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PlayStation 3's "MAG" In Real-Time

Kotaku writes: "The reveal of Zipper Interactive's MAG at E3 2008 was slightly tarnished by the fact that what Sony presented at its media briefing was a pre-rendered affair. Sure, it looked like that clip utilized in-game assets, but we've been burned by CG before. Never again!

Fortunately, on the official PlayStation.blog, we get a look at how MAG will run in real-time, thanks to Rade Stojsavljevic, the game's senior producer. Stojsavljevic notes in the comments that the official still of MAG is "an actual screenshot running on a PS3," one "cropped to center on the action."

Impressive? Hard to tell at 500 x 281 resolution, but we're willing to give it the benefit of the doubt."

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unrealgamer58 - 522 days 2 hours ago

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sswwwwwwweeeeeeeeeetttttt

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shine1396 - 522 days 2 hours ago

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I don't get it, why not do another socom?

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Will-UK - 522 days 2 hours ago

1.2 - WOW

looks great ,good work sony

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PirateThom - 522 days 2 hours ago

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By the time this comes out, I'd be surprised if it isn't called "SOCOM: something". I think they're using MAG now to avoid confusion with SOCOM: Confrontation.

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StephanieBBB - 522 days 2 hours ago

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Im so glad I decided to buy a PS3 =)

...instead of you know what...

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therealwillie - 522 days 2 hours ago

1.5 - pirate

these comments are from the playstation blog, page 3

nzitser | July 22nd, 2008 at 2:36 pm

under no circumstance should a game have the word “Game” in its title. (MGS4 you are forgiven). I would revise the name to something like, i don’t know, SOCOM : TOTAL WARFARE or something like that

Rade Stojsavljevic replied on July 22, 2008 at 2:59 pm

MAG is a brand new IP and is not part of the SOCOM franchise so it won’t have that as part of the name.

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PirateThom - 522 days 2 hours ago

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I know, I read that, but I'm really quite cynical :p

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Genki - 522 days 1 hour ago

1.7 - 1.3, sorry to burst your bubble, but I doubt it.

Navy SEALS don't fight large scale battles and skrimishes. This won't be the next SOCOM, and if it is, someone at Zipper...ESPECIALLY at Zipper, since they created the SOCOM franchise, had better get their head screwed on straight.

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KRUSSIDULL - 522 days ago

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It looks greats the graphics looks like G.R.A.W 2 and that isnt bad for 256 mulitplayer!

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Panthers - 521 days 22 hours ago

1.9 - @1.1

There is another Socom coming out. It is being made by Slant Six. Zipper wanted to do something different and this game looks amazing.

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Yipee Bog - 521 days 9 hours ago

1.10 - looks

good, but more importantly I hope it's fun to play

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Bob Dole - 521 days 7 hours ago

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256 player?!

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n4gzz - 522 days 2 hours ago

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It looks pretty impressive graphic wise. 1st person would be great but 3rd person works pretty well too. I just hope it is not top down view.

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Panthers - 521 days 22 hours ago

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No 1st person please. And I seriously doubt it will be top down view. This isnt a SNES game. It is a tactical shooter.

Zipper makes 3rd person shooters. They are the best out there.

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J8M7G - 522 days 2 hours ago

3 - Nice

Can't ask for any better graphics considering the amount of players and this is far better than i expected.

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JEDI WOLVERINE - 522 days 2 hours ago

4 - Question.........

Does anyone know 100% for sure that its fps/tps or is it - as some think - going to be a rts?..........

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bishop-br - 521 days 8 hours ago

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No confirmation as of now if it is a FPS or TPS or even if 'shooter' is the main gameplay element.

But for sure, with up to 256 people online by the same time, I don't think it's a RTS. I can see ways to do it, but I don't think it would feel that great and there isn't really a demand to that much players in strategy games... At least as far as I see.

I don't remember they saying anything on the conference, but for sure it just scream SHOOTER out of the video.

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titntin - 522 days 1 hour ago

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I didn't see a need to doubt the target renders we saw.

Both Killzone2 and Motorstoer have taken flak for using target renders when they were first announced, but in both cases the results are pretty close to the targets.

"Does anyone know 100% for sure that its fps/tps"
Absolutely we know for sure. You should watch the sony conference where it was announced and some details were given.

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PirateThom - 522 days 1 hour ago

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The irony being here that there was only one game this gen that was teased with CGI that didn't match it.... and it wasn't on PS3.

