How long can Microsoft keep charging for Xbox Live

CaptainHowdy - 517 days 4 hours ago

cease and desist. But eventually it needs to be free. and compensate the current subscribers with microsoft points

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vitz3 - 517 days 4 hours ago

Vote with your wallets people. I canned my Xbox Live months ago and sold my console two weeks ago.

Online P2P gaming should be free.

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JBaby343 - 517 days 3 hours ago

Wildarms is right. As long as people pay for it they will charge for it simple as that.

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Ace Killa 08 - 517 days 3 hours ago

it be great to have it free, but why should we have it for free? we bought the console and games and now we being greedy into wanting it for free. member this free stuff are usually the bad quality so free would be great, if i get the same service, if not i would pay to keep the service i get with xbox live

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FantasyStar - 517 days 2 hours ago

I agree with you there when concerning the 'greedy consumer'. However I disagree about Microsoft charging for Live is because Online Gaming was always free. Even though it's just $5 a month, being charged to play online is wrong. That's the principle.

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superaktieboy - 517 days ago

meh you're right, MS will only make it free ones no1 or not many people pay for it, pretty much like GFW Live

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wallace1000 - 516 days 21 hours ago

Forever, because it is a fantastic service and until another service comes along that is better in some shape or form and i can rock Halo 3 on it, i am going to pay the $50 a year. Considering lots of the other trash i have to pay good money for, xbox live is a fantastic deal.

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kwicksandz - 516 days 21 hours ago

When the competition matches LIVES features for free.

So they will probably keep charging forever =)

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Silver360 - 516 days 21 hours ago

the severs that tie everything together? Market place downloads match making ignoring people yearly improvements a equal experience over all games?

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solidt12 - 516 days 9 hours ago

Why not just play games on the PC with a 360 controller and get LIVE for free? Mass Effect, Gears, Lost Planet ect. allhave gone on PC, and so will Gears 2

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Tomdc - 516 days 5 hours ago

xbox live is better than PSN but there aint as much in it as there used to be...

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Party Boy - 517 days 4 hours ago

What features does Live have over PSN that make it worth $50.00 a year? In-game messaging? A video service? Dedicated servers? Achievements? In-game music? Lag-free servers?

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SL1M DADDY - 517 days 4 hours ago

It's all a matter of opinion and the author here thinks that the Live experience is better than PSN or Nintendo. I on the other hand find that the value of the PSN is awesome and though it is free, I can still play online. As long as I can play online I am happy and the PSN does that for free. All the bells and whistles are nice but they are not what playing online is all about. Maybe MS could charge for all the extras and allow the online gaming to be free...

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KRUSSIDULL - 517 days 4 hours ago

Xbox Live is already free but you have to pay a small fee if you want to play Online and use some extra features.

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Steven Colbert - 517 days 3 hours ago

@Party Boy You are incorrect in your post right there.PSN does have dedicated servers for games like rsistance and warhawk.The "lag-free" comment was incorrect.Games like Gears,Halo 3,and Call of Duty 4 are known for having lag problems.Achievements are offline,you never had to pay for that in the first place.The video service of PSN and Live are comparable.The netflix will be a turning point but only if you have a netflix subscription.

Other than that,the Live service is just fine.

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killax3563 - 517 days 2 hours ago

With Netflix you can only stream 10,000 movies. That may seem like a lot but Netflix has 100,000 movies in its catalog.

Thus you can only stream 10% of available movies. and the 10% aint going to change much b/c movie studio get such a meager cut.

beleive me, streaming netflix aint going to get much more than 10% of the catalog b/c movie studios control lincecing. if movie studios don't let netflix stream the other 90% of movies, aint going to happen.

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Steven Colbert - 517 days 2 hours ago

@killax I did not realize the Netflix deal was short.Bubbles for your factfinding

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metalhead - 516 days 9 hours ago

is still dont like having to pay yearly to buy downloadable content and play online. I can do that for free everywhere else and I like that. Live is good but not $50 a year good

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ReBurn - 517 days 2 hours ago

And that's really the heart of the matter, isn't it? You go where you have the most fun. There are more games in the 360 catalog and more people playing online, so for some people it is just worth it to be where their friends are.

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The Wood - 516 days 23 hours ago

mine are on psn and i wouldnt pay for live even if i had an xbox. So the conversion from live to psn is easier than psn to live (gold)

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solidt12 - 516 days 8 hours ago

Your logic is that there are more games on 360 Live so users should pay. I don't agree. Then Why is Live Free on the PC. There are way more game available on the PC vs the 360.

