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EA prioritizing 360 over PS3: Completing Xbox 360 Versions First

A representative with the publisher EA told Matt Richtel that as a release date nears, the company sometimes readjusts the manpower on the projects to complete the Xbox 360 version first.

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power of Green 6116d ago

Stop blaming EA i can post other devs that do the same things and get the same results from hardware.

MK_Red6116d ago

What do you mean? Aside from EA games all others are near identical. Just look at Call Of Duty 4, Haze, UT3, Darkness or Oblivion. Also, how come a team like Criterion is easily developing Burnout Paradise with PS3 as lead platform without problem?

Xbox 360 Will6116d ago

Yawn ignore the xbox 360 fanboy above. He's starved for attention because his 360 is in texas getting repaired.

FirstknighT6116d ago

Darkness was NOT identical on the ps3. The 360 was the superior version. This has been already discussed. Haze and COD4 haven't been released yet. Oblivion was an year old and the graphical improvements were minor.

EA is not a "lazy" developer! Stop with the excuses and the whining!!!

tehcellownu6116d ago

EA is crap..i wont be supporting them anymore...lazy as$ developers

Figboy6116d ago

i haven't ignored you yet, Power of Green?

i better fix that...

*THERE we go.

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caffman6116d ago

who thinks that after the 2 graphics updates for Oblivion on the 360, it looks better than the PS3 version. But thats just me.
This is just pure flame bait

P4KY B6116d ago

They have shareholders and 360 games make more money for them.
Who can blame them.

JsonHenry6115d ago

The problem is not that they are developing the games faster for MS, it is that Sony's machine takes more work to get the job done!

gaffyh6115d ago

@FirstKnighT - did you see the same comparsion video as me? The darkness is one of the few games that looked better on PS3, the 360 version had a green tint.

I wonder whether Peter Moore going over to EA Sports is having a negative effect on PS3 versions of EA games?

DeadIIIRed6115d ago

They deserve to lose their NFL license after the crap they pulled with 08. I'm not a second class gamer just because I have a PS3 and nobody else should be either.

http://www.petitiononline.c...

i Shank u6115d ago (Edited 6115d ago )

damn, the amount of disagrees you all gave POG is retarded. Starbreeze is another dev.(maker of darkness), so is Ubisoft (splinter cell: DA and R6), the devs. of F.E.A.R., etc. and you guys also ignore the fact that EA made fight nights 3 look better on PS3, so they can, in fact, optimize a game for PS3. so what POG said was true, you all seem to disagree with him just because you dont like his past posts. buncha' babies, and im sure none of the above will respond because you know this is all true

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MK_Red6116d ago

So this explains it. EA is not lazy. Thgey just focus more on the 360 versions. Could this be the Peter Moore effect?

killercam196116d ago

i dont know if ur jking or not but the answer would be that peter moore is on incharge of the sports

Lifendz6116d ago

what exactly does "on in charge" mean? This has to be some reflection of Moore being a top dog over at EA. I learned my lesson with this years Madden.

MK_Red6116d ago

I was j/k since Moore is a pro and something like this (Focus on 360) goes to EA's higher ranks and money owners. Also, games like Madden and NBA have been in works long before Moore came and so "360 over PS3" has been EA's moto for some time.

aaquib26116d ago

They have to spend millions developing on PS3 because its new, so instead they stick with the 360, so:

1) Development is cheaper, and easier than PS3. PS3 is new, and they're too lazy and cheap to experiment with it, because it takes too long, and costs too much.

2) It'll sell 1/3 of what 360 sells, because of the PS3's base. So spend more money and time for a game to a smaller audience? NCAA sold about 75,000 on PS3 and over 300,000 on 360 last time I check on VGcharts.

I can't say I blame them. I'd probably do the same thing, I mean it IS business!

aaquib26116d ago (Edited 6116d ago )

Double post

BADBOYEK46116d ago

this is not a Peter Moore effect,Madden is an American Football Game the XBOX360 sold 6.5 million consoles in America.The PS3 sold 1.4 million consoles in America, so why would EA waist millions on 1.4 million consoles.

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Blitzed6116d ago (Edited 6116d ago )

'If it makes financial sense, its in the game'

Maldread6115d ago

Haha, so funny and so true. Nice one.

Lakuspakus6116d ago

Xbox 360 is easier to develop for... ok, so we got that one covered.

