GTAIV to run at 30 FPS on PS3 and 360; Looking Identical on Both Systems and More - 1UP Yours 02/29/09

sonarus - 667 days 13 hours ago

even if it was a first party game, 60fps would be extremely hard to pull off for an open world game as expansive as GTA. The older versions didnt always run steady at 30fps though so a constant framerate is all i require

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pharmd - 667 days 13 hours ago

...sounds like a win-win for everyone...

get ur game on:P

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Vash_The_Stampede - 667 days 13 hours ago

Maybe.....just maybe in the future R* will have the new GTA's running at 60 fps. By then the new microsoft console will be out, but the PS3 will still be here kickin strong and running it with ease.

Launch 60gb upgraded to 320gb.

Launch 360 downgraded to........well you know.

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jackdoe - 667 days 13 hours ago

For the incredible size of the world, I think a stable 30 fps is good. Also, even though some people *cough* PoG *cough* want to dispute it, the fact is that the PS3 version looks and runs great. Which is a plus. I don't know how many more shoddy ports I could take. But different sites have the PS3 build being anywhere from one (1up) to three weeks (spong) behind which is strange. My guess is one week, or else they wouldn't have shown the game to the press.

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sonarus - 667 days 12 hours ago

lol @ odion hope he didnt hurt your feelings. For a game like GTA i dont think 60fps is a necessity

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RecSpec - 667 days 12 hours ago

By the end of the gen I think we will see it. The series has advanced a lot from 3 to San Andreas.

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etownone - 667 days 12 hours ago

Gears plays great at 30fps.
GTA4 will play at 30 fps.

so how come a game like COD4 that looks better than both those games run steady at 60 fps on both 360/ps3?

open world? nah..... just pay infinity ward for their game engine.

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misterzadir - 667 days 11 hours ago

COD 4 is an extremely linear game for starters... IW has said that they do NOT like open world, sandbox style gameplay and that they want their games to be heavily scripted and linear. It's debatable whether it looks better than GoW but IMO it certainly does not. But you can't honestly imply that if Infinity Ward was doing GTA that it would be 60fps if they were to make it the same look and openness as Rockstar is making it. You're kidding yourself.

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sonarus - 667 days 11 hours ago

everyone talks like gears of war has mind blowing graphics. Yes it did 2 YEARS AGO. There are so many games that will (and already have) surpass gears of war graphically and i think call of duty was one of them.

I was a big fan of gears of war 1 i just wish Epic didn't license the unreal engine to every tom d!ck and harry to play with and f up making countless numbers of ugly unreal engine games. It has essentially killed that unique look. No matter how many textures or pixel shaders or polygons they pack into gears 2 it prob won't be very impressive to me because i am tired of the look.

Hopefully i am wrong i really enjoyed that cover based game play in gears. Thats prob what i liked most about uncharted too. Its nice to slow it down sometimes and not run around getting shot like a buffoon.

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Kr155 - 667 days 10 hours ago

some of you make it sound like 60 fps is new to this generation. You do realize that there are PS1 games that run at 60 fps. the fact is it's a development decision, and it always has been. Run the game at 60fps, or make the game look better, render more detail and run it at 30 fps. and if you actually think that COD4 and GTA4 are comparable you really need to think about that. In COD4 the maps are small and claustrophobic. It allows for a higher level of detail and a fast frame rate because there really isn't much there. GTA4 is one enormous map and while the whole thing isn't rendered at once, alot more has to be rendered at any given time than COD4. Take a look at the screen shots of GTA4. look at all the people walking in the streets that not only have to be rendered but have AI too. look at how many buildings there are and how large they are. Look at how far away you can see. COD4 while certainly one of the best looking games around doesn't make the console do half the things that GTA4 does. It is likely that if R* continues to develop this franchise that thier goals are to make the game more expansive and get much more on the screen at once. Not increase the frame rate espesially with how cinimatic the game is. Games focused on competition, or racing games are better served by the faster frame rate thats just the way it is.

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VigorousApathy - 667 days 8 hours ago

Right on Kr155. Comparing COD4's framerate and graphics makes as little sense as comparing the graphics of cars from Gran Turismo 5. COD4 would be 5 frames a second if it was trying to display the same amount of information that is in any moment of GTA 4.

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Seraphim - 667 days 7 hours ago

bubble for you...

