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Illegal downloaders 'face UK ban'

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People in the UK who go online and illegally download music and films may have their internet access cut under plans the government is considering.

A draft consultation suggests internet service providers would be required to take action over users who access pirated material via their accounts.
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Published: 683 days 5 hours ago | News | Industry News
 
 

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PumPum - 683 days 5 hours ago
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1 - Waste
Waste of energy time and resources.
Its too hard to define which bits and bytes are illegal, almost impossible unless you DL/UL 200gb of movies/week which makes it obvoius.
Current torrent clients have Protocol Encryption (PE), Message stream encryption (MSE) and Protocol header encrypt (PHE).
Besides hackers and pirates(the whole scene) are allways one step
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Things like this and monitoring everyting you do on the net will only make ppl angry and pissed.

What if i download mp3 files from itunes or recieve a mp3 that my friend literally made himself by playing guitar and using a mic and naming the file metallica.mp3. Gonna get sued or cut off because of that?

Companies should reconsider their pricing methods instead.
Paying ~22€(EUROS) for a cd or ~60-75€(EUROS) for a game is pretty F'd up if you ask me and piracy will only grow until changes are made.

50 Cent doesent really need 50 ferraris in hes garage and 10 mansions with a learjet waiting on the airport.
With cutting the price he would still be getting about 25...and thats still enough.

my 2 cents
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Kakkoii - 683 days 5 hours ago
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I think they would check there DNS servers and see what pirated material websites you visit. And thus ban you.

(Of course you could use OpenDNS to avoid that :). But they could still see what IP's your connecting to and ban you for visiting those sites.)

But yeah, Policing the traffic itself is to hard.
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PumPum - 683 days 5 hours ago
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Say what you are saying is that i cant even visit a site like TPB?(which is just a tracker and no files are on the server)

You know many legal files are distributed by torrents linux....etc..
And 99% of illegal content is DL directly from other users(millions of em)
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Kakkoii - 683 days 5 hours ago
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False PumPum. That only really applies to music.

For games and movies. Torrents are the main source for illegal copies of those things. Due to them being such huge file sizes.

And yes there are legal things on TPB. But the majority of the torrents they have are for illegal files. And while what they are doing is legal. An ISP may choose to block them since it is a source for finding illegal material.

Yes the files come from other people. But allowing your customers to download torrents to be able to download that illegal material is something they would want to stop.
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PumPum - 683 days 4 hours ago
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1.4 - Ye i know Kakkoii
But where do they draw the line? I mean you can find lots of illegal things with google for example. They dont host the files either but just like a torrent tracker they have the links to illegal material.
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Kakkoii - 683 days 4 hours ago
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Yeah I know. But unlike google. Pirate Bay is only for torrents. Google is just a search of the web. Even if google brought up illegal material websites. They would have the websites blocked so you couldn't go to them.

But anyways. Yeah it's all confusing as to how everything would work. Theres so many variables and issues to deal with. I wish all this crap would just stop.
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riksweeney - 683 days 5 hours ago
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The worst bit is that ISPs just block all P2P exchanges, meaning that I can't download Linux via a torrent, something that I'm legally entitled to do.

What I have to then do is encrypt my protocol so that I can download the torrent, something that I'm legally entitled to do.
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ravinash - 683 days 4 hours ago
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Plus, wouldn't blocking all P2P exchanges stop online gaming on consoles?
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bourner - 683 days 5 hours ago
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ar - 683 days 5 hours ago
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Here I come.
As much as I want the post office employees going through every mail and packet i send through them and as much as I want my telephone company to listen in on my conversations, as much would I like my ISP to sniff my traffic. That means not at all.
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lyliade - 683 days 5 hours ago
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We are in a prison(a gold one) and nobody sees it! where are our freedom of everything? we ban this and that,they should care about our environment,because government destroy everything is good on this earth.
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BlackCountryBob - 683 days 4 hours ago
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Well, if I get locked into a ISP contract and I wanna switch it sounds like all I need to do is D/L some songs and I am free to switch providers as often as I want.

Stupid idea though, its impossible for an ISP to be able to filter all this stuff and its also a risk of being a slippery slope, what will the government filter next? Porno? anti government sites? non approved news sites? This is how stuff like the great firewall of china starts.

Mr Brown, living in a free country is the ability to choose not to follow the law.
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Azurite - 683 days 4 hours ago
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So they want to lose a huge load of customers?
The ISPs would lose a whole lot of money, and so would the government due to less taxes paid.
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YorkshireGal - 683 days 4 hours ago
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Hiya all

Its time that the government did something to stop all the illegal child pornography that people get over the internet .... now that would be a far better use of their time and resources!

But no, instead of tackling real problems, they will stop people from downloading a couple of songs a month!

This government really has their priorities wrong!

YG xxx
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ar - 683 days 3 hours ago
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Yes and really take care of child pornography at the roots. Going after the producers behind the material and not just using some lame DNS blocking to hide the problem. It wont get rid of it just hide it to those that isn't interested in the material in the first place. If you know how to use google you can bypass DNS filters in seconds.
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nobiggy - 683 days 4 hours ago
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agreed....
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nobiggy - 683 days 4 hours ago
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its a sad sad state of affairs
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LastDance - 683 days 3 hours ago
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11 - Directed at people who illegally download and pirate.
If you guys didnt illegally download in the first place there wouldnt be a problem would there???? you have no one to blame but yourselves... So dont complain you brought it on yourselves.
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Kakkoii - 682 days 19 hours ago
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A lot of people use illegal download as a way to test products before we buy them.

Like video games for example. You download a pirated copy. If you like it then you buy it. If you don't you throw it away.

Obviously not everyone does this. But a lot of people do.

It's also free advertising for companies if the product is actually good, then it's spread throughout the web having millions see it. Helps build a bigger fanbase for a product. And with that they do earn a little more money back again from what they supposedly lost from pirating.
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nobiggy - 683 days 3 hours ago
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i'm illegally downloading as i type i got a terabyte hdd to fill.
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jordan8445 - 683 days 3 hours ago
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I'm laying off for a day, I'll recommence 12 hour-a-day illegal downloading tommorow.
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LastDance - 683 days 3 hours ago
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You guys are really cool....
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ar - 683 days 3 hours ago
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Thanks.
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ben806 - 683 days 2 hours ago
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wouldnt a program like peer gaurdian simply stop the goverment from being able to monitor you?
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ar - 683 days 2 hours ago
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No. Peerguardian only blocks peers with their ip in peerguardian's blacklist to connect to your computer. To prevent anti-pirate organizations and government to check what your sharing. Your traffic through your ISP is still in plain text.
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Rooted_Dust - 683 days 1 hour ago
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That is a bit severe. If I committed fraud over the telephone would I be banned from using a phone ever again? This is just more UK Police state garbage legislation.
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