Easier developing = Shorter developing time
Shorter developing time = Less Money spent and earlier release.
Less money spent and earlier release = more money.
More money = Better PS3 version.

Anyone agree to my way of thinking?

Lakuspakus6116d ago

Dont know what there is to disagree, but someone obviously does, and they dont even say why.
my guess is PS3 fanboys.

beans6116d ago

I have know Idea why anybody would disagree with your comment either! Maybe the fact that PS3 or 360 were both in the same post! Heck you can even post good news and still get a disagree lol!

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Daishi6115d ago

The problem is they have fewer people working on it and at the same time it has to be released on the same day. Would you be upset if the 360 and all other versions came out a month earlier than the PS3 version? It's a choice of which you would prefer. Yes they are making baseless excuses when most developers say they are nearly identical (Monilith for ex.), but the problem still remains manpower. The only thing you can do to get EA to listen is to buy two, three, or even four PS3's and get the instal base up(jk). What can you do? Sign the petition that is going around.

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TheMART6116d ago

@ Power of Green

Dude it doesn't matter. Actually this is a very 360 positive article.

PS3 fanboys think this makes the PS3 looks better. Look its EA's fault the games are running on 30fps and the 360 has it locked on 60fps.

Who cares? The point is: last gen the PS2 had the advantage of the largest installed base. Thus getting more attention, more exclusives, more games. This gen it's the 360. So, even if it is EA making the 360 version better and the PS3 version worse, or its the PS3 hardware that can't cope with a descent framerate... The 360 will get the better version of multiplatform games!

Which will sell 360 units, the installed base gets bigger, more games, more best versions, more exclusives. The positive spiral. Where the PS3 can get the negative spiral: over and over the worse versions of multiplatform games, people want the best versions so don't buy the PS3 anymore, the smallest installed base, no/less 3rd party exclusives and so on

Xbox 360 Will6116d ago

I pray that you would get rid of you ignorant personality quickly. Ignorance is the worst kind of personality to have. I feel sorry for you when the PS3 catches up and beats the 360 because you won't be able to post negative PS3 comments hence your purpose in life will be over.

Lifendz6116d ago

the 360 version of Madden has always been 60 fps. The PS3 hardware can't cope or the devs at EA aren't putting forth the effort? You see those are two very different things. Is it that the PS3 can't "cope" with a game being 60 fps or is it that EA is focusing on 360 more because of the installed base?

GaMr-6116d ago

Wait... soooo let me get this right Mr. Postitive spiral and better ports etc... Does that explain why something so simple as 100 bucks off PS3 still making it quite a bit more expensive than Xbox360, still allowed it to man handle the 360 sales for the past few weeks? Don't you get it. The thing(360) just doesn't sell. Its "Larger install base" as you call it. Is simply by default. Its called launching 1 year early. Let me stack them up for you.

Xbox360= Faulty hardware,great games,Killer bargain, haunting hardware issue...sells by defualt.

PS3= Great Hardware, average to mediocre games, High price point, lack of games to boot.... sells regardless.

Wii= What can i say....this thing just fuccin sells...

So in all actuality... if the 360's positive spiral was all that it should be where the wii is. If Sony wanted to be just try something for craps & giggles not saying this is logical or would ever happen...but let them drop the price of the PS3 (60GB or 20GB) to the price of the xbox premium and watch how PS3 sales would embarrass 360 sales and even rival Wii sales.

And alot of Game Studios/Dev's know that the 360's performance is no where near a level to dismiss the PS3. That is why you still see big PS3 exclusives and you still see Dev's sticking there neck out to defend Sony's Machine.

sjappie6116d ago

They sold 1500 consoles a week more than 360 last month in Europe. What a manhandling!

AIZEN SOZUKE6116d ago

what is the source of your bubbles son, are you cheating, someone is working with you giving you bubbles to support 180 is that it?

by AIZEN SAMA

fenderputty6116d ago

was based on a logical fallacy. Snowball anyone?

You might as well be telling me that allowing gay marriage will lead to the lessening of social morality, that soon polygamy will follow and, that not soon after that .... HUMANS AND ANIMALS!

