Gears of War 2 vs. Killzone 2

decapitator - 591 days ago

KZ2 vs Gears ? I lol'ed. Killzone 2 will have the upper hand here because its still in development and by the time Gears 2 launches, it will still be worked on.

Gears looks great but the wow visuals it had with its first debut is not there this time around. With that said, it still looks pretty good. Can't reinvent the wheel everytime.

EDIT: Man, I can't believe they used that gameplay video of KZ2 when there are better ones.

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Monchichi025 - 590 days 23 hours ago

Of course KillZone has the better Graphics! Anybody outside of a hardcore Xbox fan will admit that.

But gameplay wise, it is Gears hands down. That is why it the original was Game of the Year. Gears is Something truly Special!

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OrignalGoatseGuy - 590 days 23 hours ago

I guess this is where we all are supposed to pretend this is some sort of neck and neck race between the PS3 and the 360 to prove how reasonable we all are.

Let's drop the BS and be honest.

Killzone 2 is running with in game graphics and gameplay that was almost universally proclaimed was not going to be possible until the PS4. Side by side comparisons with the original 05 E3 trailer show Killzone 2 currently looks even better in many areas especially the staggeringly good player's gun modeling, material, and lighting.

Killzone 2 has so far shown gigantic levels with insane amounts of stuff going on, unprecedented animation quality and detail, environment destructibility of amazing scope and detail, and finally the single greatest lighting model ever in video game. No other console video game has the same type of deferred renderer lighting engine Guerilla Games have written on the PS3.

Gears of War is just another Doom 3 era 'shiny normal maps everywhere' engine where the gameplay essentially is all down tiny confined corridors or constrained spaces to limit the amount of stuff on the screen. The draw distances are absurdly short with everything outside the immediate foreground blurred out.

The UE3 engine is still based on the Doom 3 gimmick of faking geometry detail with material level effects. So you end up with that same boxy looking characters that everyone complains about when they see yet another UE3 game's characters because they are so low poly.

Due to the silly 10 megs of edram design of the 360, there will never be a game that can run an engine like Killzone 2's due to the fact that it requires way more render buffers than can fit at one time. The 360 has trouble enough just getting decent AA for framebuffers larger than 480p.

It is hilarious to hear 360 fans tying to rip on Killzone 2's textures - in other words everything in Killzone 2 isn't cover in 'bumpy shiny normal maps'.

Thank god.

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permutated - 590 days 23 hours ago

I have no words, Killzone 2 is a completely by the books shooter with a glossy edge.

Same thing with the first Killzone, which was garbage! If you look at the hype of the first one, it followed the same trail as this sequel is.

For the record: the graphics in Killzone 2 are insanely good, but the AI looks absolutely retarded and mindless, and the level design isn't anything to write home about.

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MisfitSmurf - 590 days 23 hours ago

both games look great, though killzone does look alot better. This reminds me O: i need to send in my 360 for repairs

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Rick Astley - 590 days 23 hours ago

Epic post Goatse. Everybody give this guy a bubble.

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sonarus - 590 days 23 hours ago

This comparison is stupid. A cam feed vs a 720p video

I think people should stop judging guerilla so much on their past endeavors. Sure KZ1 wasn't so hot and neither was shell shock but none of those titles are receiving as much care as killzone 2. I just hope GG is into some innovation. I hope they plan to try some new things to make them stand out in the over crowded shooter market.

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gall0t671 - 590 days 22 hours ago

yeah its stupid. there is no reason to even argue over these 2 games.
both games look to be pure amazing. but dam guerilla stop delaying killzone2!!!! haha. but like sonarus keeps saying im just hoping there is something innovative in k2. because there are way to many fps which is making the genre hard to succeed in. but by graphics alone WHOA! to bad not til feb 09.
but gears2 looks to be full on WAR just hopefully they do more with that 100 locusts on screen thing. cuz its ok in that video but in the rest of the game if its just like 30 locusts but you dont have no real interaction with them then thats gonna kind of suck. but it should still be badass.
both games are gonna be epic. as mgs4 is. 29 days left. and ng2. freak man im gonna be broke.

