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Analysis of Americas Sales for the Week Ending June 21st, 2008

VGChartz writes: "Metal Gear Solid 4 was the top selling title for the second week in a row, but Wii was the top selling console this week. PS3 sales dropped to the point where Xbox 360 was able to outsell it slightly.

Metal Gear Solid 4 remained the top selling non-bundled game for this week, but it is dropping rather quickly after a stellar debut at over 500,000 units last week. Following closely was Wii Fit which topped a million units in lifetime sales this week. Hardware sales roughly paralleled those two games – the drop in Metal Gear Solid 4 was accompanied by a large drop in PS3 sales, while the increase in Wii Fit sales accompanied a large increase in Wii sales.

Year over year trends continue to indicate that this year is trending to be the biggest ever for the videogame industry in the Americas. All hardware except for the ancient PS2 was up from this time a year ago.

.........6/21/08........6/23/07....YoY Change
Wii....185,689.......108,739..........+71%
DSL..167,666.......143,944..........+16%
360....57,574........50,884...........+13%
PSP...69,654........63,863...........+9%
PS3...55,163.......20,980...........+163%
PS2...33,897........60,583...........-44%

Notes:

- Grand Theft Auto IV has sold to about 32.5% of all Xbox 360 & PS3 owners in the Americas, with a total of 5.5 million copies.
- Halo 3 is owned by over 49% of all Xbox 360 owners in the Americas.
Cyrus365 - contributor
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Fernando Rocker - 549 days ago
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Weird fact... even if MGS4 is a million seller (2.1 million by now)... it hasn't sold 1 million in a single region.

Acording to Media Crate (oficial data, because I know you guys here don't trust in VGChartz estimated numbers) MGS4 is at 600,000, selling only 65,000 last week (huge drop).

In USA is at 700,000, with a huge drop last week, from 555,000 first week to 150,000 last week. But this are VGChartz numbers, so you will want to wait for NPD numbers. But I'm 100% sure that MGS4 will not reflect a million units sold in the next NPD numbers.

The rest is from Europe.
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Condoleezza Rice - 549 days ago
1.1 - Yep,MGS4 is at 3 Million now
It's clear the game has done well internationally,and with the title only recently launching in Spain,Hideo Kojimas masterpiece will have very good numbers when it's all said and done.
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Fernando Rocker - 549 days ago
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Is not at 3 million. The game already shipped 3 million, but close to 800,000 are still in stores.
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Condoleezza Rice - 549 days ago
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Exactly,it's at 3 Million shipped.

I'll need a link for that "800,000 still in stores" statement.
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clintos59 - 548 days 23 hours ago
1.4 - fernando
U do remember that mgs4 sold 1.4 million on day 1? So I wouldnt be suprised if it has sold over 3 million copies by now. Whoever is a ps3 owner and doesnt own this game is missing out big time. I feel bad for those who purchase a ps3 and hasnt played this game. It truelly is the best next gen game to come out. If u havent bought this game then I dont even see the point in owning a ps3, because this is the game all ps3 owners should be looking forward too even if u aint a big fan of the series, the game is a must buy game.
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1stKnighT - 548 days 22 hours ago
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3 million sold? Stop making up numbers. The most recent report is at 1.8 million and dropping fast.
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juuken - 548 days 22 hours ago
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Knight, that wasn't a made up number.
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Steven Colbert - 548 days 22 hours ago
1.7 - Hey Fernando I know you
Your on Joystiq and you say funny stuff sometimes
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Fernando Rocker - 548 days 22 hours ago
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Yes, I post over Joystiq and do some of the photoshops. =p

Whats your nickname over there?
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Real gamer 4 life - 548 days 21 hours ago
1.9 - @ fernando
it hasn't sold 1 million in a single region.

I think metal gear solid sold a million units in Europe.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/20...

http://ps3.ign.com/articles...
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Thugbot187 - 548 days 16 hours ago
1.10 - Silly Fight
Everyone hypes up these certain titles like MGS4 but the fact is, while this is a killer title it isn't a title for everyone. The stealth action genre isn't as popular as others genres, so it logical that it will not sale as well as other games in much larger genres. With that being said there is no point in putting the MG4's sales numbers, and its silly for all these fanboy's to keep defending them.

