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Microsoft explains "theGAYERgamer" name ban

Eurogamer reports: "Xbox Live "banhammer wielder" Stephen Toulouse has explained the decision behind banning "theGAYERgamer" Gamertag.
Toulouse and his team deemed the name to contain sexual innuendo, which is against the Gamertag terms of use. They were not, apparently, swayed by the weight of complaints from what the "theGAYERgamer" said can be an anti-homosexual audience."
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Saint Sony - 586 days 2 hours ago
1 - MS did right thing
If you are gay does it mean you have to yell it out loud and be idiot with your gamer tag?..seems so.
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ry-guy - 586 days 1 hour ago
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This is a sound decision.

I also agree with St. Sony. I don't care what your sexual preference or background is but I really hate it when people have to throw it in your face.

Come on man, that is your buisness. Not mine.
1.2 socsca | 585 days 23 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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Saint Sony - 585 days 23 hours ago
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You have to be idiot to think "gay" word does not bother anyone in anyway in this hypocrite world of us. Using it is like asking from people, KICK ME! If you want to go all rebel and ballistic about it, then USE the damn word and see what happens. It is like fighting against windmills.

I have nothing against gay people, but at least I know if it is smart to use certain words in gamertags.

"It's a word to describe the sexual preference of someone, nothing else. "
..and that makes great gamertag?
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rroded - 585 days 22 hours ago
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just when we thought they couldnt sink any lower

Still considering their audience is mostly a bunch of homophobic ignorant hicks like the most of the poster here. I guess they had no choice.

ps if you think thegayergamer is a sexually charged name you need to get out more. Maybe a nice gay bar..
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neonchez - 585 days 21 hours ago
1.5 - @saint sony
a better(and more respectable)option for MS would have been to ban all the homophobes form Live. instead of banning the guy who was just on Live to play games,who happens to gay, MS should have banned all the ppl yelling offensive slurs at him.

i agree w/ socsca, if MS wanted to clean up sexually explicit names form Live they would also ban names involving banging someones mom or tea bagging.

@ry-guy
i don't think the name theGAYgamer is "throwing it in your face". if he called himself "I_suck_cock" or "inMYass" then, yes, that would a bit over the top.

if he can't use theGAYgamer than ppl sould not be allowed to use any name that describes any personal preference. Jello_sucks, can't use it, you might offend the jello lovers on live. theCHRISTIANgamer, can't use it, you might offend all the non-christian members of Live. what about I_Like_Pie, you could offend all the Live members that prefer cake.

Ppl need to get over themselves.
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tordavis - 585 days 20 hours ago
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So wait, if my gamertag was 'theHeterosexualgamer' I would be banned? Or even better, if it was "theHappygamer" I would be banned?

gay Audio Help /geɪ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[gey] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, -er, -est, noun, adverb
–adjective
1. having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music.
2. bright or showy: gay colors; gay ornaments.
3. given to or abounding in social or other pleasures: a gay social season.
4. licentious; dissipated; wanton: The baron is a gay old rogue with an eye for the ladies.
5. homosexual.
6. of, indicating, or supporting homosexual interests or issues: a gay organization.
–noun
7. a homosexual person, esp. a male.
–adverb
8. in a gay manner.
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leeger - 586 days 1 hour ago
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so the word "gay" is malicious? I rather ban a person with a gametag, "I_will_kill_u" than gamer tags that contain the word "gay".
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Richdad - 586 days 1 hour ago
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Kill goes in joke but does sexual term like Gay goes. Also these homosexual cults are getting more mannerless day by day.
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ZombiesNJ - 586 days ago
2.2 - wow....
you stole my avatar...lol
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tristefish - 585 days 22 hours ago
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A cult? Sounds as if a dictionary could be useful here.
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Tmac - 585 days 16 hours ago
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Gay Cult? Stop watching Fox News and go outside.
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Sangria - 586 days 1 hour ago
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Does that mean if you have the gamertag "heterogamer", you will be banned?
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leeger - 586 days 1 hour ago
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and also straightmalegamer will be banned
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Ngai - 586 days 1 hour ago
5 - tag this:
Gaymer!
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poeo - 586 days 1 hour ago
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how is "gay" such a scary word to many? i don't get it.
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leeger - 585 days 22 hours ago
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you have disagrees! hahahaha they are prolly homophobs
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Tmac - 585 days 16 hours ago
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Yeah seriously, homophobes galore. Do none of you know a gay person? Or even friends with one? Their normal people apart from their sexual preference.
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SL1M DADDY - 586 days ago
7 - I've seen worse...
I have seen some pretty offensive gamer tags and this is not one of them...
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Havince - 586 days ago
8 - how about
they just asked him to change his gamertag name
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Bubble and Squeek - 586 days ago
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"Keep your Sexual Preference to yourself "
/quote

(I am assuming you are male. If I am wrong, apologies, and flip the gendered pronouns etc)

So you...
Would never comment about how nice members of the opposite sex look? Wouldn't hold your partners hand, at all?
Wouldn't engage in any affectionate behaviour, no matter how modest, if there was a chance others might see?
Would never say who you are going out with, engaged to, marry?
Mention your girlfriend, fiancee or wife in conversation?
Nor wear engagement/wedding ring?