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MrAnonymous - 590 days 22 hours ago

you cant compare a first person shooters graphics to a 3rd person shooter graphics, the way the model objects, props, and other stuff is obviously going to be different

for a first person shooter type game, obviously they are going to make the graphics much better because you see things more closely (ie your gun, and the environment) whereas when its 3rd person, you see things as a whole and wont need to put as much detail in objects as you would in a first person shooter game

why bother putting in as much detail in a gun for a 3rd person shooter game as you would in a first person shooter when you wont be close enough to see it, game designers would just be wasting memory that they could put to use else where

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scottie2521 - 590 days 21 hours ago

it's hard to compare a 1st person shooter with a 3rd person shooter. it would be better to compare Gears 2 with MGS4.

MSG4 would still kick the sh!t out of Gears but i think it would be a fairer comparison. this wasn't even close and thats with a bad KZ2 video.

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snyper831 - 590 days 18 hours ago

originalgoatseguy you may be right by saying killzone2 looks better but not by much also you sound like you work for sony or something but got no idea how games are develop you can tell by your statements, they are stupid and make no sense. Lets just hope killzone2 gets release on 2009 and the game looks and plays as promised cause me as a gamer im tired of all the lies and bull $^%$ sony has come with dont u agree?? Just get this on your mind The ps3 aint as powerfull as sony said it would be, to me they are about the same wich is surprising cause the 360 came out a year earlier dont you think????? Just look at all the multiplatform games most look and play better on the 360 yea i know you might be saying how about killzone2?? well that game has been delay forever so who knows and by the way the first one sucked i dont got big hopes for the sequel.Instead i will be playing gta4 on my 360 in the mean time enjoy your bluray player and pray your game finally comes out........

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Mike134nl - 590 days 14 hours ago

Totally agree Killzone will be graphic wise superiour than Gears of war. You got to love the Duth people :)

Though there is a large difference in development time, with gears of war having a much smaller one, not expecting any delays.

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Lifendz - 590 days 11 hours ago

it's KZ2 by a lot. Gears is not ugly, but with all the blurry effects and the greyness it just doesn't hold up to KZ2.

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ryuyasho - 590 days 7 hours ago

smell money being shoved into Gears Devs arses to rush this game, cause MSh!t smells like scared doo doo. I saw the Gears vid and thought "Hmmm, Gears 1.2 maybe, same Sh!t like the first". On the other hand, KZ2, even in a camcorder footage---->HELLO!!!, looks better and more exciting the Gears. Gears Devs should be ashame of themselves. I said this before... "Slow pace, STRONG FOUNDATION".

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AuToFiRE - 590 days 7 hours ago

WEll his statements all sounded ok to me, i dont know how they didnt make sense to you, but the one thing you do not understand about the release dates is that M$ released the 360 for christmas, leaving the most famous bug of all, RRoD, Sony was correct in keeping theirs in development for another year to eliminate any crippling bugs, so right there that tells you M$ is only about money, not customer satisfaction, id rather wait for a year to get a better console than one that has been hastily pushed onto the market to get a buck(just like all the games they pushed out, look now, no games this year for the 360). so take your fanboy mind and go somewhere else

Killzone is a dead winner in this both games look great but ina wya GoW looks .. well.. the same

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masterg - 590 days 4 hours ago

All I can say is that both look stunning and I'm buying both on day one.

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JBaby343 - 590 days 2 hours ago

For him being so wrong as you say you certainly don't provide any evidence to the contrary. Exactly what in his post was incorrect? All you did was sound like a disgruntled MS employee. Tell us what in his post was not true. Back it up instead of just smearing Sony with nothing but opinions about lies.

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ShinGino - 590 days ago

Here's 720p gameplay footage!

http://www.gamersyde.com/st...

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permutated - 590 days 23 hours ago

Considering how good Gears (1) gameplay was, and how awful Killzone's (1) gameplay was, I think it's safe to say that unless Guerrilla pulls a miracle they'll fall into the same trap they did the first time:

Killzone (1):

+Great graphics
+Great models
+Great explosions

-Awful shooting mechanics
-Terrible A.I.
-Repetitive, useless levels.

(Look familiar?)

