Skate : Xbox360 / PS3 Image Comparison

Here's a side-by-side image comparison of both console versions of Skate, highlighting some differences.

[DrWan]

This is actually one of the first comparison I can say, i clearly see more anti-aliasing problems with the xbox than I do on the Ps3, PS3 wins in my opinion in terms of static imagery. Although i think the xbox is more than capable of doing away with those jaggie giving more dev. time, i think this is something we will have to live with multiplatform games, and actually that's why i am pretty outspoken against multiplatform games because it brings down the overall potential of any game, on any system. you have got to work with simutaneous release schedules as well as a lowest common denominator (unless the games are built totally separately from each other)

[nasim]

UnSurprisingly IGN scored the x360 version higher.

BUT we all know IGN and GAMESPOT

IGN and GS gave TWO WORLDS a 7.0 and 6.8 respectively when unbiased sites like DOUPE CZ (polish) and GAMESPY have given the game 1/10 and 2/10 respectively . They termed it as the worst RPG ever created .

for video comparisons

people just go here

www.gamevideos.com

ps3 version looks miles better

BTW PEOPLE HERE IS THE HD FOOTAGE of comparison video

http://www.gamevideos.com/v...

yea PS3 VERSION LOOOOKS milesssssss better at HD.
I wonder if upscaled to 1080p x360 version would become washed out since eDRAM becomes ineffective at 1080p.

I agree with you STELLA --x360 is a 480p console actually

@BOTS

you dont have to quote from IGN cuz the VIDEO proves that ps3 version is wayy better

@ STELLA ----you are so sweet habibti

BTW edram is not a system/video ram..It is just a catalyst that makes up for the lack of bandwidth for x360 and is effective only at rez of 720p and lower.

X360 has a low bandwidth of 25.6g/s( shared by both vdo+system)

ps3 has 48g/s of bandwidth ( 25.6g/s for video and 22g/s for system)

ps3 has XDR ram @3.2ghz . This is what makes the difference

@dreaver ...the bandwidth for eDRAM doesnt contribute to the overall system /vdo bandwidth.

It is just there to compensate for x360 lack of total bandwidth --22g/s

and is ineffective at 1080p . This is why no x360 game can run NATIVELY at 1080p at 60 fps.

RR7 ran at 1080p at 60fps on ps3(if u are unaware)

ps2 had 4m of eDRAM too which makes up for lack of VDO /SYSTEM bandwidth but only at lower resolutions

RSX can do 136 shader ops per second
x360 can do 96 shader ops per second

ps3 can do 51 billion dot products per second
x360 can do 33 billion dot products per second

http://www.gamespot.com/fea...

[Stella]

The PS3 version is obviously better.

The jaggies that plague 360 games is directly due to the stupid graphics hardware design with the too small for 720p 10megs of EDRAM.

What that means is that developers are faced with a choice of having to either write a custom tile renderer to break up each scene into parts that can fit a section of the frame buffer and its AA information or give up on decent AA.

A tile renderer is both a pain in the ass to write and hurts performance. So almost no developers bother with it. Instead they usually just put out bogus screenshots with fake AA - PGR3,Forza 2,Gears of War are the worst culprits of trying to lie about the EDRAM problem on the 360.

The 360 is really a 480p system being forced to handle a resolution it wasn't designed for, 720p. A 4xAA 480p framebuffer fits exactly into the 10meg EDRAM.

If Microsoft didn't force developers to run their games at 720p 360 games could have the same high quality AA as PS3 games.

[romaink]

Do you even know what you're talking about?!

[radzy]

QUOTED FROM IGN:

"The PS3 and Xbox 360 versions are almost identical, save two things. The PS3 features some limited Sixaxis control. You can maneuver your board with tilts and do powerslides by pulling up. It's pretty much useless though and is off by default for good reason. The other difference, unfortunately, is one that has become commonplace among EA's multiplatform titles. skate on PS3 is the cross-eyes sister to the 360 version. There's a lot of aliasing issues and the game in general is blurry (possibly to hide some of the jaggies). The framerate, which is perfect on 360, is choppy on PS3. It isn't enough to affect the gameplay, but it's certainly noticeable."

EDIT : here is the link for the non believers;

http://au.ps3.ign.com/artic...

[BBsin]

There's no need to post a quote from the ign review as these comparison shots prove the point that there are more jaggies on the 360 version opposed to the PS3 version. The whole point of this comparison was to point out that the ign was wrong in terms of jaggies and textures with side by side proof. Framerate however should be better on the 360, unless proven wrong.

[True Gamer King]

All your doing is making up bull sh1t, and all of you that agreed with Stella are also obviously sonyfanboys in denial. The 360 is completly capable of 720p, and 1080p, while showing up the PS3 and making all of you sonyfans mouths drop in amazment. Both consoles can handle 1080p let alone 720p, and by saying other whys prves your a sonyfanboy. Both consoles show off great graphics but when it comes down to it almost all multi platform games look better on the 360, and the 360s exclusives have also looked better than the PS3s. The 360 outperforms the PS3 on every level(better exclusives, better online, more customization, easier for developers wich means better games and less time it takes to make the games, graphics so far have looked better on the 360, more user friendlt, and it's cheaper) the only thing the PS3 has over the 360 is free online, but I would gladly pay 60 bucks a year for a better online service. And as for the 360 being less reliable I havn't had any problems with my 360, and now they have a 3 year warranty and there making more reliable 360s and fixing the old ones.

Both consoles are worthy of being nextgen but the 360 is a better console.

[secret]

Why does Motorstorm look and run so much better than Skate or any game coming out of EA, though?

Why does MGS4 and Grand Turismo 5 look and run so well, too? Same with Killzone 2 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

[b777conehead]

to radzy
i don't care that a mag are website say they look identical. i can see with my own eyes the ps3 looks better

[SWORDF1SH]

its nice to see these sort of comparison but even better if it wasnt followed by a ton of fanboy comments.

[Chris_GTR1]

actually ...now that i think of it... i think this thread is complete BS. In the IGN review the guy specifically gave the ps3 version .2 lower because of the antialising and choppy framerate. so obviously whoever posted this lied and changed the names of the consoles to the pictures , labeling the ugly ones as 360.
obviously since its posted in the ps3 fanboy website

[Ri0tSquad]

Were taken from a comparison video. And in that video the ps3 version did look like those pictures.

[Ju]

Hey, something new! Now, no, no, not the quality is bad, now the consoles have been changed in the picture. Because it is known as a fact the "XBox 360 is the better console"(TM). (whohaha).

[gunnar2906]

OMG!! Do you really think that sonyboys can do this? pix replacements
But .... smells like it is xbot's style .... did you do that before? Where did you hear/see that at first time?
Do you hear an inner voice on regular basis? Did it ask you to kill your parents?

[power of Green]

Never know what PS3 fans are up to.

EDIT:

They don't tell us if PS3's using HDMI or what 360 they're using or what cables no way of knowing if they tampered with anything.

