Hudson: PS3 development too expensive

Genesis5 - 551 days 16 hours ago

Is that Rock Hudson? I thought he was dead.

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Well who ever you are just get your cheap butts over to the Wii cause we have never heard of you.

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ErcsYou - 551 days 15 hours ago

Is the PS3 really too expensive or is Hudson Soft just broke??

Either way it doesnt matter until they make me a sequel to Milo's Secret Castle or another Bloody Roar game..

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Expy - 551 days 15 hours ago

It's funny, because the only real difference is the development kit hardware... Apart from that, programmers are paid on a wage, regardless what language they program in. So how exactly is it more expensive...

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player911 - 551 days 15 hours ago

Hudson makes tons of sweet games. If you haven't picked up from the graphic, they make Bomberman and the Mario Party series, which are pretty big sellers.

They've been around since the 70's.

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Fanboi - 551 days 14 hours ago

To care.

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Expy - 551 days 14 hours ago

Maybe so, however Mario Party is exclusively Nintendo, and Bomberman isn't really enough to make anyone care whether or not they develop for PS3 or not.

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jaja1434 - 551 days 14 hours ago

"It's funny, because the only real difference is the development kit hardware... Apart from that, programmers are paid on a wage" is actually not true. Since the talent pool of programmer who can actually program for the PS3 is smaller, the demand is higher for them and thus their pay is higher. Simply supply and demand really.

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Bad_Karma - 551 days 10 hours ago

THE CARE FARM IS THAT WAY

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peksi - 551 days 9 hours ago

"for us"

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Gothdom - 551 days 7 hours ago

Bomberman can easily be made for PSN instead of a full fledge PS3 blu-ray game.

The rest of Hudson, I don't even care about... moreso if it's a new Adventure Island, I hated that game so much.

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ReBurn - 550 days 23 hours ago

Some programmers are more expensive than others. For instance, Visual Basic programmers are less expensive than Java programmers right now. By at least $15 per hour.

Because the PS3 is custom hardware it is going to cost more to hire people that have experience with it. Not all programming is the same.

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SlyGuy - 551 days 12 hours ago

who made Adventure Island on the Nintendo?

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gambare - 551 days 12 hours ago

I think they made a bomberman for the 360 but after that.... they haven't done anything great the problem is, if they think is expensive to develop in the PS3 then they should not try the next gen systems beyond 2010, the systems aren't going to simplify with time and the costs of the production will rise even more.

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Voiceofreason - 551 days 6 hours ago

Gambar.. What ever gave you that idea? Production costs will go DOWN not up. As more companies program for PS3, it will be easier for them to do as they go along.. The same is true for every other console gen we've had. PS2 started really expensive to program for in the beginning but by the end just about any dev company could make a PS2 game.

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JBaby343 - 551 days 4 hours ago

I think he means as a whole games will become more expensive to make. Yes in a generation costs will decrease as programming improves but the fact is games cost more today than they did 10, 15, and 20 years ago. Atari and Nintendo games weren't $60. Next generation of consoles will games costing more on the average.

But as to the article... Never heard of hudson.

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Mr Arthur Ritis - 551 days 3 hours ago

was $90 on genesis when it came out. I'm old. Damn.

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OOG - 551 days 16 hours ago

that comment is true but stupid all at the same time.....

People can make good games but when it costs too much to make the game people dont want to take the chance especially investors etc. It's not that easy to go ok lets throw 10s of millions dollars down to make this game that we do not have a gaurantee on selling. This is a big issue for ps3 especially for companies outside the "Sony Umbrella of developers" to make a game because it can quite possibly break your company over 1 game.

Same reason your gonna see a lot more sequels then anything on the PS3...because as we have seen not all good new games...or at least decent games are making a profit.

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Seraphim - 551 days 15 hours ago

that's the thing though. If you don't want it to cost a fortune it doesn't have to. You can still produce low budget titles on the PS3 and even 360 for that matter. You don't have to go all high tech w/ coding, physics, graphics, and the whole nine. And the kind of games Hudson makes I wouldn't expect that from anyway. They make very simplistic games for the most part and if they really wanted to they could easily go about creating them on PS360 for little to no additional cost. But the kind of games they do make would be more suited for a PSN title anyway; $20 tops. I'd include XBM but with the limit cap I don't think Hudson would be able to offer the kind of games they'd like on the XBM. At least not in the way they expressed they like the PS Store and the kind of games they probably have in mind. Anyway, aside from Bomberman their games are really bombs anyway. There's very few decent games I can think of that Hudson has come up stemming all the way back from the NES.