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decapitator - 590 days 23 hours ago

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It will be good though...am sure. If anything, I know the AI will be superb seeing as how they have just hired a mastermind behind many successful games:

http://aigamedev.com/site/2...

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beavis4play - 590 days 20 hours ago

kinda like your posts. the first one sucks and sure enough, the rest suck just as much. i guess you forgot gears lack of story, poor level design, too many "on rails shooting" segments, boring weapons(except for the chainsaw!), multi-player glitches and very weak final level. oh, and even with the chainsaw- there was no strategy involved in using it. just attack and hope it hits.(that's good gameplay?) i could critique it even further if you'd like to continue this.

and with KZ2- i didn't think KZ1 was that bad. i love the story the KZ universe has going. but, it (KZ1) has no influence on quality(or lack thereof)of KZ2. clearly it looks much better than KZ1 or gears2.

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permutated - 590 days 16 hours ago

Oh I get it, harass me because you're not secure enough with yourself to actually just voice your opinion.

Great, really mature.

Fact is, no matter how many problems Gears (1) had (and it did have very many), it wasn't nearly the level of garbage that Killzone (1) turned out to be after all that "Halo killer" BS hype that hid the fact that it was an underdeveloped game.

Sooooooooooooooooo there that is.

I guess my point is that I'm excited for Killzone 2 but I'm also being very cautious at the same time because the first was such a letdown in comparison to other games on the PS2 and the Xbox.

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Lifendz - 590 days 11 hours ago

video of KZ2 possible? KZ2 was still superior.

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permutated - 590 days 16 hours ago

Definitely.

Just looking forward to Gears 2 more because I didn't enjoy the first Killzone at all. But Killzone 2 looks amazing on a technical level.

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Evil Rant Monkey - 591 days ago

<GeoW and GeoW2 are both for the 360. If you're trying to tell me that the improvement from KZ1 to KZ2 is far superior, you sir are a fewl!)

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Whoooop - 591 days ago

You have a point there, but KZ2(first this gen) is looking much better than GeOW2(second this gen), so imaging how good KZ3 will look if they develop it, compared to Gears2.

:)

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Gam71 - 590 days 23 hours ago

How about comparing KZ3 to GoW3 instead of GoW2.

That comment was stupid.

Thats like saying imagine how good GoW3 will look compared to KZ2

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devilhunterx - 590 days 23 hours ago

KZ2 will still look better then Gears3.

Keep dreaming. UE 3.5 is old news now.

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Whoooop - 590 days 21 hours ago

Don't be stupid and learn to comprehend...

I was replying to Evil who said that it's stupid to compare improvements between sequels when the original KZ was developed in the PS2. So it's obvious that KZ2 will improve much more, compared to the visually improvements between gears 1 and 2 which are minimal.

Now... Please read carefully so you don't make a fool out of yourself.

If KZ3 is developed it will be the "SECOND" game "THIS" generation and the second game developed on the PS3. Forget about KZ1 which was made on another generation engine.

Gears 1 was developed this gen on the xbox 360 and Gears 2 will the second this generation.

KZ2 looks better than gears 2 and it's the first game developed by GG for the PS3.

If you don't get it after this, you should seek gaming help.

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Gam71 - 590 days 7 hours ago

I read your original comment again whoop and I got the gist of it correctly.

Stop trying to spin it a different way now I found a flaw in your argument.

Did I say that slowly enough for you.
If only I could write in in crayon for you.

And as a side point yes tis is the second game on this gen for GoW but kz2 has been in development for years to get where it is now. It should look good if they've spent all that time on it, delaying it.

But thats probably over your head as well.

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kingOVsticks - 590 days 22 hours ago

well I thought even though they did it that way it was still obvious that KZ2 raped gears in graphics I think there trying to gain back their little to non "un bias" comparison and reviewing credibility with the video.

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socomnick - 591 days ago

What and the generic characters in killzone are better ? I dont even know who the main protagonist is.

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Fishy Fingers - 591 days ago

Seb has a Mohawk.

http://ps3.psu.com/screensh... < one on the left. Now you know.

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Rick Astley - 591 days ago

And that just proves you only own a 360. The protagonist is Sev. Dude with the mohawk.

