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Interview: GameTrailers Explains GRID Controversy

There's been a lot of controversy surrounding GameTrailer's comparison video of Race Driver: GRID, which pitted the PlayStation 3 version up against ... um ... the PlayStation 3 version. Is the site horrifically biased? On Microsoft's payroll? Joystiq spoke with GameTrailers Editor In Chief, Shane Satterfield, to clear up the matter.
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Published: 594 days 15 hours ago | Interview | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360 | Industry News
 
 

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1 Blademask | 594 days 15 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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sonarus - 594 days 14 hours ago
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GT is alright. I like GT...leave em alone:(
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rucky - 594 days 14 hours ago
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I like GT too but I just don't trust em when it comes down to comparisons which is a retarded cause it's only a major flamebait if you ask me.
1.3 zapass | 594 days 14 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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Time Lord - 594 days 14 hours ago
1.4 - They site needs to stop posting 360 game box art
underneath every multiplatform game video.
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Fat Bastard - 594 days 13 hours ago
1.5 -
"Why do you hate the PlayStation SO MUCH? How much does Microsoft give you?"

Haha, lmao, that was effin funny. And if it was a mistake, why would one version of the PS3's footage look worse than the other footage? Cause they're a bunch of jackasses, that's why
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Timesplitter14 - 594 days 12 hours ago
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yeah and I don't buy the "was not a games person" crap
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Real Gambler - 594 days 11 hours ago
1.7 - Yet, the best line for this guy was:
"Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a world where people just enjoyed video games regardless of what platform they're released for?"

If true, his web site would just close down. The more hits he get, the more money he make. So how could he honestly say something like that! Everytime there's one pixel difference, he is getting thousand hits. So making sure that a PS3 video look worst than the same PS3 video is a sure way to get hits, no matter what he say. Poor guy.
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UnRivaLeD - 594 days 15 hours ago
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"It blows my mind and saddens me that people took the time to go in and doctor our original piece of media to make us look worse."

Awww i feel for you guys. NOT!!

next time look over your work so this doesnt happen again.. and im not buying this BS

give me bubbles i need it thx =]
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Condoleezza Rice - 594 days 15 hours ago
3 - "It was a mistake in our post-production process. "
And that ^,ladies and gentlemen,is their official damage control.
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niall77 - 594 days 15 hours ago
4 - so it was a "mistake"
I guess not recording PS3 over hdmi was a "mistake" to

and not turning the ps3s RGB on even after you where called out on it is just another "mistake" right?
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season007 - 594 days 13 hours ago
4.1 - yea you know a lot of mistakes can happen
apparently someone who is not interested in gaming AT ALL...applied for a video editing job in a Gaming site...well i say that's a mistake too
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BIoodmask - 594 days 15 hours ago
5 - LOL at the comments...
Yeah it's a conspiracy. The worlds out to get Sony and slander the PS3. Did you not read the interview?

It was a mistake. LOL, some people. Are you hypochondriacs or something? Their 'job' is to cover videogames and nobody is 'perfect'. But your right it must be 'damage control.' Sometimes this website amazes me.

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Tmac - 594 days 14 hours ago
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I concur. Bloodmask ban yourself from the Gamer Zone.
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Odonnus - 594 days 14 hours ago
5.3 - @Bloodmask
The reason so much has been made of this is The history of what looks to be a anti-ps3 slant to many people. Otherwise, you are right this story isn't a story! :D GT kind of brought it on themselves lol
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solidjun5 - 594 days 14 hours ago
5.4 - hey bloodmask
why did you put a picture of yourself and in such a negative light?!?
you amaze me man!
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Condoleezza Rice - 594 days 14 hours ago
5.5 - You seriously need to calm down
First and foremost,if you're going to label people with a different perspective than yours as being retards,then you're not worthy of a mature debate,period.

Secondly and lastly,if it was just a mistake,then why the banning of users?Why the deleting of threads?Why the blocking of emails?Why do they respond to this issue NOW rather than then and there?Where's the new comparison video,seeing as how there was an error in the first one that could surely be corrected?
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DJ - 594 days 14 hours ago
5.6 - Yeah, 20+ comparison vids with the PS3 version purposefully botched
is Not a conspiracy. No way. Only posting Xbox 360 box art of multiplatform games doesn't mean anything either, right?
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Homicide - 594 days 14 hours ago
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Did they even explain why one looked better than the other even though it was from the same version?
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BrianC6234 - 594 days 13 hours ago
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"Are you hypochondriacs or something?"

That's it. We all love faking being sick so the world is out to get Sony. Do you even know what you're saying bafoon?
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prunchess - 594 days 10 hours ago
5.9 - @Bloodmask
The amount of times this kind of thing has happened on GT it can only be put down to carelessness, incompetence or deliberately done. What do you think it is?

I've said this before, with the amount of hits GT gets they have a certain amount of influence over console and game purchases. They have a responsibility to give people accurate information or they are just conning gamers out of their cash.

