GT Admit They Don't Turn On Full RGB On The PS3 For Comparisons

JsonHenry - 669 days 12 hours ago

Under what conditions is "Full" supposed to be turned on anyway? How should you know to turn on "full" and not leave it set to normal? Do they turn on the "expanded" option for the 360 when they do these tests?

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pswi60 - 669 days 11 hours ago

Originally Posted by DeusAmbrose
I'm curious about the Copy-Protected HD deal. If its true that the signal is blocked then I can understand at least to an extent. If it is the case they have no place doing these comparisons at all. Comparisons are intended generally to show something at its greatest potential. In a race, a runner doesn't jog more slowly because the other competition isn't capable. Thats complete bullshit.

If this whole HD signal blocked thing ends up being inconsequential to video games, and only applies to movies (which would make sense) then they need to answer for this outrage. I hate seeing injustice. The 360 was created with SD in mind, HD was an aftethought in response to the Playstation. Its design lends itself better to Standard Definition.

If the Playstation is capable of better visuals, but is hindered by puroseful handicap, then the comparison is unfair and void of credibility. Fanboyism aside, which I hope I am free of by saying I'm concerned mostly for the journalistic integrity here and not the Playstation in particular, I think this is outrageous and the equivalent of some carnival/tabloid ranting lie and is nothing but a medium to increase ratings and forum posts.

The fact that they've taken notice isn't enough penance. Either make the comparisons faithful to full potential, or don't make them at all. For christ sake.

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MasterChief2829 - 669 days 11 hours ago

No they use the standard setting because it looks fine through component, the expanded setting is pretty much for VGA people.

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HowarthsNJ - 669 days 11 hours ago

Most of these sites have debug units to run review code so that excuse is not valid.

Not sure what options 360 debug units have. They may not have HDMI at all unless they were changed out for newer versions.

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BrianC6234 - 669 days 11 hours ago

This is really stupid. Maybe they should do a little work and show gamers how to best set up all three consoles. I'm sure all of them have some settings that might help things look or sound better. Or just run better. Instead they're taking the lazy way out. I'd like to see someone do a report on what a lot of the settings mean and if they help. And if they help on old standard TVs.

Who is the idiot who disagreed with me? How can anyone disagree? All I said was they should do some research and tell us how to optimize all three consoles. Anyone who clicked disagree on that is a moron.

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s1lens3 - 669 days 10 hours ago

They should say what tv are they using, cables, and settings. That should be a real comparison.

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Howler9443 - 669 days 10 hours ago

Actually, I understand where this guy from GT is coming from. I mean, "Joe User" isn't necessarily going to be tweaking his console's settings. I know thats pretty general and a lot of us do tweak. But the common user doesn't really know or care that much. They just want to play the game and therefore "out of the box" is probably the best way to do the comparison for all consoles.

WE know how to get the best picture out our respective consoles. But most do not

With that said, perhaps they should take the time to do a second comparison that shows what the games look like when the settings are tweaked. I would go so far as to create a FAQ explaining what is happening and refer to that FAQ from the comparisons.

Just my two cents, which over the course of time has deflated, to a whopping $0.00002 and is therefore worthless! LOL!

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JsonHenry - 669 days 9 hours ago

Yes you can change your reference level on the 360. I have to do it when I use a computer monitor as my screen because the Monitor has a different white default reference level than my LCD TV.

You should not have to change it (on either console) unless you need to change the reference level because of the TV/monitor you are using has as its default white reference level.

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joevfx - 669 days 8 hours ago

your TV supports RGB Full. not all TVs do.

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SlappyMcTaint - 669 days 7 hours ago

What bafoon buys a PS3 or 360 and doesn't optimize the settings for his own personal setup? Fcking morons!

GT: "we just leave the resolution at 480, HD is for pu$$ies."

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Xbox is the BEST - 669 days 6 hours ago

360 has RGB?
STFU
PLAY B3HIND

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The Killer - 669 days 1 hour ago

that GT dont uses good settings for ps3 when comparing it with 360!

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FamilyGuy - 669 days ago

LIES!

That's a lie, neither system starts in HD so it has to be changed from "default" for the start. They're changing settings just to play on the "same cabling". -_- L

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TheSadTruth - 668 days 22 hours ago

Tanod obviously doesn't get out much.

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sloth4urluv - 668 days 21 hours ago

Owning niether system the only thing these comparisons have showed me is that both versions of the games previewed were usually identical. I always knew that the washed out could be either be compinsated for on the PS3 or on the tv itself. Only thing I looked for in the comparisons were missing details (like trees and stuff in the background) and dips in frame rate. Shaders may sometimes look slightly different because during porting they had to be re optimized to work for the specific hardware, but really thats the only differences your going to see in multiplats.
Even without optimization unless you are playing the games side by side your not going to notice or be dissapointed.