Every 360 game that uses the Unreal Engine 3 has generic character design. That's why it's so difficult to tell them apart. No originality, no style.

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Honolulu - 590 days 23 hours ago

I like the charaters we've seen so far from kz2, they look really original compared to most other characters from similar games, imo.
Most of them look like drunken-veteran-hobos who've been dragged into a war against their will a second time around, it's awesome :)
especially mr-fücking-conwoy, he looks like he hasn't taken a shower in a while, dirty nails and all.

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The Closing - 590 days 22 hours ago

I think both games will be great, but the art style for Killzone 2 is far superior. I'll take the graphic looking characters over complete meat heads. Killzone 2's art, and graphics are matched by none, but I obviously need to play it before I can tell how good the game play is, which so far it looks great. While Gears still holds the most fun game play yet in a multiplayer setting, and the second should be just as fun if not more so.

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Rock Bottom - 590 days 18 hours ago

I don't think gears have a bad character design, I actually love the way they looks. Still it's not even close to Killzone's helghasts, those guys are bad ass. :P

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Deadman64 - 590 days 23 hours ago

alex is that you, you fanboy?? haha still dont have a life i see!

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TheSadTruth - 590 days 23 hours ago

smaller sites are starting to learn how to get massive hits, simply make a comparison video of PS3/Xbox360 and submit it to n4g and all the nerds come out to cry and brag

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Sir Ken Kutaragi - 590 days 23 hours ago

Killzone 1 Vs Gears 2!!! Ooooops!!! ;-D
QUICK!!! Cash in that Cheque from Micro$oft!!! ;-D

Killzone 2 looks REAL!!! ;-P

Gears 2 looks a bit N64'ish!!! ;-D

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atcsharp - 590 days 22 hours ago

Its better and it wont be delayed 3 years.

W A I T B E Y O N D (or watch movies)

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Pain - 590 days 21 hours ago

What!!!???? A game on OLDER inferior Hardware running off DVD9 More or less a 4th "Next-gen" Game
from Epic Has to be Beter!!!I

Its not Possible to be less then a Game Made on that 'Im sooooo Jelus of True Next-Gen Made with Super Hardware Blu-ray made from ground up with Real tallent 1st Next gen developed game from In house group Cant be beter.... Like those Screen shoots must be fake....

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t-0_ot- - 590 days 17 hours ago

Isn't that obvious.. He agreed with himself 18 times...

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ShinGino - 590 days ago

Killzone 2 in 720p
http://www.gamersyde.com/st...

And Resistance 2 is looking really good too.

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SUP3R - 591 days ago

alex/wulan/shadow_hearts/zimbo /nasim/etc.

you just blatantly used your two accounts back to back in the same article

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Homicide - 591 days ago

Gears of War 2 looks like sh1t compared to Killzone 2.

Killzone 2 > Gears of War 2 in terms of graphics.

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Gam71 - 590 days 23 hours ago

Sup3r she's trying to prove she doesn't have multiple accounts but it bit her in her arse.

Well spotted

Edit: the word glory?

What the hell are you talking about?
You're so close to going completely CooCoo DooDoo.

:)

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t-0_ot- - 590 days 17 hours ago

Wulan - "hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Others this is X360 killer KZ2 at 720P glory "

There ya go, Shmee, Nasim, AlexM, Wulan, Shadown_Hearts and what ever other name you use nowadays...

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Twist96 - 590 days 13 hours ago

Because it's not in detail, i.e direct-feed video, we cannot hold Killzone 2 up to scurtiny. In fact in some of the screens the textures are blurry, and imo a lot is held over from the killzone 1 in terms of gameplay.

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mightydog01 - 590 days 8 hours ago

killzone 2 gfx is in another league miles ahead of gears....You must be blind fouls to not notice it, both will be great games in there own right.But gfx killzone rules, THE END

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Whoooop - 591 days ago

Gears will look good, but it won't look better or more realistic than KZ2... sorry

:(

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Tmac - 591 days ago

Power of green going all delusional again, oh well. Some one call the psychiatric ward, we got a schizo.