Not everyone loves stealth action titles, if that was the case you would see more developers make more games of this genre. It is obvious however that this game is the uncontested King of its genre. To compare this to Halo or GTA is unrealistic because they target diffrent crowds.

These fanboy fights are silly.
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PirateThom - 547 days 22 hours ago
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"3 million sold? Stop making up numbers. The most recent report is at 1.8 million and dropping fast."

I wasn't aware a sold units number could go down...
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ElementX - 548 days 23 hours ago
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Wow, 360 sales increased over last year without anything blockbusters like "MGS4"

And Halo 3 is owned by just under half of 360 owners! I bet MGS4 won't ever claim that percentage.

I'll still play it when i get my ps3. I'll be an equal opportunity hater once i get a ps3, then i'll own all 3 systems
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clintos59 - 548 days 23 hours ago
2.1 - Sales wise halo 3 has the edge but..
As a whole complete package, MGS4 craps all over halo 3 and is a way better game hands down.
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ElementX - 548 days 22 hours ago
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The Halo series is still being played YEARS after it comes out. Look at Halo 2, tons of people still play that. How many people do you know are still playing MGS3? That's right, less than 4 million copies sold probably means you don't know anyone with that game!
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Steven Colbert - 548 days 22 hours ago
2.3 - Im gonna have to disagree there man
Your comparing an online game to a single player game.Lets be fair.How many people are still playing the Halo 2 single player to MGS3 single player?Not as much because the essential collection was released for people new to the MGS franchise.Saying that more people are playing Halo2 rather than MGS3 is kinda like saying more people are playing WoW than Ninja Gaiden Black
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Kyur4ThePain - 548 days 22 hours ago
2.4 - @Element
What does so many people still playing Halo2 say about Halo 3?
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clintos59 - 548 days 20 hours ago
2.5 - To steven and element
Just because a game gets played more because of online doesnt mean it is a great game. Yes multiplayer is where halo 2 and 3 shine but the single player is mediocre as it can get. The whole mgs series topples halo series in the single player area by miles. Also Kojima isnt an ICON for nothing and isnt called one of the best devs of all time for nothing. He is praised alot more then bungie can ever be praised. Come to me when bungie ever makes it to the status of Kojima.

Edit: Also forgot to mention that both halo 2 and 3 didnt even live up to its hype. Yes it sold alot of copies but alot people including myself were dissappointed from both games. I mean finish the fight? lol. MGS4 is how u finish the fight and also is as good as it gets to see a gaming Icon like solid snake finish his last battle with a BANG. Best outing for a game ive ever played in my life.
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Cyrus365 - 548 days 23 hours ago
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I dunno what people expected, but did anyone really think MGS 4 was going to sell more than Halo? The only game that'll do that is likely GTA IV, and that's due to being on both systems, or something like Wii Sports/Wii play.
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clintos59 - 548 days 23 hours ago
3.1 - COD4 aswell..
I believe it has sold over 10 million if I am not mistaken.
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Cyrus365 - 548 days 18 hours ago
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my bad forgot about call of duty 4, but again that's combined sales of every platform including PC.

MGS 4 is a great game, better than Halo 3, but it doesn't have the commercial appeal as Halo 3, and Sony did a piss poor job of marketting MGS 4. I've yet to see a MGS 4-PS3 commercial in my terrority. I've seen ads with MGS 4 features in a PS3 commercial, along with little big planet, etc. But not on it's own. Imagine it getting a AD support like Halo "Finish the fight" campagin, or Gears of war type commercials, running for 2 good straight months over and over again. I think it'd definitely sell better than it is currently.
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eagle21 - 548 days 23 hours ago
4 - I seriously doubt Vgchartz is correct , look at May NPD...
I saw 40GB and 80GB PS3's sold out at my local Best Buy.

July is when Sony is replenishing the bundles again, but the 40GB outsold 360 last month. It will this month. The 80GB of course will have PS3 easily outselling 360 in June.

