GT Admit They Don't Turn On Full RGB On The PS3 For Comparisons

JsonHenry - 358 days 14 hours ago

Under what conditions is "Full" supposed to be turned on anyway? How should you know to turn on "full" and not leave it set to normal? Do they turn on the "expanded" option for the 360 when they do these tests?

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pswi60 - 358 days 14 hours ago

Originally Posted by DeusAmbrose
I'm curious about the Copy-Protected HD deal. If its true that the signal is blocked then I can understand at least to an extent. If it is the case they have no place doing these comparisons at all. Comparisons are intended generally to show something at its greatest potential. In a race, a runner doesn't jog more slowly because the other competition isn't capable. Thats complete bullshit.

If this whole HD signal blocked thing ends up being inconsequential to video games, and only applies to movies (which would make sense) then they need to answer for this outrage. I hate seeing injustice. The 360 was created with SD in mind, HD was an aftethought in response to the Playstation. Its design lends itself better to Standard Definition.

If the Playstation is capable of better visuals, but is hindered by puroseful handicap, then the comparison is unfair and void of credibility. Fanboyism aside, which I hope I am free of by saying I'm concerned mostly for the journalistic integrity here and not the Playstation in particular, I think this is outrageous and the equivalent of some carnival/tabloid ranting lie and is nothing but a medium to increase ratings and forum posts.

The fact that they've taken notice isn't enough penance. Either make the comparisons faithful to full potential, or don't make them at all. For christ sake.

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MasterChief2829 - 358 days 14 hours ago

No they use the standard setting because it looks fine through component, the expanded setting is pretty much for VGA people.

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HowarthsNJ - 358 days 14 hours ago

Most of these sites have debug units to run review code so that excuse is not valid.

Not sure what options 360 debug units have. They may not have HDMI at all unless they were changed out for newer versions.

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BrianC6234 - 358 days 13 hours ago

This is really stupid. Maybe they should do a little work and show gamers how to best set up all three consoles. I'm sure all of them have some settings that might help things look or sound better. Or just run better. Instead they're taking the lazy way out. I'd like to see someone do a report on what a lot of the settings mean and if they help. And if they help on old standard TVs.

Who is the idiot who disagreed with me? How can anyone disagree? All I said was they should do some research and tell us how to optimize all three consoles. Anyone who clicked disagree on that is a moron.

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s1lens3 - 358 days 12 hours ago

They should say what tv are they using, cables, and settings. That should be a real comparison.

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Howler9443 - 358 days 12 hours ago

Actually, I understand where this guy from GT is coming from. I mean, "Joe User" isn't necessarily going to be tweaking his console's settings. I know thats pretty general and a lot of us do tweak. But the common user doesn't really know or care that much. They just want to play the game and therefore "out of the box" is probably the best way to do the comparison for all consoles.

WE know how to get the best picture out our respective consoles. But most do not

With that said, perhaps they should take the time to do a second comparison that shows what the games look like when the settings are tweaked. I would go so far as to create a FAQ explaining what is happening and refer to that FAQ from the comparisons.

Just my two cents, which over the course of time has deflated, to a whopping $0.00002 and is therefore worthless! LOL!

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JsonHenry - 358 days 11 hours ago

Yes you can change your reference level on the 360. I have to do it when I use a computer monitor as my screen because the Monitor has a different white default reference level than my LCD TV.

You should not have to change it (on either console) unless you need to change the reference level because of the TV/monitor you are using has as its default white reference level.

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joevfx - 358 days 11 hours ago

your TV supports RGB Full. not all TVs do.

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SlappyMcTaint - 358 days 9 hours ago

What bafoon buys a PS3 or 360 and doesn't optimize the settings for his own personal setup? Fcking morons!

GT: "we just leave the resolution at 480, HD is for pu$$ies."

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Xbox is the BEST - 358 days 8 hours ago

360 has RGB?
STFU
PLAY B3HIND

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The Killer - 358 days 4 hours ago

that GT dont uses good settings for ps3 when comparing it with 360!

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FamilyGuy - 358 days 3 hours ago

LIES!

That's a lie, neither system starts in HD so it has to be changed from "default" for the start. They're changing settings just to play on the "same cabling". -_- L

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TheSadTruth - 358 days 1 hour ago

Tanod obviously doesn't get out much.

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sloth4urluv - 358 days ago

Owning niether system the only thing these comparisons have showed me is that both versions of the games previewed were usually identical. I always knew that the washed out could be either be compinsated for on the PS3 or on the tv itself. Only thing I looked for in the comparisons were missing details (like trees and stuff in the background) and dips in frame rate. Shaders may sometimes look slightly different because during porting they had to be re optimized to work for the specific hardware, but really thats the only differences your going to see in multiplats.
Even without optimization unless you are playing the games side by side your not going to notice or be dissapointed.

No point at trying to find differances in geometry or textures, no point in any developer changing an asset for a already completed game, only thing that needs to change is the engine that runs the game.

Onto the HDMI 1.3 rants.
even if you recorded the 360 using component and the PS3 using HDMI 1.3 your not going to see a differance on a GT HD 480P compressed comparison video.
While obviously a pure digital signal has its benifits, just like the comparisons your only really going to notice the differances if you have two tvs side by side.
For example at work I have two 19" LCDs one is connected to vga and the other DVI (same exact thing as HDMI) and honestly I can barely tell the differance, the vga is slightly fuzzier, but is only relly noticable at text, looking at a picture or something like that its extremly difficult to tell them apart.

Bottomline no real reason to be mad at game trailers, its not like they are claiming that a certian version looks better.

Fanboys are gay and will always see extra detail on their system that really isnt there.

BTW decided to say something before some uninformed fanboy decided to argue with me about DVI and HDMI. Remove the audio layer from HDMI and you have the same exact thing, while the protocols may vary its like sending a BMP in a RAR or a ZIP file the end result is the same exact thing. Analog methods like component or VGA would be comparable to send the image as a jpeg instead.

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Blackfrican - 357 days 20 hours ago

By this logic they would also film PS3 with default composite cables.

I do not understand Sony. When i bought my PS3 off a guy, i thought he screwed me over and kept the HDMI cable. Then to find out that it comes with composite I realized who truly screwed me over. HDMI cables are not expensive.

The instructions for optimizing your screen are horrible in box and online.

For a system with an HD format, and supposedly the best High def graphics in games is it not a bit insulting to un-box your composite cable?

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Tru_Blu - 357 days 19 hours ago

Buried but I have tried full off and full on. Full on is way better, at least for me. I've read some say it's better to turn it off on blu-ray.com, It depends on the TV. The colors 'POP' much better for me with it on.

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rofldings - 358 days 14 hours ago

rofl, some guy on the GT forums posted this picture:

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CRIMS0N_W0LF - 358 days 14 hours ago

I take original Doom over COD4!

Also nice avatar :P I see you changed it. Is it same person?

Asain Women FTW!

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bababrooks - 358 days 14 hours ago

great pics rofldings..........looks like a cod4(360) v resistance fall of man(ps3) comparison. j/k

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Michael Jackson - 358 days 11 hours ago

hahaha! lol at that pic. seriously that made me life. nice find rofldings

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