No point at trying to find differances in geometry or textures, no point in any developer changing an asset for a already completed game, only thing that needs to change is the engine that runs the game.

Onto the HDMI 1.3 rants.
even if you recorded the 360 using component and the PS3 using HDMI 1.3 your not going to see a differance on a GT HD 480P compressed comparison video.
While obviously a pure digital signal has its benifits, just like the comparisons your only really going to notice the differances if you have two tvs side by side.
For example at work I have two 19" LCDs one is connected to vga and the other DVI (same exact thing as HDMI) and honestly I can barely tell the differance, the vga is slightly fuzzier, but is only relly noticable at text, looking at a picture or something like that its extremly difficult to tell them apart.

Bottomline no real reason to be mad at game trailers, its not like they are claiming that a certian version looks better.

Fanboys are gay and will always see extra detail on their system that really isnt there.

BTW decided to say something before some uninformed fanboy decided to argue with me about DVI and HDMI. Remove the audio layer from HDMI and you have the same exact thing, while the protocols may vary its like sending a BMP in a RAR or a ZIP file the end result is the same exact thing. Analog methods like component or VGA would be comparable to send the image as a jpeg instead.

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Tru_Blu - 668 days 16 hours ago

Buried but I have tried full off and full on. Full on is way better, at least for me. I've read some say it's better to turn it off on blu-ray.com, It depends on the TV. The colors 'POP' much better for me with it on.

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rofldings - 669 days 12 hours ago

rofl, some guy on the GT forums posted this picture:

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CRIMS0N_W0LF - 669 days 11 hours ago

I take original Doom over COD4!

Also nice avatar :P I see you changed it. Is it same person?

Asain Women FTW!

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bababrooks - 669 days 11 hours ago

great pics rofldings..........looks like a cod4(360) v resistance fall of man(ps3) comparison. j/k

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Michael Jackson - 669 days 9 hours ago

hahaha! lol at that pic. seriously that made me life. nice find rofldings

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InYourMom - 669 days 8 hours ago

That was the funniest thing I've read all day. It does look like COD4 vs Resistance..

Go on and keep making excuses for your console Sony cry babies. Despite what the wacko group on here thinks, GT is respected as the most reliable game comparisons on the net.

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wallace1000 - 669 days 2 hours ago

@rofldings That picture is sweet, i laughed my ass off. TANOD we don't need the microsoft conspiracy theories, they aren't paying people off to give bad reviews or make sure settings are tweaked!

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Pain - 668 days 20 hours ago

Busted like this guy!

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CrazzyMan - 669 days 9 hours ago

http://super.gameshot.net/p...
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GT did LAME thing, instead of showing BEST image they could get from BOTH systems, they just show default.

This good for CASUALs, but NOT for GAMERs.

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kornbeaner - 669 days 6 hours ago

bubbles for u!!

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Howler9443 - 669 days 9 hours ago

@LJWooly

LJWooly, he didn't quite catch you on your grammer. While it does appear that starting a sentence with a conjunction is an American idiosyncrasy, that doesn't mean that its totally incorrect either.

Please refer to the following link.
http://dictionary.reference...

Basically, it appears that while not the best solution, it is acceptable for "informal" writing, while formal documents should avoid the practice of starting a sentence with a conjunction at all times.

I hope this helps. I only mention this because I was curious on the correctness of the usage as well.

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Jenzo - 669 days 12 hours ago

That is just sad.

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LJWooly - 669 days 9 hours ago

And hopefully he teaches his kids grammar better than your parents taught you, mate.

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Amnesiac - 669 days 9 hours ago

Because starting sentences with "And" is good grammar, right?

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LJWooly - 669 days 9 hours ago

Alright, good eye there, mate. You caught me out :)

Still, at least i'm not as bad as poos3.

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InYourMom - 669 days 7 hours ago

Soon the PS3 droids are going to have to stop making excuses and accusations. The crap that everyone is paid off to hate Sony, dev's haven't learned The Cell, etc. Everyone is at fault here but Sony.

From someone who owns both systems(and really if you don't own both you should really STFU about comparisons) I see the problems between mutliplatform games on the PS3 vs. 360; this stuff isn't made up.

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JBaby343 - 669 days 8 hours ago

That's about what they are saying. Set all the machines to optimal settings and show the videos. If it does truly run better on one versus the other (whether 360 or PS3) then so be it. But I want it the best it can be.

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mighty_douche - 669 days 12 hours ago

ah my personal favourite fragrance!!

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