[DJ]

Anistropic Filtering levels; it's completely dependent on the hardware.

[Tabasco]

Derrrrrrrr. That's the problem with every comparison video and shot, but until now when a comparison favors the ps3 you didn't see that. If a ps3 fanboy would have said that bs about the cables and such you all would have flamed him and called him a sonyfangirl. I find it too convenient you are just figuring this out now that no comparison shot can be trusted, yes even the one you always back up. well guess what these shot here are just as reliable as the one's that favor the 360!

[gerrard]

you sure know your stuff LOL

[The Wood]

ill look forward to hear you same thing next time theres a comparison where the ps3 looks worse but i wont hold my breath.

[GoLeafsGo]

..had the PS3 version been the lesser of the two, even if it had come DIRECTLY from Microsoft, Xbots would be approving this in an instance.
There would be no questioning of cables, or labels.

Sad, isn't it?

@PoG
Nice job with the edit. Heh.

[Chris_GTR1]

well are you forgetting its a EA game. and by being so its automatically superior on the 360. ill even go as far as to say EVERY EA game has been superior on the 360. and since yesterdays IGN review said the same thing this is obviously BS made up pictures

[gunnar2906]

do you mean EA create its games better for the 360 advisedly?
Hm... Then I'm not going to invest my money in bribery. I'd better do in technology....

it is weird

[360RULEZ]

Xbox360's version runs better.

Even multiplatform games are Xbox360 exclusives in a sense, because sony versions get released after months/years ... and they're inferior versions.

It took FEAR and Oblivion years to get released on ps3 after their release on Xbox360, to match the latter's quality.

Simultaneous multiplatform release = suckfest for sony's console.

[power of Green]

It's no secret I do not trust PS fans or their media and sources. Too many slanderish methods and tricks, Hell I just cought a PS3 supporter the other day trying to fool people using pics from older PGR games miximg them with PGR4 pics. No need to list the dozens of other PS3 misshaps.

[Mr PS3]

listen to all the xbums crying like babies Ha Ha face the facts the pictures Dont lie what a difference blame anything you want but the 360 version looks lazy and crap Fact This is what next gen is about pitty your 360 can't handle it want more proof does your precious Halo 3 look any better than Halo 2 !!!
AGREED

[Chris_GTR1]

reviews dont lie either. so 360 version>>>ps3 version.

[TheExecutive]

Huh... well since this thread is full of people on my ignore list I cant really comment on what they have said... however, these screens are taken off of the Gamevideos.com comparison. They are the correct screens and they do represent the consoles correctly. Download the HD version from Gamevideos.com if you dont believe me.

So all you people saying this is fake can go ahead and download it for yourself. I am not going to say either way because I dont think its a big enough difference when in motion to really give a sh!t but fanboys need to point out every little thing about every game. You dumba$$es are so worried about proving which system is better that you seem to have forgotten that gaming is for fun and no matter what system you have this game should be something different than Tony Hawk.

[Mr PS3]

can kiss my A$$ infact all the people who think its cool to say your ignored well it aint your just a bunch of over sensitive loosers
AGREED

[Chris_GTR1]

OMG! how dare you use that avatar!

[TheExecutive]

or maybe people dont like to have to read through the same sh!t by the same people over and over and over and over and over and over and over. The people on my ignore list are trolls that do nothing to move along conversation, they say nothing but fanboyish comments in order to start flame wars. Over sensitive? NO. Dont want to read the same stuff over and over and waste my time? YES.

@Chris

lol sorry dude but ive had this avatar forever... it has nothing to do with you personally... but it is funny as he!!

[tfur]

"Huh... well since this thread is full of people on my ignore list I cant really comment on what they have said..."

Good one... My ignore list is getting larger by the day as well... LOL...

[power of Green]

Is it true Sony went to Wikki Pedia and tried to tarnish Halo 3?, if so sould I believe PS3 forums?, like I was saying about the member on this site and PGR4 should I take you people with a gran of salt.

[InMyOpinion]

Would'nt be that hard to switch sides on the pictures and call the PS3 version 360 etc. Why else would IGN say that the PS3 version had more than the 360 version.

Hmmm...Who should you trust? An obviously biased forum like ps3forums.com or one of the biggest (if not the) gaming sites known for it's great reviews and objective journalism? Hard choice, innit?

[TheFatOne]

If this is true i think IGN gave this .2 off b/c of anti-aliasing then thats some messed up stuff, but I don't think they would do that b/c they are bias (they might have and i'm not completely ruling it out)I think they would do that to stir up the pot and get hits to their site. Hey thats just me and my two cents.

edit: by they I mean the reviewer, and not necessarily IGN.

[cloud360]

IGN gave this .2 off ......

so tthat guy was a fanboy...

then again this was created by EA and its presient Peter Moore of xbox

[Lakuspakus]

Who can say they would notice these differences in-game?

[TheExecutive]

The answer is nobody.

[GoLeafsGo]

Well, when IGN 'noticed' it the other way, the Xbots were out in full force.

What's changed now? It's against the precious 360?
Jeez.

People need to have an objective view on such matters, rather than subjective.
Then again, if they did, we wouldn't have quality idiocy coming from fanboys of all consoles and companies.

[jackdoe]

Lol. Who gives a damn. If it plays the same, who gives a damn about a miniscule difference. 360 fanboys and PS3 fanboys are both blowing this and the IGN review out of proportion. Its not like this is Madden 08.

[BIadestarX]

As usual... this pictures were specifically made to make the xbox 360 look bad. Ofcourse there will be a response to this and more comparisons will be released to prove this article useless...
Sadly PS3 fanboys will believe anything their Fanboys sites tell them.
If this information would come out of a non-sony fanboy site than I would probably believe it... but since the source is hard core anti-xbox 360 site.. than I will take this as BS...

Besides... take a look at where these videos came from. They are not DIRECT Feeds.. they are print screens from "Game Videos" clips... you want one version to look worst? ALl you have to do is change the size and zoom.

Next time you Sony fanboys try doing a comparison.. you may want to try using a direct feed.

[CPTN MITCHELL]

yo why can u admit that the game looks like crap on the dumbox360. and how in the hell do u see zooming in the game, cause i can't see it. the problem is that when a game looks better on the PS3 ya ms fanboys get all mad ya can take it admit it the ps3 looks better

[vaan]

I can't really see much of a difference you guys. One a little brighter or darker than the other? SLight AA here and there.

[Daxx]

There is a difference but it's very slight.

[power of Green]

You post all that bullshit because of this very first game thats being released at the same time" supposedly looks better?.

[TheXgamerLive]

Sorry, there's no merit to this. It's fixed. The ps3 version is the worse version here not the better.

look at an actual comparison done by an official gaming site and not a pissed off sony fan.