Vgchartz has been wrong for 3 months straight. Pachter too! :)
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juuken - 548 days 22 hours ago
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Exactly. Gotta love them 360 owners claiming that the PS3 is finished.
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Real gamer 4 life - 548 days 23 hours ago
5 - vgchart is crap!
Why do we keep approving this crap? Vgchart just pulls out numbers out their a$$. Didn't they say that the 360 out sold the ps3 for the month of may and when npd's numbers came out, it showed that the ps3 came on top. And their was even times when vgchart has stated that the ps3 has sold more but then when npd came out it proved them wrong. time after time vgchart has been proven wrong.
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Silogon - 548 days 22 hours ago
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Lies! It's VG charts for one. I mean, by now wouldn't you, if you were VG charts, not post numbers right before the much more accurate and much more reliable NPD and SIM post theirs? It just makes you look like the worthless site you are.

My world wide sales totals for june:

Wii 800,000 to 1 million
Ps3 600,000 to 700,000
xbox 360 300,000

I'll be closer than VG charts watch and see. TVG for the win!!
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Jason 360 - 548 days 22 hours ago
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Ok, I'll bookmark this and when NPD comes out I'll post your prediction in every NPD news for everyone to see... deal
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Fernando Rocker - 548 days 22 hours ago
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And also compare my prediction to NPD.

PS3 will be close to 350,000. Oh please. Boomark this entry. You guys really dont like to use logic.
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OOG - 548 days 20 hours ago
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o im gonna play this game as well lol...ummm let me see...... WII at 800,000 units, PS3 at ummmm 500,000 and 360 at um 360,000 oooo thats worldwide im guessn
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Jason 360 - 548 days 22 hours ago
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Hmm it's VGC, so I'll wait till NPD, but there sure is alot of spin though.
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1stKnighT - 548 days 22 hours ago
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Yeah that's what they were saying but MGS was never a Halo or GTA type game. I'm not surprised by the final numbers.
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1stKnighT - 548 days 22 hours ago
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Ps3's main gun and it didn't even outsell the 360 in America and only outsold the 360 by 40k worldwide. That's pretty pathetic for a game that was supposed to crush the 360. When Halo 3 was released the 360 outsold the ps3 by an easy 400k. The 360 still has about a 6 million console lead. The ps3 will never catch up. Game over!
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juuken - 548 days 22 hours ago
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...And you would know this...how?
Can I borrow your shiny crystal ball? Because I predict that not ONLY will the PS3 catch up, it will surpass the 360. I wouldn't take VGChartz's numbers as gospel if I were you.

You know, disagree as much as you want. But when people start predicting doom and gloom for Sony, it makes you *wonder*.
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Fernando Rocker - 548 days 22 hours ago
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jukken

360 still has an advantage of 6 million. Even if the PS3 start outselling the 360 by, lets say, 300,000 every month (very hard to do), it would take the PS3 close to two years just to reach 360 numbers.
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Kyur4ThePain - 548 days 22 hours ago
9.3 - @Fernando
You're either saying that the 360 will be replaced within 2 years, or that the 360 will succumb to the PS3.

Which is it?

@1stKnight
"The ps3 will never catch up. Game over!"
That's it? You're done with gaming after this generation? I think I'm pleased.
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juuken - 548 days 22 hours ago
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Fernando, you seem to also forget that Sony has some possible blockbusters on their hands which will give them the advantage over the 360. They've been outselling the 360 for months, AND they reached some really good numbers a lot faster than the 360. You make it sound as if they're so far behind that they'll never catch up. I find it miraculous that Sony reached the numbers they're at so quickly.
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1stKnighT - 548 days 22 hours ago
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It's simple math people. 6 million lead. Sony just released their MAIN GUN and that is MGS4 and it only outsold the 360 by 40k worldwide. Do the math. It's not that hard to realize the 360 has beaten the ps3 this gen. So much denial.
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juuken - 548 days 22 hours ago
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Knight, I do recall that 2008 isn't finished yet. Once again, quit using your shiny crystal ball because you seem to be using that a *lot* to justify your reasons for believing MS won this generation. MGS4 was just one of those blockbuster games. You still have games like Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, Tekken 6, FFXIII to consider before you claim the 360 is the victor.

Just some friendly advice-don't count the chickens before they're hatched.