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sretlaw - 516 days 21 hours ago

Yea, MS won't give anything free, everyone knows that. I would never pay for it, sorry...You don't see me paying a monthly charge for Steam, and I think their service rocks. Games I've bought many years ago are still connected to my steam account, always and with no charge. You've already payed for an overpriced console, why the F would you pay more for a service that could easily be done for free?

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Terry Tate - 517 days 4 hours ago

You dont get billions of dollars in the bank by giving stuff away. ;) They will drag it out as long as possible, then find another way to charge.
The price is at an interesting point. Its $50.00 for a year (here in the states). Its like someone there at Microsoft came up with a price that people may complain a little about but wouldn't prevent them from spending. I bet they researched it and found the $60.00 was too much.
Ultimately, when you do the math though, $50.00 a year comes out to something like $4.16 a month. As long as the service continues to be good, and better than the competitors services, I will contine to assist in filling their already bulging pockets.

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Party Boy - 517 days 4 hours ago

Yet. Soon PSN will rival and surpass Live. You'll probably still be trying to justify your subscription.

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kinggeoff - 517 days 2 hours ago

and that would be because of....home?

There isn't much on the horizon that we've heard from Sony that will specifically boost the online experience. The Videos have been INSANELY slow to get off the ground, many downloads seem miscategorized or misplaced...it's still very rough around the edges, and while the PSN strives forward, so does LIVE. It's not like MS will just sit there and not commit to any further upgrades

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mistertwoturbo - 516 days 8 hours ago

"It's not like MS will just sit there and not commit to any further upgrades "

Serious question, no fanboyism here.

But what sort of features have MS implemented that has changed since launch?

I have a 360, but I do not have XBL. I use the $50 to buy a game instead =)

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Close_Second - 517 days 2 hours ago

...that both PSN and XBL lag. This is especially true for a game like Battlefield: Bad Company as EA has yet to release servers for hosting games in this part of the world...nor are they likely to either.

I get sick of people saying that there is no lag on PSN cause there is depending on where you live in the world.

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DJ - 517 days 3 hours ago

bolster their range of titles with Trophy Support and match a few more Xbox Live features before PSN achieves the same value. Both services work almost identically though, so I doubt either company would adopt each other's server structure.

I wonder what kind of hardware Sony is using for their PSN servers though.

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Qdog - 517 days 2 hours ago

Though it's not official, I'm relatively certain that they use one of two types of OS based servers, either Mac PPC based, or Cell SDK based, either way, they did NOT skimp, when it comes to server quality. I have Never had an online game lag, and I use roadrunner broadband(4mb/s DS, 2.5mb/s US),as I have for a long time, but even when I had Sprint DSL, I NEVER had a problem playing online...You know it's funny, I never see a lack of quality, ingenuity, or programming prowess, when it comes to SONY's in-house Developers. I only experience that from third parties (except Konami).. I have always been very happy with the PS3's Java based, XMB, as well as it's features, that I will continue to enjoy, as a media center, a gaming beast, a social networking tool, as well as a Hi-def Blu-Ray player...Keep downloading those Microsoft formatted movies from live(H264 uses a max bit rate of 4mb/s video and audio), so the clarity that you get from Blu-ray's max of 30mb/s will never be experienced. I never had to pay for it's future-proofing and garanteed quality hardware, that was free.

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DJ - 517 days 1 hour ago

But that's due to it being P2P (some games run perfect, and some have people that are probably on 128 kbps connections). All my other online titles work perfectly fine, and I suspect it's because they use Sony's internal server structure.

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Arsenic13 - 516 days 5 hours ago

Poor Angelitos.
Making another account to spread more of retardation?

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Pain - 516 days 5 hours ago

well since Xboxer's are Brain dead crack babies forever i guess...

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Arsenic13 - 516 days 2 hours ago

You kind of fanboys just reinforce the stereotype that PS3 fanboys are pathetic.
I say "Fanboy" because a normal person with PS3 wont spend all day talking sh*t about an Xbox, they just wont buy one.

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Leathersoup - 517 days 4 hours ago

Actually I think that's the reason that the PS3 is so expensive ;) If I don't use live I don't have to pay for it, but Sony people have to pay for it upfront whether they want to use online or not.

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Leathersoup - 517 days 3 hours ago

I was simply looking at the same argument from the other side.

If you're going to use every single option available on the PS3 every time you use it then yes it is the better deal. Admitted fully.

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Snukadaman - 517 days 2 hours ago

hows those MGO sessions going?

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xhairs9 - 516 days 6 hours ago

MGO sessions are good, are you wondering because you don't have the game?