[Spike47]

powerofgreen it was a sony employee, not the whole company of SOny who decided to mes around with halo.

the ps3 version seems better, period.

you xbots are so immature, what if ign's review of skate was vindicated? Or just plain wrong?

once again, xbots are just mad that their version sucked, and too immature to take it like men.

Besides, it's EA, what a coincidence that since peter moor's arrival at EA things have been turning out really strange, and he was payed alot of money too, hmmm i wonder why.

[Salvadore]

This is so sad.

[xaphanze]

WHAT?!!!
and IGN said the 360 version was better? No way.
It's the ps3 version that should score higher not the 360 one and we all know that. The comparison is speaking for itself.

[AcidRhain]

well the 360 version apparently isn't riddled with framerate problems like the usual ps3 game.

[DJ]

The 360 version has 2x Anti-aliasing while the PS3 looks like it's at 4x. The anistropic filtering level on the 360 version isn't all that high either. Black Box games has more experience with the 360 hardware, but this will probably be the standard within a year or so. PS3 has a bandwidth and memory advantage, which is why I say that.

I bet Microsoft is kicking themselves for making the 360's GPU ED-RAM 30% the capacity it should have been; it really would've put Xenos on equal footing with RSX. =/

[Xi]

uhh, 360 has more memory allocation with the inclusion of the edram, but nice try DJ.

[Stella]

"it really would've put Xenos on equal footing with RSX."

Not even close.

The stupid too small EDRAM design on the 360 just makes life miserable for developers and ends up giving 360 games poor AA most of the time.

Xenos is just a PC graphics card with the addition of the stupid EDRAM.

The PS3 is a modern graphics system where there is no 'graphics card' RSX is a fillrate monster that can handle 1080p with ease(GT,RidgeRacer,Lair,...) while Cell is a transform/vertex monster.

To compare Xenos with just the RSX half of the PS3's Cell/RSX rendering system makes no sense.

[Dareaver1]

where do you get your information from. you know nothing of what you are talking about. the edram is godsend not a problem, the fact that the ps3 has split 512mb memory is a bigger problem, and the 360 has already been prove to have a massive bandwidth advantage. Please if you may supply some proof of what you are sayin, i'll supply mines, it's only fair since you keep posting this nonsense up and down this forum.

I said it before, but sony does not need any fake help from fanboys. all you make it seem like is that the ps3 isn't living up to all it's expectations, so you have to make up stuff on the competition to make it look better.

If sony has the goods, then in time we will see, but stop making up nonsense about things you know nothing about. Also everyone already knows that the RSX has been outdated from the PS3's release, but they haven't (fully) utilized the tech that's in the 360's GPU yet.

all this makin up stuff makes sony seem worse off than they are, and it's because of stupid fanboys. for example.... Sonyprotection site? what the hell is that, seriously unless you have stock in sony i see no need for stupid things like that.

Skate is an incredible game, why can't we just enjoy it, unless you have both systems this stuff shouldn't matter to most of these diehard fanboys. Grow up fanboys.....

@DJ
didn't i already explain about the differences in bandwidth to you. I had more than one website that both said the same thing in reference to bandwidth. Plus wasn't my comment directed towards STELLA. but anyway, all computer literate people i have spoken to have said that the daughter die is an ingenious inclusion to the 360 gpu, and that the unified architecture is superior. There are plenty of website to back me up on that. The RSX has been proven to be already outdated when the ps3 was released. nVidia already has more powerful gpu's out. and they are planning on releasing a unified architecture gpu themselves.

Bandwidth
The PS3 has 22.4 GB/s of GDDR3 bandwidth and 25.6 GB/s of RDRAM bandwidth for a total system bandwidth of 48 GB/s.

The Xbox 360 has 22.4 GB/s of GDDR3 bandwidth and a 256 GB/s of EDRAM bandwidth for a total of 278.4 GB/s total system bandwidth.

the 360s GPU has more processing power than the ps3's, the 360's gpu can do 80 GPU shader operations per second while the ps3 can do 74.8 GPU shader operation per second.

[DJ]

Can you explain which aspects of the RSX make it inferior in comparison to Xenos? It's got twice the memory bandwidth, twice the lighting/polygon transform capabilities, and 4x the texture cache in regards to Xenos. True, Xenos uses shaders that switch between pixel and vertex functions, but they're not as powerful as RSX's dedicated pixel and vertex shaders. Even ATI admitted that nVidia has them beat in terms of GPU power.

[Ju]

@Dareaver1

You are a moron. Really. Come up with something like "I work in the gaming industry and can say first hand, this is that, bla bla". But you edit your comment and add some more "but I heard this guys saying, that...". Bullocks.

I have some gaming background (as a SW engineer for about 15+ years now, more 20, actually - time flies), and whatever Stella is saying makes too much sense from an engineering standpoint. Compared to the bullshit you are talking. Come up with facts and prove that we're wrong.

What I find hilarious, though, is, how you guys simply add bandwidth. The PS3 has a bandwidth advantage, true (no shared access, though full ~24GB/sec in case both use exclusive access to their mem areas - not if the RSX does DMA from/to RDRam, though), but this does not simply result in 48GB/s, it is still 24 or whatever.

Same for the EDRam. Just because that little cache mem is extremely fast, doesn't add anything to the overall bandwidth (I'd be curious who can even access that mem. I am pretty sure, that would be a bit tricky anyhow - is it linear addressable ? From the cpu ? gpu ? I doubt the cpu can even access that mem). And as others said before, this is a frame buffer cache memory to implement AA, while it is to small to store a complete frame in 720p, you need a tile (or line buffer) to render first and then do another composing step afterwards.

The PS3 otho could use its full RDRam mem to store a buffer an do post processing with the full SPU bandwidth - tiling makes sense, because you could do up to 6 portions at the same time! (well, sure, would imply, the the RSX renders into RDRAM and then transfers the buffer to the DMAC (or video logic), so you get a little bit of "delay" (neglectable: the bandwidth needed at 1080p@60 Hz would be about 480MB/sec, but you have 24GB/sec). (BTW: 5 spus are the equivalent to 24 shaders in the GeForce 78xx series).

That tile in the EDram work significant different than with the SPU. The earlier is a pre-render setup, while the second is a post render step.

[Dareaver1]

what are u talkin about? when have i ever said that i was part of the industry. and like you are implying just because you have some background, does that mean you are proficient with these two new pieces of hardware (let me answer that, NO!). If so, then you need to start developing games for these two systems. Whose the moron, now.

Thanks to the efficiency of the 360 GPU’s unified shader architecture and this 10MB of EDRAM the GPU is able to achieve 4XFSAA at no performance cost. ATI and Microsoft’s goal was to eliminate memory bandwidth as a bottleneck and they seem to have succeeded. If there are any pc gamers out there they notice that when they turn on things such as AA or HDR the performance goes down that’s because those features eat bandwidth hence the efficiency of the GPU’s operation decreases as they are turned on. With the 360 HDR+4XAA simultaneously are like nothing to the GPU with proper use of the EDRAM. The EDRAM contains a 3D logic unit which has 192 Floating Point Unit processors inside. The logic unit will be able to exchange data with the 10MB of RAM at 2 Terabits a second. Things such as antialiasing, computing z depths or occlusion culling can happen on the EDRAM without impacting the GPU’s workload.

