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Sony: MMOs will become 'selling point' for PS3

MCV Writes: "Online president says that Xbox 360 won't be able to compete with new titles"
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Published: 594 days 20 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3 | Industry News
 
 

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PirateThom - 594 days 19 hours ago
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As long as they support mouse and keyboard, MMOs could be a big lift for the PS3.
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Condoleezza Rice - 594 days 16 hours ago
1.1 - I've been telling a lot of people
In those "What game did that BBC guy see?" articles?I've been telling them it's an MMO,and no one seems to want to believe it lol
1.2 sephiroths_revenge | 594 days 15 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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MicroDeath SoftStar - 594 days 15 hours ago
1.3 - Keep on dreamin people
one of the most important things about mmos are community size , without it a mmo cant survive and looking at console install base figures its obvious that there just isn't enough people out there to provide a mmo with grounds to survive , hell not even the wii could support one due to the type of people that buy the console (most of them have never even heard of a mmo ) .
Here one to chew on , how many people % wise do you think are willing to pay to play a game ?? most people dont even understand the concept and think its a rip off .
Personally i dont think any MMO will come out before Sony or MS have a install base of at least 30 m , as for Wii you can forget about it cause nintendo dont want social interactions on there console
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adalwolfe - 594 days 10 hours ago
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um, age of conan and huxley are 2 mmorpg's that are announced to be coming to the 360 within one year, and they both have better graphics then final fantasy..

if halo3 can sell 8 million units, thats more then enough for an mmo to survive, actually most mmo's namely sony mmo's like EQ 1-2, vangaurd, swg, and matrix online ect.. do not have anymore then a few hundred thousand subscribers and they are "living". i mean, 300,000 x 12 dollars a month = 3.6 million a month in subscribtion fees... thats pretty decent for selling a virtual service..

Although I hate sony mmorpgs, they are horrible grindfests, I honestly believe if it wasn't for sony mucking with all these mmorpgs and ruining them to get every penny they can from the userbase.. world of warcraft wouldn't be doing nearly as well as it is.. only sony could ruin an mmo based on the star wars franchise..
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leeger - 594 days 17 hours ago
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So where are these MMOs? Enough talk just give us the games.
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Captain Tuttle - 594 days 17 hours ago
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Good point
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ericnellie - 594 days 16 hours ago
2.2 - Yeah -
I can't wait for the new final fantasy MMO =) I loved FFXI even though you couldn't solo a damn thing in that game.
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P4KY B - 594 days 17 hours ago
3 - He's got a point.
But Sony is taking too long to get its act together.

By the time anything interesting arrives to new xbox will be here (or close on the horizon), and MS wont be making the HDD mistake again.
3.1 thenickel | 594 days 17 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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codeazrael - 594 days 17 hours ago
3.2 - HDD choice was not a mistake
GTAIV is proof of that. HDD issues are the Genesis of the freezing problems with ps3.
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season007 - 594 days 17 hours ago
3.3 - yea maybe
but currently xbox360 is 450 for the elite
which i assume with all crazy possible price drop for most it will get to 250 in 2-3 years

well what about a new MS console? 500-600price tag?
which the online community is not as built up as xbox 360 nor PS3 with MUCH less user base?

I just don't see how releasing a new console within 2-3 years will make MS get a so-called lead again, it will be more likely be the original xbox, labeled as a good console but not in the right timing
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Fishy Fingers - 594 days 17 hours ago
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codeazrael

Are you insinuating that installing game to a HDD is a bad thing?? Also, please link me to where it said the GTA problems were due to the use of HDD, because without one I kind of get the feeling your talking absolute rubbish.
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codeazrael - 594 days 17 hours ago
3.5 - I'm not insinuating that, but it didnt help load times but by a couple of seconds...
I'm not going to spend my free time searching for the article, but it may have been in PSU online, I think. If you noticed, the freezing problem was really isolated to the "old" ps3 units that were discontinued. Then further confusion was made when FALSE reports of rampant freezing on both consoles. If that were the case, why was a patch only released for the PS3? But in regards to it being a hdd related issue, something about a difference between the 40 gig ps3 inner parts and the different parts the "old" ps3 had in them. Also further proof sony cannibalized the ps3, because why would you change anything inide the system so soon? And don't say because prices have dropped..........not that fast they havent.
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GutZ31 - 594 days 16 hours ago
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@codeazrael

The issue was down to network interference allowed while playing the game and saving.
There was no issue with hard drives what so ever, and the cases that were problematic of hard drives were within faulty hardware ratios.

