PS3/360 Cry Engine 2 to Look Near High Settings on PC

Martini - 627 days 13 hours ago

ah reading comprehension problem ?? Maybe you are used to a 15 frames per second so you can't read / see that good.... ?

"PS3 games which run on our engine in the future will definitely stand significantly apart from other games that don’t."

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Lord Anubis - 627 days 13 hours ago

what does that have to do with the team understanding the architecture and getting more out of the architect than most of the other teams. BTW when you quote, don't simply quote what you think will make the argument.

"Well there is no doubt that porting our engine to the PlayStation 3 is the more challenging of our two ongoing conversion projects, but that works to our advantage in the end. ((We feel certain we have the ability to get the most that is possible out of that platform, and therefore PS3 games which run on our engine in the future will definitely stand significantly apart from other games that don’t))."

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gambare - 627 days 13 hours ago

it sounds like something good for the use of the PS3 in reference of the cryengine

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sonarus - 627 days 13 hours ago

Why waste your breath arguing. Do you know how much of a beast crysis is? lol if they can get it to run on high on 360/ps3 i won't believe it till i see it.

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IDemonstalkerXI - 627 days 12 hours ago

Its not hard for me to believe , There are laptops that run it on max settings. so High on 360 and PS3 is not amazing to me.

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Sarick - 627 days 12 hours ago

He said it's more difficult and it will work to their advantage.

Then went on to say their games will stand out.

I think this is a significant positive on his part. He points out that although it'll be harder to work with more can be done to improve this version. Clearly making it stand out above its competition.

Why the hostility and negative optimism? I don't see this as a negative statement in the least. The developer clearly believes his company can create software of high quality that uses these consoles to their limits, especially the PS3s complex architecture.

Let me get this streight. Are you saying this developer is bias and creating hype to save face for a product? If that's what your implying then your opinion isn't based on good faith to begin with.

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chaosatom333 - 627 days 10 hours ago

then they could.

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Lifendz - 627 days ago

If I can buy the console version of a game like Crysis and get an experience that's better than what a PC gamer with a PC that costs the same as a console, then why would I opt for a PC? I know I know, for consoles you have to have a HD tv to enjoy it to its max. I'd say that once I have the HD tv I'm good for a much longer time than I am if I buy that new graphics card.

Not knocking PC gamers. If you have the money to keep up with PC gaming than more power to you. I just saying that something like Crysis looking close to max settings on consoles is a big deterrent for a gamer when thinking about whether to get a PC or a console like 360 or PS3.

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Charlie2688 - 626 days 21 hours ago

@Lifendz: do you even understand what you are saying? are you even familiar with how PC gaming works vs console gaming?

seriously?

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Lifendz - 626 days 12 hours ago

No Charlie. Why don't you explain it all to me.

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The Closing - 627 days 15 hours ago

Read the article before making a "frikkin" comment.

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kevoncox - 627 days 14 hours ago

No the guy was right. NOwhere did it say the Ps3 is the most powerful console. They basically said that the new engine will look better than anything on the ps3 so far....

The other guy has other motives.

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ForTheFallen - 627 days 14 hours ago

I mean, this is the PS3. It has like 7 cores. That's raw power that could be used. Not to mention the ownage ram. I can definitely see them pulling this off, provided they learn the hardware a little more.

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Ju - 627 days 13 hours ago

Maybe. But that is not what the guy was saying: "Yes, we definitely tailor the engine specifically to each platform". A console with HD could e.g. support texture streaming, while another one would not. If a core would not but a premium would, I doubt it (politics, I guess). Would a PS3 version do but a 360 version would not? We'll see if the publisher wants to get support from both MS and Sony (that is the main reason, IMO, why multi platform titles look the same - rather then features I think).

I could imagine, the engine might tailor each platform, but there is a lot of politics involved as well. However, if one developer would try to max out the HW, regardless of politics, that could lead to much more differences between the platforms. Exclusives might put some pressure on the other devs, IMO. Or maybe not. But exclusives show some pretty different picture compared to multiplatform titles.

The engine itself is not the problem. Just depends if the interface can be designed in a way it maxes the HW, but still gives the devs a common hi level layer to cross port the game (hide mem limits, etc, or does scale automatically, or allows same assets but different pre-processing...).