In order for this to be possible developers would need to setup their rendering engine to take advantage of both the EDRAM and the available onboard 3D logic. If anyone is confused why the 32GB/s is being multiplied by 8 its because once data travels over the 32GB/s bus it is able to be processed 8 times by the EDRAM logic to the EDRAM memory at a rate of 256GB/s so for every 32GB/s you send over 256GB/s gets processed. This results in RSX being at a bandwidth disadvantage in comparison to Xenos. Needless to say the 360 not only has an overabundance of video memory bandwidth, but it also has amazing memory saving features. For example to get 720P with 4XFSAA on traditional architecture would require 28MB worth of memory. On the 360 only 16MB is required. There are also features in the 360's Direct3D API where developers are able to fit 2 128x128 textures into the same space required for one, for example. So even with all the memory and all the memory bandwidth, they are still very mindful of how it’s used.

The 360 GPU has 48 unified pipelines capable of accepting either pixel or vertex shader operations whereas with the older dedicated pixel and vertex pipeline architecture that RSX uses when you are in a vertex heavy situation most of the 24 pixel pipes go idle instead of helping out with vertex work.

Or on the flip side in a pixel heavy situation those 8 vertex shader pipelines are just idle and don’t help out the pixel pipes (because they aren’t able to), but with the 360’s unified architecture in a vertex heavy situation for example none of the pipes go idle. All 48 unified pipelines are capable of helping with either pixel or vertex shader operations when needed so as a result efficiency is greatly improved and so is overall performance. When pipelines are forced to go idle because they lack the capability to help another set of pipelines accomplish their task it’s detrimental to performance. This inefficient manner is how all current GPUs operate including the PS3's RSX. The pipelines go idle because the pixel pipes aren't able to help the vertex pipes accomplish a task or vice versa. Whats even more impressive about this GPU is it by itself determines the balance of how many pipelines to dedicate to vertex or pixel shader operations at any given time a programmer is NOT needed to handle any of this the GPU takes care of all this itself in the quickest most efficient way possible. 1080p is not a smart resolution to target in any form this generation, but if 360 developers wanted to get serious about 1080p, thanks to Xenos, could actually outperform the ps3 in 1080p. (The less efficient GPU always shows its weaknesses against the competition in higher resolutions so the best way for the rsx to be competitive is to stick to 720P) In vertex shader limited situations the 360’s gpu will literally be 6 times faster than RSX. With a unified shader architecture things are much more efficient than previous architectures allowed (which is extremely important). The 360’s GPU for example is 95-99% efficient with 4XAA enabled. With traditional architecture there are design related roadblocks that prevent such efficiency. To avoid such roadblocks, which held back previous hardware, the 360 GPU design team created a complex system of hardware threading inside the chip itself. In this case, each thread is a program associated with the shader arrays. The Xbox 360 GPU can manage and maintain state information on 64 separate threads in hardware. There's a thread buffer inside the chip, and the GPU can switch between threads instantaneously in order to keep the shader arrays busy at all times

[demolitionX]

where did u cut and paste this nonsense? um sure u have no idea what are u talking about. give me scintific charts are analysis not mambo jumbo google cut and paste. scietific comparisons shows PS is 3x o 10x outperforms ur dumpBOX. have no time to bring it again as it was posted here like zillion times. c ya!!

[Dareaver1]

i don't need to make things up, sorry i'm not a fanboy like you. you probably just listen to what people tell you, and believe all the hype. I'm sorry but i don't take what people tell me at face value, i'll actually look things up. Everything i've (cut and pasted) like you've said has been from microsoft's released hardware specs, and sony's released hardware specs. Also the comparison was done by a professional, but like i said when you can use spell check, i'll post the link, but it doesn't seem like you'll understand the information that will be presented.

[Ri0tSquad]

You guys are like little kids arguing over who has a bigger piece of candy really sad.

[Spike47]

lets wait for the reviews of gamespy and gamespot, I don't trust IGn anymore, their reviews are really strange.

it's dissapointing to see the media biased against the ps3, it's sad we can't even trust the media anymore.

[Xi]

the graffiti one is confusing because it's at a different angle, and so it looks clearer but it's the same. Anyways, the AA on the ps3 one is better but the textures on the 360 look slightly better

[eLiNeS]

The PofS3 screenshots have a game trailer logo but the Xbox 360 does not. This is 100% fake!!!

I have played this demo in 1080i and did not see any jaggies

[Meus Renaissance]

They are screenshots of a video comparison.

[Meus Renaissance]

IGN explained that the PS3 version was slightly inferior due to the Anti-Aliasing issues yet the video comparison from Gametrailers shows the 360 being the weaker in that regard.

This was the purpose of the thread on the PS3 Forums. PlayStation owners have a short piece of string when it comes to trust the gaming media due to the low scores of their games lately, this comparison actually supports their claim of unfair reviewing from IGN although this is not irrefutable proof, I agree. However, this comes from the same source (Gametrailers) as people here have used in the past when arguing when a game looked better on the Xbox 360 so why the hypocrisy when it's the other way round?

[eLiNeS]

http://skate.share.ea.com/p...

[power of Green]

Peter Moore Has not been an EA employee long enough to effect anything its the most moronic sh*t Sony fans spew. Can EA really crank out games in a mof a couple of months?.

Anyways this is agenda driven and has been tampered with in some way IGN would have pointed it out.

FAKE FAKE FAKE...

#31, Why do you use terms like "XBOT"?...

[Rageanitus]

You never know, the trade off the the ms and ea exucutives might have been talked about for a good year.

I doubt it is a coincidence that peter moore left ms to ea, and an exec from Ea left to ms to take his place at the same exact time.

[jay3]

Considering that the site is called PS3forums, and that the shots aren't at the same part (If that means anything) I'm going to go with IGN instead of what COULD be, COULD be a fanboy.

[Bloodshedder]

hahaha the xbots are jealous!! cry babys

[Salvadore]

The difference is significantly small and it takes a desperate fanboy to point them out.

[AcidRhain]

You call 360 owners jealous of sh!tty framerate issues on the PS3 Skate? ummm, you are an insecure loser.

[Nameless]

& only the Sony Droids continue to do these comparisons

[ATLRoAcH]

I personally think the PS3 version looks better it seems more detailed.The shoes and the grounds where I tell a difference.

[AcidRhain]

well you can't see the extra 2 pixels on the ground if you are trying to see through the studdering framerate. lol enjoy your 'better' version of the game.

[Meus Renaissance]

This is as hopeless as arguing with that kid claiming the e.g. KillZone 2 footage was too good and was actually CGI. Then finding out it was gameplay, said it looked crap and Halo 3 was better etc.