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fusionboxer - 551 days 6 hours ago

Yea seraphim is pretty on point here. Other then the Bomberman franchise , Hudson despite what some may want to believe haven't made anything especially appealing to the mass market.

It's ok that they don't want to make full fledged titles on the ps3, but don't shut ps3 owners out of bomberman online. That's just classic fun. Then again they could go the route of Nippon Ichi and work on amazing gameplay with less then stellar visuals like with the case of Disgaea 3.

If anything, come out with a line of PSN titles so that they don't waste millions on a game no one will buy. I mean most of the users here don't even know who they are.

As a joke I say they release a game next week that's total bullshit and add trophy support. Everyone will rush to buy it (including myself ) and Hudson will make a hefty profit.

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fusionboxer - 551 days 6 hours ago

But that's kinda whack. No offense though. I just wouldn't want you to use it again in less then stellar circumstances.

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KarateExplosion - 551 days 7 hours ago

For bringing up bloody roar. Its amazing people are on this website (news 4 gamers) who's comments are... Hudson who? They make good games. Dont get butt hurt because they said they wont develop for the ps3. By the look of the article they arent gonna be doing to much with 360 either. Pay some respect where respect is due.

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Millah - 551 days 16 hours ago

Lol most these kids have never even heard of Hudson. Bomberman anyone? Gee maybe thats why theres a picture of Bomberman sittin right there?

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Hagaf22 - 551 days 15 hours ago

is it to expensive? or are they just too cheap and lazy.... ummmmm.... i dont hear insomnic complaining, nor naughty dog, nor really any one else, can't say not having bomber man on ps3 is gunna hurt my feelings much, im back off to resistance now....

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Voiceofreason - 551 days 7 hours ago

Well if you havent heard anyone else obviously you are new to gaming. Hudson isnt the first company to say this. Of course you can name off plenty of companies in Sony's pocket but not everyone gets that benefit.

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cmrbe - 551 days 16 hours ago

i bet you hate companies that don't develop for the x360.

Edit Snuka : Sucker Punch and Insomniac offcourse just to name a few :).

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Snukadaman - 551 days 15 hours ago

besides ncsoft what other companies dont develop for xbox?

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Sevir04 - 551 days 15 hours ago

That was funny way to flip the script

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Kigmal - 551 days 14 hours ago

No I don't hate those companies at all. I don't hate any company at all, not even EA. And actually I like Insomniac because I was a fan of the Spyro series back when it was in its prime. But yes, I don't hate companies in the gaming industry. Maybe Hudson doesn't have that much money to make a full PS3 game. They never said they don't like PS3.

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cmrbe - 551 days 14 hours ago

Kimal that is cool and i believe you. I don't hate any devs that work exclusively for the x360 either. I only responded because you were generalising. Not all PS fans you know.

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Kigmal - 551 days 12 hours ago

I feel you bro, but if you take a look at all the comments before me, you would see why I said it.

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kazuma - 551 days 6 hours ago

when was spyro in its prime? lol

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jwatt - 551 days 16 hours ago

Yea they could make Bomberman on the psn they got one on live.

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darkpower - 551 days 16 hours ago

"That said, it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that the company’s coding efforts may yet be seen on Sony’s console.

Despite ruling out releasing standard boxed titles on the PS3, Ishizuka (according to the translation, anyway) does appear to praise Sony’s PSN download service, describing it as “attractive” in the business sense."

They don't usually create too many disc-based games anymore anyway, do they? I haven't seen too many Hudson 360 games, either (after Bomberman Zero, I can't blame them).

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Kigmal - 551 days 14 hours ago

oh the irony ....

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darkpower - 551 days 16 hours ago

They got their lessons from Valve and Gabe Newell.

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The Lazy One - 550 days 20 hours ago

Could we drop the lazy argument already? It's like anytime a developer says developing for the PS3 is in any way negative there's a default sony fanboy response of the developer being lazy.

Would you just give it a rest?

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Icewake - 551 days 16 hours ago

You're a terrible troll, you just flat out suck at it. Please just leave it all to DarkSniper, you're not cut out for it.

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thereapersson - 551 days 10 hours ago

how can people agree with this moron?

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dem0n - 551 days 6 hours ago

Probably multiple accounts, or it could just be stupidity.

People are as blind as ever nowadays. They follow hand and foot behind a company like it's a God.

On topic:
Anyway, the development costs aren't a big deal. They are usually minor in comparison to the 360. Risks? What risks? The PS3 is just as mainstream as the 360 and Wii. There's no excuse for saying things like that.

