboxOZ360 - 483 days 23 hours ago

As the author said, he didn't like the demo and had mixed feelings about it, but things did change when he played through the retail code fo the game.

So perhaps giving the game a try via rental might have you look at it differently.

You DID read the review - didn't you ???

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sticky_date - 483 days 23 hours ago

w00t - absurd analogies ftw! Seriously though, Clown = Circus. As in, Media Circus? As in, hype machine? Just in case you didn't get it the first time :)

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cito35th - 483 days 19 hours ago

when a 360 fanboy site like this one rates a "highly anticipated" game like too human a very low score is when you know that the game is HORRIBLE .... live with it

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Superfragilistic - 483 days 22 hours ago

It's not AAA, but it's a lot of damn fun and the score above seems about right to me. If you were a Diablo, WoW or dungeon crawling fan in general I'd highly recommend it.

I'll pass 50hrs, maybe even 100hrs on this title without much effort which IMO says a hell of a lot about this title's enjoyable replayablity compared to many "15hrs and it's over" type games. It'll keep me busy until LBP and Fable 2 come knocking that's for sure! :)

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Superfragilistic - 483 days 23 hours ago

You can do Play Asia or buy some cheapies from EB's 2 for 1 preowned sale and exploit GAME's friendlier exclusion list. Cost me about $45. :)

And the game is much better than some (Gamespot, 1Up) would lead you to believe, unless you feel that personal feelings about Denis Dyack, development times and NeoGaf should factor into review scores! :P

It's no doubt buggy and the graphics are occasionally questionable, but the core gameplay, looting and co-op are a lot of fun... not perfect, but fun. In fact I've spent more hours replaying Too Human than I did completing GTAIV's story and realising there wasn't much else! ;)

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Immortal Kaim - 483 days 23 hours ago

Thanks for the tips Super. I might just have to pick it up then, I am actually quite fond of Loot games.

Cheers

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XboxOZ360 - 483 days 22 hours ago

Denis Dyack didn't do himself any favours by throwing the tantrum he did on several forums, and getting himself banned from NeoGAF. People then see the developer having a hissy-fit and judge the game based on that, not the game based on the finished code and how it plays, or doesn't play.

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Superfragilistic - 483 days 22 hours ago

I thought him being banned from NeoGaf actually demonstrated exactly what he had accused NeoGaf of and ironically he became the monster that he hunted on those forums.

In fact I can't help but think that maybe Dyack secretly thinks he's Baldur killing all the trolls in the NeoGaf dungeons! lol

Seriously though, I think the NeoGaf incident had much more effect on reviewer's simply for the fact that many reviewer's are part of that community, and Dyack by association attacked them all. The earlier 1up incident and other run ins clearly didn't help either.

Dyack should really take a leaf out of Peter Moore's book on pirates and learn that going after and attacking your consumer base to prove a point is not exactly the best option for commercial (and critical) success.

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titntin - 483 days 15 hours ago

I think your wromg to think Dyaks pompous attitude is responsable for the reviews this game has got.

It's got very patchy reviews because its a very patchy game! Anyone who has spent quality time with the finished product knows that it is far from the 'complete article'. Your final overall feeling is pretty much based on how much the level-up loot collecting pull grabs you. For some people its enough to make it an enjoyable experience, and I just about count myself as one of these!

It's a shame really. Though I will no doubt get many hours of entertainment from it, you can't help but imagine just how good it could have been, and Dyaks insistance that any critiscm is completely unfounded leads me to think that the same issues that hold this back from greatness, will still be present in the sequals.

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Immortal Kaim - 483 days 23 hours ago

If I hadn't played the demo for a considerable amount of time and didn't unlock any of the other characters, what would be a good character to choose for my first playthrough. Im gonna go order it now.

Thanks in advance for the help

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silverchode - 483 days 22 hours ago

how long did your first run thru take?

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Superfragilistic - 483 days 22 hours ago

I'd recommend a Champion as he's the most balanced and will give you an opportunity to learn all the different play styles (eg. heavy melee, combo melee, ballistics, spells, air combat). Many people try the Berserker first but the second level will put them into a state of shock as it ramps the difficulty up and he doesn't have the hit points for a novice gamer to succeed without dying every 2 minutes.

First playthrough took me 15hrs, 15deaths and I finished at Lvl30 with most of the secrets found. I'm now up to 30hrs and at Lvl40 odd and am playing a lot of co-op and drop in drop out dungeons (you don't have to replay campaign from beginning to end). The game gets incredibly hard as it levels with you and randomly generates enemy types, enemy positions, loot and some environments, making your customised gear, your skill choices and your combat mastery the crucial difference.

The Commando is a lot of fun for those who are looking for a 3D version of Geometry Wars, but make sure you keep a hammer to do radius juggles that clear off hordes that get too close. ;)

Personally I'm looking forward to replaying as the Bioengineer for his healing abilities, powerful spells and co-op greatness. :P

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GiantEnemyCrab - 483 days 22 hours ago

Immortal: Read what Superfrag typed. I agree with the Champion being a good balanced character to start with.

Silver: I am right about 14.5 hours.

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Immortal Kaim - 483 days 22 hours ago

Thanks Super and Crab. Im actually getting more interested the more I hear. Champion it is :)

Cheers.

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edonus - 483 days 19 hours ago

I say go for the Commando. Its a little of a learning curve because you have to get used to the aiming system which once you do is really tight. It takes discipline to not want to just run up in the mix and start jugglin but when are at a distance taking out 20-30 enemies with a few well placed grnades and the ones that finally get you are so low on energy you just go psycho on them. That was my first play throuh now I want a Bio engineer.

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XboxOZ360 - 483 days 22 hours ago

Ahh - a clarvoiant eh . . so you KNOW what the author is thinking and what he means . . you should get a job in a circus as well . .

Seriously, it's obvious he's referring to circus and clown . .dahh . .

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sticky_date - 483 days 22 hours ago

Meh - whatev's. LOL

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XboxOZ360 - 483 days 15 hours ago

Mine has all the latest mate, shame you don't live around here. (Newtown - sydney) currently they have approx 75 360 titles for rent . . . which is a solid line up.

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XboxOZ360 - 483 days ago

I think with the feedback they have been getting, one would "presume" they would look at that and devise a better way. While it may become easier as you get used to it, a control system should be immediately usable for a gamer when starting any new game.

One of the selling points of the 360 earlier on was the claim that you could program the controller to your own style and it would remember it based on the genre' and always use that system by default.

In real fact, it does do that, but only to a very limited degree, and does not override any system that may come with other games. WHich is a shame.

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