I was wondering how far I'd get in this before seeing some .... make some crap statement about frame rates. The modern gamer is so misinformed. Both are essential for gaming and both have their strong and weak points. It's up to the developer to create what kind of game they want and they take many factors into consideration when deciding 30 or 60 FPS. Now if only all these idiots [in general, not toward anyone directly] can get that through their thick and narrow minded skulls. What enrages me is all these so called "gamers" crying about Frames Per Second. Oh, I'm not buying *insert game* because the developers suck. They can't even run 60 FPS. I refuse to buy a game that isn't 60 FPS. This and the no online play card are my two pet peeves with gamers.

Fact of the matter is that I hope developers stop disclosing this kind of information. If another developer wants to know, fine, tell them. But there's no reason for the average gamer, or reviewer to care or know how many FPS a game runs. It's irrelevant to the game and quality of. Both are a necessity for gaming and that's the simple fact of the matter...

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EZCheez - 667 days 13 hours ago

Was there ever any doubt?

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sonarus - 667 days 11 hours ago

i dunno. am still sort of meh on GTA4 to be honest. I will still be getting it for sure but i seriously doubt it will be a day one purchase

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ikiru3385 - 667 days 10 hours ago

me, too!

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-EvoAnubis- - 667 days 6 hours ago

...see you guys in Liberty City on the 29th of April. Just look for the fireworks and widespread panic. I'll be in the middle of it.

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ravenguard88 - 667 days 13 hours ago

i dont think you get it...

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Dragon Boy - 667 days 12 hours ago

I have a Bravia XBR4 with the 120hz motion flow I doubt your TV is going to upscale the frames per second but it will make it alot smoother.

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ThePeoplesChamp - 667 days 12 hours ago

no need to make remarks like that. he really may not be able to afford that, but since we are on the subject i could crush you with my wallet son!...................serious ly

chuck has spoken

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ELite_Ghost - 667 days 12 hours ago

k that's what i meant, it makes it smoother, period!
and my tv owns you, bravia boy!

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Bonsai1214 - 667 days 12 hours ago

120hz only impacts movies anyways. it has nothing to do with games.

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gogators - 667 days 12 hours ago

and it's supposedly helps improve against blur in movies by clearing each frame more quickly. It won't help improve your game's picture by increasing the number of frames. Though my 81F 52 inch Samsung back lit LED LCD with 120 hz refresh rating looks very nice when just about any game is played on it.

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Seraphim - 667 days 7 hours ago

4.5 -
k that's what i meant, it makes it smoother, period!
and my tv owns you, bravia boy!

Lol, last I checked Sony and Samsung LCDs are produced on the same line. They're essentially the same flipping thing from top to bottom. The only real thing that differentiates them is the case and name on them. All important features and lcd panels are the same... Matter of fact, the production line was a joint effort by Samsung and Sony. Probably the sole reason Samsung is in the position they're in right now in the LCD market. So for starters get educated on the subject. Secondly don't go talking crap like your Sammy is the bomb and all that over the Bravia. Especially when the words XBR4 come after it... :P Sony and Samsung = Same Quality from top to bottom. No question about it.

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jwatt - 667 days 13 hours ago

Yep just two months!

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EZCheez - 667 days 10 hours ago

Just kidding! It would help though.

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kwicksandz - 667 days 10 hours ago

360 exclusive dlc!

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Kr155 - 667 days 10 hours ago

the games 100 hours long. I don't think most people will finish that let alone care about DLC. no saying noone will and if you do then get the 360 version. Just saying alot of people, myself included, will find it's not a big deal

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-EvoAnubis- - 667 days 6 hours ago

As far as the DLC is concerned, I feel like this. The Shivering Isles pack for Oblivion cost $30. If R* follows a similar pricing structure, then the two episodic DLC packs for GTA4 will cost $60 together. Sixty bucks is a whole new game! I'm sure some will argue with me on this, but I'd much rather buy a whole new game than extensions to one I already own. Particularly in a year when I'm going to be seeing Fallout 3, Prototype, Resistance 2, Little Big Planet, Haze, Eight Days, and possibly even God of War 3.

And as good as those games are going to be and as much as I'm anticipating those, E3 hasn't happened yet, and I'm sure Sony has some cards in their hand that they haven't played yet.

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jwatt - 667 days 13 hours ago

I don't know why I had to look at the open zone. I'm a Sony fanboy and even I know that comment was uncalled for. Read the artical they said both versions look Identical. I know it's the open Zone but come on now!

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Jason 360 - 667 days 12 hours ago

It's obvious that you didn't read it, or listen to the podcast. You could have at least got the information from the title alone, but I don't even think you read that.