I could go on. But I hope you are catching my drift.

It is unreasonable the expect homosexuals never to mention the fact. It is also inconsistent since heterosexuals don't have to live with such strictures (indeed, I could make the case the opposite is true), and in all likelyhood you would find such a request unreasonable if applied to you (and so you should).

The idea that homosexuals should be make it know they are gay is a silly homophobic arguement made by homophobes who realise their homophobia is unreasonable.
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Dareaver1 - 585 days 23 hours ago
9.2 - I'm curious, bubbles....
have you read the article. it clearly states that if the name was straightgamer or heterogamer, they would be asked to change it.

And that is what happened, this gamer was asked to change it.

The problem is that we live in a society where people are hyper sensitive. And we also have kids that play on XBox live that might not understand, and parents ill equiped to explain what the name might mean or why that person used that name.

Microsoft did the right thing, and just to do just a general ban or request to change. That way you cover all ground.

The world we live in isn't rosey and acceptable as we would like it to be. Too many people are easily offended and don't like things in their face.

Look at parents that can't use their parental contols or the ESRB ratings to buy games for their kids. What do they do...? They try to get things changed for the masses instead of controlling what goes on in their own home. People are irresponsible and that is not going to change any time soon.
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Bubble and Squeek - 585 days 23 hours ago
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Sorry, I wasn't commenting on the article. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Just reacting to the idea that homosexuals should keep their sexuality to themselves.

In regards to the article. I don't agree with the ban.

If parents was to cosset their children. That is fine. But buying them a console and letting them connect to the internet unsupervised (because I am skeptical that an unsupervised child would last ten seconds before the lead was yanked from the wall).

Also "theGAYERgamer" is not "innuendo." It is fairly up front and honest. "gaymer" could be contrued as innuendo I suppose.

Similarly theGAYERgamer is not covered by the ruling on "Racism, hate speech, bigotry, homophobia." And I hope you forgive my skepticism if I think names that are openly or covertly heterosexual are banned.

However. I don't care to much. I was mainly replying to the idea that gay people should STFU with regards to their sexuality.

Though I do find it hard that (according to Microsoft and a few others) there are people who are worried little Bobby might find out some boys like kissing boys when he should be blowing someone's face with a shotgun.

It does seem like an odd choice of priorities to me.
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tristefish - 585 days 22 hours ago
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Very well said, Bubble.

People seem to something very similar to "Don't throw your sexuality in my face." But it seems like everyone's straight sexuality is thrown in my face on gamer sites all day long. Take the article Playboy Cyber Girl of the Year Is A True Player which is a few stories down from this one. I wonder why no one is raging in the comment section of that story? Because, according many gamer's views, it's ok to talk about how much you love the opposite sex. But once it becomes a man talking about how hot, say, CliffyB is then it becomes throwing your sexuality in my face. It's fine to say sexuality should not be thrown about, but this site, and a large amount of gamers, do. It just happens to be ok as long as it's their sexuality.
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Bubble and Squeek - 585 days 21 hours ago
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And let's not start on the ridiculous avatars some people use :-)

In all seriousness though. I'm glad some one can see it that way.

I suppose the very least I am asking for is that a person thinks about what they are asking when they ask a marginalised group to do something to help him pretend everyone is a white heterosexual male and to ignore the actual reality.

I'm very much of the opinion that if someone cannot handle the idea of boys kissing or girls kissing or women having an opinion or ethnic minorities having the vote, then they need to grow the f**k up. And not expect the rest of society to cosset them and pretend none of those things exist. They need to face reality, not run away...

Especially with regards to children. It is probably healthy for them (and society) to learn that there are many permutations to human relationship. After all there is a high chance Bobby won't fit nicely into the heterosexual pigeon hole created for him.

When did love become a bad thing?

But I am amused by the many posters claiming that if they happened upon theGAYERgamer online, their first thought would "that guy's a homophobe."