Honestly, times like this you can only laugh and move on to another story

[PimpHandHappy]

and btw they both look good! you ppl need to stop looking at pictures and screen shots of games. Its just plain stupid and a huge waste of your life.

IGN gave the PS3 8.8 and the 360 a 9

now go flame on .2 difference in a review! And anyone that says the PS3 is .2 worse is just being a flamer! They both look good and anyone that gives a game .2 under on the other system is a total anal rententive fanboy!

Hey i guess IGN doesnt want a AAA review on anything PS3?!?!?!

[GoLeafsGo]

"..anyone that gives a game .2 under on the other system is a total anal rententive fanboy!"

That's precisely what's being claimed: IGN is biased.

[falconm80]

That's really lame.. But you know what? That's how low most 360 fans are. I know there are some 360 fans who will admit that the 360 is not a better machine than the PS3 but they still love 360 because they just love it, and I respect them for that. but for the majority of 360 fanboys, that's not the case, it's more like this:

When a video game proves that the 360 is inferior to the PS3, xbox360 fanboys call it faked or whatever..... not only that but they accuse PS3 fans of being full of sh!t, trust me 360 guys you're full of sh!t and you can't stop trolling all over PS3 forums and websites just to keep spreading the same lies

Trust me this is only the begining, wait for 2008 releases to see that the gap between 360 games and PS3 games will even get bigger

Now remember that so far All the games that are on both 360 and PS3 were developed on the 360 and then ported to the PS3, which give the 360 versions big advantage, but the PS3 power is making for most of those losses.

I think Burnout Paradise will be the first game that is developed for the PS3 and will be available for the 360, that the game will show how inferior the 360 is to the PS3 and then as usual we will have 360 fanboys crying all over the internet and b!tch!ng about the game being developed on the PS3 and how the 360 was not treated fairly

GO play some Madden or Nascar you greenecks

[gnothe1]

you said WHEN a game proves that the 360 is inferior to the PS3.WHEN is the keyword. give the PS3 2 more months an it will have been out 1 YEAR!! an still Ps3 games still cant run at the same level of 360 games!! no we know that developers are starting to make the PS3 the lead console!! you wanna know why!! developing for the lowest denominator!! with all of the Pre Ps3 hype an super system power that sony promised, developers thought that the 360 was going to be the weaker system, but how did that turn out!! Ps3 games being made to run at 360 systems specs ran like crap but now 360 ports that run at PS3 systems specs still run fine or maybe even better, now how do you get PS3 superiority out of that!!

[Meus Renaissance]

http://www.gamevideos.com/v...

[DeZimatoR]

Just STFU once and for all.

No one cares anymore. ;)

[gnothe1]

well I will say this, I downloaded the nba live an stranglehold demos for both systems an I can honestly say that the 360 versions of both of those games are better.

NBA live. the graphics looks just about 100% the same,the court reflections, cloth movement everything, its just, that game aint as fluid on the PS3 as it is on the 360(framerate aint bad just not as smooth)

stranglehold. same thing the graphics look just about the same. but....the framerate on this game is terrible. there was one point in the DEMO where the game just stopped completely for almost 2 seconds.the only gripe I have with the PS3 version is the framerate which is terrible!! oh an the control on the PS3 controller was a little to loose for me!!(my personal opinion)

now in defence of the PS3, these are just DEMOS, an dont reflect the actual performance on the retail game, but at the same time the 360 version dont have these problems!!

[xplosneer]

I played the demo 3 times on PS3 and didn't see framerate drops, but whatever.

[Ju]

I don't know anything about the 360 version, but I agree, both PS3 demos are a complete let down. NBA Live is a joke, IMO. 720p and fps issues. EA should get a patent for that - but then, nobody else would use it :)
For Stranglehold? I can't see any frame rate issues, but the cut scenes and character models are so zombie. WTF. Destructive environment is great (the best I've seen so far), but comes with the trade off of reduced polygon count in the models. And gameplay, well, it was kind a fun, but if "repetitive" needs a definition, here it is.

[Idmpc]

...so I cant really compare the demos on both systems, but I can at least give my opinion regarding the PS3 version of both of them

NBA Live: Characters look really nice, there doesn't seem to be much (if any) Anti Aliasing going around, framerate is pretty smooth (60fps) when playing, but it does get a little under 60fps when it shows players on the bench, or talking with their coach. But since you are not playing when players are on the bench, it doesn't affect gameplay at all.

Stranglehold: Looks great, runs great. However there was a time when I was playing and the whole game froze for a few seconds (3 - 4 seconds actually), but that doesn't mean the framerate sux. It actually runs pretty well, I didn't notice any slowdowns whatsoever... Maybe if I keep playing I'll eventually run it something, but hey... you can only play a demo so much XD (if it's not heavenly sword, that one I've played over and over and ... and over and over again lol). And, well, I can't really comment on the characters having a reduced polygon count, but I can at least say that they look nice.

Well those are my opinions, and I want to point out that I'm not comparing the systems, I'm just saying what I saw while playing them on my PS3.

[gEnKiE]

Ummm...are the photos mixed up because the ign review said the ps3 version had some aliasing issues......it seems to me to be the other way around..

[BloodySinner]

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[Wozzer]

Imo the PS3 had better textures and framerate - I'm not flaming just stating what I saw in the trailer on GameVideos

[FirstknighT]

Oh yeah...which one to believe? IGN or some sony fanboy? Hmmmmmmmm

[Cartesian3D]

I BELIEVE in MY EYEs ..

[demolitionX]

xbox version looks like out of focus picture. and whoever said that sixaxis is useless, his comment is the one that is useless.

[toughNAME]

ign or ps3 forums??

uuuhhh i think i know who i trust more

[DJ]

http://www.n4g.com/industry...

[toughNAME]

i dont care for your conspiracy theories DJ

[SofaKingReetodded]

IGN is full of xbot fanboys while we over at PS3forums actually make news with our posts.

[xg-ei8ht]

I'm glad i've come across somebody who knows what they are talking about.

STELLA - You are 100% correct.

"The 360 is really a 480p system being forced to handle a resolution it wasn't designed for, 720p. A 4xAA 480p framebuffer fits exactly into the 10meg EDRAM."

At least somebody knows alittle math.

So before anyone moans about what stella has said, try reading up about the 360.

Why do u think the 360 has a decent upscaler.

[beardtm]

any dram is better than no dram

[hotshot1237]

360 fans only go by rumors all the time. you know i finally met a 360 fanboy in person a couple days ago and him and his friend tried to say that the ps3 had more of a failure rate then 360 and said it just doesnt show yet because there is only around 5 mill sold. what an idiot you guys are.