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moses - 627 days 12 hours ago

oooohh!!! 7 cores! Whoopdeedoo! That's really going to help when Crysis is memory and graphic intensive, two weak points of consoles. Sure both have the raw processing power, but when even the newer 9800 GTX's and 9800 GX2's can't max out Crysis on top resolutions, you know consoles with last gen GPU's and 512 ram aren't going to run crysis on a very high resolution.

But what do we know at this point, Crytek could have done some major optimization and it may run pretty well. We shall see.

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SlippyMadFrog - 627 days 9 hours ago

Hard disks has absolutely NOTHING to do with in-game performance. Get your facts straight!

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yanikins111 - 627 days 8 hours ago

Slippy stating totally incorrect facts as truth does not make them truth. Im pretty sure every dev under the sun is commenting in a negative way about the 360's lack of HDD as standard.

Also at moses, while it hasnt been proven imo, the ps3's architecture allows the cell spe's to perform gpu calculations significantly boosting graphics potential. Its wait and see as to how much of a boost the cell can provide tho.

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SlippyMadFrog - 627 days 7 hours ago

"Slippy stating totally incorrect facts as truth does not make them truth"
Oh my word!
Disk space influences the amount of content, not performance. A hard disk doesn't do any calculations or draw any textures. It can't even be used as secondary ram since it's too slow. As I said, get your facts straight. Pull your head out of Sony's @ss and think for yourself.

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yanikins111 - 627 days 6 hours ago

OK. So they dont use it for texture buffering or whatever it is? Or as a cache? Uncharted having no load times had nothing to do with the hdd? Wasnt the Burnout online something to do with caching as well?

To another point, if it has no benfit to games, i guess capcom makes you install games of theirs on the ps3 hard drive for no reason? It doesnt shorten load times?

If you can show me some proof of your claims ill happily admit you are right. Other wise ill just keep lol'ing at you man.

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tweaker - 627 days 6 hours ago

Not having a hard drive DOES in fact affect performance. Games with large open world environments like MMO games require a hard drive for caching and stream loading textures and models. Load times will also noticeably decrease with the use of partial or full software installation.

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yanikins111 - 627 days 6 hours ago

Cheers tweaker.

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SlippyMadFrog - 627 days 5 hours ago

The argument wasn't if it had any benefits regarding gaming, of course there are benefits in having an HDD.The argument is if it increases performance in-game, which it doesn't! Having an HDD does not influence frames per second. Stream loading is also done from DVD. If you don't have an HDD, the RAM is used as cache, which is MUCH faster than an HDD. Using the HDD as cache is best suited for infrequent use since an HDD is VERY slow in comparison to RAM.

"If you can show me some proof of your claims ill happily admit you are right. Other wise ill just keep lol'ing at you man."
How about not being childish and actualy presenting me with some arguments or facts? Telling me that you "lol" at me doesn't hurt my feelings.

@tweaker
Thanks for the well presented argument, but as I said above caching from HDD is only used as a last resort since its so slow, and if it is used, it is used so infrequent that it won't affect frames per second.

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yanikins111 - 627 days 4 hours ago

"The argument is if it increases performance in-game" So no texture pop up isnt increasing performance? No/little loading times?

"Having an HDD does not influence frames per second" yet "If you don't have an HDD, the RAM is used as cache". So using ram as a cache, on a system already low on ram isnt going to effect game performance? Your kidding right?

Add to this things like not having to decompress textures and audio from dvd/bluray disc on the fly (cpu + ram usage).

Anywho not wasting more bubbles arguing with an idiot.

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deep - 626 days 23 hours ago

You're wrong on this occassion.

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Grown Folks Talk - 626 days 23 hours ago

hogging up all the bubbles Deep? = }

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consolewar - 627 days 14 hours ago

lol.

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Rob4Vendetta - 627 days 13 hours ago

LMAO

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wallace1000 - 626 days 22 hours ago

Nicely done consolewar, lets try and get you a fourth bubble!

