The Lies We Tell : BioShock's Exclusivity

Breakfast - 569 days 21 hours ago

You do what you gotta do, to make money.

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rroded - 569 days 21 hours ago

funny but whos gonna trust an exclusive thats not first party or at least published inhouse now?

After shelling out for the 360 version then seeing the pc version some were pissed but now its gonna b on the ps3 too and looking better there too lol

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chaosatom333 - 569 days 20 hours ago

this is what i learned:

" all high profile games from 3rd party publishers are planned from the beginning to be multi-platform" because of marketing money can be spent in on one big campaign.

"cost of developing for multiple platforms can easily be recouped" because both of the consoles have good install base.

"Once you’ve created a good code base for PS3, it is easy to turn that into a well running 360 version." sort of knew this.

Microsoft paid for the exclusive deals. Knew this also.

exclusive because of "unsureness about the success of BioShock" New developers will look for money from microsoft.

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jwatt - 569 days 20 hours ago

Good read, we've been seeing this happen for a while but it's good to have some meaning behind this kind of stuff. It's obvious once the install base gets higher devs would start to show more love for the ps3.

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thewhoopimen - 569 days 20 hours ago

f everyone of Microsoft's third party titles are "timed"exclusives, then it tells me one thing: I should only keep a PS3. Why?

If every title except for 3 Microsoft studios (rare/lionhead/silicon?) will all be available on the PS3, why would I buy the console?

I know I can expect about 16 additional 1st party exclusive titles coming from Sony because they have so many first party studios. Also it means that the 3 titles I'm missing out on, I can get for PC.

To me this article boils down my decision as a consumer to who has the most "TRUE" exclusive titles this gen. Sounds like it will be Sony.

Does that make sense?

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Mr_President_ - 569 days 20 hours ago

I concur. PCS3 FTW

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ChrisGTR1 - 569 days 17 hours ago

well it really depends on what exclusives you like, just cause sony makes the most exclusives dosent mean there the best. besides god of war how many other AAA first party ps3 games are there?? honestly.. i cant think of any.
edit and no socom isnt AAA

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The Round Peg - 569 days 16 hours ago

In fact, Silicon Knights' Denis Dyack has said they're working on undisclosed PS3 title(s).

Microsoft's first-party studios are: Rare, Lionhead, Ensemble. They make good games, but NOT "AAA" titles. The only Microsoft's first-party studio that made "AAA" games was Bungie (which is no longer a first-party studio.)

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beavis4play - 569 days 16 hours ago

your opening words were correct: "it really depends on what exclusives you like".
calling something "AAA" means nothing if you don't like the game. for ex. many people consider halo(x360) or final fantasy(ps3) to be AAA. but, if you don't like one of these, why would you buy the system(or the game).
i buy ps because of of exclusive titles like ratchet and clank, jak and daxter, socom, FF, GOW, KZ, resistance, MGS, twisted metal,(hopefully more come out!) uncharted....and what you think doesn't mean anything to me. just like you can like halo and what i think shouldn't matter to you. buy the system for what games YOU like that aren't on other systems, not what you are being told you should be playing.

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Panthers - 569 days 16 hours ago

So, if a game isnt AAA then you dont play it?

Socom is the best online game I have ever played... period and the sole reason I got the PS3. I could care less about this stupid console war.

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HighDefinition - 569 days 14 hours ago

Socom isn`t AAA, OK? Tell that to the millions of people that still play Socom 2 on PS2.

-GOW
-SOTC
-GT
-MGS
-SLY
-FF
-R&C

to name a few.

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boodybandit - 569 days 12 hours ago

gaming is nearly as bad as most governments now. We only know what they want us to know and by the time we find out the truth it doesn't matter any more. This is why I don't follow politics and don't care for gaming reviews or trust "most" gaming information. I believe what I see when I have game and gaming products in hand to judge for myself.

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Andronix - 569 days 12 hours ago

I understand the business of business, a timed exclusive makes sense for 2k Boston and promoting BioShock for the Xbox 360. However there are other developers who make deals for timed exclusives and are open about it. EG. EPIC had a timed exclusive with Sony for Unreal Tournament. THEY DIDN'T LIE and say it was an exclusive. They let everyone know it was timed.

Im less inclined to trust Microsoft or 2k Boston. Lying to customers isn't the way to go.

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apoc06 - 568 days 4 hours ago

"1.14 - SONY started the PS1 with this same method.........
Mortal Kombat, Final Fantasy, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil: just to name a few. So you SONY only guys can just chill."

mortal kombat - when MK was released, the playstation did not exist. the first MK titles were on the genesis and super nintendo respectively. the ps1 did not receive a version of MK until ultimate MK III came out, well after the release of umk3 on 16 bit consoles.

final fantasy - final fantasy was originally slated to be a nintendo game. when nintendo eschewed the cd format, square had to take the project elsewhere since they could only fit the FMV-filled game on a cd based format.

tomb raider - tomb raider was released for the sega saturn first.

resident evil - the game was released for the ps1 and the saturn version was released very shortly after. given the known difficulty in developing for the saturn, the saturn version would have had to be in development at the same time as the ps1 version.