It's pretty amazing how you ignore the chance of any other outside force affecting your little spiral. IE, more price drops, games like Killzone, other first party titles, an already installed fanbase of the PS2 waiting to come over (like a ton of my friends), games like FFXIII and metal gear, the fall of HD-DVD (yes that would help bolster PS3 sales), the further media bashing of the reliability of the 360, and the possibility of more developers "getting it". I'm not saying all these are going to happen but, each one of these things could affect your little snowballing argument.

hfaze6116d ago

"Who cares? The point is: last gen the PS2 had the advantage of the largest installed base. Thus getting more attention, more exclusives, more games. This gen it's the 360."

Not necessarily... By your logic, the Wii will be getting the most attention this generation(largest install base - STILL selling out consistently almost a year after launch, and BY FAR cheapest development costs).

It's a known fact that developers will concentrate on the system that has the largest install base. The 360 has done as well as it has due to being out a year earlier than the competition, and absolutely blowing away the other systems out at its launch (PS2, GameCube). Yet, Microsoft has had to adjust their sales estimates already... Sales have tapered off greatly after they hit the 10 million mark...

It will be interesting to see how things pan out this Christmas season... All of the systems have some pretty big titles coming out.

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Price Reductions Available Now on the Digital Xbox 360 Store - Closing July 29, 2024

Xbox 360 launched 18 years ago and was a generation-defining console that invited many people to jump into gaming for the first time and connect with friends around the world. We’re thrilled people continue playing their favorite Xbox 360 games on Xbox 360, or on newer consoles via Backward Compatibility for supported titles.

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Einhander197215h ago

"we believe in game preservation"

Remember the media reaction when PlayStation wanted to shut down the PS3 store (but then kept it open)... where is that reaction here?

CrimsonWing6914h ago

What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it.

You’re getting a chance to buy what you want before they close it. Moving forward digital stores should work like Steam. It’s just in this beginning they made it platform specific and closed off. A hindsight in their part and it sucks, but what is the percentage of people buying anything off these stores and what is the cost to keep the servers up?

I get it and yes making strives so this isn’t the case every gen we go into is absolutely a must. I mean PSN on PS3 is so convoluted to buy anything since you can’t use a credit card. Vita store is gone. It’s going to go away eventually.

Einhander197214h ago

"What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it."

My point is when PlayStation did this every website under the sun was writing articles talking about how "anti-consumer" it was yet I haven't seen anything like that happening when it's xbox doing it, in fact mostly what I see is praise from media when xbox makes obviously false claims about game preservation while they close down their store and xblig and push for digital only consoles streaming and subscriptions.

What I am asking is for everyone to be criticized or praised equally.

I mean look at the way the PS5 Slim's detachable disk drive was reported, it was super critical. Even though in reality they made it easier for people who initially buy a digital only console to move to physical, it was actually a step away from digital only. But did it get reported like that at all... no.

And you can still buy stuff on PlayStation you just need to add money to your account on the website or a PS4/5.

Tacoboto14h ago

That reaction isn't here because you can still play Xbox 360 discs of supported BC titles on Series and Xbox One, and you can still buy BC titles on the current Xbox Store.

It still sucks losing access to non-BC titles but don't act like it's the same situation. Let me know when PS5 actually supports my PS3 library.

Einhander197213h ago(Edited 13h ago)

How are you going to play those discs on your Series S (which 75% of xbox owners have) or your adorably all digital Series X?

And keep in mind that BC on xbox is an extremely limited selection of games, it's less than 25% of retail releases, and way less than the entire catalogue.

It's not a solution for the future, this isn't how "game preservation" looks, it's the fake PR that makes it that much worse.

Tacoboto13h ago

I'm not getting an all digital Series X so bark up someone else's tree, creep. I have my Series X for that disc support and functioning old hardware I still buy discs for (Bought Sudeki, Super Paper Mario, and 3D Dot Game Heroes a few months back - one for each old platform).

Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about.

Einhander197212h ago

"Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about."

I understand that, I'm making commentary on the fact that xbox is moving to digital only (and that the vast majority of current gen xbox owners do not have a disc based option) and not towards preservation as they claim.

And obviously people can play games on the original hardware for as long as that lasts, I have hundreds of games from "retro" consoles, I own nearly 200 PS3 discs alone.

Is there some reason, you feel the need to make personal insults in every comment, I reply to what you say without insulting you. But you know whatever, it says more about you than me...

And for the record "you" was being used colloquially I wasn't speaking you directly.

shinoff218310h ago

It won't as far as emulation. The os3 was built different.

I am in agreement though. I wish Sony would sell like an ultimate console. Have it where you have to order off their site and make it have real bc. Like the og ps3 had ps2 inside so to say.