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syanara - 516 days 6 hours ago

yes but it is deffinitly good to have those features on the ps3 right away even though you may not use them its very useful to have them for instance say you go on a trip and u bring ur playstation well the hotel has wireless internet only and the ps3 has wi-fi built in so your all good but if u don't have the wireless adapter for XBL then you need to go out and buy it and its worse if there isnt a store around that has it.

another thing that is similar too is netflix on xbl if u don't want to waatch movies that often but ever once in a while you do on xbl u need to subscribe to the service and your paying money for times u arent using it where as on PSN movie service u can pick and choose when u want to get a movie. each service has their ups and downs but bascially thats what it comes down to.

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xhairs9 - 516 days 6 hours ago

great post syanara!! boobies (bubbles)

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Jandre02 - 516 days 6 hours ago

Bots are so in to this console war and hating on Sony/trying to justify their purchase they're not even seeing that they paying money for things that many offer for free.

iTunes, PSN, AIM, etc.

All you are doing is paying Microsoft to be able to download their movies(which they make money off of) and use features that come with the game(that you pay them for.)

Lets say you are a more casual gamer and play only Halo once a week. That means you are paying around $1.15 for every day you play Halo with your friends. Why is that necessary? There are no dedicated servers, and they aren't delivering the game to your house. Thats ridiculous.

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Isaac - 517 days 4 hours ago

"i love it how the open zone is always full of negative fanboys who dont have anything intelligent to say. hmm i guess someone that has 2 bubbles is a bit of a give away of their intelligence or lack thereof."

Someone that measures intelligence in terms of bubbles can hardly be called smart either.

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Microsoft_Spokesman - 517 days 4 hours ago

KLEPTO is a homo.

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fafoon - 517 days 3 hours ago

Your a BOT
That means your devoid of all intelligence
Plus you have absolutely no sense of humor
Why would you
you own a Xbox
you pay for somthing that down the road you get for free
that aint intelligent
now if your oh so intelligent self wants a good intelligent dicussion i suggest the
Gamer zone
That way

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You will find all the intelligent Xbox owners in there that cant handle the truth
just like yourself

Bye Dumbass

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fafoon - 517 days 3 hours ago

The Agree's
And Disagree's
say it all

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KLEPTOMANIAC - 516 days 20 hours ago

keep it coming guys, u are entertaining me. i think reading and understanding my comments properly is required before trying to act all tough and defensive. to Isaac, i do not measure intelligence in the form of bubbles? its just an indicator seeing people with no bubbles have had them removed by writing comments of bad quality have they not? just a clue not proof but then again your 3 bubbles works with the theory so i dunno? hahaha just messin with ya
oh and by the way fafoon u buffoon i only own a ps3 and a wii so i dont know what u are talking about? ur views on xbox are quite fangirlish so i didnt expect anything constructive from you.
ahh what a fun day!

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syanara - 516 days 6 hours ago

let me get this right kleptomaniac u like to watch fanboys from both consoles have console wars with nothing intellegent to say? so basically your insulting the intellegence of many of the people here? well sure some might have a few screws loose but I don't go and insult them like that? I don't like to start flame wars either.

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Thoas - 517 days 4 hours ago

Stop frontin like you have a PS3. Your name should be PoserFlakes instead.

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Microsoft_Spokesman - 517 days 4 hours ago

10 minutes to get into a game?

PSN is faster and has less lag than the P2P xbox live.

EDIT: @giantenemyturd: No I didn't hit a nerve cause we are on the internet, there are alot of retards everywhere online. Have you ever played CoD4 on live? It takes like 5 minutes or more just to find a game, while on PSN it is like 30 seconds. What does that tell you about live?

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GiantEnemyCrab - 517 days 4 hours ago

haha I think you hit a nerve. Microsoft Spokesman you do know that more games on PSN are P2P than dedicated servers? You have like 3 or 4 dedicated games and the rest are using P2P. XBL also has some dedicated servers in games like Frontlines Fuel of War.

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juuken - 517 days 3 hours ago

"damn.. like always it took 10 minutes for me to enter a game@ PSN.. i prefer to pay some euros to get a better service."

And either something is wrong with your bloody connection or it's just plain slow. I've heard people say that they have little to no problems playing online.

"You have a trophy system which needs NO req. of implementation to games. So a 50% working sh!t which will get forgotten after a year."

You don't know sh*t. Sony left it up to developers to implement the trophy system ya jackass.

"HOME, which you wait since launch for.. but ok.. you need some second life for the crap games/ ports you get. And you also need a second life for every exklusiv you lost and which looks better on 360, haha."