(Additionally, I realise that my previous posts might have mistakes in them. Hopefully this on is ok, but the previous ones were done in a bit of a rush)
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proArchy - 585 days 16 hours ago
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Bubble and Squeek you get bubbles!
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Havince - 586 days ago
10 - it is snide tho isnt it
i mean, if he/she WAS gay thats a terrible thing to do iv seen allsorts or horrid racial names online
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timmyrulz - 586 days ago
11 - @michael Jackson
Tell my Wife (who is from the Seychelles) and my two half cast children that im racist, where as you my friend is posing as a peodo so i think it is you my child fiddling friend who is the ahole
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Michael Jackson - 585 days 18 hours ago
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considering you said n*gger and muslim suicide bomber... nope, i have no reason to think that you're a racist.. wow, you have kids..? that is just really sad... a married man who posts racist comments on the forums.. what a loser you must be...
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Tmac - 585 days 16 hours ago
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Timmy, no one believes you are over the age of 11 on this website.
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nanometric - 586 days ago
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Last time I checked(and it was a moment ago to make sure :D) "gay" also means happy or "gayer"- happier, doesn't it? So how MS can purposely interpret it as sexual, does it mean they are homophobic? :D
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Philip J Fry - 585 days 23 hours ago
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Granted, there could be an argument that the text is not pejorative to homosexuality and should therefore be allowed. But there is no context to explain that," explained Stephen "Stepto" Toulouse
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ZombiesNJ - 586 days ago
13 - MS banned my gamertag a while back after i had it for 6 months...
it was FetusOnFajitas....strange...bu t how did that violate their terms of agreement?
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Saint Sony - 585 days 23 hours ago
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Hmm... well maybe in some countries FetusOnFajitas is a delicacy, but I think most people would consider that gamer tag a bit controversial, even cannibalistic if you can't see the animal side of it.

..*shrugs*
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Michael Jackson - 585 days 18 hours ago
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FetusOnFajitas?? that was you?? you tricked me! you said you were a 12 year old boy! hmph!
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u got owned - 585 days 17 hours ago
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well said...
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Turbo Teddy - 586 days ago
15 - this is just an
example of Microsoft's and the US fear of offending their audience. Gay is just a term for a sexual preference like straight. Dont see why he should be banned for that, and he should have a free right to call him self what he wants. isn´t that what the bush administration is bombing the hell out of iraq because they didn´t ? what an irony! (and by that I assume that everything happend in the US)
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m-s-8-2 - 585 days 23 hours ago
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Im not entirely sure, but id be willing to bet MS has some kind of naming policy in place for Xbox live. In that case, you have no rights other than what Microsoft allows you to have.
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Qbanboi - 585 days 23 hours ago
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Lol, he just was a HAPPY gamer, but instead he got his a$$ banned. ^^ Ironi
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Maddens Raiders - 585 days 22 hours ago
17 - Pathetic, pathetic -
reaction and explanation on the part of Redmond.

I wish I was that gamer, because someone's about to get a lot more rich.
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sak500 - 585 days 21 hours ago
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LOL@ Madden since when did u want to become gay? I know money is important but changing ones lifestyle nah..
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akaFullMetal - 585 days 21 hours ago
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don't you people get it, homosexuality is a touchy subject, it has for the last 50 years or so, just like religion. People die over religion just like over homosexuality, alot of people hate it, and you can call it whatever you like, but a good majority don't support homosexuality. So for Microsoft to avoid a huge homosexuality beating on LIVE, they are now banning such names in order to stop the harrasment towards gays. Everybody knows homosexuality is just a touchy thing, i mean look at this, people are calling others homophobes and other things just because they dont agree with their views, this just proves my point how this is a hard issue to deal with and microsoft did it the best way they could, so calm down.
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Blackcanary - 585 days 20 hours ago
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I think this is one of thye stupidist things MS have done and if i was him i sue there ass for being band for fact that he used a name that express what he is and theres nothing wrong with that. His name tag having gay init is not shoveing what he is in anyones face now if he started saying useing game chat what he likes to do sexually then that would be understandable what happend to being treated like an equal.
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proArchy - 585 days 16 hours ago
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What a steaming bucket full of PR crap!! I'm positive that in the same terms of service that says sexual innuendo isn't allowed in a gamertag it ALSO states that references to drugs/drug use isn't allowed either. Now how many times have you been shot in the face by "WeedSmoker420", "bongSnaps", or "IheartLSD"? Why haven't these been reported and banned? Pot is illegal, no ban. Homosexuality not illegal, ban it. You make no sense Microsoft. Fire the idiot responsible for this PR and hire someone who can lie properly.
If you have EVER been gaming online you KNOW that any name including the word gay is going to grab you all manner of negative attention. I don't have any problems with gay people, and i think that you should be proud of whoever and whatever you are. I'll go right ahead and say it though. This gamer knew what he was doing, he was trolling for a fight. This name was banned to avoid the nonstop thousand gamer grief that "theGAYERgamer" would be getting. In other words, Microsoft thinks it was for his own good. Yes Microsoft thinks they know how to protect us from the big bad world, which is the saddest thing of all.
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