DIRT LOOKED AND RAN BETTER ON PS3 SAID IGN BUT GAVE IT THE EXACT SAME SCORE.....................HMMM MMMMMMMMMMM.....I WONDER. CUZ IF THAT WAS 360, THEY WOULD HAVE PUT IT UP A WHOLE NUMBER GRADE

[monkey nuts]

I just fired the demo up on my 360 for a ganders and I have to say there are no where near the levels of jaggies in the game as those screenshots suggest.Of what little jaggies there are they are barely noticeable, unless you play games with your face pushed against the screen you have no worries. I was running it with the vga cable @ 1360 x 768 on my 26" hdtv. Its one sweet looking game no doubt, more importantly though it plays sweet what with the flik it controls.

[Ju]

Welcome to the club! No you know how a PS3 user feels.

[PimpHandHappy]

360ppl saying the PS3 has a bigger fail rate then the 360. That classic

Nothing that is sold at a best buy and is considered a consumer electronic has a bigger fail rate then the 360

NOTHING

sorry but its true

[Douchebaggery]

STFU and stop being so focking melodramatic you spend more time arguing about who's penis is the fattest than playing your damn video games

games are supposed to be fun you focking morons

c'mon everybody sing with me

♫ Ebony and Ivory
Live together in perfect harmony
Side by side on my piano keyboard
Oh Lord, why don't we ? ♫

[Meus Renaissance]

Are you people a bunch of crazed lunatics or what? The PS3 topic is based on a gamevideos comparison. That's where the images came from. I already provided the link yet people wish to ignore that and play the "Sony fanboy" tune.

As you wish.

[falconm80]

you're making a joke of yourself, why don't you download the large video and see it yourself,, it's like 200MB

oh maybe you're on a 56kp modem which goes well with your wii

[Rageanitus]

~ 1 year old system, and the visual quality of multiplatform games are getting BETTER month by month for the ps3.

Dirt, Oblivion, Skate, GRAW2.

Sorry xfanboys the video cards in the xbox 360 (ati 1900 series) is pretty much equivent to ps3's (nvidia 7 thousand series) . Developers just have to learn how to program in cell. Last i read the cell can be programmed to handle some gpu instructions.

Slow process but by 2009 the graphics will look better on the ps3 vs 360.

[Ju]

"gpu instructions". Let me say, no, but it can assist (and be used as a shader as well - e.g. post rendering). It can also used to do vertex transformations and reductions, which means the actual vertices the gpu gets are already optimized and the gpu needs only render whats really required. Doing transformation on the cell, means no need to do them on the RSX what so ever.
But you need to balance that out. You don't want to fill up SPU resources with stuff the GPU could handle equally well. There is also AI and physics which needs to processed and might want a piece of the spu cake.

[paracardium]

Ps3 and another superior game however I'm not a fan of these types of games it's nice to see a first gen ps3 games look better then the already maxed out 3fixme in it's second or 3rd year.

[Gamingisfornerds]

I've no problem with admitting if the PS3 version actually looks better, but looking at that last comparisson pic something is not right there.

In the demo I've been playing on my 360, the mountains are exactly like the PS3 version and nothing like the 360 version.
The mountains/hills are blurred out just like in that PS3 pic on my 360 when playing the demo, so I'm not sure what to think of this comparisson?!

I will say that the aliasing in the 360 demo is pretty horrible, I don't know about the PS3 version in that regard, but the 360 version could definitely use some more AA.

[monkey nuts]

Your not far of the mark with the crazed lunatics bit, this is wikipeadias discription of a fanboy : "Fanboy is a term used to describe an individual (usually male, though the feminine version fangirl may be used for females) who is utterly devoted to a single fannish subject, or to a single point of view within that subject, often to the point where it is considered an obsession. Fanboys remain loyal to their particular obsession, disregarding any factors (often including logic) that differ from their point of view"
It also does my nut sifting through all the bs fanboy comments just to read decent unbiased submissions . n4g needs to cull the fanboys, theres way to many on this site for intelligent discussions on legitimate news.

[gtvpalm]

If you want to post your opinion here, you have to download first the HD video from Gamevideos.com and watch it closely.

The images posted are NOT fake. They are actual captures from that video. No photoshop, no retouch, no zoom, no cable issues.

Both feeds look amazing and to really notice most of the differences, you have to go frame by frame. I doubt half of them will be noticeable during play.

I've tried to analyse, to the best of my knowledge, the strengths and weaknesses of each console:

Aliasing: Both have some aliasing. PS3's is more noticeable in the horizontal plane (horizon). PS3 has a little more aliasing than 360 with respect to the environment (curbs, walls, edges, etc). But it tends to be only on lines which are close to the horizon. Diagonals and verticals are fine on PS3.
While the environment may be a little more aliased on PS3, the character model in 360 really looks weak compared to PS3. 360 has aliasing in the shoes, the trucks, the trousers, the t-shirt and the arms. You can also notice a lot more aliasing in the 360's corkscrew structure. The aliasing on those horizontal beams above the player, when entering the skate park is really bad on the 360.

Anisotropic Filtering: PS3 has better AF than 360. The concrete's distant textures are better. Check those close to that empty pool and behind it. The colourful graffiti to the right is also better on PS3.

Colour: PS3 has marginally better contrast range. Dark colours in 360 tend to bleed quickly to black. You can tell that looking at the shadows in the arm and the trees behind the corkscrew. But PS3 looks a little washed out, like everything bled to white... I don't know if HDR is being used in either system, but that could explain the differences.
It's a good thing they've toned down the Bloom effects on 360, otherwise everything would have looked like disneyland.

Textures: PS3 has better textures. You can tell from the concrete textures, the sneakers and all of the graffiti. They are crisper. The signs far away are clearer on PS3 than in 360.
The far structures (that hoist thing, the hills, look better (for my tastes) on PS3 because the distance is much better simulated.
Also check the lamp post when the player is grinding the red rail. I think that frame really sums up a lot of what I've been saying this far.

Shadows: PS3's shadows are much better. On 360, sometimes they are too soft and sometimes they are too hard. PS3 has had always an edge over 360 with respect to lighting and shadows. The trousers on the skater are much better illuminated on PS3 than in 360.

Framerate: I honestly can't evaluate framerate from this video. That is something that has to be felt while playing.

Well, I could go on but I think the most important issues have been covered. There are a million more details. Both games look good and seem to be real fun, moreover, solid titles. I am not a fan of skating games, so I think I'll pass on this one.

Looking at this video, I do not agree with IGN's review. Aliasing is not that different from one another and PS3's strengths have been overlooked, sadly, again. I honestly don't think that graphics are a whole point apart (8 vs 7), that's all.

[PS360PCROCKS]

what a load of BS...this kid can't prove which shots are which first of all, but secondly I have played the game and none of this exists whatsoever. Believe what you want but I have seen the game first hand and it looks nothing like this...

edit:: I will believe what I want, but these are screens not a video first off. Secondly, I never said the PS3 version didn't look better, I said the 360 version doesn't look like that on my TV.

[Ri0tSquad]

unless gamevideos.com messed with the videos then the ps3 version actually does look better.

[TheMART]

Sony fandroids so in denial

THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY THINK IGN IS WRONG???