Ah yes, Home. The area in which 360 fanatics bash the PS3 for. Did you know that 1st party exclusives are more important than 3rd party exclusives these days? I guess not because you're an idiot...tee-hee.

Also, multi-platform games are starting to look better on the PS3. The reason why there's a hard time porting games over to the PS3 is because of the fact that it's a hard system to develop for. 1st party exclusives always look better on the PS3. If that's all you're going to brag about-3rd party games...then I feel very sorry for you. Can you tell me any 360 exclusive that looks good besides Gears of War? I'm not talking about 3rd party either.

"And we ALL dont care what you fa*gots say.. fact is, that you have the best hardware (lol) on the world which cant show ANYTHING after years. poor POS3tards"

Pathetic words from a pathetic xbot.

Have fun in 3rd place!

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cr33ping_death - 517 days 2 hours ago

you tell em juuken

another xbot who knows he would rather have live for free but is forced to pay for it so he defends it to death

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madjedi - 517 days 1 hour ago

Maverick when we want a 12 yr old bots opinion, we will ask you, fine you think the ps3 will always be inferior to the 360 your a bot for life ect.

At least the other 360 owners posting, don't act like a little child bragging he is now potty trained, caps are not meant to be used in internet shouting matches, its not intelligent just annoying.

Its fine to be a fanboy of one console over another, but atleast post like your a semi intelligent adult, seeing your back to back post of yours makes me embarrassed to call myself a gamer. Next time try actually playing on a ps3 were people are talking instead of making bs up.

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na2ru1 - 516 days 5 hours ago

and let me tell the world...YOU ARE SO WRONG.

Both Gears and Halo3 take average 3-7 mins to join. Best being 20 seconds which is a quite frequent. But at least half the time, both take ages.

Halo is the most irritating when players match found, loads, then starts ALL over again. Team doubles is the only consistent one - 4 players total.

PS3 resistance speaks for itself with dedicated servers. UT3, MGO, Team fortress, Bad Company all consistently work without hardly anyone getting disconnected.

COD4 for both systems works very good though

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Microsoft_Spokesman - 517 days 4 hours ago

Well, what can you do when their mommy's bought them the wrong console for christmas.

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gano - 516 days 22 hours ago

But u gotta give it to microsoft tho, If i can vic u for $50 a yr from a million people too, Shyt. Why not.

Vote America.

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Microsoft_Spokesman - 517 days 4 hours ago

You mean rights, correct?

Xbots don't even know what rights are. So how can they stand for it to be free.

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Snukadaman - 517 days 2 hours ago

Really..your stupid enough to buy a ps3 and enjoy it..and most people think its a waste of money.....so calling other people stupid for a service they play games on and enjoy is quite hypocritical.....well in your case its a hippo BEING critical.

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juuken - 517 days 1 hour ago

"Really..your stupid enough to buy a ps3 and enjoy it..and most people think its a waste of money.....so calling other people stupid for a service they play games on and enjoy is quite hypocritical.....well in your case its a hippo BEING critical."

That's supposed to make sense?

XBL should be free-that's my point. It could be free and YET be enjoyable at the same time. Why does everything for the 360 have to come with a price?

I said people are stupid enough to pay for it when they should be standing up for themselves to make it free.

Try reading again because you're really stupid.

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Snukadaman - 517 days 1 hour ago

and surprisingly enough I do agree with it...but my point was clear and precise yet again and you still didn't get it..

and what the hell happened to -mavrick-..someone hack his account...he was a staunch droid...or did his blu-ray drive shat the bed like it has been for people?

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gano - 516 days 22 hours ago

Like the name by the way. With a statement like that from 7.2, u had nothing to say, he treated his/herself.

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Microsoft_Spokesman - 517 days 4 hours ago

"alot for free
or a few for quality"

True, get alot for free. AKA PSN.

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MpV35 - 517 days 4 hours ago

It keeps little kids off of it? Apparently you've never played on live...

You can't enjoy a single game without some kid talking about how gay you are and that he just raped you 7 ways to sunday and that your a disgrace to gaming and you should just hang yourself.

I'm sure you know what your talking about though. I must be the only person that this has happened to...

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Common Sense - 516 days 19 hours ago

Live is notorious for pre-pubescent boys yelling the N-word over and over again, you know like Noobzthegrey or whatever his name is .

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Microsoft_Spokesman - 517 days 4 hours ago

The best?

Hahah, nice joke.

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PoSTedUP - 517 days 4 hours ago

i think the PS is delivering pretty good after only one and a half years. and even less in EU. ya know.

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