WWE SmackDown vs. RAW 2008 Hands-On: 360 version looks better

THQ recently invaded Washington D.C. to give journalists another taste of its upcoming brawler, WWE SmackDown Vs Raw 2008, and thankfully, the final version plays better than the preview copies we received a couple of weeks ago.

The Preview goes on to say "Sorry PS3 owners, but your version actually looks worse than the Xbox 360 edition, thanks to anti-aliasing issues that prevent THQ from smoothing jagged edges, resulting in sloppy looking superstars that pale in comparison to their much more attractive Xbox 360 alter egos."

[predator]

lazy developers again?

anti-aliasing issues has poped up again, hope developers sort this out before i pick up a ps3

[DeadlyFire]

Developers are just picking a favorite console it seems. THQ and Yukes suck as awlays when it comes to issues with their games. They are tring to port from the X360 version again only this time onto the PS3. Dumbasses. SVR 2007 was crap on the PS2 when they ported it to that. I won't be surprised to see 30 or so FPS max as well for PS3 version. Most things that are ported to PS3 get 30 FPS max when not coded to use both RSX and Cell to do graphics. Likely it might happen for this game as well. I love the series either way though and I am aiming to pick up the X360 version anyway.

I can't wait to see Midway school them though with TNA Impact! in Mid 2008.

[Owner360-PS3]

Here comes the flamers and whiners again.

[paracardium]

How come Ratchet and Heavenly sword have no jaggies? I don't get it lol.

[skitzoid]

how come franchise games like Halo 3 and Forza 2 do?

[AllanWakker]

It just keeps getting better and better!

The Xbots have finally turned into Dreamcast freaks completely. Desperately sitting around in console forums trying to convince the world that their crappy and underpowered system is worth owning.

Love it! So amazingly pathetic!

You know those pathetic Dreamcast freaks who pop up in PS2 discussions every once in a while until they get laughed right out of the forum?

Xbots, that's you in two to three years...

[Multigamer]

dude shut up

[sjappie]

Wtf are you talking about? Everything was cool till you showed up instegating. I've never ignored someone before, but I think you will have the honor of being the first, congrats @sshole!

[Witty Comment]

anyone has to say about it; DreamCast was AWESOME.

[bluebrad1974]

reported for being spam

[skagrerrrr]

hilarious

[gamesblow]

The proof of PS3's power is in their exclusive games. R&C, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Uncharted... Motorstorm. All eclipse anything I've seen on the xbox 360. When you're talking 3rd party multi core dev kits... Yeah, the ps3 is a weak link. When you're talking specific content for the cell, the ps3 shines above anything the xbox 360 has produced. Simple and clean.

[bluebrad1974]

That's just wrong. I can agree that ps3 exclusives usually look better than multi-plats, but it's usually like that for all consoles. Ps3 exclusives looking above and beyond anything for 360 is flat bullshot. Gears of War faceplants anything on ps3. And the sad news for ps3 owners is that it looks like Mass Effect is about to faceplant Gears in the graphics department.

[socomnick]

yea gears of war, mass effect and bioshock takes a sh|t on all of the ps3 exclusives to date.

[Xbox is the BEST]

me something that I don't know. Everyone knows that 360 has better graphics

[V2oom]

PS3 looking better would be newsworthy.
360 looking better is to be expected.

[gamesblow]

Also, keep in mind THQ has already got a working engine for the 360. They released last year on the 360... PS3 was MIA. That extra dev time has no doubt helped their cause a little bit. We all know the ps3 is a complicated system to work on. This isn't news... It's not even a year old, at that. I'm seeing way more impressive stuff on the ps3 than I am on the xbox 360 "given both 1st year runs on the market" The xbox 360 didn't have near the content the ps3 has it's 1st year, yet we like to forget that.

[BIGBAER]

Xbox 360 launched with COD2 and PGR3 which were and are, true-AAA titles. Hell, COD2 looked better than RFOM and it was released a full year earlier!

The 360 had 3-4 times the games its first year as compared to the delay-ridden PS3. I know; I own most of them.

It's okay to support your console of choice... but don't be an idiot. You only make yourself look bad.