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InYourMom - 667 days 12 hours ago

he's just mad because he gets the inferior GTA without all the extra's.

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ikiru3385 - 667 days 10 hours ago

InYourMom,

I think I'd take an "inferior" game over an inferior 2008 lineup.

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baxter - 667 days 10 hours ago

the ps3 version will have HOME integration

Both versions will be over 100 hours long . I seriously doubt whether there is anyone who would even finish the game.

April is a great month for me . GT5 P and GTA4 followed by Haze in May and the MEGA HITTER MGs4 in June.

I am so proud to be a ps3 owner. Not only would i be enjoying the 50 gig MGS4 BD game i would be watching BluRAY movies at 1080p.

Paramount is planning to release Transformers BD in JUNE----WOOOOOT

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Play B3yond - 667 days 9 hours ago

The PS3 has the superior game because it is the superior console,on the other hand the 360 has the inferior game because its the inferior console...Now ya see how that works?

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Snukadaman - 667 days 7 hours ago

I will await that link because being on n4g all this time I have never seen anything about that...and Im sure most of the droids would of used that as a excuse too claim the ps3 version is better....again..I will await that link....on topic...I guess thats why we have not seen any comparison shots of the games since the ps3 version is still not finished....I guess mailman hasn't seen madden 08 in all its 30 fps glory and doesn't know the xbox version is in 60 fps...sucks for him.

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baxter - 667 days 3 hours ago

Burnout ran at 60 frames on ps3 and 30 frames on x360.

DMC4 occasinoally ran at 60 frames on ps3 and 30 frames on x360.

ps3 already has a lot of games which run at 1080p Native at 60 frames per second --examples being NGS,RR7 and the upcoming GT5. same cannot be said for x360.

Had GTA4 been ps3 exclusive then it would have run at 60 frames per second. Graphically GTA4 isnt impressive enough to bog down the frame rate

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Pain - 666 days 20 hours ago

would be 60 fps and and just plain beter if xbox2's crappy old gen hardware wasnt holding this game back.

But hey atleast ill play multiplayer for FREE and be care free minded that my perrty PS3 wont RROD on me for bagging out a 5+ hour killing spree~

and befor the xbot scream DLC!! yawn~ ill be playing LBP by the time that extra snooze fest will be out.

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Snukadaman - 666 days 18 hours ago

there you go again claiming ps3 burnout is 60 fps...I knew it was you ans your bullsheit.....thanks for that confirmation...and whats funny is you have no link for EITHER claim...good job douchebag...both versions of burnout run at 60 fps dummy..stop trying too spread your propaganda... its confirmed the ps3 "bogged" down development of the whole game...seeing its not even out of development yet..so if all the trailers and pics are from the xbox version your claim that the xbox bogged down development fails.....nice try anyways blind droid...go home.

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InYourMom - 666 days 13 hours ago

Yeah, I bet you weren't saying that last year about the PS3.

Gears of War 2, Halo Wars, Ninja Gaiden 2, Left 4 Dead, Banjo Kazooie 3, Splinter Cell 5, etc. Seems like a not so inferior line-up to me.

I won't say that MGS4, LBP, KZ2, RFOM2 are not some heavy hitters but it's the PS3's second year and just like the 360 in it's second year of course big games are going to come out. Considering Uncharted was the last exclusive game to come out for the system it is about time.

Since I own both systems I will own them all! Minus LBP and Halo Wars.

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baxter - 666 days 13 hours ago

Burnout runs at 60 fps on ps3 and 30 fps on x360 ---said by IGN

The video was posted on youtube which was later removed. You can get IGN insider pass and watch the comparison

http://www.highdefforum.com...

Ps3 version has better graphics and better and faster framerate. The news was also posted at N4G

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

***WATCH IGN insider video here :-

http://insider.ign.com/teas...

SNUKA DUKA TUKA PUKA ---GA** BOTTAA PEDOPHILLA

@inyourMUm

you dont own a ps3.

SC:CONVICTION is on PC too with better graphics

LEFT 4 DEAD -- a mediocre looking game also on PC with b graphics

lol at Ninja Gaiden 2 ---what a shame ? is that even a game. Banjo Kajooi ---lol. The only game x360 has is GEARS 2 .

However both Kz2 and R2 will rape Gears 2 in worlwide sales. PS3 would have 2x/3x the userbase as x360 when those games are launched.