Unplugging from the internet helped while playing the story mode, and then plugging back in if you wanted to play online.
But this was only for a small number of people, in the 100,000 at most, if I'm not mistaken.

The original Xbox had a hard drive, but it wasn't as lucrative as having a "sold separately" add on.
Not to remove unwanted side effects, but to get more money for something that has a case on it.
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Some_One_Plays - 594 days 17 hours ago
4.1 - thenickel
You also have to play into factor Persistant Online Games aren't free you pay for them. For XBOX 360 to have some that would mean you would have to pay on top of your subcription to XBOX Live.

With the PlayStation 3 it's like a PC (Personal Computer) online is free for everyone but not persistant online games. Some games will be free on the PlayStation 3 but for the most part persistant online games have subscriptions.

Don't forget you can use mouse / key boards for PlayStation 3 games as well.
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gambare - 594 days 17 hours ago
4.2 - 360 has a bunch of mmos ?
Huxley and age of conan also aviable on PC? I know but I prefer to play them on my PC, and both titles are not that good, been there done that, they are not good, AoC looks pretty but is too generic and the gameplay lacks on improvement, I hope they can do free patches for the 360 version
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v1c1ous - 594 days 17 hours ago
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uhh. games that will have subscriptions can be used w/o paying for a gold account.

Phantasy star universe, FF11 you can pay and play without having to pay for xbox live on 360 :/
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SUP3R - 594 days 17 hours ago
4.4 - thenickel
I guess you're not really up on the MMO news. Sony already announced The Agency, which is due this holiday season and also 2 unannounced NCSoft exclusive MMO's in the works.

Another point is that MMO's require HDD's which aren't standard on 360's. So you're going to have to purchase a hard drive, purchase the game, pay for your Live subscription, the monthly fee for the MMO and your monthly internet access bill.

Compared to the PS3, pay for the game, the monthly fee for the game, your monthly internet internet access bill and your option of using a mouse and keyboard.
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SUP3R - 594 days 16 hours ago
4.7 - LMAO@Bladestar
LOL!!
You really made me laugh hard at that pic.
(check image)

Logitech diNovo Mini Keyboard Features

* 25 mm (.98-inch) dual-purpose ClickPad. Works as a touch pad and a 4-way directional pad
* Thumb-operated keypad design
* 63 backlighted keys
* Backlighting for two modes—orange for touch-pad mode, green for media-center remote mode
* Ambient light sensor measures current available light and turns off backlight, if necessary, to conserve power
* Troy gloss silver with midnight black design
* Dedicated Windows Media® Center button
* Range: up to 10 m (33 feet)

handy huh?

@Bladestar

Wow your more daft than I thought. If you choose to use Keyboard and Mouse controls over the controller in MMO's this is a substitute.
Not like that keypad + controller for the 360.
Have you ever even played a MMO on PC???


4.8 Bladestar | 594 days 16 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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SUP3R - 594 days 15 hours ago
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Tabula Rasa is a shooter MMORPG isn't it?
I don't hear users complaining about the lack of shoulder buttons.
COD4 is a FPS don't hear them complaining about shoulder buttons for shooting.
LOL
You're grasping at some insignificant straws right now.

The FACT is that PS3 users have the option to control MMO's with either the controller or full keyboard and mouse support for those who prefer to play it that way.
That is the point of all this, your shoulder buttons argument is invalid because PC games have never relied on them since the days of Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem and Doom.
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Le-mo - 594 days 17 hours ago
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Get those JRPG's out first.
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snappywave - 594 days 17 hours ago
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What is JRPG? "Just" RPG?
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Fishy Fingers - 594 days 17 hours ago
5.2 - ^
J = Japanese.
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Calcio - 594 days 17 hours ago
7 - Original source
I've added in the original source of the quotes.
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Delive - 594 days 17 hours ago
8 - Just wondering.
Is there really a market for MMO's on a console? I would play them without a doubt, but it seems WoW has that genre on lock.
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kosha - 594 days 16 hours ago
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Well people have got to stop playing WOW one day but at the moment its still holding strong. Maybe a console WOW with better graphics will draw the pc crowd into consoles
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sleepbox - 594 days 17 hours ago
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I hate MMORPGs but while millions love them they only really play WoW. I mean, I think Sony has sour grapes here because outside of EQ, every MMO they have attempted has been full of fail.
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gambare - 594 days 17 hours ago
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every MMO? EQ was a great hit, EQ2 had a tough challenge thanks to WoW, but they weren't a failure.
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Superfragilistic - 594 days 17 hours ago
11 - What the?
Um The Agency will see the PS3 become a leader in MMO's?