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By the way, if you want to see a game I think the PS3 would have a hard time handling try watching PGR4 in action. The buildings and environments are photo-realistic and the dynamic weather system is second to none! In fact, the cities featured are so true-to-life that it's almost a fault as it is so awe-inspiring it easily becomes distracting!

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@gerrard below: No, PGR4's 3-D photorealistic environments are second to none. The perfect reflections, lighting and extreme---EXTREME details are the best of any console game to date.

With no disrespect, you are either a liar---OR you simply have never seen PGR4 in action. I'm hoping for the latter; it's easier to correct.

[gerrard]

PGR4 vs true photorealistic GT5: Prologue NUFF SAID!

[montavious]

Sorry 8.2 bumper cars is not racing!

[ssbains]

AAA titles prove their are no anti-aliasing issues & Ratchet & Clank, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, etc.

So its not the hardware, its the software developer who has not taken the time to finesse their game engine - the blame lies on the coder i.e. developer and not the console.

Stick to the facts ..... PEACE!

[montavious]

Its cost more to produce for the PS3 right now, and that gap is not shrinking as the games go on. Right now is a critical moment with software sales and third-party developers. Why spend more money to sell less copies?

[crazy25000]

if this game was worth it, id be pissed, but this and VF5 were crap.....the gameplay was horrible

and im judging this game because i never liked these games, im just waiting for street fighter HD and 4 to come out, these are the real fighting games

[crazy25000]

i totally agree with you man, developers need to start doing their jobs instead of expecting Microsoft or Sony to wipe their asses for them

[Fighter]

2007 sucks for the PS3. Next year these devs should be able to overcome their difficulties in developing for the PS3. The head start paid off for the 360 in a huge way.

[Bathyj]

Sad but true.

I think its a pretty sh*tty world where M$ gets rewarded for screwing 20 million of their own customers.

Luckily for PS3 owners its not the hardware lacking. First party title are proof of that and cant be touched. Other devs will get their Sh*t together. Its just a shame the Bots jump on this sorts of thing like its a godamn acheivement for them or something. They seem to need that little pat on the head to reassure themselves.

[xg-ei8ht]

Heavenly sword x4msaa.

Ratchet and Clank x4msaa.

Superior looking titles compared to a crappy wrestling game,lmao.

Have you seen the new ps3 ad's, Totally Awsome.

http://www.gametrailers.com... owns any ad there is.

Xbots will be running for cover this christmas.

Sorry but if you like wrestling anyway, gotta be something wrong, watching guys jump about in just pants for fun, if your a bloke check which sex u actually like. hahahahah

[skitzoid]

I miss the days of Asmiks wrestling engine. That was the most fun I ever had with a wrestling game. I played the demo Smackdown vs Raw and it's that same boring, robotic, methodical crap.

It's a shame Asmik has disappeared and no one picked up the copy rights to their gameplay engine.

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

multiplatform use engines that are last-gen 180-optimised, this is why the multiplatform can run better on last gen hardware, the games arent powerful enough to perform better on a true, and THE only next gen which IS PS3, exclusives on ps3 really murda all 180 games, thats why these articles are funny, no other platform competes with ps3 games, as far as exclusives, there happen to be games on ps3 that are movie, and in realtime, so get out son

[felidae]

ok, it's not Sony's fault .. but it's just sad.

[Bladestar]

"Simply boycott THQ and don't buy their jaggy crap"! LOL... yeah do that... as matter of fact.. boycott every 3rd party developer making games for both platforms... heck.. including konami.. the maker of Metal Gear... since their last socker game for the PS3 is having problems..
it seems as if you PS3 gamer will endup with only exclusive... 1st or 2nd party games...

Do you know what happened when a developer is working on an exclusive game for 1 console... let me give you an scenario..

Developers making game for PS3 only:

Developer 1: We are having problems using these textures... they consume too much ram and they are creating framerate issues specially when we have 5,000 trees on this level...

Developer 2: mmmm... ok... drop the number of trees to 4,000... reduce the ressolution of those textures by 10%...

(How would you know that games assets where reduced or defined based on what the hardware can handle?)

Now for games being released on 2 platform.. specially the ones where the xbox 360 is the base platform... and the xbox 360 version is complete.. developer can't just drop stuff of the PS3 version... you people would go wild! Developers have to try to make it work for the PS3....