Just close your eyes. Put the head in the ground. Try to cry yourself to sleep.

[Observer]

wasn't intended to be a reply to your post.

Cheers.

[kevin1122]

Is that the best you can do, you are running dry mr fanboy.

[2paclives]

hey, little boy shut the F up...you know nothing, I grow tired of your fanboy rants every day. Grow up please..do you have a girlfriend or a boyfriend, I can't tell.

[razer]

That whenever a comparison video comes out from a legitamate source and the PS3 is not the top choice there is a follow-up screenshot comparison done by fanboys to attempt to refute what was stated. I don't see this from 360 fanboys when it is the other way around, which is rare since only 1 game, Oblivion has been known to look better on the PS3.

It makes it difficult for someone who owns both systems to determine which version to get.. But for myself I always skip the fanboy BS and go with what the legit source says. They do have contact with the developers and the devs will call them on it if their assessment isn't correct, plus they have credibility they need to protect.

Basically, talk till your blue in the face but IGN get's the call for me.

@55 that was a good breakdown, unfortunately you seem to call everything in PS3's favor and if it was that obvious I don't see why we would be having this discussion.

[xg-ei8ht]

I know what u mean, but he did state (frame by frame)

[Observer]

The pictures are taken from HD-video comparison.

Dismissing them just because they were posted on a pro-Sony forum (among many others) doesn't mean that they're made by the site users, sony fanboys, or anything.

The original HD video is available on the net. And the pictures could have been posted on sony's forum, microsoft's, or the holy moongoat's official website.

As for the pics themselves, the difference is really minimal, and hardly worth making an big issue out of.

What puzzles me though, is why did IGN give an inferior score to the PS3 version. Apparently it's graphically superior.

Maybe it's becoming impulsive for gaming websites to give 360 versions higher scores than PS3's, since it's an unspoken rule that every multiplatform game has to be better on Xbox360 (sarcasm).

[felidae]

wow. ps3 version looks much smoother.

yeah.

[Imalwaysright]

if those pictures turn out to be legit IGN just lost my respect...

[Idmpc]

... I don't think we're going to see a headline on N4G saying "The skate pics are LEGIT!" so you can think whatever you want about IGN right now.

[sheng long]

just like POG comparing VF5 for 360 vs ps3 and he posted some busted up VF5 pics which supposedly represent the ps3 version. HAHAHA.
from this point on, i'll take IGNs reviews with a grain of salt, based on this review, DIRT's and PREY's (pc vs 360) they just don't like to give 360 lower scores.
I just want want honest reviews damnit, i'm sick and tired of biased site that favor one platform over the other. That goes for ps3 or 360.

[gnothe1]

my question is WHY DOES THE ps3 HAVE TO LOOK BETTER THAN THE 360 TO YOU GUYS!! it seem like game after game you guys are looking for that one that shows the PS3 is more powerful than the 360, are you guys looking for closure or what? even if this game does show to look better on the Ps3 the difference is not enough to start claiming victory!! just accept the fact that the 360 an PS3 are very even an both systems have an advantage over the other doing certain things. now I will admit that the Ps3 is much better at streaming video from my PC using nero than my 360 is using MC. but at the same time the cell was made for just that, streaming video(blu ray player) but at playing videogames RIGHT NOW the 360 wins hands down, an this is MY opinion on the games part so I dont need no smart a55 fanboy comment about it!!

[Stella]

You couldn't possibly be more pathetic post that garbage you just wrote with a Gears of War marketing bullshot as your damn avatar.

So sad.

[sheng long]

gnothe1, the problem is on the other thread fanboys were arguing over the scores 8.8 for ps3 vs 9.0 for 360, these images contradict the reason this game got a lower score for ps3.

beardtm: we all believe what we want, the games will be out soon enough that we will be able to compare for ourselves.

[beardtm]

I think i'll believe IGN who have played both versions before what could be a ps3 fanboy putting the text "360" onto the ps3 pics and "ps3" onto the 360 pics.

Fact is that 10mb embedded dram gives 360 between 2 and 4x AA for nothing, so i dont see the ps3 ever having better AA than 360.

PS. The guy who made this comparison is sad, doesn't he have anything better to be doing with his life?

[macsto]

Lets face it sony fanb!tches. IGN said it best when they said Skate on the PS3 is the ugly cross-eyed sister, much like you sony fans.

[zigzag]

dude the ps3 version looks better take that 360 fanboys

[Wozzer]

The PS3 version looks better on the Gamevideos clip, but the differences are not huge so who cares?

[Boink]

who to trust, someone from a well known site that reviews thousands of games, or some guy from a PS3FORUM?

DUH....

[Ahhhh]

@Xbox my Ass - Why do you hafta call em "XBums?" Is it because the 360 is cheaper? Or, because, Where as you have to have your mommy and daddy buy you a PS3. And, they, actually have to pay for thiers? Shut the fck up.

@Everyone else - Picture comparisons are stupid. You never know which is which or under what circumstance they are being played under. Yes, the PS3 version looks better, but the "jaggies" on the 360 wouldn't bother me very much/if at all. Just buy the game for which ever console you own or buy it for which one you would rather play on...

[Relientk77]

well based on the screenshots and comments they made... its safe to say the PS3 version looks better

[Goldsack]

@hotshots1237
you re right!!!!

DIRT LOOKED AND RAN BETTER ON PS3 SAID IGN BUT GAVE IT THE EXACT SAME SCORE.. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

[2paclives]

the ps3 version is better..you know why? I don't have to worry about playing a game and get a freakin red light when playing.

[THUNDERMARE]

I hope IGN has some explanation on their part.
Although the differences are barely noticeable but given PS3 .2 lower isnt justifiable from the comparison.

[2paclives]

ps3 has framerate issues..thx again to slack-ass ea devs...

[THUNDERMARE]

IGN gave .2 lower on PS3 not only because of frame rate but also juggling and blurry background, which is not the case looking from the picture.

[harpua]

PS3 wins again, not surprised...

[gamehendge]

PS3 looks better.....again!

[xaphanze]

I didnt notice any framerate issues when viewing this video.

[richie]

stella what a prick u r mate

[vaan]

I get 256 fps, full screen 1024 x 768 on Solitaire.

[RadientFlux]

ha I get 512 fps at 1680x1050 on Mind Sweeper ;)

[macalatus]

Although screenshot comparisons are normal part of gaming world, but I have always wondered why people are so interested in such since the end IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. I'm speaking about all the fanboys but I'll have to put a little criticism on the MS fanboys (I'm a Sony fan, yes, so please spare that "you're biased" argument in your reply). My question to all the MS fanboys (especially YOU Firstknight and theMart), what do you exactly get if the 360 is a tad graphically superior than the PS3, assuming that the pictures above are actually "fake"? It doesn't help the fact the you guys would troll to PS3 articles even without any references to the 360 and still put your opinions that the "360 is better". Sure, Sony fanboys like nasim do such things, but they DON'T speak on behalf of a lot of Sony fans. I mean, really, does the fact that saying 360 is a superior version gets you an extra income or scoring a chick? Or is it that your social life is so pathetic and lame that the only way for you to compensate is to troll in this site.