From reading that interview and the time GT has had to prepare a response, I find the excuses unconvincing and I will avoid clicking\ hitting GT's site from now on. I refuse to finance such shoddy and misleading game journalism. I would urge others to do the same.
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Mr_Showtime1 - 594 days 14 hours ago
6 - Wow
this guy is great at lieing!
lol
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gtgcoolkid - 594 days 14 hours ago
6.1 - yeah
i wonder how long it took them to come up with their bs excuse. biased jackasses.
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criticalzero - 594 days 14 hours ago
7 - BULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everything they said is utter bullshit!!!!

How can a big gaming site like that not check up and miss such thing....Not only that...While comparing GTA4 also, they always made it so the 360 looked better....The Helicopter of the PS3 version was going much faster hence more texture pop-up, while the 360 helicopter was moving nice and slow so that the textures would have time to load up..Also, the chopper is always closer to the ground on the PS3 version, so that minor details will pop-up, where as in the 360 version, since it is taken far aways, you cant even notice things like lamp posts etc etc
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Tmac - 594 days 14 hours ago
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So they're saying no one reviews the videos before they are given the "A-OK"? This smells like balogna.

I can admit mistakes, but no one caught this post-production? How about in the editing room where they are to stop problems like these from popping up. Really I find this hard to believe and very far fetched.

Comments were being disabled, threads were being largely locked or deleted, their official statement? "Honestly, I don't know anything about this happening...." How about the people who got banned?

Yeah okay GameTrailers.

There was confusion about who was to overlook the process, but they couldnt decide who did or didn't? Are you serious? Is this how a company runs a business?... So what, did it just end up happening that no one looked at it post edit?... Hell, post production? Come on GT anyone with a brain knows you screwed up.
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kingOVsticks - 594 days 12 hours ago
8.1 - mhm
they are very much dead to me too this is really low if they weren't paid then whats the point of making the 360 look so much better then the PS3 version?they can only answer and say "the person with both consoles can decide to get the one that looks best" which is always the 360 version,its always the 360 version box art for a multiplatform game and its always the 360 version to receive better reviews. This isn't a conspiracy like the 360 extremist or "naive" gamer would say this is just site a site fulfilling their part of the bargain with M$ point blank.
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smokeymicpot - 594 days 14 hours ago
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How do you know that everyone makes mistakes. Its not really a big deal everyone made it as one
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OnslaughtX - 594 days 14 hours ago
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Told you. They would claim that their statements were true, and the error was simply in the video content used.

Predictable. Honest mistake? Maybe. Biased site? I'd say so, the RGB Full and HDMI usage being "unfair" to the 360 is a joke of an excuse.
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DR-IVO - 594 days 14 hours ago
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im having a hard time believing this is a legit interview
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PimpHandHappy - 594 days 14 hours ago
12 - i think its funny
Why do you hate the PlayStation SO MUCH? How much does Microsoft give you?

Ha! We haven't had any advertising from Microsoft on GameTrailers.com for over two years.

Yea well when you get a boat load of money you dont need to keep getting paid!

This site is dead to me
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solidjun5 - 594 days 14 hours ago
12.1 - you know what i also noticed?
maybe he forgot to answer the complete question (so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now but i'll still bring it up), but he still didn't respond to the other part of the question..."Why do you hate the PlayStation SO MUCH?" and just responded to the money from MS part of the question. I was just curious about that.
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EZCheez - 594 days 14 hours ago
13 - Someone's living in a fantasy land
"I'm also disappointed that so many publications ran their stories without contacting us for the real story and instead took the word of random Internet folks who were totally manipulating the situation."

Seriously, what else would happen?
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Kaneda - 594 days 14 hours ago
14 - So...
is the 360 has better crash physics or not? :) or did the writer or editor saw the PS3 footage and think it was 360 footage.. and think 360 has better crash physics..:)

I am confuse... :)
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gano - 594 days 14 hours ago
15 - AND
That's a hoe ass statement. GT is bias, let them be. Fuk'em. I'm sure someone will drop a better version of them soon.
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Obama - 594 days 14 hours ago
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I like GT too as it has the best review out of all gaming sites, but like many here I don't trust their comparison videos. It's not the first time that it showed its bias against the ps3 in the videos.
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iEnzeru - 594 days 14 hours ago
17 - i've enjoyed GT and will continue to do so... but my mouth still tastes sour
fanboy or no fanboy, i'm sure that the majority of the people who visit gametrailers actually like what the site gives them. an oppurtunity to enjoy a huge library of videos related to games, both user and non-user generated. that's why at least for me, this entire incident isn't going to stop me from going to their site. it just sucks that now i'm left with a slightly sour taste in my mouth. because even though his answers to the questions were fairly reasonable, him trying to the best of his abilities to "cool the flames", the last two sentences in the article that he provided just seemed backwards to me.