This is why you can't compare a game being released only for one console... How can we ever know if the PS3 could run Gears... or that the PS3 could run bioshock... or that the xbox 360 could run motorstorm? we simple don't know... Duhhh... that developers will not released exclusive PS3 games with framerate issues... (though some still do)... you don't know what you don't know... they could remove stuff.. until the framerate is not an issue.. and you would never know..

[Says you]

system I mean come on what did they find thats better oh thats right nothing considering they makeup all that crap up to make the MDF excited about there crappy product that cant last for more than one second! their just making crap up considering such a low standered game system such as that doesnt have games that are CG and they go ahead and find multiplatform games and make a little big deal out of it and try to make the other side of the fans of that console jealous since they know there system cant even make a cg game how pathetic!.

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

the fact is the 180 just cant display the graphics that the ps3 is capable of, the cell is the same chip that sony uses for making their movies, and rsx is used to synthesis hollywood level movie graphics in realtime, there is no way you can put ANY and i mean ANY platform against the ps3 in pure graphics rendering, they have and onboard supercomputer, and onboard render farm, if a developer really wanted they could make a movie run in realtime on ps3, it would take time and money, but it can be done, and could not be manipulated on any other plaform, or any comming, that is why i laugh when i hear pc fans say that crysis and some other pc games are to much for ps3, cause we have really seen nothing but a side of a corner of the tip of the iceburg of the first year of a generation of ps3, the machine will not end, and is growing, so please stop being delusional with saying,"how do we know that 180 cant do killzone 2?" cause it simply cant display billions of polygons onscreen, outside of a cg cutscene, killzone looks like a darn cg movie, dont you get it, nothing compares to it, you can say crysis all you will, but that aint even on anywhere near a level of killzone 2 and other ps3 games that are like cg, crysis is a game that is photo-shot in a real life jungle, its truly not all that great graphics like pc people and crytek have built the hype up to be, killzone 2 was still mistaken as cg, this has NEVER happend with crysis or any other 180 game, so crysis looks only about 1/4 of what pc fans have built the hype for the graphics up to be, if crysis was the 4th best looking pc game, they wouldnt even care if someone said that there was a game that looks better than it, and superior to it, but since they think its the best looking pc game, which i think that these are:

-project offset
-farcry 2
-UT3
-Wardog
-cell factor

those are the true pc games that i could probably compare to a ps3 game, that is exclusive of course, other than UT3, but these are the games, stop using crysis, its really not.......that...........great

[Death]

If the PS3 was nearly as powerfull as you think, Pixar would replace their equipment with a $399 PS3. Yes, in theory the PS3 is one name taking, ass kicking machine. A super computer for $399? That is beyond laughable. I agree, the hardware is capable of much more than what shows. The problem lies on the business side of the system. If it is not worth the time and money to trully get more out of the system, then devs will not do it. You need to understand that devs are in the business to turn a profit. I am sure one middleware gets better it will make sense economically, but for now it costs too much to develop for the PS3 primarily.

All the power in the world is worthless if you can't use it. There is more to the PS3 than specifications.

-Death

[gerrard]

Get your facts straight. The Ps3 has already shown what it's capable of for example Uncharetd Drakes Fortune has shown what can be done and they're only using 30% of it's capabilities compared to the 93% of the x360's and I've yet to see anthing on x360 that comes close to matching it.

[Death]

Show me where devs are using 93% of the Xbox 360 compared to 30% of PS3's. I agree, netiher console is using 100%, but the point I was making is the business model for devs to dedicate additional resources towards PS3 is not there. This is especially true for multi-platform games which should be pretty obvious by now. There is no doubt that the PS3 shouldn't have games at the very least equal to 360's, but appearantly something exists that keeps that from happening on a consistant basis.

Games made exclusively for the PS3 can look very good, but the key is they need to be developed for the PS3 from the ground up. This is where it gets complicated since the PS3 still has a limited hardware install base and a low attach rate. Unless you are a second or first party dev, there isn't much incentive to develop for the platform exclusively. This is what gets us back to ports that are not at the same level of quality as 360's.

Once again, when middleware gets better and devs have better tools and experience with the PS3 this should change. I would expect in the next 6-12 months we should see more consistancy with multi-platform titles.