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TheIneffableBob - 627 days 14 hours ago

Mark Rein actually said that Unreal Tournament 3 was better looking than Crysis in an interview. >_>

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ForTheFallen - 627 days 14 hours ago

Mark Rein is full of...

lies.

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sonarus - 627 days 13 hours ago

The unreal engine is pretty strong engine but there are so many more engines that are more powerful than it. Crytek engine prob dumps all over unreal engine

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IDemonstalkerXI - 627 days 12 hours ago

UT3 does look better then crysis in many maps. Like Delios is one bad ass looking sci fi map.

Creeks, streams, water in UT3 looks better then the water in crysis too. Though Crysis has many effects that also look better then UT3. It depends on what maps you compare IMO. Though crysis has the physics win and the crysis suit ftw too. UT3 has the most character and map mods ftw. It goes back and forth. Crysis SP woops the sh1t outa UT3 SP though.

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ZeroXMD - 627 days 6 hours ago

2 people actually disagreed with the fact that you don't care. That confirms my suspicions that some ppl just go around disagreeing for the he11 of it. Morons

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wallace1000 - 626 days 22 hours ago

It is a well known fact that other people on this site know what other people are thinking, they can read minds and know if you are lying or not :-P

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Grown Folks Talk - 626 days 22 hours ago

Right now I sense that you are thinking about a nice double cheeseburger from Don & Millies. Wallace is thinking about a way to save a lot of $ on his car insurance without switching to Geico. & me, I'm thinking about Salma Hayek. = }

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alcaponedya - 627 days 14 hours ago

is something like 4 times better than quad core and you saw that some company made crysis runon CPU alone.
it's plausible.

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Martini - 627 days 13 hours ago

the "cell" is stripped down from many functions that a general processing processor has (to keep it cheap), so I hate to burst your bubble but no it's not. Yeah you are right they made it run on CPU at 4.6 frames per second - which is perfectly acceptable if you only own a PS 3.

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Varsarus - 627 days 13 hours ago

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moses - 627 days 12 hours ago

Cell four times fast then a quad core? Where are you getting your info. It's a linear processor, not an open processor, the Quad core hands down beats the cell overall, just not in linear number crunching.

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iAmPS3 - 627 days 14 hours ago

They are absolutely talking about the PS3, CELL + RSX is PURE OWNAGE.

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ambientFLIER - 627 days 12 hours ago

Lol, how do you morons still have any bubbles left?

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pwnsause - 627 days 9 hours ago

well ambient, do you actually think this game can run on the 360? look at what the Crysis dev said. did he mentioned anything about the 360? no he just said PS3, although the Journalists try to get his question answered to see if the cry engine actually did make an appearance on the 360 and PS3. its not fanboyism. lol.

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ambientFLIER - 626 days 21 hours ago

Hasn't the developer already said that the engine is capable of running on the 360 at medium-high settings a few weeks ago? I remember reading it. Anyway, why wouldn't it run on the xbox? The xbox is a 3.2ghz multi-core pc. Yeah, it doesn't have as much ram as pc's, but that can be compensated for with specific tuning for the platform. More load times, streaming, etc. I fully believe that it can run it just fine.

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Varsarus - 626 days 23 hours ago

looks like you are, move along kid.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 627 days 13 hours ago

Agreed. It's always the cell is the pwnage! But then you look at the games and wonder what all the hype is about.

Just look at the devs for Saints Row 2(Volition) saying that they are maxing out the PS3.

Too much FUD to get to the real facts.

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Varsarus - 627 days 13 hours ago

ROFL, Saints Row 2 is coming out on 360 too so how can they say they are going to max out the ps3? blatent lies, you do realise the 360 is holding back the advancements of gaming right? why you think that rumor about Rockstar could be going ps3 exclusive after gta iv came up? and you don't know sh!t about what Cell can do, why you think scientists and the US army are using the ps3 for w.e stuff? hahahahaha.

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Martini - 627 days 12 hours ago

Weak - dismissed, you gotta do better then that.

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pwnsause - 627 days 9 hours ago

to phanton disagreer, http://hardware.slashdot.or...
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/new...
http://kotaku.com/363837/us...

Next time when you disagree state reasons why without leaving this page unanounced.

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