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MisfitSmurf - 590 days 23 hours ago

shhhhh quit crying :/ killzone 2 looks better just admit it. instead you keep coming up with excuse after excuse. Boo hoo

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Dacapn - 590 days 20 hours ago

What game wouldn't shine if all the system had to render is small confined spaces? I dunno if that's a testament to your stupidity or the limitations of the 360.

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Alpha_Gamer - 590 days 19 hours ago

not one that was well thought out. But I guess with an outnumber of 5 to 1 against 360 fans, who needs a good response???

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yesah - 590 days 4 hours ago

rofl, how much smaller do you want it? They were on a tiny ship with like 8 people.

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captainjy - 590 days 2 hours ago

Pull ahead? Oh what? If anyone in here truly and honestly believes that Killzone 2 is better looking than Gears 2, they need to cut their balls off because Killzone 2 looks just like COD 4 with slightly better graphics. Everything from the rifle to the melee, it's a COD 4 clone.

The only reason why the Phonyites are touting Killzone 2 as the Gears 2 killer is because they are hard up for any game, just one game to outsell the 360 and it's a pathetic attempt. Epic will fine tune the gameplay, AI and graphics, especially since we have quite a ways until it's released so stop jerking everyone off and quit the stupid ass comparisons because you are comparing raisins (Killzone) to grapes (Gears 2) and you only have 2 somewhat decent sellers on the POS3. That's pretty sad. But hey, you have Cricketville, I mean PSN, Dome is coming, I mean Home and you have lots of movies to watch in HD!

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Shadow Flare - 591 days ago

"I am the GOD of this industry"

i think a certain Sir Ken Kuturagi may have something to say about that lol. Love reading your comments man

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Evil Rant Monkey - 591 days ago

<The only thing you're god of is sausage scarfing!)

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Rick Astley - 591 days ago

Unreal Tournament 3 looks better than Gears 2.

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dem0n - 590 days 14 hours ago

Astley, you're an idiot. Come on, at least say something remotely clever.

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yesah - 590 days 4 hours ago

agree rick. But you need like a super high end TV to see al its glories.

Epic loves UT more, its what made them.

Edit: ace, there are actually some gameplay videos people took with cameras out there.

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Tmac - 591 days ago

How is it tweeked? power of green really is delusional. Both videos are exactly the same. I think he's really losing it.

All your doing is linking us to a smaller res video.

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OJ_juice - 591 days ago

Its the same exact video, dumb*ss.

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RonDeMuerte - 590 days 23 hours ago

Killzone 2 still looks better......and it's cam footage!! hahahahaha....

And change your avatar.....he's not an idiot.....like you.....

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Dacapn - 590 days 20 hours ago

What a moron. That's the same video in smaller res dip$hit. All you're doing is showing that you know the Killzone 2 footage looks better. If you're gonna try play the delusional fanboy part, at least show the Killzone 2 footage from last year haha.

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liquidsnake - 590 days 7 hours ago

loooooool PoG, you just admited that KZ2 looks better. Does "Non PS3 fanboy tweeked video..." ring a bell? You thought the older video was tweeked wich means it looked alot better than Smears only couse a fanboy "tweeked" it. But it's the same damn video muhahaha.

Case closed.

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Kleptic - 590 days 1 hour ago

whats really funny is that everyone keeps talking about the lift in lighting Gears 2 has over the original...and it looks like Quake III's lighting compared to Killzone 2's...

and srsly lol @ the explosions/fire in Gears 2...that is UE3's weakest aspect by far...no light sourcing from explosions...at all...and watch killzone 2 at the beginning of the video where the first explosion goes off...a rolling flame rises up into the smoke, which hangs there considerably longer than most games...not to mention the awesome chunks of concrete flying everywhere...

this isn't even close...you can even see off screen how much better the textures are since last year...the crusty ground reflects light now, and while the guy never really slows down to look at it, you can see how much better the wall textures are now...and they have like 9 months to polish up that little stuff too, but it looks good enough to ship now...

you can be a 360 fanboy all you want...but don't be an idiot...KZ2 is in a whole different league...Gears 2 looks like a UE3 game, which is all it is...most people are still trying to figure out how exactly a PS3 is running KZ2...there is nothing even close to it...

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wAtdaFck - 590 days 23 hours ago

oh my God, the first one was only 4 hours of singleplayer.

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