But the exclusive MMO's on Xbox360: Age of Conan, APB, Champions Online & Huxley will have no effect?

Seriously. :/
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adamnlee66 - 594 days 16 hours ago
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the agency is a fpsmmo which makes it better than WoW although age of conan does look good it has to be said it looks 10x better on pc
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Superfragilistic - 594 days 15 hours ago
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@adamnless66

Yeah The Agency looks cool as does Huxley which is also an FPSMMO, and that'll probably give them a stronger chance of success given the FPS fans on consoles.

But the ones I'm really watching are APB on 360 and Alpha Protocol on 360 & PS3 which looks very different to the rest. A spy MMO could be very cool indeed.
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Pornlord - 594 days 17 hours ago
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I'll sign up for a good MMO, but I'm SICK of EQ and Pirates sucks scrote and WoW didn't "WOW" me all that much. I'm looking forward to a GOOD console MMORPG. But the JRPG comment before from LE-MO... I gave you bubbles. I am still playing my Persona 3 SE I got on preorder, what a BADA** GAME it is.
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Superfragilistic - 594 days 17 hours ago
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Yeah I'm with you on that one. I'm still givin love to Lost Odyssey and can't wait for Cry on, Infinite Undiscovery and Tales of Vespiria on 360. :)
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Baba1906 - 594 days 16 hours ago
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bring me age of conan to ps3 you little......... . my pc cant really handle it .. cry.
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adamnlee66 - 594 days 16 hours ago
14 - in relevance to the agency
sony has said many times that the agency will most defently be a non subscription game and that you will buy items in micro transactions these items will not give any advantages they will just look cool. this is why ps3 mmo`s will take off and i belive this artical needs this information
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Garrison - 594 days 16 hours ago
15 - Sony needs to bring Everquest to Ps3.
Everquest Online Adventures was the best mmo I've ever played and it's a crime really they didn't come up with more updates for it. These guys want MMO's to push the ps3 but they aren't coming out with their top gun, makes no sense.
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J@D - 594 days 13 hours ago
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So agree with the Everquest part'
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DJ - 594 days 16 hours ago
16 - Two names:
NC Soft and Square Enix.
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Pornlord - 594 days 15 hours ago
17 - @Adamnlee66
That sounds like a sound strategy, I was wondering how they were going to do Agency.

@Superfraggilistic
I would like to play lost oddessy, but I can't get my roomate to stop playing FPS games long enough to pick up the controller :) Hence why I bought a PS3 in the first Place. I knew there would be more RPG's on it (At least JRPG) but I am looking forward to fable 2 however, I'll have to hide COD4 from him so he thinks someone stole it for a week or two when that game comes out...

@EVERYBODY
Are there any other suspected PS3 or XBOX MMORPG's in the rumormill????
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aiphanes - 594 days 14 hours ago
19 - There are no good MMOs on the Xbox 360...
Whoever says there are is on crack! What we need is world of warcraft on both the PS3 and the Xbox 360...and we need it to allow both PS3 and Xbox 360 users to play WOW with the PC users....the same thing with the agency...allow the PS3 users to play against the PC users.
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myabsolution - 594 days 14 hours ago
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I wouldnt trust SOE for a SECOND with my money.

John Smedley is the one who ruined Star Wars Galaxies, an SOE MMO.

He constantly lied to the userbase saying bug fixes were in the works, all while it was really just a combat overhaul (New Game Enhancements that made 75% of playerbase leave)

Just putting it out there as a SWG-refugee, but John Smedley is scum of the earth... hope he has changed.
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