MGS4 is alone way bigger than all of those inferior x360 game lineup

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Snukadaman - 666 days 10 hours ago

You cant comprehend the idea of one one person having one account...sorry kid..one account...one person...You can believe everything you want but please stop trying too spread your propaganda...you have been on this website for so long you think your a fixture here...your only fodder for n4g because you bring in alot of traffic with your many accounts....theres not many people with enough time on their hands to make several accounts and log on and agree with themselves but I guess you do....whats even funnier is your such a moron your style can be pointed out every time...both games are 60fps....if not there would of been plenty of articles showing that fact like there were plenty of articles showing madden 08 at being 30 fps....since you cant bring up one link...but a shoddy youtube video that aint even up no more further proves my point that you cant even back up your claims. enjoy this past article nasim.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007...

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Ri0tSquad - 667 days 12 hours ago

Link? Yeah, exactly.

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ikiru3385 - 667 days 10 hours ago

i read in one of the n4g articles that the ps3 version actually uses better AA than the 360 version but the 360 version is smoother. kinda like a reverse on how the console versions usually are.

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tweaker - 667 days 10 hours ago

No AA? you are a misinformed fanboy.

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gEnKiE - 667 days 10 hours ago

So is that your sister suckin on a banana? cause she fugly....

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Sovannah Phum - 667 days 10 hours ago

if she's of age, i'd hit it!

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Play B3yond - 667 days 9 hours ago

thats nasty bcuz if shes of age or not of age shes still ugly as hell

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gEnKiE - 667 days 2 hours ago

omg GETPWNED...Awesome picture! LMAO! I disagree with your comment, but great picture. You should def use that one instead. XD

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Kr155 - 667 days 10 hours ago

no it wouldn't. if there were really any extra room to play R* would add detail and expand the game, environment, textures, AI. GTA will never be more than 30FPS because the goal is to cram more in not make it run faster. good to hear it runs slick though

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baxter - 667 days 3 hours ago

GTA4 doesnt have 100 things on screen so yes had it been made exclusively for ps3 then we would have seen 60 f . How can you run faster at 30 fps. Face it the game was downgraded for making it multiplat

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Kr155 - 666 days 21 hours ago

baxter thats not my point. My point is that if R* did have more power available to them and the game was exclusive then they would not have used that power to make 60FPS. ^0 frames per second has been around on consoles for a long time, they could have made this game 60 frames per second if they wanted too. Locking a game at 30FPS is a development decision. they can either do less graphically and make it faster. or do more and lock it in at 30fps. With this game rock star would have opted to do more rather than get a faster frame rate. Have you seen screen shots of this game? Tell you what, when you get this game goto times square and look down the street and tell me again there aren't hundreds of models being rendered at once not only rendered but moving and interacting with each other without even your imput. There is alot going on in this game thats why it doesn and never will run at 60 FPS.

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InYourMom - 666 days 13 hours ago

all the news that the reason for all the delays in the game was due to PS3 problems. Be happy it's going to even be 30fps.

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Kr155 - 665 days 22 hours ago

SOME of the delays. Check the hand on of the game back before the original october release date. They all ran like crap and they were lal on the 360. it's not like the 360 didn't benefit from the extra dev time. be happy the game runs well on the 360 to.

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uYaSouL - 667 days 8 hours ago

you seriously need to shut the f*ck up already.

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ikiru3385 - 667 days 9 hours ago

for the sake of every gamer out there, R* will optimize both console versions.

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The_Engineer - 667 days 3 hours ago

HOW CAN ANY DEVELOPER ON THE PLANET COMPETE WITH "EARTH DEFENSE FORCE 2017", THAT TITLE IS LEAPS AND BOUNDS BETTER THAN ANYTHING YOU WILL EVER SEE ON THE PS3.

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA A

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Grown Folks Talk - 667 days ago

PS3 has just as many crappy games. Again for those that still don't get it. Developers make the games, not the system. If it were all about the system, every single game would be on par with each other. Clearly, they are not. Some are great, some average, & some just plain suck. Always been that way, always will be that way. 1 last time. The movie doesn't suck because of the theatre, it sucks because of the director.

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InYourMom - 666 days 13 hours ago

He is one of the biggest 360 supporters on this site. Nothing wrong with that. When you have a comment like #1 from MailMan, how in the hell do you say he is the biggest fanboy on this site??

I think I see your logic: Defend the PS3 vigorously and smack talk the 360 = Gamer Defend/Talk positive about the 360 and smack talk the PS3 = Fanboy.

Get off your high horse!

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kingboy - 666 days 14 hours ago

you mean 360 multi ported games right..

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