And before you start making comparisons to atrocious people of my side, at least they're freakin' stupid on the get go, saying crap like "360 is dead. HAHAHAHAH!" But the difference is those kinds of trolls are so stupid that it doesn't take a second for the brain to know that they are. You guys, on the other, are a different bunch of trolls that though they avoid the stupid kinds of comments like nasim you guys go around proudly and arrogantly proclaiming that "360 graphics are better".

Bottom line is just play games and get a life. I mean, instead of freakin' measuring each individual pixels of each freakin' versions, you guys need to FIX UP your seemingly sad lives.

[Pika-pie]

Lol, you children really do make me laugh

[heavyarms]

The games looks awesome on both systems. Its about a 9 on both consoles and it plays great. i hate skating games so this one is not even a rental LOL

[notpill]

The images are from an hd video that shows the games run SIDE BY SIDE, and theres no zooming or cut 'npaste. Start the video, pause it and take screenshots. Plz guys look at the original HD video before start talkin about fakes!
Ive seen this one posted few days ago by Xbox King (yeah Xboxking.com) and every comment in the post was like "yes, PS3 look better so far" "wow, no way, PS3 is mor clean..."

[RINGOFDEATH]

Xbox 360 life span will be short,like the 1st Xbox that lasted only 5 years the 360 maybe last 2 to 3 years tops,because of the RED RING OF DEATH. more more more RROD is coming to a 360 near you .

[RadientFlux]

wow I am in such awe, thank you for copy and pasted words of wisdom

[SofaKingReetodded]

@ all the xbots that are ass hurt by this, what goes around come around kids. we've been telling you all along which system will win out and it's starting to show.

the good news is that when the 360 goes down you can all create new accounts and comeback as PS3 owners....bwahahahahahahahhaha hahaha

[demolitionX]

Heavenly sword proved to all doubters that it's the real next gen console. I wonder can x360 generate such complex and sofisticated graphics and animation with as many characters on screen like in HS?? the answer is NO, maybe xbox 720 or even 1440!!! LOL.............

[TheXgamerLive]

6.8 tops to me, anyways, the pics your looking at aren't accurate pics of either version. Just read actual gaming mags/sites reviews and not a lieing or disgruntled sony fans touched up changed and switched out review, M'Kay?

[UltramanJ]

I can't belive there is a thread comparing the two versions and the only difference between the two is small sections of aliasing that has to be pointed out with a huge circle. Really, if you are that uneasy about your system purchase that you have to do comparison threads like this to make you feel better about you game system then that's pretty frickin' sad. Even sadder are the losers trying to use this as proof positive that their system is better. Back in the 16-bit days the SNES versions of games always had more colors and far better sound than the Genesis versions yet, there was never any of this stupidity going on. Consider that a comparison of how yesterdays generations of gamers were more mature than the pathetic bunch fighting over postage stamp sized differences in games today.

[UltramanJ]

I can't belive there is a thread comparing the two versions and the only difference between the two is small sections of aliasing that has to be pointed out with a huge circle. Really, if you are that uneasy about your system purchase that you have to do comparison threads like this to make you feel better about you game system then that's pretty frickin' sad. Even sadder are the losers trying to use this as proof positive that their system is better. Back in the 16-bit days the SNES versions of games always had more colors and far better sound than the Genesis versions yet, there was never any of this stupidity going on. Consider that a comparison of how yesterdays generations of gamers were more mature than the pathetic bunch fighting over postage stamp sized differences in games today.

[SolidSnake93]

Ea is attempting to weaken PS3's sales. I'm almost sure that they are biasing the game creation by making the PS3 versions worse than the 360 versions. Ea is being paid by microsoft. Look at all the games on PS3 with a high framrate and then compare them to the ones that Ea designed

[Foliage]

No arguing with that. The choice is an obvious one.

[SaMiR111]

Stella = IGNORANTE

IGN gave the PS3 8.8 and the 360 a 9

The framerate, which is perfect on 360, is choppy on PS3. It isn't enough to affect the gameplay, but it's certainly noticeable."

AJAJAJA PS 3 wins again?? ¡THIS TIME!

splinter cell = 360 wins
COD 3= 360 WINS
tony hawk= 360 wins
NFL=360 WINS WITH 60 FPS! AND PS 3 30 FPS

in multi 360 always win, and know have the better graphics with mass effect,bioshock, gow. ignorant!

[360Crusader]

Dont you guys ever get tired of these stupid comparisons.
So what if one console over the other has a little better graphics.
A console war will never be decided by graphics so get off the worthless subject. They both look good anuff for me. Just go and play some games on NES for awhile, and both camps will be satisfied with these kind of graphics.

But it truly is something what they have been able to do with games these past 15 years.

[gtvpalm]

Is it my impression or... IGN has changed the text of the PS3 review?
Yesterday I was comparing both reviews. They were almost identical, except in the graphics score text and an extra paragraph at the end of the review text, explaining the PS3's differences. That paragraph is G-O-N-E now!!!! Anybody has a copy?
It is really strange. IGN is really disappointing more by the minute. I am almost 100% sure there was an extra paragraph in the PS3's review.

Probably they realised they messed up and tried to correct it without anyone noticing. What is dumb is the fact that the comment about the 7.0 graphics is still on, but the reader will never find why.

[Drunken Moogle]

I used to hate xbox because A.Every console just starting gets flamed even the psone did and B.I never thought it would make it but,hey sometimes i can be wrong and Microsoft has deep pockets so does Sony.Everyone from Xbox360 too PS3 fanboys this is a console war do yourself a favor buy both systems pick up cheap games when they drop in price and same as the consoles they both rock man.I love Sony but I greatly enjoy Halo and many other Microsoft games.You never know until u try them and screw it i'm done being all biased I want to try them all ;)

[grifon]

My SKATE DEMO PICTURE.
x360 is not Blurry.

[LJWooly]

I have a 360 AND a PS3. I downloaded the SKATE demo ages ago from the Live Marketplace, and out of curiosity, downloaded the ps3 demo too, to compare them.
I can honestly say that there is virtually NO difference between the two, and both were running on the same TV, PS3 on HDMI and 360 on Composite lead, both at 1080p (or whatever skate's highest resolution is). If i were to choose between the two, I would say the PS3 version's better because the Sixaxis controller is WAY better than the 360 pad, for everything except RTS games. Also, there were some anti-aliasing problems on the 360, but I only noticed that because I was TRYING to see it.
Anyone who just PLAYS the friggin game, without NITPICKING at it, WILL NOT NOTICE ANY FLAWS.
If you REALLY think that one version is better, then keep it to yourself, no one wants to hear the same thing by different people OVER AND OVER AGAIN.