-Death

[dale1]

well this game is on all systems and they mention ps3 only as jaggie what about the wi ps2 psp, same was said about pes 2008 on ps3 and what was it some sh*t tv a reveiwer of all people was using lol
pes on the ps3 is much better than the 360 with a decent lcd tv i don,t know about the old crtv i don,t own such rubbish
but 360 can,t pump out 720p at the best of times so maybe he was using an old crtv to reveiw this game

[xg-ei8ht]

Its got nothing to do with removing stuff, i get what your saying pc etc. Drop this Drop that.

That is not the problem, Still many of these companies do still not fully understand cell, its been proven many times. Thats why insomiac, naughty dog are sharing info on how best to run games etc.

Its moving in the right direction, but its gonna take time. Its not Ps3 owners should worry over tbh, There are many better looking games with no slowdown.

I've seen ut3 run on a 7800gs and looking very sweet as well, with a single core processor.

Hence, Gears of War,UT3,Bioshock would all run with ease on the ps3. Because these companies actually know what they are doing.

I think the xbox360 could run motorstorm, but i doubt it would be able to run motorstorm 2, thats all i'll say the that subject:)

[Neurotoxin]

Jesus Wept! You know what i`m a PS3 owner, and some of you Fanplebs really are a bunch of irratitating Fu*ktards.

Do you have to make a point everyday to make a complete toss out of yourself. If you feel the need to, go outside, take a deep breath and have a dump outside in the street instead of coming on here and showing how immature you actually are.

Some xbox360 titles are better multiplatform, some are not. DEAL WITH IT!

Not to say that the 360 bunch are any better, it just seems personnally i would like to point out that some PS3 fans are NOT Plebs and do come on here just for news and intelligent imput in gaming news, What you get though are the 12+ age groups Crapping about pointless nonsense.

[xg-ei8ht]

Crysis Does look special when in 1280x1024, full up dx10, or with dx9 and a little hack that turns on dx10 fx:) Its very sweet.

The trouble is, to run the game stable full up, you need a hefty system. Vista also is badly dragging framerates down, this was even stated by the creator of DX.

That said, i think 360 and ps3 could run crysis pretty well. Streaming textures of course, but i think it would run fine.

I'd actually like to see it, but then again farcry 2 will probably go console, but its the same engine anyway.

[gamesblow]

Oh, I almost forgot... Why the hell would I care about THQ's crap ass wrestling game, based on a 10 year old engine when I'm going to be playing Fire Pro this month? If I wanted to play a 10 year old engine, I'll play the best one around. Fire pro, baby.

[dork0783]

let microsoft have this GEN already!you won the last two u GREEDY BASTERDS!

[mesh1]

the 360 wins again it has extra memory for better AA guys the truth is that there is game coming out this year on console that comes close to the graphics of gears of war maybe except MAss effect and oo gears has full AA no sighn of jagerrs any were an the character modeling in gears of war is the best in any format INC pc.

[FullyLoaded420]

I'm really getting tired of excuses...I'm still waiting for the "Blow the 360 out the water graphics" as sony promised ALOT of us. Their games SHOULD be "BY FAR" the best in the industry. NOT "close enough", NOT even "SLIGHTLY"...they should be "NOT EVEN CLOSE!!"

the way sonyfanidiots spewt out....BLU-RAY, The CELL...etc...
its the way it should be right??!!

[BloodySinner]

It's the way it should be but it isn't, obviously. I'm glad I wasn't one of the early adopters of the system to drop $600. Really wasn't worth it then and it wasn't paying off now.

[InMyOpinion]

di di dum dum dum another site bias the dust.

[BloodySinner]

Again and again... =/

[midgard229]

annoying, seriously who cares, its the devs faults. not the console, if Ninja gaiden sigma, can run at 1080i, 60 frames per second self lighting and have no anti alias issues, its clearly the dev's faults. hey maybe they dont liek ps3 so they wanna make it seem like ps3 sux.

360 and ps3 rock, its the devs that suck thats all

[Enigma_2099]

You ALL have the tendency to be a little nuts!

[timmyrulz]

regarding the graphical prowess of the ps3 the same four games seem to be mentioned, they are ratchet and clank, lair, heavenly sword and etc, has anyone played etc? is it a good game??.......

[jack who]

tebh cellllllll