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Mark 1 - 569 days 19 hours ago

Bioshock 2 will be a 360 exclusive.

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mistertwoturbo - 569 days 19 hours ago

"Bioshock 2 will be a 360 exclusive."

Just like Bioshock 1 right? *rollseyes*

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QuackPot - 569 days 18 hours ago

At the most.

Depends on if Microsoft can get some value from what they pay.

My guess is that Microsoft won't pay for a timed exclusive as the secrets out that is game is now multiplatform.

Bioshock just isn't a valued exclusive as Halo or Gears are.

Microsoft's likely purchased some exclusive DLC instead. lol.

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kosha - 569 days 14 hours ago

Bioshock might not be as good as the first because its being developed by different people (or so i heard)

BTW bioshock 2 wont be exclusive to 360. At most it will be timed like the first one

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harry190 - 569 days 11 hours ago

from what I heard,is planned to be a day one multi platform title.PC,PS3,360.But things can change.Yeah,I thought the article was pretty interesting and worth submitting on N4G.

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Breakfast - 569 days 21 hours ago

If you look at it that way, i can say the exact same thing about 3rd party ps3 games.

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TheExecutive - 569 days 20 hours ago

True but its all about the deal. Thats what this article explained. I am sure Sony paid Konami very very well to have exclusive rights to MGS4. I am sure MS did the same for Gears. To see either one of these go multiplatform this generation would truly be shocking.

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chaosatom333 - 569 days 20 hours ago

True, but they are using SPE in the ps3. It's kinda hard to transfer if did it that way.

I'be fine with sharing 3rd party titles, but then it would come to first party developers. Which sony would own.

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QuackPot - 569 days 18 hours ago

FPS developers just need to exaggerate the action, make larger than life characters and make them really Gung Ho....and you have yourself another Gears.

Damn, had Insomniac done this with Resistance, that game could have gone down as one of the greatest shooters ever.

So having Gears 3+ on the Ps3 would be great but not necessary. Just copy and improve developers.

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Martini - 569 days 8 hours ago

Didn't you read what the "lead" developer for ps 3 had to say about programming ??

"Once you’ve created a good code base for PS3, it is easy to turn that into a well running 360 version."
Unlike the other way around :)

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Imallvol7 - 569 days 21 hours ago

They are going to have to add to that statement, "Only on Xbox 360 and Windows . . . for a while." Lol.

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jackdoe - 569 days 21 hours ago

So, wait. Does that mean that future printings of the Bioshock 360 box would remove that Only On logo?

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Ri0tSquad - 569 days 20 hours ago

If the new 360 copies still have it on there then it would false advertising.

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jadenkorri - 569 days 19 hours ago

thats usually what happens, but really their is so many more people who would buy the game if it released same time, timed delays are f'in retarded, the games long over due, graphics have improved since the delay, so theres no point in doing multi-platform after the fact, espically more than a year apart... The game at that point is old and has to be made the same, cause then people would complain about buying it again... additionally less people will be aware that its on the ps3/360 thinking its exclusive to one...And then the fanboys rip it apart cause it "didn't sell good" on the console a year later...I agree with first party game, like mario and zelda for nintendo and god of war for sony, i can't think of any 360 first party games, i would think Halo, but thats bungie not MS...anyways it don;t matter....I personally would like to see all games go multi-platform, and let consumers decide what they want to play it on... I really despise devs who reach for the biggest wallet like Namco, which almost every games has gone to 360 exclusive...

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Breakfast - 569 days 21 hours ago

multi-console is the way to go :) ...then you dont have to wait.

Edit: @ Below

I see youve got it all mapped out...lol. Well the best of luck then :)

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omodis420 - 569 days 21 hours ago

I agree. I have nothing against 360. I just can't afford to buy that many games. I bought Xbox 1 a year and a half ago. I stopped playing PS2 except for God of War 2. I bought Elder Scrolls: Morrowind, Halo, Doom 3 and a ton of other stuff. It worked out good. I played the heck out of it. So that is my plan again. Plus there are just to many good PS3 exclusive's coming down the line that are must buys for me.

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tethered - 569 days 21 hours ago

Yes, multi-console is the way to go. I have PS3 and 360.
Now I just want to see the 360 have free online play. Then I have a reason to turn my 360 on.

I've been playing a lot of online games lately and they are all on the PS3 because I never paid the $50 a year to play the 360 online.

Microsoft really needs to fix this mess because they will be left in the dust once the PS3 has in game chat and in game music. I really hope Sony doesn't decide to go the way of Microsoft and start to charge for online.

Time will tell.

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jackdoe - 569 days 21 hours ago

Lol. With all the bad press, would a multiplatform shift help it at all? I mean, the general consensus is that Haze is mediocre. Much like Blacksite which came out on the PS3 after a delay, no one bought it because of all the bad press when the 360 version hit months earlier.