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The Wood - 521 days 23 hours ago

5.2 - PirateThom (the cynic)

Ohhh yeah lol

nobody EVER mentions that. I can see the goalposts shifting already;)

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bishop-br - 521 days 8 hours ago

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Yup! Far from matching really...

Not to mention, I have the impression that MAG can look better than that game... There isn't really so much too look at now (I was thinking that because of the character closer, bigger in the image, good character model) so I guess we'll have to wait for bigger screenshots.

And just to add some pepper. There is other one know for not delivering in the promise of the graphics. One know for the bullshots. Or by the shots saw you already guessed that everything would look like shinny plastic?

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JEDI WOLVERINE - 522 days 1 hour ago

6 - @PirateThom

"The irony being here that there was only one game this gen that was teased with CGI that didn't match it.... and it wasn't on PS3"

No im sure God of War3 is on the PS3 soon.........

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PirateThom - 522 days 1 hour ago

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And it'll be another game that has already matched the CGI target render.

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TheExecutive - 522 days 1 hour ago

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lol, i will laugh at this comment when they show that they meet that trailer. I am pretty sure that santa monica can bring that kind of game out of the PS3.

Oh and btw Jedi, he was talking about Halo3, have you seen the CGI trailer for it? I am sure you have. At least KZ2 and motorstorm got very very close to their renders and kz may just meet the render when all is said and done.

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PirateThom - 522 days 1 hour ago

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And then there will be gameplay footage and, like Killzone, people will say:

1. It's still CGI
2. It's easy to look like that, it'll be downgraded once they add AI and effects
3. It's dark/has no colour
4. It will flop anyway

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TheExecutive - 522 days 1 hour ago

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its funny that people still say its pre-rendered when people are playing it right in front of them. It must flatter GG quite a bit. Trust me there is no place but up for the graphics in that game... anyway a little offtopic, but who really cares?

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yanikins111 - 521 days 23 hours ago

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lol. and here i was thinking he meant the "other" GOW...

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DJ - 521 days 22 hours ago

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I remember the disappointment surrounding Halo 3's CG debacle. The funny thing though is that some people are STILL demanding that Guerilla show actual gameplay footage. =P

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Bebedora - 521 days 14 hours ago

6.7 - I wasn't overly impressed with GoW3 "target renderer"

I must say, I would be extremely disappointed if that 'CGI' wasn't met. I mean all tech in KZ2 and R2 will be in GoW3 and some more. Furthermore, some part of the GoW3 trailer had visuals of being in-game. May have been a mix of CGI and in-game, as I can see it (the waterwaves). PLUS the GoW1+2 had cinematic feel already on the PS2. Why would it be different this time around?

When talking about GoW3. MAG might just be what it looked like, but I cannot tell before KZ2 and R2 is out the doors. Then I can, for one, have a sense of what MAG will be capable of. But GoW3 will be insane, I am sure of.

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rockleex - 522 days 1 hour ago

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Awesome graphics for a 256 player game. I wonder if there will be campaign and co-op or if its an online only game?

By the way, I wonder how they'll deal with the lag when there are 256 different IP's interacting with each other? O_o

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TheExecutive - 522 days 1 hour ago

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just online only.

As for lag, I am wondering what that "new server architecture" really is.

I am pretty sure they poured over the possibilities of how many people they could have in-game, I am quite sure they found a way to provide this experience with little to no lag.

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Ceekay - 522 days 1 hour ago

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Looks good, but the setting is sooo old and boring.

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riksweeney - 522 days ago

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I really hope they pull this off. I don't want to see news articles like this cropping up:

1. MAG's maximum players dropped to 128
2. MAG's maximum players dropped to 64
3. MAG's maximum players dropped to 32
4. MAG's maximum players dropped to 16
5. MAG's maximum players dropped to 8
6. MAG cancelled

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Hockey11 - 522 days ago

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Zipper has been working on this for 3 years now. And besides its Zipper we are talking about.

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AcidHorse - 522 days ago

10 - Sony never attempted to pass this off as gameplay

Killzone 2 2005 footage was a different affair. The CG trailer of KZ2 in 05 was in first person, and that is unusual for a CG presentation.

The Mag trailer was obviously a trailer. I mean unless you are wearing a helmet in your living-room and not allowed to eat with forks, then that should be apparent to all who saw it.

Besides, the KZ2 footage only forced Sony to push the bar on that lofty promise they made back in E3 05. The gaming media's ass just feels soar for being screwed by their own gullibility.

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Raoh - 521 days 23 hours ago

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Zipper is one of those companies that delivers. and goes against the grain.