Yeah kazuma, I wish I had one as well. Knight seems to have that technological advantage over us for some odd reason. He's oozing with so much excitement that he wants to see the PS3 get crushed by the 360.
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kazuma - 548 days 22 hours ago
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kudos to all the people that have a time-machine and already know the outcome of the console war. i wish i had one ='(
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Kyur4ThePain - 548 days 22 hours ago
9.8 - Checkered Flag
I still wonder what's going to happen when all is said and done and the 360 outsold the PS3.
Is that going to be the 2nd coming? Will we have world peace? Will your bald patch go away?
Or will we just start over with the next generation? I never understood this sales race. It's about as interesting as the nuclear weapons race.
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1stKnighT - 548 days 21 hours ago
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It's not a time machine, it's not a crystal ball, it's called math. Do you understand what it's going to take for the ps3 to catch up to the 6 million lead that the 360 has? DO YOU??? MGS4 didn't even make a dent in the 360 lead and now you think Tekken or Resistance will? LMAO. If the 360 stopped right this second and the ps3 sold 300k a month it would need at least 2 years to catch up. But how is that going to happen when the 360 is still selling well and about to drop its price by a significant margin? The ps3 cannot go any lower since they're still losing a lot of money on the ps3. It's not that hard folks so stop with your dreaming. It's over.
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juuken - 548 days 21 hours ago
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Knight, once AGAIN...the year isn't OVER. You're predicting an outcome which may or may not happen. You're predicting doom and gloom for the PS3 already because the 360 has a 6 million lead as you so put it?

WHAT MAKES YOU THINK IT WON'T CHANGE?

Please...stop spinning conclusions, for the last freakin' time.

Ugh, I'll leave you here with the rest of the sensible folk here who could probably knock some sense into your brain.

Goodnight.
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killinet247 - 548 days 21 hours ago
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Is it really that big of a deal who wins the console war? I mean seriously look at yourselfs. It's quite pathetic that you care so much about something that really isn't that important. Both Sony and MS will make a new console next generation. So a winner isn't really that big of a deal. Except for bragging rights I guess, but who cares.
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1stKnighT - 548 days 21 hours ago
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Yeah your right. Who really cares. I'm not over here screaming at my monitor waving the Microsoft flag. But in the spirit of N4G, I like to debate with the opposite side.
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killinet247 - 548 days 21 hours ago
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Haha. Fair enough. If you enjoy messing with people and getting them all worked up them go ahead i just don't see the fun in it. I would rather just enjoy good games and not worry about "sides".
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blindfromthesun - 548 days 20 hours ago
9.14 - I like to side with logic
No matter what way you look at it, 360 has beat PS3 in sales numbers. OH NOEZ! Seriously, no big deal. There will be great games coming out for both. It is one thing to be naive and another to completely ignore the sales advantage enjoyed by 360. 6 million lead is too great a mountain to climb. Do you own stock in Sony? I don't, and I don't care if you think I'm biased or an Xbox fanboy.

For everyone that says Little Big Planet and Resistance 2 are going to sell a boat load of PS3's think again. LBP is a casual game for an audience that is mostly hardcore. It will probrably sell the best in Europe and Japan...not as well in America. Resistance 2, while looking good will get pounded into the ground by GeOW 2. Resistance: Rise of Man hasn't even sold over 3 million yet.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

GeOW 2 on the other hand has sold over 5 million.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

The 360 will also have a price cut within the next couple of weeks that will have a very positive effect on sales. When Madden 09 comes out, I wonder which new console late comers to "next generation" will pick up. $300 will put new life into Xbox 360 sales figures.

If you think I'm just being a blind fanboy, think again. I've explored the system selling potential of Metal Gear Solid 4 and the slight sales advantage of PS3 since the year began. It is rational to conclude that GeOW 2 will sell better than Resistance 2 (its closest competitor) and the 360 will enjoy greater sales than PS3 after the price drop.
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kazuma - 548 days 13 hours ago
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tbh i don't give a f*ck if ps3 comes out first, second or third. there's like what 3 years ahead? 4? yeah i'm pretty sure everything's set in stone by now... *rolls eyes*
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jackdoe - 548 days 22 hours ago
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Hmm. My guess for the sudden drop? Lack of 80GB bundles. Anyways, I am incredibly disappointed and frustrated with U.S. PS3 owners. GO OUT AND BUY MGS4 IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY! Seriously. A game this good should have sold a million in the U.S. by now.
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juuken - 548 days 22 hours ago
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I agree most definitely.
But I agree with Kyu as well. Plus, this game has been receiving negative vibe lately, despite the near-perfect scores it received.
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