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TheExecutive - 569 days 20 hours ago

Well yeah it would help. It would be really easy to make a 360 port. Had it been the other way around it would be a much more difficult question. Haze will come to the 360 and with some new "bells and whistles" to try to sell more copies.

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jadenkorri - 569 days 19 hours ago

Haze om ps3 is mediocre...great that fine
if Ubi wanted to port it to 360, im all for it, but if they add new things and make the game great on 360...don;t think of achievements...but gameplay wise, whether single or multi
they would have to release that to the ps3 consumers cause people who bought it for ps3 would be pissed off (i know i would be) if the 360 version had features that the ps3 didn't.... a patch would be easy, but just saying if they didn't

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TheExecutive - 569 days 19 hours ago

lol, well they cant make Haze great but they would tout the new "bells and whistles" as great and awesome to produce as much hype again as possible.

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jadenkorri - 569 days 8 hours ago

but if i owned it on ps3 and the 360 got the game later on and was better graphically and the what not, i would be pissed... I was disappointed about GTA4 with the 360 exclusivity, but after playing the game, im kinda glad, it didn't live up to the GTA i was expecting..but theirs still gonna be GTA 4 Vice City and San Andreas type expansions on both consoles, 360 just gets an additional story or two...maybe different cities and whatnot...we'll have to wait as everyone is still unclear on what it is..

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tuaamin13 - 568 days 23 hours ago

It's $39.99 next week at Bestbuy and Circuit City, along with Assassin's Creed (which has been out considerably longer). [sale price listings on CAG]

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pwnmaster3000 - 569 days 21 hours ago

bro stfu imean foreal dont u feel srry for them imean they bought a useless deffective console with no real exclusive.

oh well fuk it mass effect you nxt, then tales, then dead rising, then left 4 dead.

you can keep that gray of wars 2 we dont want that piece of shiit you call a game

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Ogrekiller - 569 days 20 hours ago

this comment was made by the ps3 developer rite?
So go back to winning that darwin award, jerkwad

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thewhoopimen - 569 days 19 hours ago

THWIP if most of the exclusives are going multiplat, I want the manufacturer with 16 private studios working for the console.

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juuken - 569 days 18 hours ago

THWIP...um...what?

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n00bPwner - 569 days 18 hours ago

are you f*cking retarded? No exclusives? why, because 360 lost ONE game? do I really have to list all the "exclusives" sony lost this gen? god damn, you're dumb.

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juuken - 569 days 17 hours ago

n00b, the 360 lost more than one game?

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PopEmUp - 569 days 13 hours ago

you do know noobpower call himself a noob so you would know what he is a noob he always comment something that bite his tale at the end

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Grown Folks Talk - 569 days 8 hours ago

who stole the black people?

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juuken - 569 days 6 hours ago

Lol, of course PopEmUp. He made his n00biness known.

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pimpstation - 569 days 6 hours ago

Bioshock is much bigger than any exclusive the PS3 lost. PS3 lost some mediocre games like Assassin's Creed and Virtua Fighter. GTA was never exclusive to PS3, though the best version is. 360 would have to get something like Uncharted or MGS4 to make up for Bioshock.

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n00bPwner - 569 days 5 hours ago

WRONG.

GTA4 counts (better version in HD). DMC, VF with online, Ass Crap (with better graphics), etc. etc.

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caffman - 569 days 15 hours ago

if you think that then...well girly you have a lot to learn about the world.
And going back to a previous comment, I seen to remember Sony droids acting like the world was ending and sending off petitions when GTA went multiplatform

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juuken - 569 days 15 hours ago

...Sure.
Sony can trusted enough to deliver an excellent console that doesn't break within a month.
And could you link where there were petitions going around? You xbabies love talking from your asses, don't ya? You don't provide a link and you expect me to take you seriously?
And don't call me girly.

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testerg35 - 569 days 12 hours ago

Not sure if there was a petition for GTA4, but there was one for DMC4. PS3 fans cried like crazy as soon as they learned that DMC4 was also coming to the 360.

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juuken - 569 days 6 hours ago

Aww, we did?
Hey, you guys can have DMC4 but you won't be getting 5. I bet it stays on the PS3. xD

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Wildarmsjecht - 569 days 11 hours ago

Sucks that developers have to go through 3 360 test consoles every time they make a game for it.

See? I can be a effin moron 2.

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peeler fan - 569 days 11 hours ago

well maybe they go through multiple 360s big deal how much do you think it cost 2k to hire and fire all those PS3 programmers? Which is worse, a couple of fried consoles or the frustration, fallout, and large expense of hiring and firing PS3 programmers.

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Wildarmsjecht - 569 days 7 hours ago

Oh yes. Because they know for a fact that no one is going to continue buying a system that breaks so much. Do you hear yourself? You;re ok with ur system being broken. Just shut up. you're done.

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etownone - 569 days 6 hours ago

"goooo ps3 i love you. "

?!?WTF??! i know this site is over run by sonydroids, but you sir take the cake.

you really really really need to get out the house!

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