Zipper is one of the few companies you can expect to do this and do this well.

my concern isnt M.A.G.

my concern is that slantsix does SOCOM justice. this is their first attempt i believe at a console (ps3 at that). they are psp developer mainly from what i understand.

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SL1M DADDY - 521 days 23 hours ago

12 - If Killzone 2 can meet and nearly beat the target render...

Then I am sure this game will do the same. They have set their sights high here and I am eagerly waiting to see it in action. I did like his comment as to why they did not show it live on stage at E3. It would have been a trip to see them round up 256 people to play it though. Can you imagine what that would have done at E3? lol

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mistertwoturbo - 521 days 23 hours ago

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Real time MAG video found

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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DJ - 521 days 22 hours ago

13.1 - LOL

God, that's freaky.

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HondaSIRowner - 521 days 22 hours ago

14 - Cool

but for those saying "why not make a Socom". Just think, the ps2 had 4 frickin socoms. I think that's enough of that game, for now.

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Figboy - 521 days 22 hours ago

15 - how did Kotaku get "burned" by CG before?

Killzone 2 actually managed to get within 90% or more of the target CG render.

OHHHH wait, it's KOTAKU.

that means they got burned for hating on Killzone 2 since the CG trailer, and when the real time gameplay demonstration at E3 happened in 2007, they were "burned" by the fact that Sony proved them, and a bunch of other people wrong about how powerful the Playstation 3 really is.

i see now. nevermind.

f*cking kotaku...

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crazyclown - 521 days 18 hours ago

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this game gonna rape, people will say "microsoft, wtf who's microsoft, what is microsoft pifff" "halo wtf is halo" LMAO

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tudors - 521 days 17 hours ago

17 - Sorry but as good as the Killzone graphics are....

I do not think it is as good as the target render, totally different colours for a start.

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tudors - 521 days 17 hours ago

18 - See what you think...

the old vid is above, heres the new one. Not flaming or anything but I think it falls short of the target render by quite a lot, also does anyone think there will be flamethrowers?

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perseus - 521 days 14 hours ago

19 - This game is TPS?

Bah.　And I　was looking forward to it, too.

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name - 521 days 13 hours ago

20 - @acidhorse

Sony didn't try to pass off killzone 2's CG as realtime, the guy thought the interviewer was referring to Resistance.

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xg-ei8ht - 521 days 11 hours ago

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Tudors, totally different gameplay.

But the vid of the craft landing, theres another one that is real time, and it's pretty good.

ALL in all, the game is still incomplete and is looking better then anything before it.

From the explosions to the animations.

Looks like a 10/10 in my book, but we'll have to wait and see if the story is as good as gears. Of course that was a joke. You must have been thinking, what story.

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Tacki - 521 days 5 hours ago

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Another title that has got me so stoked! Yes, I said STOKED! I think those at Zipper know exactly what they're doing so I have little doubt this is going to be a killer game. They're sticking with what they do best, but expanding on it. Perhaps they will slap the SOCOM name on their for instant brand recognition, but I think even without it this game is bound to take off.

MAG, LittleBigPlanet, SOCOM:Confrontation, and Killzone 2 - I believe these games are really gonna set the PS3's online on fire! We have COD4 but we've yet to have an exclusive that really brings people online. I'm sure Warhawk is good (never played it)... but it's these games (along with Home) that I think will really take PSN to a whole new level.

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 522 days 2 hours ago

1 - 'but we've been burned by CG before'???

Well 'MotorStorm 1' looked the same as it's CG trailer

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Well 'KillZone 2' looks the same as the CG trailer

He must be talking about xBox 360 games!!! ;-D
Ooooooooops!!!;)

+That Sky looks nice!!!;-P Like to erm float in that;)

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why do droids cry - 521 days 20 hours ago

1.1 - what?

moterstorm cg trailer http://xs107.xs.to/xs107/06...

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...

motorstorm gameplay
http://twobrothersandasiste...

your dillusional or blind or both droid! :)

killzone 2 well yeah the graphics are sweet i have no quaral with that game. to much effort has gone in to it to be b1tch slapped like how you droids do it

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pwnsause - 521 days 20 hours ago

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thats pretty close to the cgi trailer, thanks for proving us that.

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syanara - 521 days 14 hours ago

1.3 - @1.1

you kinda proved that it is pretty close to the CG trailer there lol

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Kleptic - 521 days 9 hours ago

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yeah...the blur from boosting makes it less detailed, but a static shot will from both will show how close it really is...