Sure the 360, DS, and Wii are easier to develop for, but completely refusing to do games on the PS3 is just stupid. If it's so hard, how is it that other developers are able to develop on it?

I'm pro-360 but Hudson just lost some respect from me. I enjoyed Bomberman LIVE, but I probably won't purchase any future games from them. This article just screams greed.

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AngryTypingGuy - 551 days 5 hours ago

The company that makes Bomberman, one of the most fun multiplayer games ever (and possibly the most fun game on Xbox Live) doesn't want to develop for PS3, and you're saying poor Xbots? I'm failing to see how 360 fans lose out in this situation.

You are suffering from a major case of sour grapes.

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Pain - 551 days 3 hours ago

Do devs even spend money making on 360? since M$ bribes u to make on RROD2 with the "will pay for development"?

and who the Hell is Hudson?? oh bomberman? lol some little cheap dev studio that wish they could make a PS3 game... poor baby M$ will pay for it to be crap on 360..... *cough* To Human.....

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XGamer - 551 days 8 hours ago

and the xbot thing is kinda stupid, just like yourself.

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dem0n - 551 days 6 hours ago

Angelitos...

Why are you so incompetent? Did you drop out of school or something? If you ask me, I think you're the one with hurt feelings.

I dislike DarkSniper...but I'll give him credit, he's not as pathetic as you.

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AngryTypingGuy - 551 days 5 hours ago

Angelitos, Dark Sniper is a parody of what you really are. He's making fun of you. Dark Sniper's posts are actually funny and entertaining.

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AngryTypingGuy - 551 days ago

"Poor Xbot Icewake", "Poor Xbot AngryTypingGuy" - you are a one trick pony. I have to retract a statement I made in a previous post. Angelitos, you ARE funny my friend! And by funny, I mean retarded.

Nobody's backs are against a wall. You have to remember, that we're all anonymous video game geeks on a message board. All of us. You are starting to believe that you are something that you are not, and what that is, I have know idea.

Sorry you won't be playing Bomberman, little girl, and sorry you won't become an "unstoppable force"...on a video game message board. LOL, geek.

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Snukadaman - 551 days 15 hours ago

earn a trophy and im sure your anger level will subside...like someone said...hudson has not made anything worth buying since the nes era...By the way...something interesting konami owns 53% in stock....could this be a trend?

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Steven Colbert - 551 days 14 hours ago

They made the awful Fuzion Frenzy 2 on the 360.Last year when the 360 had two great games such as Mass Effect and Bioshock,along came Fuzion Frenzy 2 and tarnished the 360 and all videogames in general.For that mistake,Hudson can just die.

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juuken - 551 days 12 hours ago

Yeah, in your dreams.

Cheap ass developers can't seem to ask Sony for help these days. They're always b*tchin about 'TEH PS3 ISH TOO EXPENSIVE!11111'!!! How is it that most developers for the PS3 aren't complaining about this?

Hudson call themselves developers and yet they don't want to take the plunge?

Get over yourself.

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cmrbe - 551 days 15 hours ago

very true stealth. I was commenting in another thread how xbots choose some pretty stupid names like D1ck, InYourMom POG which makes people think about the PROD. I don't know what these guys are thinking of when they chose their names.

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cmrbe - 551 days 14 hours ago

First you ask what my name is because you don't know what it means then you say it sucks like you know what it means?. Hehe your are not very bright aren't yah.

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juuken - 551 days 12 hours ago

Lol, 4D is a on a rampage today!
Yep...xturds choose the dumbest names alright. They love playin' undercover!

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cmrbe - 551 days 14 hours ago

speaking of stupid names. Here we have another one. Zhuck. you should really change your name buddy because people could easily mistake your name to suck.

Come to think of it. PP is another xbot name. So we have D1ck, PP and giant enemy crap. All we are missing is an Asshole.

You kids use some pretty funny names :).

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Icewake - 551 days 14 hours ago

Who are you to be talking about stupid names? Good job rolling your face on your keyboard to get yours, we're all so proud.

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Hockey11 - 551 days 7 hours ago

What ever happened to anti Zhuk?

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cmrbe - 550 days 21 hours ago

Perhaps you should have been Asshole hehe.

Man i love pissing you guys off.

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cmrbe - 550 days 21 hours ago

to the funzone besides i can't help it. Everytime i reply to D1ck or Crap or PP i can't help but wonder what the heck they were thinking of when they chose their names.

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Amon - 550 days 19 hours ago

your mom SUCKS............hard

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