Tacoboto9h ago

@Ein You're a creep because of your obsessive comment history making everything revolve around Sony or how awful Xbox is to a point that you're now just throwing irrelevant things in any way you can.

And don't try to make "you" colloquially now just because you're wrong about me and your feelings got hurt.

Einhander19726h ago

Whatever, keep insulting me, if you think that is going to make me change my opinions or what I say you couldn't be more far from the truth.

How you choose to treat other people only reflects poorly on you. (and this time it's not colloquially)

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darthv7213h ago

The PS3 situation may have something to do with no forward way to play those games on newer hardware. Not to mention the PS3 store has been around far less than the 360 store. 360 store closing was expected and they did a pretty good job making many of its digital games forward compatible with XBO and subsequently the Series as well. Ones they could not come to an agreement with are going to be left behind, but here is your chance for last minute deals for you to continue playing on your 360.

Just because the 360 store closes doesnt make all of those games you have (digital/physical) stop working on real 360 hardware. If people have physical 360 games, chances are they also have the means to play them. Just like People with PS3 games having a PS3. It would be nice if all older games worked on newer hardware... but that is not for us to decide, that is for MS, Sony and Nintendo.

Asplundh12h ago

Difference being the 360 games will still be sold on series consoles, while the PS5 only preserved a selection of Ps3 games for premium subs. If the Xbox 360 store closes the games will still be available, if the Ps3 store closes then those games are gone.

How does this contradict what they said about game preservation?

Einhander197212h ago

As far as what I have read that is not accurate, except for a small selection of games that are available through BC.

And even when the PS3 and Vita stores were going to be shut down they still were still going to be available to download if you purchased them already.

rlow15h ago

So you’re asking for equal treatment? That’s not how the world works or don’t you know? Which I can can’t believe you’re that naive. Xbox gets attacked on this site all the time. You have to ask why that was a big deal amongst the PS3 fan base? Because it wasn’t Xbox fans that were throwing up a huge stink. It’s was PlayStation fans and look at the results, Sony gave in and kept it open. You should celebrate it, instead of worrying about who takes it on the chin more.

The one thing I’ve Learned, is these companies don’t need people to defend them. They have all done things worth criticizing, but it will never be equal.

darthv725h ago

While the 360 store is closing and you will not be able to make any new purchases from a 360..... you can still download content you have previously purchased prior to the closure. The same can also be said about access to 360 games available on the XBO/Series. You will be able to make new purchases of titles that are available on the current store as well as download previously purchased content that is also compatible with the XBO/Series.

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1Victor15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

RIP Xbox 360 digital store and all its games.
It really grinds my gears that they are waiting till 10 days before closing to give the best discounts and the list as of now is 100 or less titles from the massive 360 library

Phoenix7614h ago(Edited 14h ago)

I should have enough points by the weekend to get £25 credit off MS, (hardly ever spend money on xb1), might look at a few of these.

DivineHand12514h ago

The Xbox 360 store was one of the only advantages the Xbox Series consoles had over the PS5. When I got my series X, I spent more playing Xbox 360 games vs current-gen Xbox games since that was the golden era for Xbox and several titles had enhancements such as 4k resolution and fps boost.

Closing this store will now only benefit the competition.

VersusDMC14h ago

The xbox360 store is closing on the xbox 360.

Xbox 360 games are unaffected on the xbox one and series consoles.

Einhander197213h ago

"Xbox will stop supporting the ability to purchase new games, DLC, and other entertainment content from the Xbox 360 Store on the console ->and the Xbox 360 Marketplace (marketplace.xbox.com).<-&q uot;

You will not be able to purchase any 360 games. You will only be able to play xbox discs if you have a console that support discs which doesn't look great for the future of xbox, if it has one.

VersusDMC13h ago

@Ein

Why are you repeating what i said?

You will not be able to buy digital 360 games to play on your 360.

You will still be able to buy 360 games on Xbone and Series consoles. Go to marketplace.xbox.com, that's the old browser store and not the new one.

Knightofelemia10h ago

Won't be long before Sony pulls the plug on the PS3.

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7 Deserving Games That Never Got Backward Compatibility

Backward compatibility works for many games on newer consoles, but titles such as The Simpsons: Hit and Run have been left out.

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From base building to swinging willies, here are the best survival games around, which include a couple of less than obvious picks.

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Vader823d ago

No 7 days to die is criminal