Motorstorm is still the best looking arcade racer ever made...the only more realistic racing game around is GT5P...and Motorstrom 2 looks incredible...I don't know why you fanatics constantly ignore how good PS3 exclusives like that look...but whatever...do whatever you want...Sony has yet to significantly miss a pre-rendered trailer with actual gameplay...they may come a little short, but its kind of irrelevant when they are still better looking than any other game made...

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Tmac - 521 days 8 hours ago

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Lol, I love how that totally backfired on you.

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why do droids cry - 521 days 4 hours ago

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we no not really. i wasnt trying to down play the game. the game does look good i am not saying that it doesn't. it doesn't look that close to the cgtrailer. but thats my opinon. obviosly you see it as a duty to protect that.

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Tmac - 520 days 21 hours ago

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it back fired lol.

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THC CELL - 522 days 1 hour ago

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even then u wont be impressed cause its not on xbox

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 522 days 1 hour ago

2.2 - Er...

You won't like it anyway 'pp'???
You have been brain washed by these xBots on this to much!!! ;-D

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Mr PS3 - 522 days 1 hour ago

2.3 - That's how i feel

After seeing gears 1.5 add on
Now Off you go pp
Thy Silly Little Bot

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Montrealien - 522 days 1 hour ago

3 - This game looks grand

I love Zipper and I feel that this is the true sequel to Soccom, must buy for me can't wait.

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thereapersson - 522 days 1 hour ago

3.1 - Agreed

Zipper FTMFW!

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Chubear - 521 days 22 hours ago

3.2 - Yes, this is the current gen rendition of SOCOM

and I'm glad Zipper didn't fall victim to the community trying to limit their creative ideas. They're one of the few developers that have taken their last gen franchises to the next level and not copped out by releasing current gen upgrades that are in the "<insert name of game here> .5" realm.

Kojima did it with MGS (although all those games have always been unique unto themselves), Infinity Ward did it with CoD and it's good to see Zipper doing it to.

I think it shows the caliber of the level of a developing team when they do proper current gen renditions instead of upgrades a la RE5 and ... that game that will not be named.

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angel199x - 522 days ago

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The PS3 is really starting to show how much of a bloody beast it really is.. especially after MGS4 <3. We are barely in 2nd gear/year, and if this is how much muscle its already showing... I wonder how the competition could catch us when we will we hit third, fourth,fifth and sixth gear/year? So my question is why choose a ford when you can have a ferrari? :P

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Montrealien - 521 days 23 hours ago

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I feel like it`s more of a choice between a corvette Z6 (360) And an Enzo (Ps3) Both great cars, both fast, but one is cheaply made.

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Chubear - 521 days 22 hours ago

4.2 - Yes, just imagine

In years 5&6 we'll be looking back at games like Uncharted, MGS4 & Killzone II and laughing at how we ever thought these games were mind blowing in terms of graphics, lighting or physics.

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Common Sense - 521 days 20 hours ago

4.3 - Montrealien

I've used that analogy before but the PS3 was a Bugatti Veyron instead.

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juuken - 522 days ago

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This game shall kick ass.

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Common Sense - 521 days 20 hours ago

5.1 - it shall indeed

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silverchode - 521 days 8 hours ago

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no it wont <("<)

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bioshock - 521 days 19 hours ago

6 - we lost one(FF13)

and look waht sony gifted us with....
one thing i realli liked about the confrence at e3 was the fact when jack said, when ps1 was its in his 1s year it got this and tht and thn he explained same for ps2, now when i look back, how much time its been for ps3 to be out...i feel proud tht we got exclusives like resistance(the game which did wonder being a launch title) thn warhawk,motostrom,heavenly sword,ratchet n clank,uncharted,GT5p and finally MGS4...i mean frankly what more exclusive u want...this fall its maham, with LBP, resistance 2,socom confrontation,motostrom pacific rift....everything is here for a gamer.....rejoice deroids its time to crush pass M$

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na2ru1 - 521 days 19 hours ago

6.1 - BUT

we gained more

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na2ru1 - 521 days 19 hours ago

7 - 40 players, 60 players and now 256 players?

what was the cost of XBL again?

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bluegoblin - 521 days 12 hours ago

8.1 - T_T

Have you played it yet???
There,there let other people enjoy what this game might provide us with, which is 128 vs 128 u idiot...( who's the stupid one)

Go get ur saugages from those pink aliens in halo....

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Neo604 - 521 days 6 hours ago

9 - Sh1t MAG is the next gen multi player online.

128 vs 128 is crazy. Only Sony can pull it off.

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