"We work hard to make sure there's quality content for everyone on the site, and when stuff like this happens you feel a litle betrayed by the people you're working so hard for. Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a world where people just enjoyed video games regardless of what platform they're released for?"

if he truly believes this, then why on earth would comparison videos be necessary in the first place? does he not know that the videos aren't just comparing the images from the two versions of the games, but the ability of the two consoles to run those games?
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Skerj - 594 days 14 hours ago
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"Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a world where people just enjoyed video games regardless of what platform they're released for?"

Funny that he said that considering those comparison videos are usually tools that are used to prevent that from happening.
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AclayPS3 - 594 days 14 hours ago
19 - Not enough
I'm sorry, but I still don't trust Gametrailers 100% anymore.

Gametrailers had even admitted in the past that they were using HDMI cables with the 360 and Component Cables with the PS3 to make comparisions.... but obviously they aren't doing that now.

I still think that some of the Gametraiers staff that work on these game comparisons are baised towards the Xbox 360 though and they knew what they were doing. Gametrailers has had numerous video game comparisons on the 360 and PS3, so why did they slip up on GRID? I guess you can say that everyone makes a mistake, but this isn't the first time that Gametrailers has been caught in the gameplay video comparison controversy.
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harv052 - 594 days 14 hours ago
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Fact of the mater is, leaving the screw-up aside, the crashes were way too different....
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Jason 360 - 594 days 14 hours ago
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Now I want ro see some of the excuses of those that edited it for a Playstation agenda. LOL for some I don't have to go very far ^^^---> It does sound like a simple mistake, and I knew it was from the start. It's not a mistake that they can live down anytime soon, but it was just a mistake. Some people just took it to far and wen't off crying and whining as usual.
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Tmac - 594 days 14 hours ago
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From looking at some of your comments I can tell your about 15 or 16. I won't hold it against you but using your brain could make you look less than a rabid and yet psychotic Xbox fanatic.
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Jason 360 - 594 days 7 hours ago
21.2 - Tmac
You don't like me because your a victim of hypocricy, and I caught you red handed. Now your going to follow me around like Nasim and Crazzyman for the next month, stalking me, because your feelings got hurt. This makes about the 5th comment of mine your have stalked me on, ever since I caught you in your lie. :) Are you Crazzyman by any chance? he uses multi's like Nasim, so you never know. By all means, if you feel the need to be slapped around, keep comming at me, I have a bunch of ammo and a big gun.
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hotshot127 - 594 days 14 hours ago
22 - if it was a mistake then
how about they explain why one video looked better then the other but they were the same damn video?

hmmmmmm

@JASON360
hahhaahaahha only a gullable fool like you'reself would just up and believe them. what did you expect them to come out and tell the truth so they can tarnish thier site and reputation?

people these days..............(shakes head in dissapointment)
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ShinGino - 594 days 14 hours ago
23 - Sounds like a lot of bull!
It's been TOO MANY "HONEST MISTAKES" ALREADY!

He didn't give any explanations as to why they banned members, took down comments, and forums!

Micro$oft is sleeping with Viacom, who owns GameTrailers!
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DJ - 594 days 14 hours ago
24 - I loved these lines:
-Why were comments disabled, forums posts deleted, etc?-
"Honestly, I don't know anything about this happening."

"It blows my mind and saddens me that people took the time to go in and doctor our original piece of media to make us look worse."

Wait, so what's with selecting RGB Limited for PS3 videos? Why lower the contrast? I've seen other comparison videos that actually record raw feed from these multiplatform games and they look identical. But when GameTrailers does it, the PS3 version always looks washed out.

They're claiming that everyone added their own agenda to the GRID vid, but it clearly shows sucky crashes for the "PS3 version" and amazing crashes for the "360 version". These guys should've just kept their mouths shut. And it looks like Gamersyde has a big void to fill, now that Gametrailers got caught pulling off their own agenda. The only thing that doesn't come off as biased are the Bonus Round episodes where they bring people who support each console to talk about what's going with the industry.
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Gitaroo - 594 days 14 hours ago
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if anyone want the best comparison on the net, its probably Eurogamers. They actually puts things into a technical perspective and explain the flaws on each version; they also take true HDMI lossless shots from each platform. However they tends to to skip out a few things on PS3 side, like most of the multi platform game has better AF on PS3 and a FP16 HDR. And their comparison article always come out a while after the games were release.
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gamersday08 - 594 days 14 hours ago
26 - GT is so LAME and INSINCERE.
I quote, "The situation has been dealt with, though"

Did that statement sounds unreluctant and insincere? These guys are supposed to be "pro" but they did not even release an apology statement to SONY. SONY could've easily taken legal action and file for a defamation lawsuit.

Now, where are all the XBOT fanboys hiding now?
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Meus Renaissance - 594 days 13 hours ago
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1UP, GameSpot, Gametrailers have all attained reputations over the past year. IGN is the only one left.
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Tmac - 594 days 13 hours ago
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I'd add Eurogamer and Kotaku to that growing list.
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